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00:00 Hey man, what's that dude? Oh wait, I am happy to be here. Good, good. Yeah. Have you ever heard of uh the American Heartland theme park? The American Heartland theme park? Yes. This is that that's a wait. Is this a no, no, no. Yeah. This is a place that doesn't exist. Yeah. This is a rendering. Yeah. This is what they were gonna maybe try to do in Oklahoma. Is that what they were doing? Yes. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And is it, is it not happening? Well, it's not 00:30 Done. I'll you that. I'll tell you it's not done. Yeah. But what park is, you know? What dream is done? You know, like it's never it never is the dream never is. That's kind of what life is. Like no matter how hard you work, no matter how far you go, you're not done yet in the worst way. OK. 00:52 There's an old guy who looks happy and it's because he was rich, but like, you know, he his money, they paid him to leave and he turned it into 100 Pizza Hut franchises. And you know what I did with the money the government gave me? I bought Texas Roadhouse. And that's why I want to die young and sad. And he gets to be old and happy. Things I learned last night. 01:23 so it's not done yet. Yeah, so the American Heartland theme park. um I think let's let's take it to the top of the story. I think yeah, yeah, Explain for the listener who doesn't know what it is. Yeah, in July twenty twenty three, there was this like press. I like this was a cove and idea. I feel like this was something that they were sitting around at home. You know, you know, when people had cove and ideas, people were locked in their houses. They're getting six hundred dollars a week. We were. I was blown in on Texas Roadhouse. I forgot that they did those six hundred a week. 01:54 wasn't it? I mean maybe, maybe you were because you weren't making money from like a job. No, no, no, no. How much was the, was the, what was the extra stimulus on it? I think it was, I don't know. It wasn't every week. I think it was like two $1,200 checks. No, no, no. That was like, but yeah, on unemployment because I was unemployed. Yeah. Unemployment was different. Unemployment was getting, we were getting like 600 bucks a week. That's crazy. I was, and so and you know, if I go back in time, I would have saved a lot more of that money. 02:23 ah But um you know, so this feels like an idea that like they were sitting around doing nothing. Yeah. And they're like guys, yeah. Disney in Oklahoma. I think it's 02:39 Kind of maybe is it in Oklahoma? I don't know where I'm. Yeah. Yeah. So July twenty three. Yeah. A group of developers held this press conference at like a like a hotel like a holiday in conference hall and this press conference they basically unveiled these this master plan for the American Heartland theme park. Yeah. And the plan while this conference first of all the investors look like what you think they would look like by the way. Okay. I'll describe them. 03:08 So they're standing in front of is that like a full model? They built out a whole physical model. Okay, yeah. Yeah. So it's pretty big. And that's what I'm saying. It was like they were like Walt Disney did this. So we did it too. Yeah. No other theme park has built this model like this. And so there are seven people standing, all of them just old white people. And and then there's one guy in the middle who got a spray tan for this event. 03:31 and then the guy next to him is, think representative Billy Long from Missouri. What he looks like. You know who Billy Long is? No, let me even see Missouri's representative Billy Long is from me. He represents my district. Oh, that looks my home district. That does look a lot like him. I look like him. Let me. He looks like a guy who would have owned a rate like a horse racetrack. You know, yeah, pull up a picture of Billy Long. 03:59 because the reason Billy Long's famous. I'll wait to you a picture pulled up of him. I saw him. I looked him up, saw him and compared him to that and I was like this guy might actually be involved. No, no, I know that I don't think I long. I know he's not here. I'll grab him. Hold on. Yeah, grab really long for me. That's not yeah. I'll grab them all grab them. Yeah, 04:25 Okay, I hate crying Billy long. Here's Billy long. Oh frick. I don't know what uh stretched out here. Honestly though, it's what I mean. It didn't. It's not like it did an unjust injustice to him. Here we go. Here's a yeah, that's what he looks like. So Billy long is the representative from like my area in Missouri who is famous for he's an auctioneer. 04:50 Yeah, yeah, that's what it's in on the and but he's in Congress multiple times doing auctioneering done his stupid little auctioneer voice. Yeah, we're like hey, whatever they do and you know go to school for that in that crazy and so this is what he looks like. So anyway, he looks like an oil tycoon. You know, he looks like he looks like the bad guy in robots. He looks like he looks like if they remade Sandlot and then 05:19 there was like a rich company was going to come in and build a theme park on top of that ball. I like that Santa and then he's like the developer. He looks like Doug Dimmadome. He doesn't do that. They don't know of Dodge or whatever. I don't know what did him stone Doug Doug Dimmadome over owner of the Dimsdale Dimmadome. Yes, yeah owner owner of the Dimsdale. Yeah, you know, like the local fat rich guy anyway, the local. Everybody's got one. 05:48 Every town's got a local fat rich dude. So yeah, so that's the crowd. This press conference, they open it with, they had someone uh sing America the Beautiful, obviously. And then they came out and they kind of like introduced everybody and then they introduced their grand plan, which was the American Heartland theme park. Which this park is kind of crazy in like scope. This was gonna be a thousand acre project, which to put it in perspective, 06:18 Disneyland uh Anaheim is 150 acres. So this is unbelievably massive. Wait, how big is Silver Dollar City? Silver Dollar City is 61 acres. So this thing is gigantic. Oh my gosh. ginormous park. And it's located just outside there a bigger theme park? uh Well, I mean, if you take like the Disney World footprint, that's bigger. Well, yeah, but that's five theme Yeah. 06:46 the what I should say, and this is maybe a little misleading. So this project was outside the small town of Vanita, Oklahoma. Yeah. And so if we look at that, know where Vanita is. I'll show you is Vanita, Oklahoma. I do know where I'm not joking. I know where it is because it's on the forty four corridor there. Yeah. So this is about an hour north of Tulsa just up I forty four found this out just a second ago when I was like, I didn't know this. Vanita is this that the the travel stop. Yeah. The yeah. But the McDonald's that goes to the highway, it's not a McDonald's anymore, but 07:16 Yeah, it's a common go. Well, it's a maverick. Things are changing. There's a subway up there. I stop with this quite a bit. Yeah, this place is cool. Cool is yeah, this place is cool. Okay, uh but if you look so Vanita is a small town and then I forty four is where that little Wal-Mart or not Wal-Mart McDonald's is yeah this SMG standard materials group right around this is where they bought the plot line and you can actually see the time of this satellite image. 07:46 See that little square like of concrete across from that? Like right across from the SMG materials group? is... You mean like down or... Straight across the street. Oh, okay, okay, okay. That is like a construction parking lot that they built. So this the time of this photograph was when they were starting. They were starting to build it. So this is like the footprint of it. So you can actually see this. Oh, wow. And so the idea was there was going to be directly across the street from that quarry, the three ponies. It's still going to exist, by the way. Yeah, yeah, 100 percent. 