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00:00 Hey, you know how all the McDonald's and Burger Kings and Pizza Hut's all look the same now and everything is just modified so it never is identifying as what it used to be. That might be this guy's fault. It's definitely this guy's fault. He made everything just do similar. How do you say his name? Oh, like a busier like a bus like this guy's architect who basically you know, design some stuff that made it to where we ended up in this very 00:28 I don't know. We just recorded. I couldn't explain it to you at all. He designed some stuff that made it so that we could mass that were sad stuff so that everything essentially when you look at like the buildings from like the you know Chernobyl or soviet union or you know that kind of like just gray brick buildings and stuff that makes you go. There's no personality in this building. This is the architect that kind of pioneered that style. It's his personality in that building. 00:56 yeah, so we learn all about Charles. Whatever is he like a bestia a cobercie is what he goes by. I call him Charles because building sucked today's April twenty ninth. Hey, this weekend I am in Lincoln, Illinois. If you know where that is, please tell me so I can figure out how to get there, but it's a show and we're doing it. So you should go to that 01:21 and then and then next month, not next month, next month, April, but the month after no is table. next month is May next month. June I am on the church comedy tour. Would love to see you there. Go to my website, jaron Myers dot com slash shows. Please come to these shows. 01:40 Hey man. What's up? Have you ever heard of Le Corbecier? Le Corbecier? Le Corbeier? He's just pronounced Colbert. Colbert? Like the report? Colbertier report? The Colbertier report? Stephen Colbert. Yeah, he's got the Colbert report. Yeah. No, it's Le Corbeier. Here, I'll show you a picture of him. This picture was taken last week. 02:10 Okay, he's got a long pipe. Guess where he's from France. That's a good guess. Yeah, he's definitely got the glasses. He looks like he made nukes in forty five true. That's what he looks like. Yeah, and here's the thing too. He's wearing a bow tie, but this is like bow tie era. You know, this is when it's like Orville Red and Bacher time. Yeah, this is when you could wear a bow tie and it wasn't like 02:39 You know, yeah, when you see someone on a bow tie now you go, oh yeah, kind of okay, don't you? Yeah, I think you know what I think ruin bow ties ventriloquist dummies. I think that's what really took him out of style. You know what I'm Like because you see like there's just something about bow ties where like the people who wear them, they all act the same. Yeah, it's also a young Sheldon thing too. Like it's like a yeah, it's a little, it's a little 03:09 like a bear, a cober, C, a lay cober, C, Carlson, where's both eyes that live? Yeah, yeah. His birth name is actually Charles Edward Jenner at he's a Swiss guy, but he goes by like a Bessie, because he needed it. It's cooler. It is cooler. It is cooler. And for a guy who looks like this, you can't just be known as Charles, which honestly Charles fits to yeah. 03:36 like a Bessier, it fits a little bit better right. It hits a little harder. He's known for doing stuff like this. Is he an architect? Yeah, he will become an architect one day. What? He did become an architect. Did he did he design this building? No, yes, he did. He did design this. This is why you doing weird stuff man. 04:03 okay. even think I just pulled up some random building. It was like yeah. Look at this. No, you're I just like do this. I was always an architect and you're like yeah. He did that sometimes okay, now so commercial a lake, a mercy a he was born in. You don't gotta try to be funny. You know that right. I'll do. I'll handle it. If you want to like 04:25 I'll do the tell the story. We'll get to some funny parts, but you know, try to force. I'm not trying to force anything. I'm just I'm telling Joe just like you're like you're yeah, but your jokes are no like it's like we're doing bits, but your bits are was an architect. Maybe and you're you're going listen back later and be like 04:49 got him. He was an architect the whole time. Yeah, it wasn't a maybe it was a yes. What do want me to do? You want me to do crowd work and set for living? So what's your deal? What do you do? How has been together? Her man? Wow, what's the biggest fight you guys have had? 05:09 Wow! Have you ever tried a clip for social? Have ever tried that one with the biggest? No, I'm going to that's good try. That's a good good. The fight you all ever had over some don't honestly, it'd be a pretty good clip. If you can get a cut, break guys have been having for twenty years. You know saying yeah, what's the fight you're in right now fight you and your wife have been in for a couple of years. Oh, I've been dying to tell someone about this. I'm ask me, ask me what I do. What do you do? What may do 05:39 See that's a that's a joke. you a dark? Yeah, it was the same joke. I I said was no, I said no as a joke and you said no as a joke and now because you got this yellow shirt. It's funny. Keep going with the stuff. I was going with this stuff. You interrupted me to talk about me being funny or so. They cruciate a bob eyes or whatever you say his name. 06:04 Le Corbertsier. Le Corbertsier. Le Corbertsier. All right, what's he doing? He's designing stuff. Yes, yes. So he was born in Switzerland. 06:20 I was I was going to say he's so he's Swiss. I yeah he was born in Switzerland in eighteen eighty seven and he you're eighteen eighty seven and he his family is was. Let's be honest a little pretentious. Sure his mother was a piano teacher, which here's one thing you got to know about piano teachers. Have you had? Have you had any experiences with piano teachers? Mom is one 06:46 Yeah. What was your experience like? What's your experience was like with? What do you got? What do you got to say about piano teachers? just I've probably told this story on the podcast before, but this is this is the archetype of piano teachers in my brain at Evangel. I minored in music for a semester sure and then I switched. I switched to psychology after this experience because it was so negative. I was like I was like this was so bad. I need to learn about what's wrong with my brain and so it's just a psychology. Sure 07:16 So I had a piano teacher, I was learning piano and there was one day where I was pretty sick and so I emailed her before the class. It's a one on one lesson was the class. It was that old lady. know who you're talking about. well, I guess she's no, sir. But yeah, and so I emailed her and I was like, I was like, hey, I'm really sick. I was like, I'm really sick. Here's the deal. I'm really sick. I was like, I will come if you want me to come, but I just want you to know. 07:46 I'm very sick today and she responded. You live in Scott Hall. You can't walk twenty steps over here. You wank punk, little close. She one on each state attitude, have a loser, Missouri state attitude, and so I gave and I'm and you got her sick. I am dying. I'm she died. 08:08 I am literally pouring. killed that lady. nose is like literally dripping, like actually dripping. That's how sick I was. And so I come in there, I'm playing the piece that I had been practicing and my nose. It was ode to joy. It was hot cross. And she's sitting there on the bench next to me while I'm doing my thing and my nose is pouring and she gets up and. 08:37 Wipe your nose for you. She just holds it in her hand. It's so gracious. No, she gets up, she walks over to her desk and I'm still playing and she doesn't say anything. She