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00:00 What do you think the most dangerous movie ever made was Moana clothes animated live actually yeah? I go just say it's hard to animate something. It's scary. No, it was a movie called Roar. It's a movie where the cast and crew spent eleven years with live untrained lions, tigers, jaguars, elephants. I think there was even a giraffe or two in there. 00:26 dude, my life with three untrained cats is dangerous enough. Yeah, it's sketchy. This episode is is while I hate. This is things I learned last night. Every week we learn about something interesting and we joke around. It's a good time. We like it a lot. It this is September seventeenth seventeen. You're seeing this September twenty seventh. I am in Houston, Texas, so God 00:54 is Houston, God's, you God's Houston, God's country yeah in Texas. Okay, so Joel, if you see this come on out to the show and then on October fourth, I am in Bartlesville, Oklahoma, God's Oklahoma and then October eleventh. I'm in Tempe, Arizona, Satan's 01:21 tickets for all that stuff on our website. I would love to see you there. It's going to be a wild time. 01:30 Hey man. It was exciting. He's so blow flowing. I love to message William Hung. 01:43 Hey man, what's up? Have you ever heard of roar roar roar romance on a rocket ship? Nope, popular musician in two thousand nine. Nope, not that one. What was romance on our ship songs? You know him because every girl you had a crush on loved romance on a rocket ship. I've never heard of them. Yeah, you have play their stuff. Let's get demonetized. I recognize him, but I don't think I've ever skin in balance is the first song that came up. Play it 02:18 never heard it in my life. You've heard that you listen to that I don't music. You listen that is not the music I listen to that scene kid music. I made fun of seeing kids. I listened to metal core. I punched scene kids and I've seen kids, but you had crush on scene girls. That's actually very accurate and that's what every metal core kid was. Every metal core kid made fun of seeing kids and had crushes on. Yeah. Well, you were trying to make fun of the scene kids so that the scene girls wouldn't think they were cool anymore. Yeah, that's pretty fair. Yeah, that's pretty fair. 02:47 it's pretty wild that even at the lower tiers of being bullied, you guys still bullied each other because real bullies both of you yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's fair. Even the lower tiers you guys were like you guys are like just everybody, everybody has an economy fighting on a fly. Everybody has to put themselves in a pecking order wherever you can get and you guys are you guys are boarding group see just still duking it out. 03:13 boarding group sea of life yeah, but I got the emergency row, so I've got more later. If you're in bruce, you're not getting an emergency. I'm telling you that now, so no roar is a movie from nineteen eighty one. Okay, here's the movie poster for it, a ferocious comedy yeah, so this poster it says roar and big red letters and there's a old fashioned car and then some tigers and some lions and some giraffes 03:41 and a dude on a motorcycle. It looks like it looks like tards is not a dude on a motorcycle yeah up there. It is up there by the rar, so a little bit of backstory on this movie. It was produced by a couple by the name names of no well, Marshall and tippy hedron. No well was a big time movie agent, so his agents. He was an agent for a lot of movie stars. He did get into producing. He's produced and co produced a couple movies, but wasn't like a big producer yet like he was just kind of getting 04:11 the tiptoeing around being a producer, tippy on the other hand, his wife, tippy was a pretty big time movie star. She was in to give you some of her, her bigger. Well, I should say she was in like eighty three movies. Oh, she was in a couple, alfred hitchcock movies. She was in the birds. She won a golden globe 04:39 she won a lifetime achievement award from Genesis and if you go through her Wikipedia, she has a long section of awards and achievements. Okay, so she's I mean a very noteworthy actress in Hollywood is the point I'm trying to make here. She was filming a movie in Africa and on one of the off days her and her husband were like let's go be tourists in Africa. So they went and they did safari. They do the safari 05:08 And while on the safari, they're kind of doing that thing, you know, that couples do sometimes with a dream and hope. 05:19 And they go, we should, we should own all of these animals. We should start a safari while they're on this safari and they're like, they're like, Hey, wouldn't it be fun to do a movie where there was, I don't know, a scientist who had a bunch of lions and he was living with the lions and he wanted to, to see what life could be like, like if we could find unity between the lions and humanity. And that was the dream that they had. And so the two of them, they go back to Los Angeles where they lived. 