08:14 and so they bought these two plots of land here. One is the three ponies RV park and so it was going to be a massive important again, cove, an idea and a lot of people were in RVs. We should make an RV park. Yeah, actually that's you know, you know people. Okay, I'm not going to talk about about RV people. My answer RV people, they have a they have a pickup truck. Oh yeah, I have an RV and they I mean that's what they had. So they spend their summer they 08:42 They can send us magnets. around in the RVs. Yeah. I mean, it sounds fun to just RV around the country. Like, sounds like It sounds fun. It's one of those things where it's like, I feel like it'd be a good little weekend. I don't know that I would make that my personality, you know? But I can see why people, some people do. It's fine. I it would be awesome. Like if you didn't have kids, if you were like, if you're like retirement age, get an RV. And if you worked remote, it would be so clutch to just go drive somewhere, hang out for like a week. 09:09 work there sounds like you want to do fan somewhere else work that yeah. It sounds great anyways, so the RV Park was going to be is going to take up three hundred fifty acres of the like pro yeah, and so that was going to feature seven hundred fifty RV spaces and three hundred cabins to stay at. They were also going to have a three hundred room four star hotel and resort water park thing. Okay, that was going to be if we pull this back up. That's where the three pines is 09:37 the three ponies is just the RV park in the cabins. And so over on this other plot underneath the quarry was going to have the hotel and then the park itself. So the park itself, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Ends up only taking up a hundred and twenty five acres, which is still twice the size of, so yeah, which is about the size of, Disneyland and I got you. So the park itself is, is a good size park, but it's not, this is more for RV enthusiasts. Well, if they more for really need a 10:07 way to get people there because the closest international airport is an hour away, so they're like we need somewhere for these people to stay right. So they were building this RV park there and so they were probably trying to cut the distance between Joplin and Tulsa. I mean because Vanita is about forty five minutes, Joplin is a major Metroplex. It is glad we're on the same page and so they this this park was everyone makes fun of Joplin and I'll tell you what they hate that 10:37 They do not like that. Yeah. So I think anybody would hate getting made fun of. Yeah. Nobody's like, I'm glad you're making fun of me right now. I know some people are like, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, love. Small towns are like small towns are like, you know, we exist. That's okay. Yeah. Joplin is always like the ugly step sister of Springfield. Yeah, it's pretty, you know, ugly steps sifter of literally of everywhere else. Yeah. And so, ah 11:02 no, like Joplin. So like, you know, I was on staff at a church in Joplin. Yeah. And that was a big struggle that we had. Yeah. It was, you know, post like their post tornado 2011. Yep. Tornado happens. Uh, and then all this attention's on Joplin. Suddenly like the news is talking about Joplin all the time. Uh, there's a bunch of money flooding in extreme home makeovers doing several different projects in Joplin, right? Like it's a, it's a, know, and then one day all those people just left and then Joplin was just like back to being 11:32 Joplin yeah, and so when we came in to launch the new campus of our church, there was you know not explicitly said, but you could feel like the you know how long you guys gonna be here. Yeah, we don't really yeah, that was the vibe. It felt it felt a little weird anyway, but you also kept making fun of them. So they were like we also every week we're like hey guys, welcome to yeah. 11:56 Well, just drive forty five well field. I don't know why you're here two hours the Tulsa. What's wrong with you? Why you here? Why are you here? I'm an hour. It's like an hour an hour to Tulsa. Why are you here? So and then they they outline the park. The park itself was going to be six like themed lands um and each land would would have like an anchor ride. That'd be like this big grand. What are the six themes? So there's liberty freedom of speech area. 12:25 freedom and it's area. They just let you do. They let you say say whatever you want here. So Liberty Village is like a classic Americana downtown hometown USA area. This is what I love about theme parks too, is that we're not willing to do this in our actual cities. We're just going to create theme parks and let you have a walkable town that you're at the 12:46 pay a lot of money to a lot of experience. Yeah, yeah, and then you're like and oh you miss what I didn't have forty mile an hour cars. We're going to hit. Did you did you miss when crosswalks were there? Did you miss when all of your needs were kind of like all in the same kind of area and general stores exist? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's let's play pretend park. Let's I love the theme parks are just playing town. You know, yeah, that's exactly what's happening. Yeah, 13:12 uh And then and then they were going to have so here's an aerial shot of it. So there's Liberty Village. I mean a wild looking place. Yeah. And then they would have the Great Plains which I don't know which one in here is actually the Great Plains. I'm kind of looking around to figure it out. I can't tell. But the Great Plains is exactly what it sounds like. They would have like it. They almost had like museums and exhibits of like animals and things like that. I like Great Plains themed right. Be that friary up here then probably maybe. Yeah it could be. They also had Bayou Bay which is this like 13:42 Swampy Louisiana type vibe. Swampy big, big Timber Falls, which Big Timber Falls sounds pretty sick. It had like this big, uh, call this like a timber water coaster. I don't know what the Alpine coaster. Yeah. Anyways, so big, a big artificial mountain with a water ride in it. And this was supposed to be like Pacific Northwest. Um, and then they would have, uh, Stony Point Harbor, which was like, like, um, uh, the Northeast. 14:09 and then they were going to have Electropolis, which is a little bit of a break from the vibe. But this was supposed to be like an amalgamation of all the world's fairs. And so there would be all these like crazy. So let me just run them back again. Let me just run them back again. Name them again. You had Liberty Village, Main Street, Great Plains, Frontierland Bayou Bay. It's also in like the Frontierland area. Yeah. The Tiano's Bayou. 