doesn't say a whole lot. Like I'm still playing. I'm like looking over my shoulder and what is she doing? She grabs a box of tissues. She slams it down on the keys. It's gong and she says to me, fix yourself. And I was like, I told you, I tried to prevent this. I tried to stop this from happening. And so then I said, actually, 09:07 I kind of want to do psychology instead. I said I kind of want to talk about this for the next ten years in counseling. Let's look at her perspective right. Let's just let's just run it out from what she saw because she has to work with college students every day. College students are pretty bad. They email like on sick and she's like shut up. Just come to the lesson. Yeah right. So she says just come to the lesson. This scrawny pasty freshman first walks it. 09:36 maybe a little scrawny, but not pasty sure when you're sick. I mean yeah, if you're sick, you're pasty. guess yeah, that's fair. You're walking in and so she gets to work. I walk in in my topic, kitty, she's driven down nose and stone. She's so mad, but she's driven like devil, Springfield traffic. She got to the school. It's like a cold day outside, you know, 10:03 she gets in there. She like warms up on the piano. She's done on a na na na na na na na na na na song plays on this and that's right. It does it this this be. know how to play this. Yeah, does it? That's great and then she responds your emotions that come to class. You come in snot covered male pattern baldness shaved and clearly shaved like you had here the day before and now you yeah. was there yesterday 10:46 like you get her you messed up, you messed up hot and then so she just goes 10:54 grabs the tissues hits the note you were supposed to 11:04 and says fix yourself. You had the opportunity to take the wise words of council and go. I should fix my and instead you said you hurt my feelings. They are trying to change me. I'm perfect as I am 11:27 and you switch to psychology and do we become friends in the second semester? I guess then or did you have to take psych? No, I had to take a yeah. There was a like a that first gen ed course that I met yeah now and then and then yeah and then I villainized piano teachers from that point forward. They're all that my mom was also that my mom would have done the same thing. So I'll be honest with you. Yes, so here's the thing about piano dude is that every kid doesn't want to learn it 11:57 Yeah, it's one of those it's one. definitely is one of those instruments where it's like like a lot of instruments you can kind of pick up and like after a little bit you can pick up and you can start to dill around and play something pretty decent, but piano it's like you're playing really dumb songs for a long time, a long time before you scales for a long, time. Yeah, but then that's the thing is that once you're good at it pretty good at it. Yeah, you can do some cool stuff. It's really cool. Yeah, but it takes a while. It takes a long time and I'm still in that long time. 12:27 because I've never fixed myself. And that's the message, you know? Fix yourself. Otherwise you end up co-hosting a dying podcast. 12:40 check out our paint job. Look how good it is. Tim did the paint job. I did the paint. Look, it's good. Isn't it? He thought it'd be fun to leave a texture. I thought it'd be fun if we didn't finish anyway, so like a bear, a lake, a bear, a so his mom was a piano teacher. Okay, very rude. We don't know that for sure, but she was a piano teacher. His father was I don't I don't even an artist, an artisan. He enameled boxes and watches. He didn't make them. He enameled them. 13:09 Okay, which yeah. So he just made boxes and watches worse. I guess I don't know or covered. You know, I don't know made him shiny yeah and then his brother was an amateur violinist, which it's interesting that the Wikipedia page has amateur violinist, but they treated his brother Albert like he was a star. He Albert yeah because you got to remember to this is eighty seven violin. 13:38 pretty hot was the electric guitar. Yeah, it was sick yeah kids out there in the streets going and all the kids with their no shoes or dancing around throwing the vipers kids of the violin sitting outside a target playing along to a track. You know, if you ever see one of these people outside a target, Ross, that's where they hang out. Have them ask them to play something without the track. Yeah, just ask them big one. I'm I something without that. Yeah, they're in your what 14:07 they're at my Sam's Club. Yeah, yeah, you know what they do. You know what they do at my Sam's Club. I'm not even exaggerating. They play by they're in the planters and they play by a bush and I'm not even kidding. They put the speaker in the bush so you can't see the speaker, but like I saw them in the winter, but like the bush isn't bushy right now, but they have the speakers in the bush, but they have the backing tracks with it though. They're not just it's not just violent. I mean, I think they're trying to make it look like it's all them yeah. 14:34 because they're hiding this. I'm saying they're playing with a like it, not like they're playing with music in the background. Usually yeah yeah yeah they're like they're like playing a popular song with the karaoke version yeah right yeah yeah yeah yeah but they're not actually playing either yeah because it's yeah because it's a scam it's called lip sinking yes but if it's a violin it's called string sinking yes there you go 15:01 Yeah, it's a it's an art. You know, it still takes skill. You still have to be talented to do it right. Remember? Never mind. So like a bestie, he is kind of flowing through life trying to figure out what he's interested in. Brothers got his violin stuff figured out. Yeah, his brother, his brother is so cool, just so and his brother, his brother got into like what's the word for this? His brother got into 15:31 Elvis impersonations. Okay, his brother was cool as the boy, the brother was really, really cool and figure out what to do this life yeah and so at the age of fifteen he goes to like an art school okay and he starts learning a little bit about the arts and while he's there he learns about architecture and he thinks it's so dumb he and like genuinely building buildings yeah yeah he does not get like the art side of 16:00 Like they're acting like it's art, but he's like, this is not art. This is, this is building stuff. And he's like, and he doesn't get the art side of it, but he tries, he tries to now it is now architecture is dumb. Why do say that? Some of it's cool. Why, why do you say that? Cause I mean, look at what we're building now. America was supposed to be beautiful. Yeah. And instead we have flash cube. 16:30 You know I'm saying I mean yeah, that's yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I will I yeah, I don't know. I have mixed feelings about that. What like a flash cube? Okay, like I think that they have their place sure. I don't think everything should look like that obviously yeah, but I'm saying like the way that Wendy's and McDonald's are built now. Yeah, they look terrible. So he he then had an architecture teacher 16:58 okay or no. He had an art teacher and his art teacher. He described him later in life as a man from the woods yeah, and so he taught him about like that one youth volunteer. You've got you know talking about every youth group has one volunteer who's just like a man from the a couple of years. He's just like that guy was like he's got a crazy testimony yeah yeah crazy test for real and so he like that when I was growing up and right my church she always had a story. Did she be like yeah? That was when I was 17:28 I was living on a ship. We were saving whales and you're like what they were true stories. Yeah, are you serious? Yeah, are you sure? Yeah, I don't know verified. She had like a because it was about her jacket. It was her jacket for that team that was saving whales. Yeah, I mean I had stuff I lied about too. Okay, I talked about that on this podcast by my dog tags, my stolen 17:57 that stuff I lied about to you know, like my dog tags what I don't think so. I should I had a you have an office. It's It's It's fine. It's probably better at this point to tell the whole story that deleted at my stolen. Okay, now I would. I went to one of those like wild at heart things yeah and they gave it wasn't wild at heart. It was at evangel. It was the cave time 18:27 Yeah, it was a guy that kids dad, yeah, freaking Voss. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, they gave out dog tags and the dog tags. They had like prayers on them and so it's like you're supposed to take your dog tags and say the prayers every day and so I was in that world and so I wore them after going to that and I wore them around for a while and I was at at North Point and I volunteered at North Point. I I served with students 18:56 and a guy saw my dog tags that I didn't know on a Sunday morning and was like hey, you surf. I was like yeah and he was like oh and he said which branch and I was like as a weird way to ask that and I was like students and then he just looked at me like with these weird squinty eyes and then just walked away just like that. It's just like I see what happened. Okay, here's the thing about like the mids conference stuff like that. 19:25 I as a as a Christian man, I don't need to tame the lion within you know. I don't need to save my wife, the damsel or protect my kids, the legacy. You know, I don't I you know what I need. I more curriculum on how to be a normal freaking person. That's right. I see some curriculum on how to how to actually like we're not all alcoholics. 19:47 honestly dude yeah honestly yeah so much of the men's conference stuff is like team the line within and freaking you have these animalistic desires and you're like yeah yeah you guys are freaking weird dude. I don't need to play cornhole with raw steaks to feel like 20:10 you put these gloves on secret, throw this staker a little black was like that's so weird like for you. Oh yeah, we're gonna we're gonna. We have monster trucks, dude, shut up yeah yeah. You know you don't have a healthy relationship with your spouse. You don't have respect for your wife. Come on me 20:29 Yep, Tim gets really uncomfortable at this. These men's events man's we only Dante Hall to show up and sign pictures from when he was in the chiefs in two thousand three. I need a pastor to look at me and go. You know what? It's okay like yeah, the world's crazy and like it's not your job as the man to figure everything out before everything bad happens. Your job as a man is to show up and be present for your family. 20:52 and learning how to do that and have healthy relationships and vulnerable connections with people around you. It's okay to be vulnerable and it's okay to have feelings and it's also important to cook a really good steak blow stuff up also in so strong rush your enemies and force them to comply yeah comply comply comply comply. So he said he that's what every morning I look at my demons in the mirror and I say comply comply 21:24 in the name of Jesus comply. Okay, so yes, my dog tags, I'm glad I serve. I do serve. 21:40 Which branch the Lord's army? 21:50 In the early days of this show, we did like affiliate ads where we were like a sign up for grammarly and use code till and and we got like fifteen cents and now we just do patreon. It's a much better way. It's better for us as creators. It's better for you as listeners and it's a much more fun way for us to interact. We do monthly hangouts like on zoom. We just hang out and play games online and and get to know each other. It's a really fun time so 22:17 but still use our code till in at grammerly dot com because I think it's still I might get like a couple cents from that, but join us on patreon because we're having a great time. Yeah, if you don't, we're going to have to start doing mobile game ads. 22:34 So he's doing the art stuff. He's painting paintings and he said that he lived on the mountaintop. He was so accustomed to standing on top of the mountains and painting the scenes. Yeah, you're talking about his mentor who or his one of the teachers. Yeah, so you're talking about yeah, he had a teacher who was the mayor of the woods and they would stand on mountaintops and they would paint paint pictures and for some reason I don't gonna be honest. I don't know how this happened, but here's a here's a direct quote from him looking back to his childhood and he says I had a horror 23:03 for architecture and architects architects. He says I was sixteen or a horror. He was terrified of him and he said I was sixteen. Some of you were afraid of clowns 23:16 Oh no, it's just a haunted house where someone pops out and they go. What if the stairs came down on the south side of the building? We should put a trust here. What if we knocked out this wall and created an open floor plan and then he continues his torture is him strapped to a chair being forced to watch HGTV eyes, tape, as torture for most of us. 23:45 so no torture for me is having to watch andy Elliott videos. You know what actually you know what the is not that bad. You know who's worse is the people like that are below him in this pyramid scam that because it's a pyramid scheme yeah, but people below him who are just like oh yeah, I'm gonna sell. I'm selling people on coaching with the andy Elliott yeah and they all use those little red and white captions on their videos yeah and then there's like you're a punk. If you don't do this, you gotta wake up at two thirty in the morning. You know 24:13 That would be torture for me if I have to watch that stuff. Did you see that reel this week that went viral of him, of him saying, if you don't make at least $100,000 a week, what's wrong with you? I think it's a month, $100,000 a month. If you're not making at least $100,000 a month, what's wrong with you? And then it cuts, hard cuts to him flying coach. And he's like sitting down, coach, like taking his seat. And it's like, 24:38 What's wrong with you? What's wrong with it? So the quote I had a horror of architecture and architects continues. I was sixteen and so scared of them. I accepted the verdict and I obeyed and I moved into architecture. I don't know why yeah, I afraid of them and then all of a sudden he's like I have to be one well. I'll tell you what happened. He went to an architecture like camp right yeah. Thursday night they were like hey, if you feel called to become an architect, come forward. 25:08 and actually we're not going to leave until someone does yeah and actually you know last night we all spoke in tongue and groove today. We're going to get our call tonight. We're going to speak in brick and mortar and someone's got to come forward. So it's going to have to come for. Are you going to build yeah yeah this next generation? Are you going to sit idly by a bill on the mount taker 25:37 so he at the age of sixteen he says I'm going to go on tour and so he goes on tour any track. Yeah, he goes on tour, travels around Europe and I'm not exaggerating. He goes on tour to look at all the buildings everywhere and he says this is how this is how on tour. Why did you call it tour? That's what he calls it. 26:00 yeah, but it's the same thing where like they're like all right. I'm going to go to holiday and he goes on holiday, which means he made this whole thing a holiday. You're like they called it. They called it the voyage of initiation, 1907 to 1911. This is a four year voyage of initiation. How did he was not traditionally in America? We just call that community college. We just call it your weird backpacking face. We just call it double a baseball. 