05:47 I don't know if I showed you a picture of them yet. This is them okay. This is her solo when she was early in her acting career right, but this is late set or early seventies at this point or maybe late sixties at this point, late sixties. They say okay, let's let's pursue this like, but let's give it some time because they were like well, this is going to be a tiff a difficult thing to film logistically right and so like we need to get 06:15 I think most people would say most people would say let's find some people who are professionals when it comes to lions and let's bring in some trainers and have a couple lines on set to film this and have trainers who like have trained lions, so like maybe circus lines or something like that, and they said no, let's get lions when they're infants. What's the race? What's the word cubs? Are they pups? Are you? Are you dumb right now? Are you dumb? Are you doing a bit? Are they cubs or lion cubs? 06:45 What is it? What is it lion? What's? What's the word? Are you joking right now? I mean, I probably know it. I just haven't. I just don't remember it. They're called kids. I do. They really call them kids. No, they don't. Yes, they do. No, they don't 07:01 Baby lion name. 07:05 it's a cub idiot. God, I hate you kid. See anyways, so they get they get a couple lion cubs. They move them into their home in Los Angeles. You suggested pups. I just want to know how stupid you are. They get a couple lion cubs. I here's the I said cubs first, but then that didn't feel right. Their cats cubs is what you call bears and sounds like no other cats. 07:33 Shut up, don't gaslight me like this. Ha ha ha. 07:39 gosh, I hate you called coming there. Oh look at its come mama bear mama, a bear, a bear, gummy bear, mama bear and bibethis mama bear, papa bear, gummy bear, so no, so they get a couple lion cubs as infants where they got them. I don't know as cubs as they're like. Let's raise them that 08:03 is I'm going to tell you that's my wife's logic. She's like no, she she literally was like can we get a raccoon? I said no, we can't get a raccoon. Yeah, absolutely. We can not get a rep with three cats. A baby when you get it, that's exactly what she said it loves, but you'll raise it and it'll be and I was like that thing will tear your eyes out. She also wants birds. Well, do you see that tick tock? Is that what that is? I'm sure my wife wants, so there's I told you about this a maca. Yeah, I think so. Okay, sounds from your maca is yeah. It's a parrot. 08:31 Yeah, the the what you think of when you think of a pair of red, blue, green, you know, white, white and black face, yeah, do you know how long they live? Have we talked about this? I think we have like seventy years, seven. I didn't know that that's insane. Why is it the same life? So we have a family member. One of my family is trying to rehome their their thirty year old maca because they are going more years on that thing. That's what I'm saying. They're getting too old and going to 09:00 probably go to a home yeah and they can't take their maca yeah, but they got thirty years ago yeah, so Reagan was like oh we should we should get that bird and I said we should absolutely not get that sounds bird. That sounds like a nightmare. I birds as old as I am yeah yeah she's like yeah. What will we name it? 09:17 I said you'd probably leave its name because it knows like if I got adopted by two new people who were like where your parents were going to change your name. No, you're not. I'm a grown man. You can't change my name. His name has been Tiki for thirty years. You can't change that change it. Yeah. I said also with three cats. She was still the birds bigger than the cast. I said that's why I can't come in this apartment, so that's but that's my wife's logic. My wife is like we could get baby cubs. Yeah, I bet she saw. I bet she saw the that tick talk with the 09:47 it is the mom who it really sad story. Her child passed away right afterwards. She met a raccoon. She was like yeah, she met a raccoon there. She met. She met a raccoon. She thinks it's her kid. 09:59 or the she's a mental break. She's been raising this raccoon as her own child. What what happened was there was a little school. She put shoes on it and she was like got shoes, the raccoon, let him go to school. It's a little baby raccoon is coming up to her kitchen window. Let me do this here. She was a raccoon. She was feeding feeding the raccoon fruit loops as a little baby raccoon. The raccoon came back with friends 10:26 and then the raccoon like moved into her backyard and she would feed it and it became like part of their family and lived the rest of it. I what in their backyard, they let them in claims that her grandparents had had pet raccoons. Yeah, not sure how much I believe that, but yeah, I mean they probably just had raccoons. They probably just had a cat that look at a raccoon. They probably just had a raccoon problem. That's like what you're saying is pets. 10:50 there. They would call it an in there was pasts yeah. They said past, but they had a list. They had a reverse list, so I couldn't pronounce as it's pet. It's our pet. They can't pronounce as is okay. 11:09 pest, pet, pet, pet, pet, pet, that it's our pet that a hard let in it hard to learn at sound out evolved into problematic