14:38 Big Timber Falls, which would be in. I would call that adventure land, but sure Stony Point Harbor. Well, Big Timber Falls is yeah Stony Point Harbor Matterhorn Electropolis Tomorrow. They were like what if we just slightly changed Disney's I P just a little bit uh and so not even a lot either like not even a lot just like 15:06 yeah. What do we call tomorrow and you know we can't yeah really Billy long. We can't do that. can't do that and so and then there's a train that goes around the whole park on the park. Yeah, that's a revolutionary idea. No one's ever thought of that and then at uh Electropolis that's on the left there. You can see the tower. There's a big like that's a big Tesla tower, but it's one of those drop rides big Tesla tower. No, a Tesla tower is no 15:34 That's what Tesla's famous for. Well, Tesla's famous for a lot of things, but one of the things he did is he built this really big, I always mix up, I think he was AC power. He was either AC or DC, Edison was the opposite, and Edison killed him and got everyone to use his stuff. But what was crazy about his tower- Edison did what? Killed Tesla. And what was crazy about Tesla's towers is, in theory, what he was trying to do was wireless power. So he'd build these big towers that were supposed to broadcast 16:04 energy wirelessly, which sounds awesome insane. Sounds awesome. ah I don't know if it were. If theoretically it worked and I heard about a technology they're trying to do where they're going to put satellites up there and you know up there above the flat earth. They're going to put satellites up there, but they're gonna they're going to collect solar. Oh, I know exactly what you're talking about via satellite and then figure out how to shoot that 16:33 So I know exactly what I know exactly what you're talking about. Oh great company. You you rent sunlight and no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no I saw that like where it's like you can just you can be like I need some sunlight. It's a mirror that just shoots sunlight to wherever you're at right now. Yeah. So if you're get your neighbors for you know, the idea is if you're running a farm, you can give it sunlight overnight if the daytime sunlight wasn't enough or if you have solar farm. 17:00 then you rent this and then it just has a satellite that goes and tilts the the mirror to you. So then you just have this acre of sunlight in the middle of the night. Yeah. And it's actual sunlight because it's a mirror. It's insane. I mean like but here's what I'm OK. That's a different idea than what I was hearing. I was hearing they were going to have like a satellite that collects the power solar and OK. OK. OK. And then they can convert that to a signal that they could send that to Earth like 17:28 really through satellite send energy so them. We would have satellite energy gathers up there instead of trying to mirror it down to our solar panels here. Interesting. I don't understand. They figure out how to do that or it like a slow figure out how to do that. I mean the conspiracy theorists will tell you yes and that's why Edison killed them right because Edison one. It's like Stanley Myers water car. Yeah, yeah. Edison was making too much money off power lines and sure test. His idea was kind of you know. I don't know what I don't know the full story. This is what I studied 17:58 Okay, but anyway, so they have a Tesla Tower. They have a Tesla Tower. That's also a Tower of Doom. So it's like it doubles. Sure. And so also a ride that they made up. Nobody else has ever done this before. What if we what if we did like a a it drops, you know? Oh, good idea. yeah, that's a good idea. So this concept, they unveiled the whole concept. They tell you all about what they're going to do. They introduced their team. This is actually really interesting. This all go 18:27 kind of backwards through this list. The first guy I'll show you, this guy is not an investor. He's like an executive in the project. His name is Steven Hendrick and he ah is a significant, like I guess legitimacy person on tab on the team because he is a former Disney Imagineering executive. So he actually built Disney World. Of course. Or I should say one of the people who helped build the right. Well, at least they got somebody involved. What do you mean by that? 18:58 I mean they're ripping off all the ideas from dizzy. The least they could do is get somebody who actually actually knows. Yeah, that's fair. You know and I don't care. By the way, I don't care about rip offs by the way. You know, I don't care at all. This whole podcast is a rip off of Sam Manila or whatever. That guy's YouTube channels never Sam and they'll whatever Sam O'neill or whatever that YouTube. Oh, so many of our topics we do take. I hate we don't take top. This is what I hate is it's wild. 19:26 because we just cover stuff that happens. That's what I say. So like people be like, yeah, you got this from salmon. No, I got this from the happening. I got this with the thing that happened. I'm pretty sure they did too. Yeah, this is a thing that happened. He didn't make that up. He didn't do that. You know yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 19:53 Hey, thanks for listening to this episode of things. I learned last night. If you like this show, we would love to see in our Patreon. It's a great way to financially support the show. We don't make money from this. It just helps us to pay the people who do make money from this. Like Alex and Robert, her editor and maybe one day, one day me and Tim, maybe one day, know, but only if you join, only if you join, we can't wait. We can't get paid until you pay. Can't feed Tim's kid until you join. He's so 20:35 So he was kind of a big legitimacy add to the right right right, because he's an imagineer. He's an imagineer. They sat next to it. I don't know if they want me to tell you this. I sat next to a person who worked for Disney and I don't know if he knows that I know this. They're not allowed to talk about it. Well, he was on his tablet and he was like he was he was on frame I O yeah and giving feedback on you know it was the outline of the the Florida Castle. 21:00 and they're doing the light projector stuff. Oh yeah, the little white does. And so he was like circling like this dinosaur needs to be bigger this, know, that's and like and I was just, you know, I was looking at his screen and I don't care. You were like, you're like, hey, I think the dinosaur should be small straight up. in the middle, I was doing the whole thing where I was like 21:19 like dinosaur and then if he caught me, I pretend to be asleep. You're like dinosaur should be bigger actually, but I don't and then I he would be working on it. I go much dinosaur should be much and then I took everything I saw there and immediately emailed American Heartland and I was like do I have a show for you? What if we did a light projector show on the Tesla Tower? Maybe put some dinosaurs in there, maybe some dinosaurs, but they should be bigger. Whatever you're bigger. Dinosaur. No, it was cool to It was cool. Yeah, that happening 21:48 and so they they introduced him also Disney bottom of Delta comfort plus seat, not first class and they have the money for it and I was a little. I was offended on his behalf. Yeah, I was like you shouldn't be sitting next to me. You should be with the pores. Yeah, you should be with the moderately on poor. You should be with the less a little less pores. The people who are a little less. Don't give them a private jet. Just circling. know this guy does for a living is circle nine as a word. Yeah, yeah, I just 22:24 I don't think we got to keep going. You can give a thought. You're right. Yeah, okay, so I felt like I got a sputtered out and I can see you trying to be like I got. got one more. I can do it. I can figure out another thing. No, I just let it go. It's good. That's good. I was gonna do like a thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so they they introduced this dinosaur. I kept going with it. Okay, keep going. This having Steve on the project 22:52 was a big legitimacy, but sure then they introduced their engineering team that they hired for it was the same team that worked on six flag parks. Oh, so another legit, yeah, like legit people and then they introduced. uh Let me see. Well, we'll go at this. A guy by the name of Larry, will height Larry is a former pastor from Branson, Missouri, yeah, who left his practice as practice, who left his church, left his church and he was at. I know his church. He was that, go ahead 23:21 he left his church to become. I guess like the director of the mansion