26:29 So he goes and he travels this whole tour around. What is this southeastern? just call it James River Leadership and I'm not exaggerating what I say. He did not have a mentor. He did not have a teacher. He had no one with him. He went around by himself and just looked at all the buildings he saw and he's like that's one of them and then he would step to the next one kind of like you would at an art studio and an art gallery. He would just look at it 26:53 But that's what I'm saying is that the art he's looking at he's looking at good architecture. I mean it's true yeah he's looking at great. What's the style that America was supposed to be art deco kind of thing like our deco was like the forties and like they're really like yeah. What were we supposed to be before that? No, no, no, you know like all those drawings of a tartarian stop. No, I'm saying like when when trains were supposed to look like you know like the 27:18 one from wicked, you know, like that like and that whatever what those was our style called. You know I'm saying yeah, it was like American Gothic or something like that, like something futurism retrofuturism is what we call it now. I don't know what they call it. Yeah, but like there was like a term that it was like this is what America was supposed to be. Yeah. And then we realized how expensive it was to build those buildings and they would last too long. So then we just started building crappier buildings that are easier to knock down when the vacancies come point in. Yeah, yeah, that's accurate. Yeah. 27:48 I don't know what that style was, that, yeah. So he's going through and he's seeing all these historic buildings. This is 1911, right? So these are all these historic, like beautiful ornate design ornate architecture from all throughout history, all these different eras of architecture, different styles of architecture, especially this region he's traveling through. Like, sure, this is like 28:11 Italy, like southern Europe and then even like Greece and then where is this peeking into Turkey like he's seeing a whole lot of this really yeah. I know this. What are you talking about? I just listed like half the countries in the map that he went through. What are you talking about? And so you see in all these very significant locations throughout history was very significant architecture. Then it comes home that's back to us. What's that was the Great Lakes? 28:40 how freaking funny, how funny would it's like of the o's and I'm like yeah, he's going to Italy, all these places and it's funny now he comes home and he says all right now I can finally earn the respect of my piano teacher mother and so he says I'm going to build her a home. This is a big Freudian thing, so yeah, look at the guy, look at the guy, look at the guy, he built to that house, so he built her a house, he built her a house and this that wasn't it. This is a house 29:10 He builds her this house. Yeah, beautiful. mean it's nice. It looks fine. It's nice. This is the first thing he does. He builds his house. It's nice. Here's the thing you need to remember though about this. This is 1912 and so this is a giant house in 1912. He builds his house, his mom sees it and she is immediately like this is a monstrosity. What she's like this is way too big. 29:39 and she's like we don't need this much space. This is absurd. This is too much and so he's a little sad. She's knock it down, tear it down, fix yourself. Where did he get the money to do that? I don't know. It's 1912. Everyone had money. You know, here's the thing. Here's the thing. How did he have the money to do this like his family? His dad puts enamel on watches. His mom teaches piano. Where did he get in money to do any of this? It was cheap to be alive back then. You know, you could do whatever you want. Okay, sure. 30:08 and so he builds her this house and I mean I guess I'm going to contradict myself here real quick because they move in. They live there for a few years but they can't afford it and they end up having to move out and so this actually does financially ruin his family. The decision to live in this if Tim would just read the next sentence in his notes before he chastises me he was yeah. You idiot is just fine to live in a so we have to money to any of it. Okay, so turns out they have any of the money 30:37 It's literally the next thing in your notes. Well, okay, first of they did have money. Go ahead. So anyways, he builds this house, his family's not super grateful. Right. And so then he was like, you know what? Fine. I look around this town and it's too small for me. This little Swiss town, these people are not ready for what I have for them. I see the homes that they're building and they're lame. They don't have an architect. They don't have room for an architect like myself. 31:06 He's built one building and he's like, he's like visionary, such as myself. Yeah. He's like, I need to be where the architects are. And so he moves to Paris. I want to be where the architects are. I want to be where they're putting things together. 31:28 I wanna be with that. What do you call it? 31:33 Drafting tables. So I dated a girl who was an architecture major. Architect major. Yeah. Whatever. Architecture major. And their desk, we to go get a door from Home Depot. This is not a joke. Don't laugh at this. We didn't get a door from Home Depot. The first thing they have you do in architecture school is build your desk. This is so serious. Yeah. Yeah. They make you build your desk out of a door. 32:03 And that's what you work on. And then you just spend 14 hours a day with the same five people in that room. Architecture is really interesting because it does feel like when you're studying, they make you build a lot of stuff, but like small. But like small? Sure. But like when you actually do the job, like you're just drawing pictures. Yeah. Like why did I do all that building if I'm just going to draw? I mean, I they do bottles and stuff too. to draw this. What is this, a facility for hands? Yeah. 32:32 So he moves to Paris and he's like, he's going to be around all the architects. I'm going to, I need to be where the professionals are, but like he's, he's built one building, so he doesn't get any opportunities doing any building, but he does somehow get a job at like a school. And so he does like theoretical stuff. And so he's thinking about architecture a lot and he's like writing papers about architecture and how to do different designs, but he's not actually getting to actually build anything, do any actual designs. 33:02 And around the same time, something very interesting happens. And that interesting thing, there's an interesting innovation. There's actually a lot of things happen. This is like the tail end of the industrial revolution. The world's vastly changing very quickly. And one of the big things is reinforced concrete. And so with reinforced concrete, always, I shouldn't say we always had concrete. Concrete dates back to like the Roman Empire. had concrete. But reinforced concrete where they put steel rebar through. 