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00:00 Hey man, hey happy to be here guys. Have you ever heard of you know? I just want to take a moment as we get into this episode just to really ground ourselves and just you know that tone that people get into where they're like anyway. They just go hey, I just really want to know you know that I'm here for you yeah and oh 00:24 oh people like oh you get uncomfortable when people are like supportive to you. No, I get uncomfortable when they're like performing for support support. Isn't that crazy anyway? Hey, like I did to you, the a shut up. I'm doing a bit sorry. Hey, be quiet. I'm doing a bit. Yeah, thanks. Hey, if you're listening to this, I want you to know that we're just so thankful that you listen to our podcast and you know we couldn't do this without you every dollar counts. 00:57 the setless seed. Have you heard of the Matsu Kawa? Have you heard of Matsu Kawa? No, that's a Kawa here. Let me, let me, you're going to say it again, because I went no, I tried to break the cycle. Sorry, uh it's August seventeenth, nineteen forty nine three o nine a.m. uh There 01:20 think I did it. I mean just look at uh ladies and gentlemen, the jury. I would like to prevent present evidence number one. Look at just a gander. Open your eyes right there man who is clearly a villain. 01:41 Things I learned last night. 01:50 uh to hook, who main line passenger train is traveling in the Fukushima province, which is this is Japan, Shima, Arkansas, Fukushima, Arkansas. They're coming in on the mats. Well, it's pronounced fukusha around here. That would be because that's how anyways they're in unincorporated land coming to the town of Matsukawa. 02:20 uh and what the stop the what do you call it pilots stop? What do you the conduct coming right now? The conductors of tell me right now you're pushing through Tim. No, you said a specific time they are coming in to the station there unincorporated land there. There's still a decent distance from the station though, like they're outside of town. What they don't know is that just around the next bend they uh 02:47 some bolts have been removed from the track and the track has been curved full feet off of the curve and the train obviously comes to that section of rail and at three o nine a.m. derails oh and flies off of the off of the tracks. Oh day. This was done by aliens. 03:16 I knew it was going there. This is not an alien episode. This has literally done. Oh my gosh dog was going to second you go three o nine a.m. middle of nowhere. I'm like all right, but but I guess we're going to talk about the mystery of why the track was curved. Is that we're going to talk about two two of the engineers were killed instantly. Yeah, the other the third. I guess they call him the fireman, not a firefighter, but they run the fire on right. He turned to another one of the crewman 03:46 and he lived just a long enough to say we've been sabotaged and then he died, which is a pretty hard way to die, not going to lie. We've been sabotage yeah and so he turns them as we've been sabotaged. Those were the only three deaths though and remarkably of the four hundred and twenty one people on board. Nobody else was even injured. That's crazy, which is pretty wild. I'm sure that there were some cosmetic like oh yeah, but nothing or significant, which is what I was just going to is this is a severe, I was also going to say look how intact the cars are 04:16 yeah, that is pretty phenomenal, but also they probably weren't going. You know they weren't yeah. I mean that it was just after they came around a bend. They're coming near they're nearing a station, so surely they were yeah they weren't down. They weren't full speed, so immediately after this twenty people were arrested for their alleged connection to the case. Okay, nineteen of them were communist lady labor party members. um One of them was a teenager who was not a communist. 04:44 ah and so yet ah these people were put on trial. This is nineteen forty nine nineteen forty nine post World War Two. Japan's honestly trying to figure out what their system is right. uh Yes, yeah, yeah, I would say so. I say they're still figure out they're of being told what their system is. It's still very new for them. Yeah, yeah, they're only a few years into what the new world is going to be post war uh and so on December six, nineteen fifty 05:13 um the trial finally finds all twenty of these people guilty, which night, which night did an august of twenty sorry of nineteen forty nine august of nineteen forty nine. So a full year later, these people are all found all found guilty all twenty of them are found guilty. Five of them received death sentences and the rest were given life in prison. um Okay, what is significant though is on august eighth, nineteen sixty one after a retrial 05:42 All 20 defendants were acquitted of their crimes. ah 05:48 So that's a long time. Eleven years yeah well had the death penalty already happened yeah. So what's interesting is there were five that received death sentences since then three others had been had received death sentences and other subsequent retrials long so short. This ended up having fourteen years of retrials and this one and it was until nineteen sixty three when the Japan Supreme Court finally upheld the decision in sixty one to allow them to be acquitted and released um but 06:18 eight of them were had received distances for their crimes that they did not commit, but they did they carry through the distance is what I'm saying yes got it yeah and so twelve of them got toe walk free. The other ones were not years. Your biggest fear is being arrested for that my that's my biggest fear is being killed by the state descends for something you did she's killed by the state in general. I think I guess it has to be an actual. I mean I guess any killing is a descends. Oh, I actually mean being killed at all 06:47 pretty big fear of mine. I would say top fears death dying yeah. Do what if you're doing that with people like you're on a you're on first date, you know and people like what's your biggest fear and most people are just like clowns spiders and you just go for it. Just go for it. Just go for it like being murdered by the state. Yeah, probably be a murder. say actually probably I don't know death. Honestly death fear 07:16 kind of far down because there's other fears on top. There's a great fear that I have. There's a got a really good one. There's an account on tick tock. I send it to you all the time. Yeah, you know exactly what I'm about. Now don't know exactly account on tick tock where a husband has some kind of injury or accident and now he is a quadriplegic and he's like mentally yes, I'm not uh whatever kind of brain injury he had yeah and so now he's in a chair and is not himself anymore. He has to be taken care of twenty four seven, but his wife has remarried 07:45 and he lives in the home with his children and her new husband right right and the new husband's also the new husband like feeds him. Honestly guys, I'm going to tell you right now. Put on record. I don't want that kill. I don't want that same same. want that put me on record too because there is the the part of you is like what if he knows like what if he's aware what if he knows and he just doesn't know like that and he just can't communicate. That's biggest fear. Biggest fear is that I'm laying in a hospital bed fully aware what's going on and I'm unable to communicate. That's 08:14 anyway. Hey, hey, hey, that's hiding in your chest. Welcome to the fun. Let's show. Let's do podcast. Let's do funny stuff or funny speaking of funny stuff and speaking of retrials and things speaking of stuff that went wrong. um So Tim revealed to me this week that he was going through some footage from high school. 