areas so fast, so they get these cubs and they're like okay, get these come and they're like. Can we raise 11:36 can we raid them? We do that the whole episode that sucks dude, Tim Locker so mad right now. So they give me the client. We do professional work. We're professionals, yeah we are and our client has apparently started listening to podcast. I wish he would yeah. We keep telling the stop showing up to our trust. I feel like you guys are really dumb. We're like you for just just pay your invoice. We're like as we can do that sound 12:06 Shushing someone when you can't make out sounds is so hard. 12:17 DOOPIN 12:21 so roar so I hate it, so they get these blind cubs. At this point, they have a couple children. They're in this the suburbs of La sure and they're raising their children with these cubs and oh I've heard of these people yeah, and so they have a couple. They've seen a couple more the lions like just full on lions in their house yeah, so 12:49 it ends up getting to the point where they've got five full grown lions in their home. Someone probably a neighbor or something they never told anybody. You know they didn't tell their landlord landlords. You guys paying pet rent for those all right. Do you guys to well, they're not renters. Wait a minute there. She's a movie star. They're not renters. They've got like a nice home in like the hill. Oh, you got to be rich to have an own a home anyway. Yeah, I was saying was we should do a show TV show. All right, let's pitch this okay. 13:16 where we just go to hotels that have a pet policy yeah and we register that we have two cats and we just try to bring a live tiger. I tell her yeah, that's a great idea. I know wonderful. I think that's really funny yeah and then we don't put the do not disturb on and we put a tip on the on the bed and the tigers there right next to the tip. Now you're playing a game with housekeeping yeah, but there's a took that to an elite level 13:46 that was so different than what I was saying. What are you saying? I'm just seeing if we can get the tiger in the room to get away with a pet policy. You're saying let's subject someone who works minimum wage cleaning hotel rooms to a challenge for their tip. That's what you're saying you elite yeah, make good TV of crap. So they have these 14:12 they've got these five lines in their house and the Hollywood Hills. Someone goes hey, you can't have those yeah the water. A is their son's fifteen their son's fifteen at the time and he he starts pointing out some inaccuracies because they've been talking about this like this is going to be a movie. It's going to take place in Africa. There's going to be a scientist and he's going to have be living with the lions and he's like he's like I think we've got some issues here. I don't think that there's things that are scientifically accurate because they've got a couple lines, but they also have like a mountain line. They've got a tiger 14:38 and he's like, he's like, there's no tigers in Africa or mountain lines. Like this is an American mountain lion and they were like, don't worry about it. Like, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. 14:53 sells to the seven days right yeah. This is early seventies at this point. 15:00 in the early days of this show, we did like affiliate ads where we were like a sign up for grammarly and use code till and and we got like fifteen cents and now we just do patreon. It's a much better way. It's better for us as creators. It's better for you as listeners and it's a much more fun way for us to interact. We do monthly hangouts like on zoom. We just hang out and play games online and and get to know each other. It's a really fun time so 15:27 but still use our code till in at grammerly dot com because I think it's still I think we might get like a couple cents from that, but join us on patreon because we're having a great time. If you don't, we're going to have to start doing mobile game ads. 15:44 So yeah, one of their neighbors tips off animal control and is like ham pretty sure they have live lions in their house in the Hollywood. It was like in their house. Who cares and so animal control comes. They knock on the door, they see the lions and they give them a twenty four hour remove the giant African apex predators from your house. Notice in the window, sunbathing was asked to go that that's a lion. That's a line. Yeah. So animal control literally is like you have twenty four hours to give the big cats out of your yes. Yeah 16:13 and they're like they're like you have twenty four hours to get the lions out of your house and he's like and they're like time a sovereign citizen. I know my rights according to article four and eight of the American Constitution, so they were like they're like okay. What are we going to do and this is? I think this is actually where do they live in L. A. Do you know? I don't know the Hollywood Hills. That's all I know. Okay, they 16:41 the here's the thing. Here's the thing about the what happened here. Okay, they were this is, I think, a testament to the times because they got a twenty four hour notice. They said you have twenty four hours to get rid