in Branson, which is a theater in in Branson. This is I'm realizing now that I have this is float flow and that's interesting that you did that 23:39 but pull up the mansion because the mansion does the despicable me thing. Okay, I don't know what you'll know. Exactly what I mean when you see it. I'm pretty sure the mansions where I'm thinking of that does that. I think maybe it's the Andy Williams theater that is at the mansion. I think I know what you I think you know what I'm saying. I've seen it before and now that you're saying that I think I know what you mean. Yeah, I think the mansion and I could be wrong. Maybe you are now, but I think the mansion is the biggest theater in Branson. I I believe so. 24:07 trying to find like a site and sound is probably bigger right. I don't know. I mean I have a picture of the interior. You want to see it. No, I want to see the exterior. I'm trying to get one out of them are strategic. I'll tell you what because the building looks ugly. All right. Well, I couldn't find it. There's a bill. There's one of the theaters in. think it, I think it used to be the mansion at least then I can find the extra that it had like the exterior. The building was painted like the blue sky 24:36 to make it seem like but it never it never looked like it looked the same. It never looked like it was the sky. You could tell. Oh, they're trying to trick you into thinking you're looking at the sky there because they all have these big facades. Here's the mansion. I think that back white that they back like the what might call it Alex the 24:58 What do you like whole life system on the whole fly system? That's they keep all their fly. think that you ever notice you go to the theater. There's no shut eyes in the so I think that it's the fly system. I'm going to do the comedy on the part. There's no fly, but they maybe you can find on a way back, but they that back area of the theater, they used to have it painted blue, so it just looked like the front mansion part. That makes sense, and they tried to put clouds on it to be like it's their sky. Yeah, 25:26 Branson is or or maybe this photo is what I'm thinking of, but it just looks like the sky. Maybe maybe that whole thing is just the back of the building. No, they I remember as a kid always being like that does not. That doesn't look like this guy. Do they know that doesn't look like this guy? I want to go rig. It looks like Andy's room in Toy Story. Yeah, you know, I'm talking about where it's like that's a wall. That's that's fake. So this is this is Will Hyde, Larry Will Hyde. Yeah, this is him inside the theater. 25:54 Yeah, and he left his job at the church as a pastor to run this theater. He doesn't know he runs the theater. He's like the director of the theater. He's done it for like twenty years and then there's a guy by the name of Richard Slanskis. uh He is like an outside. He's an executive producer on the project Slanskis and he has experience and and 26:18 the theme park industry look at him do starting. I'm not even like he's he's the guy who's like his hair is not that color. You can literally see the line of the die. See I'm talking about you can see it zoom in on that. Can you zoom in on that? See me on this, but yeah you can't zoom in you can't out a crop in a Robert can Robert on Robert. You know what I'm talking about. You can see the line of where he died his hair this color 26:45 and it looks like he does it with a sharpie yeah and so and this is this is slans kiss yeah. If he turned out to be a nice guy, I apologize, but uh you know it, you know yeah yeah. So this is lanskis he has experience in the theme park industry yeah and so he came in to help with that. What's his experience operation city? No, he has experience in parks that ah never opened uh 27:13 But they didn't talk about that at this press conference. And then there is a guy by the name of Gene Bicknell. Gene Bicknell is the financial provider for this company. What do think he did based on this image? He's a farmer. about this image? this give you any more ideas? Is he a farmer? 27:35 No, he actually owned over a hundred pizza franchises. Yeah, dude, he's an old guy who looks happy and it's because he was rich, but like, know, yeah, he, he was, he grew up actually in uh what's it called? Pitcher Oklahoma. Is that right? Is that what's called picture? No pitcher pitcher. Let me, let me, I doesn't matter. He grew up in Oklahoma. No, it does matter because I want to talk about it. 28:03 This is a town that we've never I've always wanted to do an episode about it, um but it's there's not really enough content, but picture it's north and imagine that there would be it's north of Miami and this town is really I'm not okay. Whatever is it really yeah. So they pronounce it. No, they do not in Oklahoma, Miami. That's how they pronounce it. Oh my God, that makes me unreasonably mad. Okay, anyways, uh picture is an interesting town because I make you man. 28:32 Because it's dumb. Because it's dumb. 28:37 Do you know why I'm baiting him right now? Oh, is that not real? No, they're just you know, lot of the towns in Oklahoma are named after Indian. Oh my and so is that now, so now you're looking at this stuff being like that's stupid and dumb. I just wanted to bait you a white guy into being like that. So that was fun. You're the worst picture. Pitcher was like a turn of the century town that 29:08 I guess was probably a company town uh and there it's just covered in mines. And so I'm going to I'm throwing some screenshots in so you can see this. And in I don't remember exactly when but the collapse all the mines started leaking uh toxins into the water supply. so it actually the state of Oklahoma started paying people to leave because it was too dangerous to live in and picture Oklahoma anymore. 29:36 and so he grew up in this town and so today he took his money. They paid him to leave and he turned it into one hundred pizza hut franchises and you know what I did with the money the government gave me. bought Texas Roadhouse and that's why I want to die young and sad and he gets to be old and happy. I look how happy he is so picture Oklahoma here it is from far away. So those are all the minds. It was just oh wow in minds yeah and as we zoom in 30:06 this town. There are, think last I heard, which was about a decade ago, there's I think less than ten holdouts who still live here, but the whole town, if we zoom in close, like it is just decrepit, like everything's run down. It's yeah, like all the all those houses are just are just like decrepit falling apart abandoned town. Yeah, and it's a big town. It's kind of crazy. I've always wanted to go anyways. I wanted to do an episode about it, but there's not enough to cover it. It's a till and road trip. 30:35 Yeah, we can add it to the red shirt, but he grew up when your kid finally goes off to college or whatever. Your kid's not going to whenever your kid 30:47 I've I've met him. He's not he's not very smart right now. There's no way there's no way he's getting to college. So he grew up in pitcher Oklahoma, which is not far from okay, Anita and he went to the war and then he came back and and when he came back he bought his first pizza franchise because that was something you could do with a war salary back then and then went from there and built. 