08:39 and he found one. We were just kind of talking about oh high school, know, just like assignments that we used to do. I personally in high school. I did a presentation on the temple of Artemis. Yeah, I did a presentation on Charlie happens life. I did a presentation love trains big fan of train, so I did a I did a presentation on the railroad and how you know how that was built across the entire West and Tim did a presentation in high here. I set it up for us at so 09:09 I was, you know how sometimes like you're trying to remember something so you scroll back through Facebook, like all the old, this is probably a strictly millennial thing to do, but you just scroll through Facebook photos and tags to be like, okay, where's that one thing that happened that I'm trying to remember? And then I saw this video and I was like, oh, I forgot about this. And I told you a story that I now remember the true story. What actually happened was this was a friend's assignment and she was like, hey, I need somebody to come help me for this assignment. 09:37 and which is why I couldn't remember what class it was for okay, it wasn't for you or it wasn't. wasn't my class okay, and so I just volunteered to assist with this and so we have the video of what happened here. So tell what the assignment was first. The assignment was it. The assignment was for a government class and the assignment was to pick a world event and to create the newscast for like recreate the newscast for the world event and so so 10:05 government class Alex. Just think real quick. What are some newscasts off the top of your head for events that you would choose to do? You know, like and I let's even single it out. Let's let's narrow this down to where you can't get this right because let's narrow it down even further. Maybe it's not as world events. It's in its any time in history. The news didn't have to exist then right. Let's narrow it down to events that change the trajectory of 10:34 presidential terms. So like while you're in office, this happens changes the trajectory. Would you maybe go nine eleven changes the directory of George W Bush? Would you maybe go dropping the atomic bomb changes the trajectory and the legacy of Truman? Would you maybe go Pearl Harbor? You know, would you maybe go the Great Depression, maybe go um and then see what these students at this Lutheran school 11:01 chose as their major event. All right, here we go. This is due to a affair he had with Monica Lewinsky. Here's the footage of his resignation speech. 11:17 My fellow citizens, tonight is my last opportunity to speak to you from the Oval Office as your President. Note, I am profoundly grateful to you for twice giving me- MONICA! Hey Bill! boss, boss, boss, boss, boss, boss, boss, boss, boss, 11:43 This is you as Bill Clinton. 11:47 And then you go. 11:58 and she's in a. This is for sure two thousand and ten, because she's a two thousand and ten homecoming dress. 12:08 and you're doing you're doing okay. Keep playing. We got so much time left on this video up a touch. Hey, why are you here? Why shouldn't I be here? Who are you? Who are you? Who are you? you ladies stop fight right now? Monica need to get out of here. I'll call you later. 12:37 See you tonight! Bye babe! I mean... 12:44 Pause, pause. 12:56 so I'm I'm going to loss for words. This is Hillary behind you. I'm assuming yeah and this is Patrick's dad's office right like this is 13:13 This is just a friend's dad's office and that's actually a friend's dad's coat that I didn't even bring. So the adults involved in this as well. They were like yeah, you can use my office here. You can use my coat. What are you guys doing? Oh school. guys are going to recreate the moment that Bill Clinton got caught with Monica Lewinsky for the newscast for your class. Oh, you have an assignment from school to recreate the moment that Bill Clinton got caught with Monica whiskey. Sure use my office for that. Here's a jacket. It's a school project. 13:45 we got. How is there a whole keep going 13:49 bill. Who is that no one the honor to serve to her. Oh, was that no you don't need to worry about that. It's dumb a friend for your friends usually sit on your table. It wasn't my friend. It was my sister and wait to so your what pause you don't have to keep moving your mouse off the thing. It wasn't my friend. It was my sister. 14:18 Bill Clinton's excuse was she's my sister. Is that historical? No, not at all. That was this is ad lib now. I think I think it's important. It wasn't my friend. It was my sister. It's important to know the difference from the first half of this video to the back half because the first half was scripted and the back half start became ad lib and I think I think my delivery was much better in the ad lib. okay. Sure. Yeah, your Bill Clinton impression really got spot on. Okay, let's watch the last 14:47 oh So your sister sits on the table. No, my aunt. Prepare our nation for the 21st century. Could we, uh, cut? Please? My fellow Americans, I did not have sexual relations with that woman. 15:12 That's how it ends. 15:20 go back to the beginning. We're not done with the video that ex out of this go back to the very beginning, not of your part of the newscast. I don't think there's any reason for these girls to have facial hair in the news. It was the news. Oh yeah, and the news in the time was all dudes. Yeah, she gave herself a soul patch, the Christmas tree in the background. 15:47 and then the girl in the center is whose assignment it was. guess because she's also playing Hillary right. I don't remember whose assignment it was okay. It might have been all three of them. 16:01 so I'm at a loss for words, so 16:08 so this is a world where Lutheran high school kids yeah again. Alex could have chosen. ah I mean the civil war could have done Lincoln could have done Lincoln's assassination. 16:26 Kutterdine! 16:29 so many options and these kids were like, yeah, a historical event that happened in government officials was when bill Clinton got caught and 16:49 We need to recreate this. 16:55 I cannot believe and this is on the internet and the three of them. What my favorite part about this is the three of them were like who would be our bill and I was like yeah, I'll do it one hundred percent. Y'all can be bill. 17:12 I wasn't even in the class. They were just like we just need someone who would be willing to be bill for this. Also, I think that girl is wanted to wear that dress for that video yeah yeah yeah yeah and then whoever's mom posted that video on Facebook. It was crazy is I don't none of their last names. I'm not going to say last name, but none of the last names are the last name of this mom and I'm like I'm like who posted this because I this was in my tag videos and so I'm like okay. I don't 17:42 maybe it's like a step mom, but I don't think wow had a step mom. I don't ask my aunt my sister. It's not a friend. It was my sister. I can't believe on this podcast we have to show you pretending to be built in high school. 