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00:00 have a message from the profit stop Coney, twenty, twenty twelve, that's not hits twenty, twenty five your way off whatever. If you're a millennial, this is a core memory for you in your high school college age years where this mega viral event happened in two thousand and twelve. Yes, this thirty minute video goes crazy viral and we're all going to try to stop this guy in Uganda, yeah, who is assembling a children's army yeah, but as it turns out 00:27 there was some problems with the film and there was problems with the film maker that derail the entire movement in a matter of weeks, yeah and it it derailed in a pretty big way spectacular way. So we cover what actually happened with Coney 2012 and where it stands today. Yeah, it involves the Lorax 00:48 Yeah, so you get it. This is things I learned last night. It's a comedy podcast, so we're going to cover the topic and then also we joke around a laugh a lot along the way. This whole show we learn useless information and we joke around and so if you like this episode, you want more of it. We got two hundred something other episodes you can check out. We appreciate you for being here. Let's jump into the episode. 01:09 Hey man, what's up? Have you ever heard of Coney? Twenty twelve? Yes, yes for our young listeners, you're in for a treat. Do you know this story? I only remember small parts of what we lived through. I like like I remember Coney, Twenty Twelve being a meme. Like I remember people being like Coney Twenty Twelve and like saying it everywhere and like wearing the shirts and stuff like that. 01:38 but I'm going to be honest as a joke, not as a joke, but just like I just remember it being everywhere, yeah, everywhere. It didn't start as a meme. I know yeah yeah yeah, but I didn't know what I had. Yeah, I don't remember ever finding out what it was. Oh, I remember watching the original video. Oh really? Yes, I remember. I never saw the video real clearly a friend. It was in my it was when my parents are building their house and so we were in that crappy rental and so we didn't have a computer room. It was like just in the side of our living room. 02:07 and I remember sitting there for the full like how how long was it? Twenty seven minutes yeah yeah thirty minute video yeah that we watched at the computer yeah. I knew I remember knowing who Coney was yeah and I remember people were like yeah. We got to take him down right and I remember the Coney twenty twelve thing being everywhere, but I never saw the video. I didn't know you never want. I didn't know what Coney you watch this or why yeah 02:34 or why so I had to go down half an hour to watch that video, but yet you don't have any time to research the topics that I gave you. This is a this is a topic you gave me this literally is a topic you gave me. It's not a topic I gave you literally. You said Coty twenty twelve, but that prove that you gonna prove that yes. I'll pull my phone out of it, but prove that I text that to you. I'm doing it right now. I don't think that this is real. I didn't suggest this you did 03:00 right. I said tell me the origin of the sonic coney hot dog and somehow you ended up here at cony twenty twelve 03:11 Gosh, we have way too many texts in this thread. Yeah, hold on, hold on. I'm I'm I'll see if I can find 03:21 I don't know. I'm trying to find trying to I can't I can't find out of I swear you not know this was something that you said we should do. I swear oh my gosh tick tock or did you already check Instagram? No, I didn't check Instagram. Why don't you look at 03:55 you turned on vanish mode you freaking monster. How do I turn that off? Can I not turn that off? Can I do? Am I not able? I don't know if you turn on vanish one. Can I not turn vanish? What I do anything? Oh my gosh, hold on. I'll fix this. I'm trying to there we go. That's right. I un send a message real quick. 04:18 all right, go back to it. So I really don't think I said I'm trying to un the message real quick. What dog 04:32 is it like that? I don't know. It's pretty funny. I would have Mariah oh no. I added that it said and said. Hey, do you want to get festive? That's what it said. Okay, you deleted it, you deleted it. 04:52 you a hundred percent deleted it. I know for a fact you recommended this. All right, this is to this is a stupid thing or too much time on this. We have too much to cover. Oh man, you said coding twenty twelve. I know for a fact you said coding twenty twelve. I'm not going to have you gas like me like this. This was one of your recommendations. The only reason I did this okay. I can't find it to be honest like I this started as me gas lighting. I can't find it. It went to maybe you delete. Maybe I didn't send this. I know you did 05:22 I know you did. Maybe you said it on a phone, convert, maybe you said it in person in a conversation like on the phone or something. Maybe it wasn't in a message. Huh? We do talk to each other a lot, so it's probably it might have been in a conversation. Some might say we're codependent. Some might say that yeah, so Coney yeah, Coney Coney is the last name of a man named Joseph Coney. He was the leader or I guess is the leader of the Lord's Resistance Army that 05:50 LRA. This is his official logo that he made with colored pencil. Yeah honestly for a colored pencil logo, not bad sure, but the this is him. This is this is Joseph Coney. Yes, we've all seen him. He we haven't because I brought this up to a couple younger people and they had no idea what this is. Are you serious? Yes, I mean I guess I guess I didn't know the story either like I right. 