33:29 you now can do more interesting things with concrete. You kind of shape it a little bit. You couldn't do that before. It was really just like a block and you had to or arches and stuff like that. Right now you kind of had opportunity to do some more interesting things and so he started kind of theorizing what can we do with concrete now that we couldn't do before sure and so he puts out like an article for a theoretical home called the Domino House and the Domino House puts him on the map. 33:56 and he becomes like a famous architect yeah, but remember he still only built that one house like he hasn't he's just a theoretical architect, a retic or he hasn't actually built these things. So this is the Domino House. This is the house that all the architects in the world were like holy crap. They saw this at that third word for word what they said. Ready? You ready to see this the Domino House? Oh my gosh, this guy invented 34:26 Parking garages. 34:30 it's a listening. If you're listening, it looks like a parking garage. It's a slap and then six little twigs holding up another slot and then six little twigs holding up another slot and there's no walls. There's no windows. There's no doors. There's a couple staircases and that's it is just a big old opening with some ceilings and floors, okay, the pillars and they were like oh my good golly. He took buildings and he took the building away 35:00 and it here's what it looks like with the breaks underneath it. It looks like it had tires at one point, but then they got robbed like it's just sitting on cinder blocks. It's so okay. The reason why this was revolutionary right is up until this point, like the support beams weren't a thing. Your walls were all load bearing and so to build a structure, you had to strategically plan your rooms and your walls to hold up the structure, but now all of a sudden, because they now can do support beams, 35:29 you can hold up multiple floors with just six pillars and you don't need any walls at all. And so this blew everyone's mind that they're like, holy crap, we don't need walls anymore. Obviously a little facetious because like we still would probably put walls on this building. Yeah, but this is like the skeleton. Yeah, but the idea is we don't need them anymore. Yeah. And so he paves the way for prefab homes and he starts becoming this evangelist of, we don't need 35:56 or he becomes his evangelist of that. You could basically build a skeleton and then let people make their own floor plan inside kind of, but more than that he is looking to like forward in the model T. He's a huge fan of Ford and he's like the they can build guy invented mobile home. They know they can build cars really. I'm an revolutionary architect who invented trailer parks. He's like he's like the modern world is 36:23 is industrialized. Everyone can build with such efficiency and they can turn out all these vehicles so quickly at Ford, but homes, you still have your local brick maker, your local artisan who's who does what his family taught him. need it to be industrialized so we can capitalize on it and make the most money possible. Yeah. His point is like this needs to be more efficient and he's like, he's like, we have to make architecture. 36:47 efficient. We have to make construction more efficient. That's what I'm talking about. When I say like the McDonald's and the like even the Panda Express, we're go to Panda after this right. Yeah, it's designed. The building is designed so that went like because you can always tell when you drive past an old backyard burgers, yeah, or you drive past an old Burger King with the play place. Yeah, all that or the pizza huts, the most famous one right like you can see like oh that used to be a pizza hut. Yeah, the way there's the building was shaped. It's like literally their logo is the roof. Yep, yep, but now 37:16 They build things so that when they leave that building it had early any fast food restaurant can move in and that which should kill your soul that which that's one of those things was like oh that's smart business. I see why they do that but it should in your body trigger some kind of oh no one plans on investing in my community long term. Yeah one plans on nothing matters and nothing is real and nothing's going to be here longer than me. Yeah that should hurt you. Yeah. 37:44 Well, that's the thing we know. When you walk into this building, you look out from the front and you're like, oh, this used to be a Best Buy. Because like that, and that's what I think everyone's trying to get away from is because inevitably in the world we live in, Best Buy is not going to be here forever. Circuit City is going to go under. so will Best Buy. And so building to suit that specific brand is not a good model. 38:14 I agree with your point. I agree with your point sure, but what I'm saying culture we live in, it doesn't make sense right because not as further you're on second eight right now we're going to second twelve of thought. Okay, is that it is easier, more profitable and makes more sense to just give way to a national brand. 38:34 than it does to have a local business. So a national brand is going to expand and put as many stores as they can do all this stuff. They have no interest in being a part of your community or supporting the people who live there. They view the worker as someone who can just run the machine and the system for them. And they put all the local businesses out of business. No one plans on being in your community long term because everyone plans on either starting the new national brand. 39:02 everyone wants to be a national brand. Yep, no one wants to be a mom and pop, and that and should the fall out of that you the fall out of that to continue that that should hurt the father. You're not, you're not the fall out of that to continue that is is downtown San Francisco with target and Walgreens and all those companies that moved out and the messaging you receive is there was too much shoplifting is too dangerous, too much homelessness, but what is the reality 39:30 is those brands have pushed real estate prices up so much that all the local businesses are not feasible there. All the local businesses live there. Yeah. And so now those businesses, create a problem, but then they go, Oh, we don't want to live with that problem. They leave. And then that problem is just there. And then all those people are stuck with that problem. People who made investment real estate, they bought all these buildings and they built these apartment complexes. They're unwilling to drop their like the rates dude at the downtown Kansas city things. It is insane. It is in 40:00 saying that a two bedroom in one of the light buildings downtown, one light, two light, three light, any of them two bedroom is more expensive than my apartment in Los Angeles. That's insane. That's stupid. It's dumb. so it's a cobusier cobusier. 40:22 He put out this. We got into another conversation about all the things that are wrong with the world. Trying to make it a musical. Oh, I really down all the things that are wrong. We did it again, so he puts out this thing, the domino house and then all these like architecture, fruit, the people who are like really big in architectures like this happen. Here's like to put a button on it. When inventions like this happen, 40:50 this can go one of two ways. This is either revolutionary idea that could be like oh, we can build on this or what ends up happening is oh, we can make things way more efficient. We can make way more money for doing less work and less like we can just because you can buy. It's what my dad complains about all the time is that you can buy thirty of something for cheaper per item than you can one of something. Yeah, if I'm building, if I'm doing a construction project and I only need two of those things, yeah, it is 41:19 easier for a bigger company to come in and do that project because they got it at a cheaper rate because they bought 30 of those things. Which makes sense. Like that's the whole thing. It's one of those things where it's like, yeah, that makes sense. That makes financial sense, but it also makes it so that my dad can't break into that industry that a bigger company is already doing. And it's stuff like that where it's just like, what are you going to regulate that bigger company out of doing better business? Are you going to regulate like... There's fallout to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what saying. When he makes this for the architecture kind of stuff, like this could either... 