18:04 I don't know how we pivot back into this story. So sorry, that was just a tangent that he showed us this and we were like, all right, let's play that on the pie. was like, you know what? I watched two seconds of it as a no. Let's watch this on the podcast. 18:18 and now I'm now I'm left to process it. I'm sorry that we're doing this live. Okay, so this is another pivotal event that happened. Yeah, this might have been a better one to cover. Okay, would it be so how do we get through? How do we go from twenty people are guilty to fourteen years later? Actually, they're all innocent, but we killed eight of them already. Yeah, we actually need to go back to the beginning of this whole period, like right after the war, because after the war, 18:47 there was a guy by the name of General. Let me get his name General Douglas MacArthur and he here he is yes. Yeah, the coolest guy ever. Okay, you can't you can't say that's not the coolest guy ever. That's a homemade pipe for okay. I just I think that you knowing more about Douglas MacArthur. I don't think you should be like oh no, no yeah he's he this guy's great. Yeah, this guy is great. 19:16 Oh yeah, I'm thinking of somebody else. MacArthur did he didn't he for the Philippines? Oh, I don't know about that. I mean what he doesn't know he's great. He's here, so he's got a cork, cop pipe and a button nose. 19:32 yeah, describe the picture and two eyes made out of coal. No, he's just a you know, forties. This is a colorized picture. I'm sure sure yeah yeah of he's just a general in the forties with us corn cob pipe, which is pretty sick to be asked. It is. This is a great photo. I wish okay. Let's say I got to go soon. You can't spend five minutes on how much you love his very arms. Let's keep it move. Sorry about that. Okay, so he gets tasked with he gets tasked with 19:58 you need to restore Japan. That's it. Yeah, and so he his belief is what we need to do is we need to bring democracy to Japan and so that's what I'm saying. Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, so he facilitates a world where okay, he removes all of the people that were part of the Japanese government during the. What are you doing? Are you? I'm trying to find out there's the same person that I'm thinking of. I think you're thinking of a different MacArthur. I think his name is John. think John MacArthur is who you're thinking of general at the same time frame who was less great. 20:27 I think his name was John, uh but he ah he goes to the all the Japanese officials, the generals, politicians, uh top ranking military officials that aren't generals. Yeah, is this is on thinking of yeah, he oversaw the reconstruction of the Philippines. Okay, yeah, which checks out given what he did in Japan, ah and so he goes to the high ranking military officials during the uh 20:56 who were high ranking during World War Two, labels them class a war criminals, arrest them all, and then installs his own democratic government uh and then kind of sets democracy on his course. And his big thing was he really believed that if you allow all of the possibilities of uh ideologies to exist next to each other, the best one will rise to the top and the people would elect the best and 21:23 uh He set up labor unions. He set up all this stuff like really similar to this era of the United States. He was mimicking in Japan. He shut down. was a name doesn't matter. There was the name. There's this corporation uh that was a monopoly. They can only be 21:44 by the Sun, he had a really negative impact on Japan post World War Two. 21:55 Hey, join us on Patreon if you want this to be ad free and also there's a bunch of other perks you get to all episodes are ad free. You get next week's episode right now and you get to do monthly hangouts with me and Tim. Like we really look it's like a virtual just hangout room and we play games together. We talk, we have show and tell sometimes we've made a lot of good friends through this and so it's a really good time to do that. So either way, please share the episode, tell somebody about it. These are all those ways to help us grow the show because we love doing it. We want to keep doing it. So thanks for being here. 22:29 They're called the Zybatsu. The Zybatsu was this monopoly that controlled literally everything in the country. they, they, they weren't just like a corporate monopoly. Like we think of monopolies, they were like a cartel, like they killed people who disagreed with them and got in the way of their corporate profits. And so it's kind of like if, Tesla just started killing people, this was the Zybatsu. Don't prophetically put that out there. Oh, sorry. It was kind of like if bleep started killing people. 22:57 just be like if bleep started bleeping people, I do that for the algorithm. Yeah, we kind of save ourselves. So um so you shut down the Zay Batsu took all their like tentacles that were different and yeah broke them up and broke them up into business like trust busted them essentially and trust busters and this works pretty well. If I ever run, that's why we're gonna use my campaign trust busters and it goes pretty hard. Yeah dude, 23:27 it goes pretty hard. I like it was pretty hard. It's just me with a backpack vacuum being like all the darks trillionaires. That's pretty sick actually it's it's base. I was getting sucked into the back. Yeah, yeah, and his true his true form is revealed shrivels back into the small little dude that he is crazy. He looks like you're in high school. Have you seen this most recent video of Zuckerberg? 23:57 doing wrestling. I don't know some UFC fighter. I sure it is so obvious in this fight that the UFC fight is letting him waiting a toddler. Yeah, that's what it looks like. Yeah, he's letting him. It is the funniest thing I've ever seen. It's like they're like it is like there's nothing behind these punches. He's throwing it's literally like this speed and the guy's like taking them like this. He's like it's it is absurd, absurd. I mean, I think this is what I keep saying. 24:27 you know, this is not a crash out. Don't worry. ah I'm saying that everything that I grew up with people being like you can't let the government get too big or they're going to do this kind of stuff. You know, we're going to have these tyrants and all this stuff. It's like dude, you guys love it when the corporations do it though is because like they're straight up doing the Emperor's stuff where Zuckerberg is like I am really good at this and they I mean they're doing the Putin riding a bear photos. Yeah, you know shirtless on a horse on a river. 24:56 Yep, and you're just like, what are you? What are we talking about? Yep, it's crazy crazy times, but because their corporations as good doesn't count. Oh yeah. Oh hey, the government's going to make a surveillance state. We got to watch out for that. No, they're not Facebook did it. It's ring doorbell camera footage that the police can subpoena. Then now your entire neighborhood is covered with accessible cameras. Yeah, oh, but the companies did it, so that's fine. Yeah, because it's corporate. That's crazy. uh 25:26 bolster profits. You know what I gotta say to that? Monica! 25:33 Same kind of surprise. Suckerberg! 