06:18 of no, but I'm saying like we were we were seniors in high school the year this happened yes and so people younger than us were a lot of our fans who are early twenties. Yes, we're literally eight years old. Yes, yes and so they have no idea what this is. So this organization, the Lord's Resistance Army was founded in nineteen eighty seven right and just a coney founded it as like a rebellion against then you gone and pro president 06:46 Yowary Musavini. Musavini. We'll just call him Musavini, because that's his last name. And so, Musavini wasn't, was like kind of a dictator, and Kony was rebelling against him. There was a lot of different rebel groups that were rebelling against him. Kony came from, Joseph came from a separate religious, I guess you could say rebel group. He was brought up in that, and that was led by 07:15 they had a single woman who was the head, the figurehead of that organization and she claimed to be possessed by God and so she and she had some very strange war tactics. So he grew up in a cult, essentially yeah yeah and and so he was brought up in all that and so when he started his he brought over some of that stuff into his lra. What year was he born? Do you know he would have been born? Hold on, let me look 07:45 Okay, so he's twenty six when this is happening, yes, and so he starts his organization and in his organization he takes some of that same stuff over to his organization. His goal is to create a new Uganda that is ruled by the ten commandments. That is his plan and he says he's he is inhabited by three spirits and those three spirits had three distinct personalities and they would speak through him all the time and he when he would when they would speak through them, he would change his voice to sound like the spirit that was speaking through him. 08:14 so there's one where one of them was a female and so he would raise his voice really high and be like I have a message from the prophet or something. I don't know what I don't know what all the spirits names were, but you just clip that can you just clip him in the I have a message from the profit and just put that at the beginning of the episode with zero context before the intro, maybe right after the intro as the transition so 08:42 Yeah, so coney's doing weird like it's a call. It's definitely a cop and the people who follow him. He's got another one that's just like a big old southern car salesman kind of guy. I have a message from the profit yeah, and I'm down here to sell you this Ugandan government's trying to take. You know, I could put you in a new today on this night. This we got to get in that rav for 09:10 and so there's an interview for me. I'm a son. You join in the Lord's Resistance Army. Are you built for tough? Are you built Lord? Are you built Lord? Oh, that's built Lord tough. That's incredible. We could sell that in any Christian bookstore, Caruso official built Lord tough. 09:38 so there's a interview from I believe the nineties or early two thousands with one of his soldiers and they're asking them about coney and they say so it so is he God and he's like no he's not God, but he's got three spirits living within him and they're like oh so so can he die and he was they were like no he can't die only one of those spirits can and then the other two agree with all show 10:07 Oh shoot, he killed him. 10:17 I love that one of his inner voices sounds like the puppet from Mr Rogers, the King. I haven't seen the game. You haven't seen the King, not seen the King. Did you watch as a Rogers Gornal? That's why you can't have an intimate vulnerable relationship with people around you. Yeah, that's my parents said you can't watch it. They're like that'll make you soft. 10:41 I was only allowed to watch Fear Factor. 10:46 and a thousand ways to die. Gotta make sure this kid scared. It's only allowed to watch spike tv. 10:55 and so they asked them. They asked them if he could die and they said no he can't die and the guy the guy interviewing him says. So if I walked over and I shot him right now, the guy was like he wouldn't die. No, he wouldn't die. Okay, okay, and so they believed he was like this immortal prophet that was coming to save them and deliver them from the tyrannical is in the nineties. Yeah, this started in eighty seven and so they they are an actual rebel like rebel group through this this era. 11:24 and there's no ways to mince words around it. He was a terrible, terrible. Sure leader. Leader of this, this, this group. There's a long list of crimes that he committed. Lots of violence, lots of murders, lots of death. Probably the most brutal thing that he was known for is he would kidnap kids in the middle of the night. And then he would make them kill their parents. So that way they had, they, he was their only source of life. 11:53 and so he would take them, conscript them into his army. If they were male, if they were women, then make them go back and kill their parents, yeah, and make them kill their parents. So that way they would rely on them. And then if there was ever any issues, he would always have these are kids. He would turn them