of cat, these big cats and they were able to pull it off by buying property outside L. A and so they bought it is now well. Hold on. Let me see if I can figure out exactly 17:11 what the Santa Clarita? Oh, so they bought it. They bought it a little way else a little outside of town, the mountains yeah and and really outside Santa Clarita to it's like property like in like they've got an acreage out there, but they were able to pull that off in twenty four hours and get the lines out of there. They're also rich yeah, but I just think that's a sign of the times is like oh yeah in the seventy's you could go by property in twenty four hours yeah and I don't just yeah and then go drop your lines off there and then now they've got 17:41 acres in the car yeah. They've got a cabin and they've got acres of land outside of Santa Clarita and now they're like well, wait a second. Can we up the Annie a little bit like? Can we get some more and so they started going to like zoos and circuses and just places that have hey. Can we have your lions yeah pretty much and so they were just at the zoo. Yes, like we'll take them 18:09 this is like what we'd like your lions. Yeah, we like the lines that you guys have yeah. Hold on. Can you hold on? I don't think I understand. I don't think I understand what you're asking right now. I'd like to take your lions yeah and I'd like you to go in there and get your tip. Excuse me. What that's them being that's them looking down on a on a okay. I see what you're saying. I've left a hundred dollars for you in the center of the lion cage, so 18:39 over the course of the seventy over the course of the seventies from that moment until nineteen seventy nine. Now that they've got some property, they just started accumulating more big cats until nineteen seventy nine when they decided okay now we're ready to begin producing our movie. They got to the point where they now have you ready for this 18:58 I'm going to start on the I'm they got some other, some other animals too. So I'm going to start on one end of it. They had a Maribu stork, seven flamingos, two peacocks, four cranes, four Canadian geese, six black swans, two elephants, four leopards, two jaguars, ten cougars, nine black panthers, 19:28 a Tygon, which is a lion tiger put together that they like cross breeded twenty six tigers and seventy one lions just on their property rubbing around. They got they got cages and stuff. No, it's like an open that a free range lions and tigers and elephants. They've free range. Ah, okay, yeah, it's a they used to have three elephants. 19:58 So they start trying to cast this movie right. He's he's a bit of a producer. Oh no, no, no, we've built our own wild safari and we'd like to. This is what they're putting out at a rudimentary level. Yeah, our backyard is full of wild animals. Yes, no cages. Yes, why don't you come film here? So the concept that they put out is here's the here's the plot. Here's the basic plot line of what the movie is going to be. There's a scientist in Africa and he has been living in Africa on at this cabin with 20:26 all these lions and he's been training the lions and he's trying to develop like a theory where lining the lions. I should maybe say studying the lions that he's he's I mean I guess he is training them because he has this theory that lions and humans can live training your dogs together. I gosh that I'm every time I come to your house. I bring little treats and I train your dogs. He said this to me on the phone the other week and honestly is a pretty funny bit in Spanish and so that way 20:56 one day when I'm at your house, I can just I guess like Famanos and then your dog will come to me because your dogs don't pay attention to your all. I don't know if you know this. Your dogs are not very well behaved. They don't respect your commands at all. My goal is to convince you that I'm just their alpha and like they just respond to my commands. Yeah, yeah, that's honestly a hilarious bit to do to somebody to you 21:22 do it to somebody else. I was going to wait till I make your wife mad yeah. It hangs. It happens every time we hang out and yeah and then right at the peak of her just being like. What are you talking? I was going to be like I'm leaving by one of your dog to go to just jumps up and runs out the building with you. It's pretty good bit truck. It's a funny bit. I were annoyed by it. I am annoyed by it. 21:48 anyways, you're annoyed because you can't train your dogs. No, I'm annoyed because you think I can't train my dogs. I've been to your house. They just they're happy dogs. They're happy dogs up. Oh my gosh, so you have twenty four hours, so the the basic plot small one, the basic plot is vicious. Yeah, that's a shit. Sue thing. I'll never forget the way that Oakley treated my wife right. Yeah, 22:15 just disrespect. We that that was we trade that train. You train your dog when you open your back door muddy paws to run straight to your cream colored couch just so we're clear. Yeah, yeah, just jump over in your couch and then you guys were like you guys. You let me stay the night there one time and you're like you can just sleep on the couch. Oh can I covered in mud? This is disgusting. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I don't have to defend myself to you 22:43 so you should the scientist lived in Africa yeah, and I he was in Africa free year. He was with these these lines and I guess you could say training him. He's studying if he could create a relationship between humans and lions sure halfway through his stay in Africa. His family has to come out for some reason. This is the plot of the movie yeah, and so his family has to come out and then they have to then they're in Africa and with all these lines and then there's a twist and the lions all of a sudden. 23:13 have a problem with his family and they have to like survive with the lions and but build as a comedy. It sounds ferocious. It sounds like a horror honestly, but it's not. It's a comedy, so they they do a casting call and they get a lot of like because they have connections. She's a major, a major actress with a lot of connections in in Hollywood, and so they get a lot of 23:42 interest from people and like their agents are talking to them and they're like oh, this is this has potential and then they ask. They start asking like logistics and then everybody starts finding out. Oh, these are just like you just have a bunch of line like there's not like. Do you have a crew that go? These trains, safety, precaution, like what is this and they so people start dropping. I'd be more afraid of the geese than I am in the lions. They got for for Canadian geese just wandering around and so yeah, that's heard. Yeah, they're mean they're rude. 24:10 and so they were targeting Jack Nicholson for the scientist. Perfect. He immediately was like absolutely not. I'm not going to do that. I'm busy and so they're going down from their a list of people. They go through the blis, they go through the C list. No one's no one's fighting on it and in fact a lot of the crew that they wanted to hire is like. I don't want to be involved in that yeah and so I don't want to catch someone getting eaten live on camera so in 24:38 after about a year of working on it, they began filming and what they said is well, I guess we'll just do it. So no well spent ten years accumulating his animals and now no one wants to do this idea. Yes, so no well decides he'll be the scientist. Okay, never acted a day in his life right. He's an agent and a producer. He's pretty. How hard can it be? Yeah, he's like I can do it yeah and then tippy. Obviously she's an actress 25:07 So she's got a lot of experience. She'll be the wife and then their kids will be the kids. And then they found some random people who were like desperate for work to be all the extra side characters found put together this rag tag group of a crew and they started shooting. The goal was six months on set and then they were going to compile that footage and put it into a movie. Here's the thing. These 25:37 are not trained lions right there, real lions and shooting they had. It was kind of like a what's the word i'm looking for? It was kind of improv like they had a concept but oh yeah script everything and they're like let's just see what happens and so just set the cameras and they filmed it and it went as well as you think it went right. They expected this to be like a two million dollar venture 26:06 and they expected to take six months, but because of complications, maybe that's a good word to use. It's stretched. What kind of complications? So everybody was getting attacked by lions, the crew, the actors and actresses. It was the family. No yeah, the family. Oh over the course of 26:33 six years of filming. It ended up stretching to six years to film this yeah, because people kept getting hurt and they had to pause how her a while pretty significantly seventy two injuries occurred while filming this movie. There was situations where people got trampled tippy. She had she got gang green because she was stepped on by the elephant and it 27:03 crushed her leg. She got an infection. She got grand gang green and so then she was out for months recovering from that stepped on by an elephant. She has that down by the elephant yeah. They all got bit and scratched and cut by big cats throughout the course of the movie. Multiple times people have a doing hundreds of stitches with the cats. Do you know this is interesting? I do know I actually watched the movie. It's on YouTube for free. Just search roar. Nineteen eighty one it's 27:34 bad. Well, I should say the cinematography is pretty good. There's some shots that feel it's obviously nineteen eighty one, so it's like yeah like you know that era of like it feels like an old western. The way it's shot like where it's I don't know. I don't know it's a little backward. It's a little slow. No it does. What I will say is the setting does. It does feel a little believable that this is Africa, except for the animals are wrong because they have 28:02 lions and mountain or tigers and mountain lions and stuff. And so that that's kind of pulls you out of it for a bit. But like the setting itself, like the hills and like the open spaces do feel kind of like a savanna. Okay, so it does. It does. It is