25:39 that's why I'm not afraid. I've seen that guy fight. You know what Mark come punch me, but see what happens. You're already punching me by not delivering my Instagram comp. My isram content to the people who follow me, punch me for real. Watch me in real life. I actually, I please I want it. I want you to punch me so bad. I this day. I don't like the turn 26:04 I want you to punch me so bad. I really can't even continue on unless you punch me in the mouth right now. I want you to hit me. I want you me so soft. 26:20 Okay, so meanwhile, do you think when mark, do think when mark Zuckerberg goes to kiss his wife? He's like zucker up so fuck her up. Do you think? Do you think that happens zucker up? He seems like he kisses his kids in the lips. Yeah, he probably does. He probably does. He kissed your kid in the lips. Now I did he's for the world. Archer might be why I'm not a lot of your house anymore. 26:49 it is uncomfortable because like you'll be burping them and then he doesn't know what he's doing with his face and so he'll just turn and just like latch on to your ear and just like blot and you're like out of here. It is so uncomfortable and then like when he's fifteen he does the same. They're gonna be like you used to nibble on my ear. Get over here, get over you're going all right, so 27:19 So Douglas MacArthur's do is repairing this side of the world yeah, but meanwhile his number two this guy by the name of General Charles Willoughby. um He is uh serving alongside of him helping restore democracy right, but he's also tasked with setting up this secret intelligence unit called the G two um and for his role. What he's doing is he's he's setting up a spy network to make sure within Japan within Japan to make sure everything is 27:48 working the way they want it to work yeah, and it's part of that. He says you know the best way to spy on people is to get a dare program. The dare program was an initiative to put police officers in schools. It was never about getting kids off of drugs or her drug prevention. It was just about putting police officers into high school so they could spy on kids and arrest kids early close. uh So he said the best way the best way to spy on people is to get corrupt people to do it so true behind through general mccArthur's back. He goes 28:18 to one of the top class A war criminals that MacArthur prosecuted and makes a deal and says, Hey, I happen to know that you were out here, you know, war crime and, uh and you didn't have very good morals. He said, you took a hundred million dollars in gold from China. He did that. Um, and true. And he said, he said, what do you say? You spy on your own people. And I was like, what's in it for me? He's like, I'll get you out of prison. And he was like, deal. And so he brings one of those, 28:48 war criminals out of prison starts paying him to spy on his own people. Okay, so this guy starts infiltrating Japan ah and then this becomes this network of him slowly but surely releasing different war criminals to become spies in this g two organization. While this is all happening and Douglas MacArthur knows this is happening. He does not know this is he did well. He knows that spies are going. He doesn't know those two is there yeah. He knows G two is there, but he believes they're functioning similar to the CIA like they're above board got their American agents. 29:16 that are spying on the Japanese sure and uh there is a subordinate in the G to a guy by the name of Charles writer who is very opposed to what's happening in this country because what he noticed I heard a theory recently that a lot of modern spies actually don't know that they're spies that the way they do it now is not sending someone in and being like you're going to get this information. They're just getting them a job at this place and then 29:45 asking them questions, getting updates about their job. Huh? That's interesting, and so it's like this person has no idea they're a spy. It's a lot easier. That's what I'm saying. Like I mean, I guess not easier, but it's like easier to make sure that person doesn't get killed and I mean yeah, but they don't blow their cover and that's what I'm saying is like the person's not sitting there being like I'm under cover, you know, yeah, interesting. That is really interesting actually, and I mean if they do careful you give information to you know guys yeah. If they do get picked up by the enemy, the enemy can't be like tell us what you know, because they know nothing. 30:13 Like, I don't know, I'm just an accountant, man. I just I'm just here doing the numbers. OK, so there's this other guy, Charles Ryder, and in forty eight, I'm just doing the numbers in nineteen forty eight. He's watched this democracy experiment play out for a couple of years now. what he's noticed is. MacArthur's ideal is no matter what happens, if we let everybody do their own thing, right, let them all work together. The best is going to rise to the top. 30:40 And what Ryder is seeing is it appears like communism is growing in force uh because what happened is there was a little bit of the economy had this initial spike after the war, but then it kind of leveled out. The labor unions started growing in power uh and there started to be like an economic upheaval. There was one specific event where they called it the decapitation, which is super hard. uh 31:07 they had the Japanese word for it, but it translates to the decapitation where hundreds of thousands people got laid off overnight because the economy dropped. ah And this made the communism party like kind of swell where a lot of people were looking for something after losing their job. And they found communism. And so Ryder is seeing this happen and he thinks that this is a threat to the world. And he thinks that democracy is takes a backseat to beating communism. 31:35 And so if we have to take democracy away from these people to destroy this communism that's uprising, we need to do that interesting. So he writes what a famous letter called the rider letter pops it off to large to Washington. uh MacArthur has no idea that this happens and he basically says this is an issue of national security. MacArthur can't be in charge anymore. He's allowing communism to rise up here. He's trying to pull a coup on MacArthur. Yes, so he write he pops like this letter to Washington and Washington's like. Oh, we didn't know that communism was on the rise in Japan. 32:05 And so they send an official ah to uh Japan to basically uh fire MacArthur and be like, what are you doing? The communism is on the rise here. The communism. The communism is on the rise here. And so they didn't fire him, but they did tell him, hey, this democracy thing that you're doing, letting them kind of do their own stuff, you can't do it anymore. You've got to take back control. You've got to make sure communism doesn't succeed here. 32:35 and what's very interesting. You know, okay, it's interesting how okay, I got a lot of thoughts, but we're not crashing out of this podcast ever again. So we'll do that in the after the fiddle. So yeah, so he goes, hey, democracy is fine as long as it goes the way we want it to go. Yeah, which is 33:02 okay yeah exactly, and so then things sounds pretty hard. We like democracy unless it goes that way. You're like well, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, very accurate ah and so almost instantly after this happens, the letter gets sent off uh this official comes and uh leaves the right act to general MacArthur. 