against each other. And so if one of the kids was became a problem, he'd make the kids kill the other kids. And so very violent, very, very evil, very bad person. Yeah, and was a female. What happened? Oh, I mean he took them into 12:23 slavery got you and so the his regime was a terrible regime and caused a lot of damage to a lot of people. How big is it? His army yeah, I don't know how big it was in its height. Let's see this as as of two thousand and six. There was forty two children in his army. I don't know 12:44 That's what I'm saying. It was okay over the course of the years, sixty six thousand children became soldiers. Okay, that's what I was saying. That was from six hours from forty two. That was from eighty seven to two thousand nine okay yeah. So in two thousand six it clearly was not at probably the height of its operation. You know what was like the yeah yeah, so yeah it's it's gone up and down over over the years. Sure, then we need to enter in another important person to into the story. A guy by the name of Jason Russell, 13:14 Here he is Jason Russell. Yes, Jason Russell is a guy who has been through every version of celebrity pastor that first picture is what I recognize. Oh, did he go to homesteader here at the end? It's incredible. It genuinely is incredible. Every celebrity pastor style like sense of style. He's had all of them. I don't know how he pulled 13:44 I mean, he's clearly got his inspiration from one place to be this group. But he was an aspiring filmmaker. He lived in San Diego, went to film school, graduated film school in the early 2000s and was looking, him and his friends were looking for an opportunity to shoot a documentary. Here they are, here's their little crew of filmmakers. And so they said, okay, we want to make a documentary. 14:13 what are we gonna make a documentary about? We gotta make a story. And so they start traveling, they start doing like missions work globally in an attempt to find a story to make a documentary about. So they end up in Uganda and they hear about this story. They meet a kid who was taken into the Lord's Resistance Army and the kid tells Jason his story. Him and his brother were taken into the army, they were forced to kill their parents. 14:38 His brother was actually killed in front of him by the army because his brother tried to escape and told him this whole story, terrible story. And that like changed Jason's life. Jason, there's a video of Jason saying, if this happened in America, it'd be on the cover of Newsweek. Like this could never happen in the United States, but because it's happening here, no one knows about it. And so he commits his life to like solving this problem. And so, 15:08 he starts an organization called Invisible Children because that and it's named that because he felt like all these kids were invisible to the west like they had no idea the struggle that they were going through and so they start making documentaries. So they released a documentary kind of chronicling everything that they've seen that they saw on that trip. There's some questionable moments in that documentary yeah, but he's holding a bazooka right yeah well the what's 15:36 what's rough about this, this moment is this is the LRA. They visited an LRA camp and they're like you guys want to hold the guns, you're like yeah, that be sick. It should be like if you were doing a expose on the police and then they were like you know we go. You want to turn the sirens on honestly. I always wanted to do that. You're like oh as a man. You know I love this. Let's pull some Tasm 16:05 that stays up and you get lost in the yeah yeah and so this organization really what they did is they started a non profit and the non profit was for awareness. They weren't going to go do humanitarian aid. They weren't going to do anything because they felt like like we can't stop coney like the United States and military has to stop yeah and so they immediately they went back and they went and they put we can't stop them. I mean now we're friends 16:30 you know it'd be awkward. It'd be weird to be like I think also also you stop doing that chill. If you quit be pretty cool. If you stop doing that and so chisel is two thousand yeah. They actually went to Washington and we're you're doing all this. This is really two thousand like two thousand five to that six they're meeting with fo shizzle for real. They're meeting with congressman 16:55 and women in Washington and talking progressive of you, but with the congresswoman did not exist. They're meeting with them and they're telling them this story and they're meeting with condolence, a right and they're they're all shooting them down. They're like look yeah, they're like in we're not the military is not going to get involved in something that does not have anything to do with any of our political or financial interests as a nation like it's just not going to happen. Yeah, we're not 17:22 and that is like a tough thing about it's like we're not the world's hall monitors, you know, and so they they I don't know if they got this from someone in the government or a lawyer or counselor. If they just thought this, so was that the idea that they had people to call pretty much they're like. If you make this a big enough deal for the American people, then maybe we'll respond and do something about it. So they started an awareness campaign and so they they kept going back and kept filming these documentaries. 