31:14 built his empire sure and became a billionaire and so he's a very wealthy man. He owns the mansion and so him okay, I work together for the three horses is a reference to this. I so that's actually probably true. I've never seen someone say that, but you're probably right. Actually, yes, the three ponies ponies. Yeah, I three I gear. Yeah, it's yeah interesting. I've never noticed that, but yeah, nobody said I wonder if there's a significance to those out front of the mansion, but anyway, he just likes ponies. I guess yeah, 31:44 So they unveiled this whole team, they unveiled the plans, they unveiled the uh model of it and they have smoke come out and there's music, really dramatic reveal. And then at the end, the end of it, Will Height leaves and they close the whole presentation and he just does this, it's not a mic drop because it's a podium with a mic, but he tries to do a mic drop so he just opens his hands out like this and backs off stage. 32:13 and then like they play wait, Larry, the older guy like got Larry, but the Larry old past Larry will high. um He's just like he's like and that's the American Heartland. He's just like backs up state and I'm not exaggerating when I say they played the main theme from the nineteen ninety six movie Independence Day. What is the confetti? What's the theme from independent? It's not 32:41 hype. It's like a it's like a score like it's like yeah, it's not. ah I think what I genuinely think what happened is their creative team was like we need another like American song. They're like what's an independent like they found this. It's called Independence Day. 33:05 And like, that's the sun. didn't know that it's that's guess. No one wanted to look even a little bit into the movie. And so ah the thing about this, though, is there immediately was a lot of questions because this is like a two billion dollar project. And they claimed this was in what did I say? July twenty twenty three. And they claimed that they were going to have all of this open by the end of twenty twenty six. 33:33 which is a preposterous timeline. Right. All right. They said by the end of twenty twenty five, three ponies was going to open and then shortly after that, the park would open as well, which is insane. They also the location doesn't make any sense. It's a gigantic theme park. Yeah, they estimated they would have four point nine million visitors a year, which is barely less than the entire population of Oklahoma. Also, and this is really important for you to understand about that. 33:59 a stretch of forty four. It's a toll road with zero exits. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there are no exits. Yeah, like that gas station is your last chance to get off the road before you go an eighty mile strip all the way to Tulsa with no because it's all reservation right. Yeah, that whole that whole plot. Yeah, yeah, which is also anyways they they and so the airport's an hour away before they would have built the. mean to be fair like so Disneyland is pretty. I mean 34:28 it when and when when they were buying all the land in Florida. There was nothing. Well, that was the argument that they made. The argument was that there was some development will happen around this. Yeah, there was a there was some people who raised these concerns and Steve the Disney guy was like, yeah, nothing was in Orlando before Disney and now Orlando is a vacation hub right and so he's like, this is what we're going to do to the need of Oklahoma before they would have built this part. You know, before they would have built this park, the only 34:57 like nearby hotel was in Veneta. It was a holiday and express. That was it. That was all that that could support. So but they would. And this is interesting. I haven't mentioned this in the top left corner. You can see the hotel and the hotel is actually in the park. Right. You can't get to this hotel without going through the park, which is an interesting design. I'm sure they would have an interesting other side. I don't know. That's not what they said. That's what they said. What they said is like the idea is like you're a part of the park, like you're staying in the park, kind of like the Bass Pro shops. 35:26 but if Bass Pro Shops was a hundred twenty five acre kind of like the best, I don't think it's kind of like that. No, but like you know Disney California Venture has the the Grand California. Yeah. And yeah, you can go either. But this is I think this is I think the idea is you're in the park. Well, that won't work. Yeah. I said so ah the other the other big issue with this is they said is going to be this year round park, but it's like in Oklahoma, Oklahoma, which this area is also a floodplain. 35:55 and then yeah, it snows in the winter and then there's a pretty big deal that happens in that area quite a bit. What is it? 36:09 tornado. Yeah, yeah. It's like it's like smack. This is gonna get destroyed by tornado. It's big time tornado land, which part of the experience honestly, like you go to the Great Plains. is a ride that they have that like they'll just slingshot you into a tornado. That's like a really fun. Yeah, he doesn't have that. You could only buy it like there has to be a tornado happening like so like you got to wait for one. It's rare. It's a 36:35 but it's a special. That's what makes it more valuable. Yeah, it's a special. We'll pay the money for it and so they they had this whole this whole event. Months later they had the ground breaking ceremony. So the whole team, I mean it is like prime tornado spot too. That's crazy. It couldn't be more. It could not be more tornado alley. Yeah and so 36:58 a few months later they had this groundbreaking. I love groundbreaking. Oh it's so goofy. It's so dumb. They all put on the hard hats and you're like, is that shovel going to fall out of your head? 37:10 they all wear the hard hats for the stuff except for like two guys who were you know the Disney guy was like I'm just going to hold on to it and then the freaking undertaker on the end down here was like no, I'm not wearing that. I got a trench coat and a cowboy hat. They're like golden shovel and I love the Pizza Hut guy who was like I'm not taking this ball cap off. I'll just float the hard hat above it and there's two. It's too big. You got to get an odd job hard hat job hard hats 37:39 And so they had this ceremony, they had the gold shop. Yeah, they do all their logos on it. And there's like local politicians. Everybody's excited. And this was like a huge deal for the town. Like Veneta. Yeah, there's nothing else there. Veneto was stoked. A bunch of the people who had land around it were selling land. Locals were buying up plots of land, hoping like as an investment property. Right. Local restaurants were taking out loans to like expand the restaurant to be capable of like serving a larger population. This was like a huge boost for the local economy. 38:08 And so then the construction companies came in. They put up this cool sign that said the park is coming soon. And then they... said it's a cool sign? And then they built this. This is a gravel parking lot. Construction, yeah. Which is for construction. Yeah. And they put in a construction office and prepared to begin building construction here. And then nothing happened for over a year. And there was... 38:37 A lot of, I don't want to say uproar. Unrest. Unrest is a good word. A lot of the local officials were like, hey, what's going on? What gives? Like there was this big promise and nothing's happening. And so they had this like local town hall where it was like, you guys got to tell us what you're doing. And they showed by the town hall and Steve comes in and he says, yeah, I know he said we were going to make more broaders by now, but we haven't. And I really, I got to apologize. That's my fault because I went to our engineers and I told them, Hey, we need to. 39:08 Re-consolidate some things and it changed the plans and it's slowing us down. It's got to set back a few months, but like we're going to be able to move forward. No problem. This is a Ponzi scheme. 