33:31 MacArthur's told us to change, change ways. Democracy starts to kind of swell down. Uh, and over the course of the next year, the war criminals that were all arrested were acquitted of their crimes, released from prison. Communist leaders that had risen to power through democracy, democratic means were then taken and imprisoned and the, uh, war criminals were placed in power and became leaders of the government in, uh, 34:00 in this new version of Japan. What year was that again? 49. And so in 49 uh in July of 49, there is a president of let me see, let me see the president of the national railway authority seemed to be sympathizing a little bit with the labor unions. Okay. On July 5th, 1949, he was found scattered around railroad tracks in Tokyo. uh And they said that 34:29 the official ruling brutal way to say that to the official ruling is that he walked out there on his own official uh volition took his own life by standing on the like laying down on the railroad tracks. Okay, but an autopsy revealed that he was probably dead before he even arrived to the railroad tracks yeah and that crime was never solved uh and shortly after that there was derailment that killed a handful of people and then another derailment that killed a handful of people and then this derailment 34:58 that I started this episode talking about right and we what happened immediately is these twenty communists were round up and the way they were found is they were people who were members. would the fire guys say we were sabotaged? Well, it's because the the track was moved and so the track was it wasn't like they were doing something. It wasn't like 35:24 the train was full of people who were like pro democracy or whatever and they were sabotaged like I mean yeah. We don't know much about the people on the it wasn't the train itself wasn't targeted. It was just that like it wasn't like that train was targeted yeah. It was just we were just trying to cause some damage got it yeah and so pretty quickly a handful of people who worked for the railroad were arrested and the story line here was they found some tools and a nearby rice patty 35:53 that could have been used on the job and then at the nearby rail station, there was a shed that had been broken into. But what is interesting is the storyline is they arrested these people because they worked for the railroad um and the so why did they have to break in to the tools? Also, the tools that were found in the rice paddy were not the right tools to do the job. They were just tools. You need larger like just a hammer and a screwdriver. 36:19 there's a stapler in the rice paddy. So we think that's what they used to do. Oh yeah, Tim, most common tools, hammer screwdriver stapler. I'm trying to think of like, what's the big man over here works a lot with tools. What is the least likely tool to sabotage a railroad? Dixon tie condor, roga number two pencil office supplies. 36:46 No, no, no, no, no, 37:15 the difference between a hammer and a hammer head. So they found a handful of people who just happened the way you just talk sounds like we made an audio cut. We did not the way you talk sounds like we made a hard cut and then you just went back in. I want you to know this is the same mom Tim's just embarrassed that he said stapler instead of staple gun and now he's trying to get out ever bad so staple nail gun. So they they arrest these twenty 37:42 these these communists that work for the railroad that are connected to the labor union connected to the labor union. They arrest these twenty people yeah. What's interesting is they don't they don't arrest twenty. They arrest a handful of people who were connected were connected to the labor union with ties to the communist party. So do you think the rising communist party they did? This is really interesting. Then they find a kid who happened to be in the area, a teenager who happened to be in the area and the police told him hey, the communist told us you did this and so you should 38:12 get back at them. The commies told us you did this. Yeah. And so they said, but you should get back at them by telling us the rest of the people who were involved. And so this kid just gave them some names and under coercion confessed to being a part of it uh because he was a child. And so they arrest this teenager and a bunch of these other communists that they connected to it and uh 38:40 obviously we know what happens next. They go into trial. The communist told us you did it yeah goes pretty hard. I don't know you just stuff that you've been saying. So the commies said you did this. I have no idea. I like I like give us a name. I like I don't know anyone give us a name one name. I don't know anyone give us one name Monica. The build up was a bit 39:10 I like I like more that they were like you should get back at them. You should get back. Yeah, you know what really put them in their place is if you put them to prison. I love tell us about them. You convicted. Do you know any commies? Yeah, does all the commies you know. Oh uh Lenin, I guess I that's only what I can think of uh yeah, so they go on trial Lenin who's going to be there twenty years from now. 39:44 Hey, if you love the show, a great way to serve support is by getting some merch. We got lots of great stuff. I'm going to showcase some of it right now. This is like our little tilling QVC. You can get a it's not a call. It's a podcast sweatshirt. Very sweet. The nice thing about this is no one knows what podcast you're talking about. So you wear it in public and you can tell them about your Lord and Savior to a podcast. We also got the this is one of my favorite things we've ever made. The fiddle off fest hoodie. 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Yeah, you're to do a two minute merch ad. wasn't a two minute merch ad. Oh, Jaren's a good designer. Give him a high five. Make him feel good about his art. 41:19 and then you're to make them listen to two minutes of ads. We got to do all that and then it's going to be like back to school this fall like 41:29 I don't want to be. I hate skippable ads. They're not skip. They are skippable. Yeah. YouTube premium leave all this in that. 41:43 so they uh yeah, no try to move on. It's okay linen so from the sixties, so they go the future yeah. He was alive. He might have known him. He might have known young Lenin. I don't know them. It's like it's like it's like young Sheldon like like what was he like back then? Have you ever watched this and thought the fact that young Sheldon got 42:09 like eleven seasons. How many that's great. It really is like eleven seasons. Here's I think it got more than Big Bang Theory. 42:18 here's which is crazy. I was I was in I was at a gig and the guy was driving me to the thing and he tells me that his daughter has a YouTube channel ah 42:30 Okay, his daughter runs a YouTube channel. Yeah, that is like a young Sheldon's fans YouTube channel, and he said that and I was and he wasn't joking. Oh my gosh, but she got like two million views on these videos that are just compilations of young Sheldon episodes. They're not even like 42:52 commentary. It's just compiling. No, no, no, she's yeah. She doesn't have a set up in her room where she's like setting up and being talking about it like hey guys. This week's episode was this. No, she's just doing compilations. That's great. So young Sheldon fans exist. That is crazy. Okay, maybe you're listening to this and you're like wait. I'm a young Sheldon fan. No, you're not 43:17 No, you're not. You should have. You're a communist. Don't you want to get we're going to find them? Oh, I want get back at the commies. Anybody who watches young Sheldon communist 43:33 ha ha ha. I turned you into the police bazanga, so they put them on trial and the trial. There was no real evidence pretty much a media. There's a spin off show of young Sheldon. Yes, what's that? I think ah so it's a spin off of the spin off at this point. That's crazy. Let's see young Sheldon spin off. Yes, because it's 44:01 George and Mandy, which is oh that's from that yeah. Their characters in I always want to call that Billy and Mandy very different Emily. Emily Osmond is yeah, say yeah and it's always it his parents. 