believable and they've got a ton of land that they're filming this on. Right. And so there's not really any structures around. It's their log cabin in the middle of it. There's like a river that runs through it. And the movie is interesting because, like I said, like there's these really 28:31 kind of beautiful shots of like sure them driving through the property and there's all these lions and animals and stuff all over the place and like kind of, I don't know, just really nice looking shots, but then that's just opposed next to like actual dialogue and the dialogue's awful with the exception of was the dialogue like hey, where are the big cats kind of like stuff like that, but it's also a lot of I should say and I would say probably eighty percent of them film is them. 28:59 getting attacked by lions and that's not exaggeration. What they did is they would just go kind of honestly egg these animals on get attacked, film it and put it in the movie. That was so much of the movie was them just getting attacked by lines. Here's a scene of no well getting attacked by a lion and this is a genuine lion attack like this is not blood on his hand. This is not yeah. That's his own blood. It's not a special effect. This isn't 29:28 made to be different. This is another one of this was his assistant getting actually attacked by a lion yeah and then here we have. I think that's his daughter and then tippy's trying to pull the lion off of her. This is this is his daughter jumping in the pool. This is not what I thought it was. It's genuine lion attacks and people multiple people ended up with like 29:57 seventy plus stitches a house. Anybody lose limbs, nobody lost a limb, but a lot of people one one crew member. I think I've seen this picture though, like they've got like yeah, because this is at their house, though this is not the this is before they moved right. No, I think this is on the property because they do have the pull on the property here. Here's a with the elephant. This is animal abuse, though yeah property 30:26 yeah, this is on their property. That's wild. Here's another shot. This is them laying in bed with a bunch of tigers and then that's there's raise kind of the apex moment of the movie. They're the family comes out. They visit. There's a really awkward scene where like they fly in. They fly into Africa. They land in the airport. They have to get on this bus and they bought this really sketchy looking bus 30:54 to make it believable. They're riding in this bus. There's all these extras in the shot and the kids and the mom are on the bus and they're talking about how they haven't seen dad for a year and some other mom says is like she's like she's like well why hasn't why haven't we said seen dad for a year? How do you think he's doing and stuff like that? And she's like well she said you know we were having trouble sometimes like you need to take a break distance makes the heart grow fonder you know and then 31:23 Hey, thanks for checking out this episode. In that mailing list, we give updates on past episodes. and every week things are changing. in the happenings of Tilen topics. Also, we give updates on things that's happening 31:49 I like 32:15 It's just like this really awkward scene. And then the daughter, I don't know if I can say this stuff on our show, we have a G rated show. She asks some questions you don't ask your mom. In front of all her siblings in a public bus and it's like very uncomfortable. It's a very uncomfortable moment. And these are the kind of dial, like those are their comedy moments are just like a little raunchy and weird. 32:38 like but it's not it never lands like there was never a single moment in this movie where you're like where I laughed like I was like that was supposed to be funny. There's a lot. I was like that was supposed to make me last way a lot of people watch this podcast. They go. Oh, I was just I was supposed to be comfortable, but they're like crowning moment in the movie is there's there's a science group that comes out to meet with him. They freak out. They're like oh you just you're just living with a bunch of lions. They get there and there's a bunch of lions fighting and he has to go break up a lion fight, so he just 33:07 runs into a group of like seven lines fighting each other and then they start fighting him and he gets like rag dolled because he just runs in and inserts himself into a genuine real life lion fight. The no well yeah producers to the scientist yeah he literally runs into it. They throw him in the pond like they literally like he runs in and one of them just swipes him and he like rag dolls into the pond and those other scientists are there. They see that and 33:36 they are like we need to shoot these lions. They're going to kill one of you guys yeah, it's like you can't do that and so they those scientists guys see a couple things they freak out. They leave and in as a result of all that the lions get really riled up and they start trying to kill everybody and so then the back half of the movie is them just running around the house, running away from the lions and that was the story line. Yes, yeah, 34:02 okay. This isn't