39:19 And so so he kind of bides their time. He's kind of bides their time a little bit with the local city council. The city council seems a little frustrated, but they're like, OK, whatever. There is some like state and city investment that's going on in this as well. And if I need a city council there, mean, there are no one to scoff at their sharks. Yeah. Yeah. They rode their horses into the meeting. There are three ponies. Yeah. And they sit around a circle and they go. 39:49 What are we gonna do about this boys? You know, I hate that. That is where you do it. I said it like that. now it's like, that's what I hate, but I hate that. It's like, making it look like I that. What you talking about? They all, they drove out in the back of their, their Ford pickup trucks. They put the tailgate down. They cracked up with some keystone lights. 40:14 and they sat on the back of the Ford pickup and they were like, what are we going to do about this? There's no city council hall. It's just like I'm saying they all meet in that in that construction pad and they sit there and they go well skies turning green. 40:32 you better. I better get under our trucks better. Hi, yeah, not go home. Let's not go home. Let's let's you know, it's too late for that. Let's crawl underneath our trucks. That's right. That's what they say you need to do. First of all, that's not what they say you should do. You clearly 40:48 he grew up in Colorado. All right, what you're supposed to do is find a ditch. You got to find a ditch and a ditch and pray honestly. That's why you should not get under a vehicle. That is not what you should be doing. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you don't do that. Don't do that right. Get under something bigger like a semi yeah. 41:09 so and then a few months later, would I fit on? I would not fit underneath my car. You want to try it? Oh, your car's not here. Yeah, I can you fit under your car. I can fit under mine because you're a weak little small little boy. Was that all? Was that all that all? Look how weak and lame he is dude. He can't even gather his breath. 41:35 a tiny week as long I whatever so like a few months later oh 41:52 Oh boy, am I sick? I sure do need Tim stones. Get well quick trick. And what is it? It's simply chug an entire gallon of orange juice. Wow. I forgot. And then this shirt reminded me, I'm so glad that I have this shirt as a public service announcement, a public health service to other people around me. Do your part. Get this shirt. 42:21 shop.tilland.com 42:29 So once later it is the news that the construction companies have put out liens on the organization because they haven't got paid yet and so that's why they haven't been doing anything is because they were not getting paid. Yeah and so now it starts to become a question of like what's going on and so the lean sits few months go by or I should say over a year goes by. So now we're two years away from the gold shovels. Yes. Yeah and so 42:57 What year is this now? is 2000, this is 2025? Yeah, so I guess it would be, so let me get the dates right. So October 30th, 2023 was the groundbreaking ceremony. then in May 2024, as those liens came out that those liens were up against the company. And in, let me see the date, July 2025, a lawsuit is filed in Oklahoma federal court, alleging 43:27 Rico violations, allegeding alleged, allegeding or he go violations, fraud and intentional infliction of emotional distress from Jean Bicknell against his two partners. Yeah, this first photo he did look a little bit like he was a cutthroat kind of guy. The second photo he looks so much happier where he's just like, ah, yeah, so this is a grandpa. This is a suit first photo. He looks a little bit more. Yeah, he looks like he looks like he's like 43:56 Yeah, he looks like get out of my before I pumped your guts full of lead. Okay, but he's he is suing. Oh, he's suing for emotional distress. He is suing Larry. Oh hi, no, no, he's a good guy. We like him and what did I say this guy was a close Richard Salinas Richard Salanskas and I said he was sketchy on site. So I said as soon as I saw that guy, I was like this guy emotionally distresses the elderly and 44:22 we get these court documents. Didn't he just let me say that these court this guy emotionally distresses the elderly. We get these court documents and what we find out from the court documents are they is it over is over the course of a few years going back to about twenty twenty one. ah No I'm Lancer and will height have been emailing gene Bicknell. Oh no from an account from an email account pretending to be now wait for it. 44:52 God and telling him telling gene that God wants him to build this park. Oh, and telling them him that because everything that he's all the wealth he's amassed is a gift from God. He needs to empty the storehouse and give it to the next generation. Almighty God at gmail.com. 45:15 oh my and so and this there what's that? What's the term for that uh pig butchering there? Oh, fattening the pig. Yeah, they're doing that to this guy. Yeah, so they spent years building them up to convince him that God wants to hold on. on. Oh no. Oh yeah, that's why you weren't laughing at my little bit. 45:41 Yeah, I was joking, but they were doing they were using an old guy. Yeah. So so here's what happened. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait. Okay. Yeah. Tell us what happened. Here's what happened. Oh my gosh. So a little bit about Rick. I feel so bad. This guy sucks. I you know what? No, no. Zoom in again. Robert show us his sharpie hair. 46:05 This guy abuses old people. This guy stinks. What a crazy plan. So these two start emailing this Oklahoma billionaire pretending to be God. Yes. And they're like, hey, God's telling you to invest all your money into this theme park. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's exactly what's happening. And so let me take it back a little bit to tell you a little bit about Rick. Rick. Oh, Sorry. Let me take a second to process. I'm hot, dude. It's crazy. So Rick. 46:33 I don't know if you hold by the way. I don't know if you see this bus behind him, but it says the dream vision company, the dream vision company looks and also to be clear, ripped off the paramount logo and dream vision a little over decade before this had proposed a series of parks in Texas and Alabama that the renderings are not as great. 46:57 I actually love this art style like I would I would love to have because they feels like a 90s story. But well they sell like these paintings of Disney and I'm not a Disney adult but like those I mean like we like it but like those are the things that I would allow there's there's lines that I draw. I don't want a bunch of like we have Disney mugs coffee mugs whatever yeah. 47:20 my wife came home with a with a welcome at one time. That's when I was like to that's advertising the neighbors. Yeah, we can't have other people see it. Yeah, as long as you like it quiet. This art style like I like the original layout of Disneyland. Actually, I love I like that the bar Gatsby is opening a theme park in Nashville. He's reopening like the opera land kind of trying to do the night land stuff and it's a fun like vision. Yeah, and so I like this like watercolor painting thing. 