44:16 are. Is that who that is? I don't know. I know it's called. It's like georgia georgia and mandy's first marriage is what's called. Isn't it george and mandy's first marriage? Yeah, because they they run those ads all the time. Do you know the characters? No, I don't know anything about it. I didn't know it was a spin off of it's got renewed for a second season. Yeah, I know and this is what I'm saying dude. I have so many more creative ideas that we could turn into shows and you guys are like what if we did george and mandy's first mayor 44:46 I mean, it is like it is one of the problems with the society we live in because at the end of the day, like what matters is not like we're creating something that's actually going to 20 people got a right. 45:06 I hate you so much. You're trying to get into your social commentary. No, go ahead, finish it. Go ahead. Oh, what I'm saying, all I'm saying is like it's not about like, can we create something that's actually good? It's it's can we create something that's going to generate revenue and big bang was a smash smash hit and so even if you get a fraction of the people who are fans of that to be a fans of young Sheldon, you've got to show that is profitable, but that's what I was same thing with this is like you can kind of 45:30 extrapolate that down and just squeeze that lemon for all, but that's what I'm saying too is that's I was saying about traders is like you know. I watched the season one and it's half people who are new to reality tv and then half people who are like on the bachelor and big brother and survivor like you know reality tv celebrities, but season two and three was just celebrities. You know and they use the word celebrities pretty freely, but like being I'm saying like where it's like oh so 45:55 and even like this season of amazing race was just people who have been on Big Brother or sire before yeah and it's stuff like that where it's like the entry level to these things is gone because no one watches the entry level anymore. So now you're just recycling the audience over and over and being like well, you like them. You're like I'm over here. You want to watch this show because you like them because they're you like them yeah and that's it's one those things where there's no way nobody is planning for five years from now anymore. They're literally just trying to ride this out yep 46:25 and survive and no one apart from HBO or Netflix is doing new ideas right now, and I think it's because because no business. I mean, I guess Hollywood's a little different right now. Hollywood is a different game because they're not. They're not operating like this, but when you look at the rest of the business world, like everyone's just playing for an exit, they're not playing for like a long 46:45 Yeah, I mean every CEO is just trying to ramp up the stock price to get their exit. Yeah, they know they're no one ever happens after no one's trying to have a business that is successful thirty years from now. They're trying to have a stock that's successful next quarter, yeah, and that's not a sustainable way to run stuff. Yeah, and like you know, I mean we know that from when we try to pivot to YouTube heavy, that's not sustainable like yeah, you know, it's just not 47:11 what is sustainable is the growth that we've done and supporting us on patreon. So if you support us on patreon you get next week's episode for free, you know, not for free, but you get next week's episode ad free yeah and you to join the discord where we hang out. So that's sustainable growth. Yeah, I'm excited to announce our next podcast, Jernan Tim's first. It's a spin off. We're actually going to do a spin off show where Alex uh 47:39 gives all the behind the scenes details, but he does it from that desk over there. So you get the camera footage and we and we cut his three cameras that just cut empty seats as Alex over there going talking about stuff. Yeah. So this is what happens and they do this sometimes and they all complain about their wives kind of it and I don't we don't complain about our talking about so 48:06 night. We did come in today. Apparently my wife posted on her close friend story last night and excluded me from it. Okay, I literally I literally I know Reagan. You're listening to this while you're quality control with Jared. I have to come right back. I watched that close story and I was like I need to make sure I don't tell and then I saw that I said dude. Did I send you the picture of this light that our landlord put in and you were like yeah, I saw that story and I was like oh, did I 48:31 did I miss that and she posted on our go to your account and I literally was like oh no oh no oh no stupid oh you dumb so next time you need jaren to not see something take me off your close friends too because I can't be trusted to not see 48:49 So the drama is this. We put up string lights at our apartment that looked really nice and then I'll send this picture to Robert. The landlord was like oh man, you guys can't have string lights didn't tell us why we're trying to figure out if that's okay, but we'll figure out a different solution. I said no, no, no, I don't need you to figure out a solution like we just liked how they looked. We can take them down and they came and put this industrial like flood light out there, which is not the same as having 49:17 Yeah, you know, ambient string lights in your backyard. Yeah, it's like having a flood light in your yard, which is not fun to hang out in. Yeah, and so we were like, I literally called my landlord. It's it was seven thirty last night and I said hey, sun went down. This lights on you got to come tomorrow and take this down. This is not staying up or I'm going to smash it. Yeah, because it's it is like yeah. 49:40 we don't have to spend any time on this. We don't spend time on this because we're going to crash out about how landlords don't give a crap about where you live and that's really it really. was going to say I was like I was like they tried but they don't they didn't think about it. I literally said to him on the phone. I said he wouldn't do this in your backyard. Yeah, I the same way you wouldn't have put that microwave you put like we had a microwave that broke. They came in like it was a four hundred dollar microwave. They came and gave us a fifty dollar microwave that was a third of the size and put it in the same little square. So now there's all this dead space around this tiny little microwave and I sent a picture. I said 50:10 if this was your kitchen, you would not do that to your own kitchen. Yeah, you wouldn't do that to where you live. I mean, but I think realistically what probably happened is he told the maintenance guy, he said, he said, hey, get a light that's bright enough to light that whole space. Don't spend more