41:47 be something that we can really expand on this and we can make beautiful, wonderful, lasting things or we can make cheap garbage and I don't know where you live, but it's probably in some cheap garbage. 42:04 and you're like certainly not the house that I had built. My parents had their house built by the Amish. Their house is solid. It is insanely in. I have tried to blow that house down and it won't. It won't go. stand up, but you want to see how stupid your house is where you live. If you probably live in an apartment maybe or if you own a home that you bought, like just take a little level, put it anywhere in your house. Yeah, yeah, you're going to lose your mind. My house was built in seventy one 42:31 And that was like back when your house saw say I mostly like yeah, they don't like they used to. We just put those. We just put those panels on the wall. Oh yeah and gosh, it's insane how we've got like one side level, the whole thing's level all the way across. We get to the other wall and I'm not exaggerating when I say we are almost an inch and a half from that other wall because the other was just so crooked. It's insane. It's in anyways, I'm little fast and cheap. So 43:00 He building matters. No one cares about the community they're building. No one cares about the money they're putting into the place that you're going to live and mess your life and raise your kids and put your kids in hopefully public education. He puts the domino house out was domino house out and all these radicalize you thinking about stuff. He puts the domino house looking around my house and like this. These walls are right dude. 43:26 you know, you know, right story where someone's got like a good life and then they look at the lamp like that lambs weird. What it really was is the lamp was just cheap. They look at it like that kind of sucks. That lamb's pretty bad and it broke their whole then it turns out everything's bad. 43:42 No, so he puts out the dominoes of our podcast is everything's bad. It puts the domino house out and then a bunch of rich dudes with their pipes are reading their magazine that they subscribe to about. They're having their grandkids read them. Yeah, yeah, because they didn't learn now. No, no, they know how to read. That's how they're teaching. It's heavy. I back to an episode that we recorded yesterday architecture bug son, so it's so they're reading it. He's right and then so the grand at the Domino House. Well, the new design is the great is the is don't 44:12 Sound it out, you dumb mingo house go house. Oh, I love the sound of that Domingo house. It sounds so cultured got a new design. It's real cool. It's designed by Domingo or whatever. I don't know dude. It's a pop culture reference. 44:31 so he puts this thing out. He puts this thing out a bunch of people read it in the magazine trying to appeal to a audience. It's serious. It's the magazine, a bunch of rich people read the magazine. They call them up. They say let me get that guy on the phone. They call him up and they say hey dude told me something and so he started building a bunch of houses for rich people, but again this is a second. I mean that doesn't and they all look like this. These are the kind of homes that they all look like ikea furniture. They look like they look like 45:00 on and you don't see it from the outside. You barely see it from the outside. I should say, but they look like what you would expect the outside of the house of the neighbor at the national lampoon Christmas vacation. Yeah, this is what you would expect the outside of that. all this looks like severance to be honest. Yeah, they're very like. What does the inside look like? We got shots of what the inside because I is it beautiful. I shots of the inside of something else. I'll show you later, but not of this like this looks pretty 45:25 cool yeah they're building like it honestly not my cup of tea. I want to buy it, but I can respect people who like this. You couldn't afford this dude. I mean if I lived back then everything was so cheap. I could have art. If I live back that everything was so cheap. I could have easily done that sure and so he's building homes right. He starts building homes for people design homes, but he has a bigger dream. He says I don't want to build just homes. I want to build the White House. He wants to build Paris. 45:52 and so in his dream he wants to build Paris. So in his dream he says he says in a perfect world I could tear Paris down and I could restart because we're not an efficient city and he says I don't in a perfect world. I could destroy all of this in a perfect world. I would be able to demolish and level the entire historical city of Paris, France, 46:23 and starting from the ashes, I would place beam after beam like Johnny Apple beam just through the city. The whole thing's on a platform. Yeah, yeah, 46:40 Thanks for checking out this episode. you like it, there is some great news for you. have a mailing list in that mailing list. give updates on past episodes. So things in the news, things that happen for episodes, we've got over 200 episodes we've done and every week things are changing. New updates are coming out and we're keeping you up to date on what's happening in the happenings of tilling topics. So if you want to keep learning stuff even beyond the content of the episodes, that's a great place to do it. Also, we give updates on things that's happening in the tilling verse. 47:07 I like that. I've never said Till and Verse before, but I'm sticking with it. If you want to know what's happening in the Till and Verse, that's the best place to do it. You can go to tilland.com. There's a link in the description or you can text tilland to 66866. There's a lot of ways to sign up for the mailing list to make sure you keep up to date with everything that we've talked about and everything that's going on in the Till and Verse. But anyways, now back to this episode. 47:32 Okay, what was his vision? So his vision he wanted to I mean the efficiency was the thing and so he wanted to make a more efficient city, so a city where everything was everything was like the prefab design using the domino house like mentality where it was all built prefabricated, built more efficiently and then most importantly like 47:55 I don't know what the right word is for this kind of like what you hear like from like the people who are building the line where it's like everything that you need is close to you and so everything's like conveniently located, but there's room for everything and everybody. You know what I'm saying sure and so he starts theorizing about this and writing articles and stuff about what he wants Paris to look like and he releases these. This image, this is a model of what he thinks Paris should be like 48:25 And it's it's honestly, if you're listening, it's the projects in New York like that's what he wants it to be. It's just so less these like two or three dozen cross shaped skyscrapers that are insanely tall and then a bunch of other like weird geometrically shaped buildings around it. And this is a model he built this yeah and like a pretty lifeless grid. 48:53 but the idea is these are buildings you work and play and live in and they've