47:49 So this concept is there would be a land that was kind of like Louisiana like a bayou. There'd be like a Pacific Northwest land. There'd be like a new land. There'd be like an old school and they were proposing this for where. So this was going to be a series of parks. And it was this idea there's going to be one in Texas and one in Alabama. And in Alabama they actually planned it. So I think this is the Texas one. They've got like some I don't know what that is like a cast or something in the middle. Yeah. 48:14 But in Alabama, you're spending a lot of time on this now, but you've just told me they're abusing this old guy. And I really want to get to that part of centerpiece. The centerpiece of this park was going to be an artificial mountain that was going to be a ski resort in Alabama. And they were going to have artificial snow. You could go skiing. Sure. That'll work. And so long story short, they had proposed this whole thing, did the did the whole presentation, whatever. And then a couple of years into the project, it fell apart. And his business partner went to prison for 10 years, federal prison for securities fraud. He got out of it. 48:42 Cause he was like, I was just creative director. wasn't a part of any of like the financial side of this. didn't run that. And so all of that goes down a couple of years later, he meets Larry Wilhite. Larry has been for 20 years working with gene, a great relationship. Everything gene being gene is, is it the big now? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. He's been working with him running this theater. 49:07 Oh, that's right, because Jean owns the mansion. That's right. And going into 2020, they had dreams together of turning the theater into like a TV and film and animation studio. is the monster. uh So they had the dreams of turning this theater into a film. I want to physically fight these people. And 2020 rolled around. They had invested a lot of money to build this and it fell apart in 2020 because they didn't have the cash to float this dream of the TV studio, the film studio. And so that like new branch fell apart. 49:36 and failed and it was kind of like this big hit to both Larry and Jean. Like they were pretty upset that they couldn't pull that off. And so this is terrible. This makes me so mad. So Rick meets Larry and together they come up with this scheme. Yeah. They basically are like hey like Rick's like Larry he trusts you. You've been working together forever. Introduce him to me like let's let's like build this concept. And so at the time Jean I mean we need to remember we saw this picture. Jean is a shrewd businessman. Yeah. And so he meets 50:05 Larry recommends him, but that's not enough. Like he meets Rick and he's like, let see. old is Gene do we know? ah He is at the time of this. I know what he was in 25. So at the time of this, he would have been 88. 50:19 What do you get out like that for? Because I feel like I know where the story goes. um I know what he was. He would have been. He was 88. Yeah. And so Rick meets meets Jean. They have a business meeting and and Rick paints the picture of what he wants to do. Jean's interested. But Jean's like I got to know more about what you're trying to do here. Yeah. I got to know more about you. And so I said do you have any references I can I can speak to? And so he's like sure. And so he sends him 50:47 uh the email of a reference, someone he's worked with. Gene reaches out to the email. God. Gene reaches No, just ask this guy. He knows everything. He knows everything. So he gives him the email and it's supposedly some guy who works at Disney that he's done a bunch of projects with. Gene reaches out, emails him, uh but it's just one of Rick's email accounts. Yeah. And Rick fakes this whole like letter of recommendation. And what's really crazy about this is this came up in this case. 51:16 ah The reason we knew it was Rick's account is because Rick from all of his personal emails, he starts the body of the email by handwriting out from him to whoever he's writing to. And then he does the body because the email doesn't already have that from and to line. He like hand writes a from and to line in the body. He puts that in all of his emails and all of his emails because he's kind of Yeah, because he's weird and dumb. Yeah. Yeah. And so because he did that, 51:42 they could trace the other emails back to him because from who does this God to gene is that in the emails? Yeah, that's exactly what he was doing. No, do we have any of the God emails? I don't have any of the emails. It's all in like this is an active case, so I don't have any of the emails, but in the emails, easy, really holy crap and so so they propose this. When did this all break? What is this? The the the last year, July twenty, twenty five, the lawsuit was filed while I twenty, twenty five. 52:12 I can't wait for this documentary. so so Rick basically establishes the legitimacy with him. They want to work together, but nothing gets kind of set in stone. Yeah. And over the course of a couple of years, God emails Jean and God basically convinces Jean that that he needs to invest 100 percent of his wealth into this project. And furthermore, he God God 52:41 in air quotes, convinces Gene of what he calls the triune concept. And he says, just like the Trinity, like none of these things work without a triune engagement. And so these emails convince Bicknell that even though Solanus and Wilhite weren't putting up any financial risk in this, they should be 33 and a third partners with him. And so they are immediately getting to share in what if went through would be a multi-billion dollar. 53:11 concept ah and so oh my gosh man. So they move forward with this ah and they begin building building the project. This is the stuff that you find out your parents have done by the way, like your parents get to like, you know, it's like it's one of jeans kids who's just like I'm sure we'll get to that, but it's like you just find out that your dad is like emailing God and you're like wait what yeah and then like all of your inheritance is gone. Yeah. So what happened? 53:40 Oh my gosh. I feel like that tight in my chest. They start building this project. Also my body. And he, from the very beginning, he just started wiring the company millions of dollars at a time. Four million, six million, seven million here, like just millions of dollars. For the contracts. For the contracts, yeah. And from what he understands. And over the course of a year of the project, he wires $48 million into this company. Oh no. And he starts running out of money. And so he's emailing them because 54:10 He's like, hey, I actually defaulted on my bank account. I don't have any more cash. And he's like, I don't have any more cash. So I had to take out a personal loan to continue to fund this. So he took out a big personal loan to fund his life and to continue to fund the project. And what they had found out is Gene was a billionaire, but he only had 60 million in like what assets left because he is old and he recently established a trust to pass on to his heirs. 54:37 where all the money was tied up in this irrevocable trust. And the way irrevocable trusts work is they're irrevocable. No one can change them except for the person who made it. And so Gene's the only person who has control over this trust. So Gene starts getting these emails. So this is the middle of this project. This is when they're meeting with the county council. So this is 2023, 2024. Yeah, they're meeting with county council. They've got liens on the business because they're not paying. And the county council is like, gives? And they're like, we're 55:06 We're just that we made some changes to plan. It's not working right because because now he's running slow on now. He doesn't have cash Yeah, so now he needs to change his trust. Yes, is this when did he start getting emails from God? So he got emails from God like in 2021 and so it was like okay big build up to this point and then this point he gets an email from an account called sister Katherine nine on nine and this is a fake none that right of course and this none reaches out and it's like hey we have been an intercessor Katherine none on none 55:34 and so this this none reaches out and it's not a non. It's it's and the nun reaches out and it's crazy. It's not yeah. We all knew that it's not a nun. uh Yeah, we're all on. We're on the same page and he gets the email from his nun is not a nun. Go, keep going and so the nun is like hey, we've been in who's not a nun. By the way, it's right in case you're dumb and you're not following the story. 