real life that there was like there. The well, it is real life. Yeah, it is real. I kill them. I are trying to kill them, but the story line was all that was that was happening, but their lives were just trying to kill him because they were trying to live in my point. The real life story is more interesting than yes, whatever movie you're trying to do. Yeah, I think that's definitely true, but yeah, and so it like culminates in this moment where they're in the house with all these 34:29 and just running around the house trying to get away from like 45 lions inside the house. And it's like, you're not going to get away from them. It's, it's unreal. I mean, like people got seriously injured on this set. There was a moment where the entire crew walked out after filming and he had to replace the whole crew because the crew is like, this is insane. We can't be a part of this anymore. And then he had to replace the entire crew. 34:57 because it was it was insane and people were constantly getting hurt. He said after the fact he was like he's like it's honestly a miracle that we got away with this like it and it worked out and it's like it didn't work out didn't work out. Nobody died. This film sucks. Nobody died. It's really what he was saying. It's like it's a miracle. Nobody died is what he's trying to say, but a lot of people got seriously hurt like seriously, seriously injured because this was an insane idea. At one point they realized hey the lions really don't like the motorcycle 35:27 and so the motorcycle great. The motorcycle became a big thing in the movie about half of the movie. The motorcycle became this recurring thing where they just drove the motorcycle around and all the big cats would get fired up and start chasing him around on the motorcycle and he would ride around the property while they chased him. I can't overstate how much of this movie is just him getting a just him getting attacked or or the or the lions attacking each other and or somebody else and him. He has names for all of them. 35:56 and he's running around calling them by name and trying to stop it and so he but it's like in the movie yeah it's in the movie and but he's like but the way he's doing it is weird. He's like he's like taber taber no taber and how you guys act with your dog quincy no quincy stop so you're like that's not doing anything that's exactly what it is yeah, but the lions oakly it works on oakly 36:25 it. Oh, you guys shame your dogs quince. It doesn't work. I'm going to use the worst. It works on Oakley though or yeah to yeah. He's just he's just running out yelling to her. Now I should try I do to Reagan, so I'm I go Reagan and that's why she that why so she shames you in public. Yeah, yes, sir, Mr Sir. 36:51 Yeah, yes, that and then people think I'm sorry Sir. Yeah, she does that as a little bit and people think that I'm like a psycho, so 37:09 Okay, so after six years of production in nineteen eighty one, they released this movie. The majority of the movie is just people actually getting attacked. Yeah, it got interrupted over and over again from people getting it on run. People walking out on it. What's interesting there was I think it was seventy nine ish. I don't know somewhere around there. There was a big flood in the valley and the flood broke the gates and a bunch of the lions got out nine of the lions got out and the police actually shot three of them. 37:38 because there was just lions running around town. Yeah, I don't know how they what happened with the other ones, but by the end of production, three percent not a great record there police, but over the course of production. I said it was a six year production cycle. They started out with seventy lions and then a handful of other big cats. By the end of production, they had a hundred and fifty big cats on set. How these gap getting them yeah and there was over there were seventy two attacks that they recorded the vast majority of those required 38:08 ten plus stitches. Many of they there was pretty gruesome, a lot of really gruesome injuries. I don't think anybody lost limbs, but there's a lot of really gruesome injuries. Every attack in the movie is a real attack. All the blood in the movies, real blood, it is insane. They put this movie out in eighty one and it didn't do well. They spent seventeen million dollars on it. Their budget was two million and they spent seventeen million 38:37 halfway through production, the all the investors backed out. They had they had a lot of problems with insurance through the whole process. They had to keep changing stuff to keep insurance happy, how they were able to pull that off and sure clearly hadn't had to have no idea what was going on. Yeah, this kept switching insurance company or they were committing insurance fraud. Yeah, it could have been both. I am willing to bet that some people died. Yeah, and they just didn't disclose it close. They cover it up. Yeah, that's honestly possible. 