got everything you need in these buildings and the idea is that every room of the building has a view every single room and oh yeah, that's the dream. That's the idea and that's why it's shaped the way it is, but realistically we know because we've been in buildings like this that the view on some of those is the other window yeah, so it's not a great view, but in theory, I guess it's a view 49:23 and these are obviously all just cement facades like there's nothing no ornamentation, nothing inspiring or interesting about this. It's very utilitarian yes and so needless to say looks bad yeah needless to say. Do you think he got halfway through this model and was like? Oh no, you know, saying like he built in he was like wait, this is this kind of so kind of suck, but I'm so far in 49:51 too deep. I mean to I've been talking to every everybody about this and talking every everybody I'm telling people about this idea. I can't like double back on it now like I'm so I'm into deep. I got to run this race. I have to win this race because I've said too much and so he he starts campaigning for this idea and he's going around. He goes to New York. He lands in New York. The reporters are so excited to see him and there's this 50:21 strange. He's like going and doing lectures and he's like writing on pieces of paper and women are fighting over the paper like he's kind like a weird architecture celebrity. Yeah, he's a weird architecture celebrity, which this is to be fair pre beetles and so people weren't didn't understand what cool was yet. They were like didn't know what it meant to be cool. The Beatles had it happen so like people hadn't seen someone do something really. Is this right now again? I mean this is the thirty's at this point and so people haven't seen someone do something really cool yet. 50:49 And so like, oh my gosh, he's got cool ideas about buildings. I need papers. He's not seen flight. 50:59 What do mean? haven't seen things that are cool. Yeah, but the planes exist yeah, but they haven't seen a rock star yet. Okay, I haven't seen a movie star yet. Movie stars just started. We started just started. They're tossing their clothes at him. They're like we love your building. Oh, your beams 51:20 Tell us again about that trust. Yeah, it's weird. So he goes to New York and he's the reporters are swarming him and they ask him, they said, what do think in New York? You're seeing New York City. What do you think of it? It's the world to New York. We've been waiting for you. Welcome to New York. he looks around, he gets off, the boat or whatever, however he got there and he looks around and he looks at it the reporters like, what do think of New York? Then he says, this place sucks. He says, your buildings are too short. 51:50 and they're like gas, so he goes to New York and yeah and he does this tour in New York. He's buildings are big enough. Your buildings look too cool and there was the tallest building in New York at the time at the time. Empire State might have been under construction at the time. Did he make? Did he make the Chrysler building then no Chrysler building was before Empire State? I thought yeah. Did he make one was Empire Empire State was probably under construction when he got there yeah okay? 52:20 So then yeah at the time, I think Chrysler would have been the tallest at that time because Chrysler well actually you know what Chrysler was because Chrysler got completed only like a year before Empire State. Yeah, as a controversy, a controversy, so he he comes to New York. He says that I you're building too short. 52:43 he goes back like we're trying. They're like like literally we're building one. Look at how big they are that you could tell me something bigger in Paris right. You got a bigger one in Paris and he's like no, but yours are too short. are too short. He said if the Paris government would let me level the city and build my city, it'd be way taller than your buildings. They're like okay, my dad beat up your dad. Paris government would just let me level everything. 53:11 And so okay, all right, city of Paris. We've decided to let this guy do it. So we need everyone to leave for a while. Leave for a little bit. This guy's got tear the city. We don't know where you should go. 53:30 they start playing closing time. You can't you can't stay here. Okay, where you go, I go home, but you can't stay here. Well, actually you definitely can't go home actually because your homes here, so we're going to destroy where else to go. I so this is as we've discussed. We've only been thinking about it for maybe four seconds, but it turns out this is the idea we're going to do and it's the it's yeah, you know, so then he finds out about fascism. 54:00 and he gets really excited about it. He's like yeah, the thing that's stopping me is the is the the bureaucratic control of Paris. No, his big thing about fascism is he says this makes a lot of sense because it under fascism. I could give a better, a better environment for the working class. That's what he's saying sure, sure, sure, sure, so I could fix it. I alone could fix it. Same thing of like you know, like the Disney idea for Epcot, yes or so. I mean honestly, Disney was a fascist. Yeah, 54:28 kind of time marked out. That's my out of context quote for this week. Disney was a fascist, so he he he becomes friends of fascists is probably something you can call friends of fascist friends of fascists in a time where it was part of our tears on page. 54:49 in a time where it probably wasn't a good thing to be friends with fascists, but it was yeah and so goes to Germany. He actually moves to Italy, who's lady yeah and he most of the fascist friend of he becomes close friends with their director of eugenics and he works for a while. He starts building a bunch of buildings, but then realizes I don't really like working for this guy. He's like. I don't know if I love fascism that much now that I'm like this close to it and so then we this kind of sucks like this guy's kind of a jerk. 55:19 and so he quits his job is here to build building yeah master race. Sorry he quits his job goes back to build his abilities. The war kicks off. The second one kicks off and then him and he's got this society of architects that are like cuffed the same cloth at all. He's like watching him. He's like oh yeah, they're bombing Paris yes, I yeah so him and his group of architect friends. He's like all right, they're going to need to rebuild. We'll do it exactly 55:47 they see this as the best opportunity of a lifetime. They're like we can rebuild the society now and the way that we want and so they go start seeking up contracts to be the rebuilders and lo and behold, the people who actually like the designs he have is has is the Soviet Union and so he ends up building a bunch of new Soviet blocks like the same the kind of things that yeah now we associate that with with Soviet Russia. Yes, yes and so he builds 56:17 a bunch of a bunch of these like housing. What's the what's the word I'm looking for like blocks? I mean, I guess eventually housing blocks yeah. Eventually it becomes housing blocks, but it starts out with this one very significant building he builds and I'm trying to find the name of this the unit day habitation unit unit, the habitation and this one specifically 56:48 This is this one, this specific ones in France actually, so also the fascists and this one is fascist at the time. Yeah, fran cited with germany. Oh and so this one actually got added to a unesco heritage site. The list. This is the building yeah exactly what you picture a giant lego yeah just a giant cement block. 