56:03 She's like, hey, me and all my sisters at, I think they called it Agape Abbey, we've been participating in an intercessory prayer for you. And we feel like that God has a message that he wants us to give you. And over the course of a few months, this nun convinces Gene that God wants him to change the trust and remove all of his children from being heirs to the trust and move the entire trust into the corporation. And this... 56:31 obviously creates strife in the family. This is how his family learns what's going on and so his family is like what are you? What do mean? You got an email from a nun? Yeah, well, I got an email from God first. That's what I'm saying. God has it. And this is just like this ruins Thanksgiving one year because they're just sitting there and he just brings up. He's like, I gotta tell you something. 56:53 I've been emailing God. What do you do? mean, like, do do it? It's It's not funny. That's just like I've been hard for the comedy thing right now, but like because that you just bring that on your kids. yeah, and so he's gonna find out about this and obviously like this creates a lot of tension in the relationship and they're trying to figure out what's going on, but he Catherine sister Catherine now convinces him that I hate when you do this in stories. By the way, we're it's like an hour now. 57:20 And like we did so many tornadoes, stupid bits and Disney bits and all that stuff. And then they go by, by the way, this guy was emailing God. Well, there was a lot of build up to get to the God part. does make the payoff is so worth it. But oh my gosh. And so, okay. So Catherine is like your children are our weapons of the enemy. They are trying to stop you from fulfilling what God wants you to do. And so he cuts his children out of his life to be able to move this trust forward. And what's really sad 57:48 is there's actually emails in this court filing that show that he starts emailing Sister Catherine out of like being like, hey, this is like really hard. Like he's like, he's like, miss my kids. Like I feel like I'm, doing something wrong by them. Like I'm hurting my family. Like I'm in financial distress. And so, and Sister Catherine is like, you're doing the right thing. Like convincing him this is what he's supposed to do. So he's in the middle of changing all this stuff. Oh my gosh. And in, let me see. In July of 2024. 58:17 Gene Bicknell suffers a massive stroke. ah He doesn't pass away, but he is incapacitated in the hospital. And while he's incapacitated, the trust documents aren't done. But his next of kin are now able to access what's going on because he's incapacitated. That's right. And that's where they learn the scope and scale of what's going on. And so then they work with lawyers to begin the lawsuit process. And a year later, they're able to go through and put the together. so they actually, the suit that they put together is crazy because 58:47 They didn't just go like, isn't just elder abuse. This isn't just fraud. This is a RICO about uh a violation, which is the racketeering. Essentially, this is organized crime is what they're calling it. And so this trial is ongoing. We don't have a conclusion to this yet, but it does look like because of some of the things that have happened over the course of this case, this is definitely going to be bad for Larry. It's going to be way worse for Rick because we have emails now. 59:17 that can be tied to Rick in both events because of the from and to line and then also the nine oh nine and the emails he was doing in both schemes and so he's like got almighty nine oh nine yeah like he's doing these things where like he got off scot free from that last Park thing. The other guy got ten years in federal prison and it's almost like he's just like I could do it. He's like yeah, I got away with it once and so 59:43 Oh my gosh. Rick made out with a little over a couple million dollars. He was siphoning money out of company. Larry pulled about 400,000 out. Not enough, honestly, if you're trying to do this. Have they been arrested? Steve pulled a little over a million out of the company. I don't know what the... Wait, the Disney Imagineer guy was in on this? Yeah. Was in on the scheme. Yes. Not just like... I don't know how involved. He got a million dollars out of the company. But that's also... Okay, but that... 01:00:12 that also was one of those things where it's like he he might think he's doing legitimate work. That's a big fear. I have actually is that this whole time you've been scamming me, but like you know he like bad, but like he could legitimately be like yeah. I mean I'm I'm doing work for the park. Yeah, I'm paid to do the work for the park and then now now it looks like like he's a part of it. Yeah, you know yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We don't know until the whole all the dust settles on that. Lawyers dig through that. Is gene still alive? 01:00:41 I don't think, well, let me, I don't know. I do know you had the stroke. I do know you had the stroke. I do know he survived the stroke. Today, I don't know if he's still alive. I've seen like recent reporting on this event. So know I'm hot, dude. That makes me so mad. That's crazy. But needless to say, the park is canceled. It's not going to happen. Right now it's just this little piece of gravel in. 01:01:05 The knock-on effects of this are pretty huge too, because remember I said all these businesses took loans. the whole town invested for this, what they thought was going to be a big boon to the city. And it ended up being a massive scam. uh And so it got me thinking, um not too far from here in Oklahoma City, they just recently announced what is going to be the largest tower in the world. 01:01:31 And that's also a scam. just kind of makes you wonder why would you build this in Oklahoma City and like who's paying for this? Why? It just seems too good to be true. Yeah. Just like this park. I don't know. Construction is a good business to hide money in. It's very easy. But last night I texted you because earlier this year their trademark expired and I want it. And so I texted 01:01:59 it costs a lot. It's above our threshold seven hundred. He texts me and the screenshot and I went to the website because he takes me a screenshot. I don't know what the websites call like there is a brisby or whatever busy and Bize and then sends me a screenshot and in his cart it says seven hundred and forty nine dollars and he goes. Is this worth it? No other context. 01:02:23 I was like I literally I said I can't tell you what this is, but is this worth it? And it's like if you go back and listen to our old old episodes like before video, I remember buying eighty dollars of like astronaut ice cream and been like oh, I spent eighty dollars on this bit and that was and then Tim was like oh well if Jaren spent eighty dollars on a I could probably spend eight hundred. Here's the thing I'll tell you what our business makes a little bit more money now and and 01:02:51 we could afford this and if we do, could make merch with the logo. could make merch with this logo and it could say, God told me to do it. I just got an email that said. 01:03:04 Me and the nuns say you should not buy that trademark. Well, the nuts told me also the nuts told me we should fiddle off. Hey, thanks for watching this episode of things I learned last night. If you like this one, there's another theme park that was kind of similar called Freedom Land USA. 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