39:07 that's very possible because yeah, it's hard to believe that somebody didn't that somebody didn't because yeah, they they pretty much the their plan for every day of shooting was let's go make these lions mad and see what happens and capture it on film. Like it's hard to believe that and people did regularly get hurt. So it hits the theaters and it grosses two million dollars and so 39:37 massive loss. They end up having to sell all of their properties to make up for the loss of what they had. They convert this property into a the Shambala preserve, and so now it's an animal sanctuary. They sold it to someone who's now running it, and I think part of the sale was you got a lot of lions and tigers and stuff now, and so like the only really thing you can do is start an animal. 40:03 preserve. Yeah, there's nothing else you can do there. Yeah, like this is your option like you can try to re home on, but I don't know how you're going to do that. Put it on craigslist lions for sale one hundred and one hundred fifty lions, one hundred fifty acres, fifty five, five tigers, fifty five panthers, so not a great result. The here's what's interesting about it. 40:33 mm in two thousand and fourteen. I think it was okay. They they put it on YouTube. It grosses eighteen billion dollars. Well, what they did is they put it on you. They didn't put on YouTube. They re released it. They did a re release and made it like like a B like a B horror movie kind of thing. I kind of one of those things and trying to make a cult classic out of it yeah yeah and it kind of worked. They didn't make very much money. I don't know how much they made on this re release. That's not like a figure we have 41:03 but what's strange is when you look at the ratings on IMDB, this isn't a great rating by any means, but it's better than I would have given it after having seen the movie. It's got a six point one out of ten stars rotten tomatoes, though this is interesting. They gave it a seventy two percent. Is that audience score? No, that's the that's the critic score as the critic score. The audience score is fifty one percent. The critics gave it seventy two percent and I think. I think they probably for the stunts 41:33 I think yeah. I think what gave it a good score is genuinely like there are some shots that are like really good and the score is decent, so I think like it's like nerdy critic stuff that got it a high score because the the dialogue is rough. The script is rough yeah and the majority of the movie. The movie's hard to watch. It's very dull like you're just watching people get chased around by lions for an hour and a half and it's like I'm so tired of this. 42:00 I watched that on tick tock though. I watched compilations of people getting hurt by big cats. I actually looked that up big cat compilation. Yep, yep. I tried to find it on pure flicks, but I can't find it's not on pure flicks. Yeah, so much blood. Yeah, yeah. What I mean, I don't even yeah, no one on so pure flicks. This is one that you need to watch. I don't know. I don't know if I'm allowed to watch it until I watch read the pure flicks review, so so that's hard for me. 42:29 since you guys haven't covered it, but that's crazy. Yeah, the movie ended up being a pretty tough thing for them to swallow. So year afterwards, no Ellen tippy got divorced, probably as a result of the I don't know her and her kids got attacked by lions over and over again because of him yeah, and then times losing everything by an elephant for your spouse. You know yeah, yeah, it's true and I mean you got a figure to like like they did literally lose everything yeah pursuing this project yeah. 42:59 and they got hurt a lot physically for it and it did kind of like. I mean, where are those kids now it's late in her career, but it did kind of hurt her like her career kind of was over after this for sure, which is pretty sad. Her kids, they went on to live pretty normal lives. Probably the most noteworthy thing about them is their daughter is the mother, so I guess their granddaughter was in fifty shades of gray. That's really the 43:27 the only noteworthy thing that comes out of the line. She's a main girl yeah, and so that's her lineage. The main actress is yeah. I don't know either okay, so that but like the rest of them just went on to live kind of normal lives and have this story that they tell at parties. I they're like. I used to live with a hundred and fifty tigers. Oh the sun though, when he was in when he was in high school when they had the baby tiger, he used to take it to restaurants and that's how he would pick up girls. 43:54 as they would be like oh my gosh, can I pet your line your tiger and he's like ah he's like it's not really smart to do that out in public yeah. You got to fight back to my house, yep, he would be like if I can get your phone number, you can come over to my house and you can meet my I got a couple lines there too. You can meet I have a couple and it worked out really well for seventy nine. To be exact, I have a few lions, lions yeah yeah careful. They'll bite you and I have a macaque that is eighty nine years old. 44:24 but yeah, that's the movie roar. The they build it as they're like tagline was roar. No animals were harmed in the making of this movie, but a bunch of people were a hundred percent. 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