57:16 with weird colors in random spots here and there. Here's the interesting thing though. Interior's not bad, like not great. But the one of the interesting things is all the hallways, every floor, these are businesses. And so these you've got businesses and then you've got your like actual apartment units. And so again, the live and work and play concept, but inside these spaces, they're not bad. He was a furniture designer to a lot of this is his furniture. Okay. 57:45 Yeah, they look pretty and so like it's from the outside looks terrible from the inside that's sick. That's a cool yeah from the inside. It's not bad at all. Yeah, some of them are actually like nice and here again. This is the evangel cone pillar thing that you say all over a angel in our in our old studio. Yeah, actually very common thing and then the rooftop was pretty sick. 58:08 It was like it had actual roof access with a swimming pool and there's a stage up there. This was a huge deal when he released this and then he built in furniture. Those are those are built in the couch things. Yeah, yeah. And so a lot of like I don't know these get a lot of hate because they look like this. But once you're like in them the spaces are actually not bad. Like they're kind of nice. Yeah, they he was a big proponent though of minimalism. So like most of his spaces like his idea was 58:38 he had this phrase doing too much the well. The phrase was it translates to existence, minimal, minimal, and so you would live in the least amount of space you could possibly take up was the idea. So that way there was room for everybody and that way you could have a lot of space and fit a lot of people in there and then he built this church that looks like a freaking cartoon villains layer. Oh yeah, this is despicable. Yeah, this is a church in France, 59:05 and then they started building all these housing blocks became super popular in the post war period. Yeah, these massive concrete conjections. Yeah, yeah, I mean you're right. This looks like the despicable me later and then India had this very interesting thing happen where they had like the two state solution or the two states merged together. They had this this capital city that there was planned capital city 59:33 called Shandagra, I believe is how you pronounce it, and they were like build the whole thing and he was like yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, 01:00:01 They painted some of the pillars. It's kind of cool. It's a mix. Some of it's interesting, some of it's not, but he built this whole city and it's very interesting to see because the ideas he had was building this way would not eliminate, but lessen the class differences was the arguments he would make because everyone's on more of a similar playing field. Sure. But what happened is 01:00:26 the working class ended up living in the smaller units, the existence, minimalism rich, you get out and the rich people built homes like this on the outside outskirts of the city, and so it further exasperated the problem. Yes, but the concepts went on to where these things did actually get built. Housing blocks like this got built all across soviet Russia, even in the states in some areas, people followed in his footsteps building constructions like this and in a weird way it did their 01:00:55 kind of sold his places to live and they're not they're not places that like in what's the Marie Kondo spark joy, but but they did create a lot of surplus housing in a time when it was necessary and it very much needed in that post war era. And so it had a very I shouldn't say very, but it had a positive impact because it gave people a place to live that otherwise probably wouldn't have had a place to live. And so it served a purpose, but they're they're not. 01:01:25 a fun to live in. And so there's kind of this like ebb and not an ebb and flow, but the two sides of that coin right. And so then because of the impact he made in all of this post war era, the U.N. said build our headquarters. And so he did. He designed the U.N. HQ, which is probably his. I probably. Yeah. I mean, a lot of his 01:01:50 his construction in the architecture community is like pretty not worthy, but this is probably the one that at least in the states we all I don't know if we all know this. I do yeah, but you know that what's the room without the green wall? So he make that room. What you in what are you talking about in like the chamber that they all are in and I'm with that green marble wall behind him. I mean, I'm sure he does. I'm sure you don't talk about this one. 01:02:16 is what you're talking about yeah, because look on the look when you see it on a video it looks is it gold? I mean the law is the gold. think yeah, this is the room I'm talking about. Maybe it's the marble front of this thing. You know yeah, it's the green carpet. Maybe yeah, that's the carpet that my church had in elementary school modeled after the you in yeah. Did he make this room? That's what I'm saying. I mean yeah like he made all he designed the whole place. He designed the whole place. He didn't just design the outside okay crazy 01:02:45 So very influential. The point I'm trying to make, he's a very influential architect who had it not been for him, the prefab industry wouldn't have existed and the concrete architecture thing wouldn't have an interest existed and these housing blocks that we see all over the place, like he had a pretty massive impact on the built world that we live in today. you can say really two things about that. One, he made it possible for us to build 01:03:14 at a much faster rate than we've ever been able to build and create much more space and be much more efficient and that allowed more housing to be built and made it possible for a lot of people to be lifted out of poverty. Sure, but they also kind of suck to look at yeah a little bit like he really, he really fought against Victorian architecture and the ornamentation and like and now we live in a world that's like starting to try to fight back towards ornamentation and being a little bit more interesting and like 01:03:43 doing things that don't suck. But we still live in a world that's really, really steeped in efficiency. And that's not just him, but he's the one who brought that into architecture. And so his impact is still felt to this day. And anytime you drive through a cookie cutter neighborhood, you know exactly who to thank. That's La Cogbercie. 01:04:03 And so when you drive Charles, you drive through it, you feel dead inside. Yeah, you know, those like a barium type neighborhoods or it's like all these houses look the same. That's my wife's nightmare is to live in a neighborhood where all the houses I know you I don't get. I grew up in one. It feels like home to me. Yeah. When you're driving through, it's just like nostalgic. You can't really tell them apart that much. Yeah, I love that. I love that we're all living the same existence. All right, fiddle off. 01:04:37 Hey, thanks for watching this episode of things alone last night. If you liked it and you wanted to learn more about architectural history, facts, things that happen, we did a whole episode about tartaria, which is the truth, absolutely about how the mudslides hid all of our buildings like they, guess, you know, there's a theory that humans built all this really fancy architecture and all this stuff and the mudslides covered it all up and then humans don't actually know how to do that stuff anymore. It's a very government is covering it up and they're lying. There's a lot of 01:05:06 we cut Tim's crap. I'm doing the answer right now. Good night, keep going comply, but there's like part of the theory is like they didn't know how to actually make that stuff anymore. 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