than a hundred bucks on it and I'm sure that's what happened and I'm calling and going. I didn't ask you to do that. I asked, hey, how do we make the string lights possible? Yeah, trying to work. I would rather have no lights than whatever this is, which, which to be fair, he's trying to think, okay, they want to hang out out there. They need some light. I'm going to try to solve that problem for them, but like 50:40 it. No, it's not. I think it's not trying to think that I think it's a disconnect of like it's like it's like they need a light out there. Don't you dare take? You know what I'm not. Don't you dare take the landlord side on this putting myself in somebody else's shoes. That's what okay, but that's why Reagan was mad at me because Reagan calls me. She wants to be mad and I go okay. Listen, I understand that we're mad about this, but I'm going to I'm going to call landlord. I'm going to get him and take this light down, but I need you to go take those string lights down yeah, because I can't send him a picture of this light with the string light still up still up yeah. 51:08 you know and she was like I'm not going to take him down. I need you to do that. I need to take the lights down so that I can send the picture of this light so I can let him know that this is bad and this needs to come down tomorrow. Like this is not. I'm not going to live with this light for a month and be like oh whenever you get around to it, I'm going tell you if this isn't down by tomorrow. I am smashing this light. I would have taped over it immediately. I would have gone out there with duct tape and just taped over it. That's what I'm going to do. I don't like. No, we're not having this light is not going to be on. Yeah, this is it is absurdly bright anyway. 51:38 So anyways, so if you support us on Patreon, maybe I can own a home. 51:44 You ever think about that? You're a thing about that you selfish jerks. You're thinking if you just shared this episode, if everyone who listens to this shared this episode with one person, we could actually have good ads again. How about that? How about that? Did you ever think about while you're sitting in your thing about why you're there? You're just like sitting there watching us on YouTube or listening that you're just like, man, if I just listened on two devices, man, they can really you ever, have you ever thought about where you're sitting there eating, eating food in your rental home? Well, you're like, man, if I gave $20 a month, Jerry could own his home. 52:13 and then I could put a floodlight in my backyard. I could do it to my want to be able to do it to be able to sell back there. I could ruin my own life instead of someone else doing it. Someone else. I want to say that's what I'm mad about my life. So anyway, Reagan, just know that if you post in your close friends, you don't include me. I'll find out shouldn't have put me on there. I think I so 52:41 I genuinely I want can't hide nothing. I watched it. I watched it and I almost I almost screenshot of it and said to Jerry and I was like no, that's not cool. I was like I'm not going to tell Jaren I'm going to protect this and then Jaren brought it up and I was like oh yeah. I saw that on the story. I was like oh freak betrayed my wife's trust so quickly. So now we've learned two things 53:03 one. My wife's trying to hide things and to my best friend is not trustworthy. So imagine how I feel, but honestly one honestly shut up. Honestly, I stop talking of anything. Be quiet. I you should my life is being ruined. My life is being ruined by my wife who hides things from me, my best friend who can't keep secrets and my landlord who wants to brighten up my driveway. 53:27 supporters on patreon so that I can reclaim my life and my dignity. We got to get out of here for real though. Okay, so let me wrap this up so so these twenty commi 53:40 these twenty communists get arrested yeah and the trial was a mess like pretty much immediately in the trial. It's pretty obvious that they have no idea yeah. The prosecution is trying to be like it's these guys and this lags on for years and years. Are you saying that the war criminals that are now in charge did this is a red flag. They did the rail derailment, so what's what's tough to know what we do know here's what we do know is 54:08 the prox in was with that rail. Yeah, yes, for sure, for sure. It was definitely tampered with. Yes, that could not happen naturally, but the prosecution was trying to say it was these twenty people that acted together. It was this big conspiracy, but the evidence that they brought forward was not good. The tools that they were showing were not the tools you needed for the job. Stay for the storyline didn't didn't add up. And what's even more interesting is they as the story progressed and more evidence arose, they went back to 54:37 the people that they convicted and they had them revise their confessions. They said, hey, here's what we know now. Like, what do you want to say about that? And so they had them like change their stories halfway through. so even within what is now a corrupt legal system, the system was like, this still doesn't add up. this still, and so they held them, they put them on trial, they convicted them. 55:04 but it just kept getting brought back up in court for fourteen years. Almost every single year this was retrial after retrial and eventually they got acquitted, acquitted. The people who actually did this were never caught. What's interesting is it does the difference in corruption that we have now and just like you know, to tell it totalitarian regimes. Yeah, is that the corruption we have now is still kind of gummed down by 55:33 we've got to make this palatable yes through the current judicial system. Yes, you know, so it's it has to somewhat make sense. Yes, it can't just be. We want to kill this guy. Yeah, you know what's really interesting is they painted this whole story line that the communist did this and then that other murder and then all the other train derailments and it was these terror plots that the communists were doing right and the growing communist movie a movement died down because everyone was like other terrorists. 56:02 They're killing people. I can't be involved with them. And the liberal Democratic Democratic Party rose to power. And uh technically speaking, like the system you see in Japan today is a democratic system. And it's and it's a uh thriving economy. That's a place where it's safe to live. But for the 70 years that the Japan has been this sort of democracy since this happened, 56:31 66 of them, the LDP was in power. And so it's pretty clear that uh this set in motion a system that solidified this party as being the people who got to be in power. And what we do know is that after this, there is record through nation after nation after nation where communism began to rise, the CIA meddled and removed people from power and 57:00 killed people and did similar sorts of terror plots. Do you the CIA derail the train? It seems likely, it seems likely that this was the first thing we don't have the evidence. We don't know for sure, but it seems likely they had this G two system. They were letting, we do know that they were letting all the war criminals out. And so whether they were the ones who actually went and did the work or they planned it and had somebody else go to the work, it seems likely that they did this because after this happened and after communism died down in Japan, 57:27 they said, oh, this is a good way to stop communism and it happened over and over and over again with the CIA would back things like this and actively take part in things like this. And we also know that they for decades were giving millions of dollars a year towards the LDP to make sure that the LDP was successful straight from the CIA's bank account. uh So not even laundering it. No, they were just like, yeah, we like you. Here's millions of dollars be successful. Well, the other side of that too is that there's this 57:56 a lot of America's power in the world is through our soft power. Yes, where we are because I mean it may be the logic from government leadership is the devil. You know is better than the one you don't right and so uh you know a lot of the people that we support or money that we give 58:18 people like well, why are we giving money? We need to be taking care of the homeless vets here before we give money anywhere else and it's like yeah, but the the investments that we make in this country like specifically like India, for example, is the investments that we've made over these past thirty forty years in India has returned dividends on they send their best and brightest to our universities and then those those people end up building and leading and running companies here that prop up our economy. So those are that's money that we got back. 58:46 yeah, and so it's the same kind of stuff where it's like yeah. Of course that looks sketchy on paper for them to be like we give money to this government, but it's also like that's an investment that we're making in an ally hundred percent, hundred, you know yeah and so those are things that you could draw that and be like well they're giving money to that party, which means that they want that party to succeed. Well, they're giving money to the people who are in charge because they want a good working relationship with those people in charge and they don't have a relationship with the opposition party yeah and so it's like 59:13 I do you know that's that's a good that's for them to kind of figure out and sort out of their own, but for now you know we can get we're not giving you this money to solely be that opposition yeah, but you know they don't want to work with us and you do yeah that's better for us. So I mean there's a lot of stuff where it's not a black and white of the US gives money. That means they fully support this thing hundred percent. You know, I might not be aware of everything of course. 59:40 and like twenty years later, then it blows up in their face and it obviously we all go like oh wow, like that's what I keep saying about like you know presidents in the past. We've made decisions that fifty years later made these these situations that were like oh my gosh wait, we're screwed yeah yeah. It's not like I don't think there was like this shadow puppet master who was like yeah, I'm going to destroy the economy fifty years from now. I think they were doing what was what was 01:00:06 you know everybody's doing the best they can with what they have. That's what I'm saying. It also could be that the CIA is like yeah. We kind of want to have control over this. I do think I do think, especially you're coming out of World War Two, where we know what World War Two was, yeah, Japan by itself killed thirty million people right, and so they're viewing this as this is a dangerous place. Yes, we need to have control over it. I mean this we can't control. This is kind of like if if North Korea fell 01:00:30 like if we were, if we were, if North Korea's regime falls and we were able to then take control of North Korea, yeah, I think thirty years from now we would do whatever it took to not to make sure back to what it didn't go back to that yeah, and that's what I've said before too, is that I think you know let's play through when you hear people talk about like socialism and communism, which first of all a lot of people in the states are like those are the same. They're not and if you say that you come on, I just think it through, but I'm saying that like 01:01:00 we do have a large group of people who came from countries where yeah they it was a socialist economy. The thing fell apart. They moved here or they fled to a different country and then when that country starts to say hey we want to do these. These are socialist ideas then they go. Oh, you don't want to be part of that. You don't want that at all. No, we would never it be the same thing is like the stage of capitalism that we're at continuing unregulated with these AI companies and stuff could 01:01:24 completely cripple and destroy our economy a couple of decades from now right. It's destroying my stock market portfolio right now, but I'm saying like I'm saying that twenty years from now, let's say I'm not saying this is going to happen, but I'm saying like let's say the capitalism game goes defunct lapses yeah right yeah. Let's say it did yeah and twenty years from now we flee somewhere else and uh then when we're eighty years old, the country that we end up in the young kids start to be like man. We should really 01:01:51 adopt some more capitalistic ideas. Of course we would go. I've been reading. I've been reading Zuckerberg's manifesto saying like we would then in a black and white thinking say no zero part of that. We saw how that ends. That's but you know, I mean that that's a problem. If you think black and white about anything, that's that's what I'm trying to say. You have to be able to think with a little bit of new right. There's there's more. There's complexity to how the world works together and how these countries work together and how economies work and so 01:02:21 you know, I think that there's I'm not trying to you know, I'm not trying to simp for the CIA yeah, you know, but I'm just trying to say a lot of the things there are sketchy stuff. The CIA is done verifiably. We know all the weird stuff of course right, but there's also other things that they do that may appear sketchy, but it might not know sketchy. Yeah, but well, what I can say for sure is here's the guy who wrote the letter. This is a writer and he is sketchy, so he does look like a villain. He's like a scar on his cheek. 01:02:50 he looks I think scowling. I think that's a shut and close case. This guy did it. uh I mean just look at him ladies and gentlemen of the jury. I would like to prevent present evidence number one. Look at him. at just take a gander. Open your eyes and look at this man who is clearly a villain. 01:03:15 anyways, ladies and gentlemen, the jury fiddle off hi thanks for watching this episode of things that learned last night. Please make sure to share it with somebody so that we may grow a grow our listenership. I love that this is how our friendship is. leading and he's desperately trying to hang on just trying to waltz along, but hey, if you like, I told you to say if you like this episode 01:03:42 If you like this episode, check out this episode mk ultra. It's another cia thing that they did that was sketchy. It was weird. That was verifiable sketch. That was not even like there was no soft power involved. There was no it was that was why firmly sketchy, but if you like this episode, you want to see more of it. You can watch next week's episode right now over on patreon shout out to our patron supporters. 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