17:52 to bring awareness. so they could keep going back and making more documentaries. then the government takes action. the first spike for them was 2008. And in this documentary, 18:21 it opens there in a gym, a high school gym and they had just finished by the set was they just finished one of their assemblies telling the story and the kids a kid raises his hand. He's like he's like this is all good Jason, but like what are you going to do about this? How are you going to stop a war and the three of them turn around and they this is all good Jason, but how do you think a person like yourself? 18:49 strong, independent, entrepreneurial man who's handsome and stylish up with the current trends. Is this necessary? Do I have to say all this? How are you going to stop this? 19:05 And he's like, there's keep re. Oh, sorry. And your mom. 19:14 it was two thousand six. It's the kid real, I know the kid looks at him like what the are you serious? Did this to me, your mom joke in the middle of this, you cut that out heck, man, so the three of them him and his filmmaker friends in this video. I hope this one turn around choice. 19:54 the kids do. I look like Mr. Rachel today. My you for this hoodie for a lot of up. I know here's the thing. I'm still on the road. That's so yeah, that's true. I remember last time we shot an episode yeah, you went home that night. Yeah, imagine me not doing that. I haven't been home in a week, not doing that. Yeah, that's why you're so 20:18 so edgy. That's why I'm so mad dude. I'm literally in my own bed eight times this month. Well, this is a good episode for that. Then there's a there's a warning at the end of this episode here, the ravelin about my own bed. There's a warning at the end of this not about your own bed, but about your schedule. I do 20:35 okay, so the documentary opens on a school. So are we talking about the thirty minute thing that came out? No, no, no, no, no, okay, we're talking about this in two thousand and eight. It is in two thousand eight. There's a video it opens with their doing a school assembly. A kid goes, that's all great, but how do you plan on stopping this and they all three turn around over the camera? Yeah, and I'll go great question. Yeah, the one of the guys says to them he's like he's like that's actually a really good point. Like how are we going to stop the war and Jason the guy we saw turns around and goes 21:03 only you can prevent child war. No better. He says he's the same thing. We always do dance and it's basically high school musical. They do a dance number with a song that they wrote 21:21 wait and it's it's I actually school musical. I didn't know about and like like this lyric. We're on a mission to put you gonda deep inside your mind and so the idea was this good is such a it's very high school musicals. It's like on a mission not that high school musical, but like we're on a mission to put 21:49 Uganda deep inside your most to that it's close to they do the overhead claps. They have a full dance number like this is like highly produced. In fact, this is very first in a viral video. This wasn't their first attempt. This was like their fifth. This is one of their attempts at a viral video and it didn't go viral. It went semi route nothing to what is going to happen later, but it right. It did pop off 22:16 If you've been watching for a minute and you like this show, Our patrons get a ton of perks for their support. They get a discord with our hosts and producers. 22:27 We do monthly hangouts. We do. There's a way to get birthday messages on your birthday. There's a lot of great perks, but more than anything, you just help make sure that this show continues to happen forever. We never want to stop. We're going to keep doing this forever. If we have enough patron supporters, we can put our brains in those little vats and like have AI pretend it's us. And so like we can keep doing it long after we die, but that only happens if you support us on patreon. So we appreciate your support. Thanks for your help. If you don't want to support, that's totally fine. Thanks for being here. We really appreciate you watching the show. 23:00 I guess I should probably go study the two thousand twelve video and be like. Why did this hit so hard? Oh, it's clear it's okay clear, but the director of this video. This is my favorite part of this whole story is a college friends is a college friend of his. They went to school with this guy. I don't know if you know the name. I don't know if you know the name John M Chu. I don't know if you know that name. He's direct on the wicked director. Yes, 23:30 and also step up to step up three into the high, the rich Asians like same guy, same guy directed that and so those screenshots are pretty rough, but like it's actually like a really well produced. The song is incredibly catchy. Yeah, same thing. We always do dance and then it's them on a treadmills like five different treadmills 23:54 but yeah Jason, Jason is like close friends with John Chu. He actually officiated his wedding, which is wild, but well that makes me look different on people, but yeah he directed that film and so that film. Here's the thing. Here's the thing we got to recognize a little weird when you figure what they're trying to bring awareness to, but also this is two thousand and eight. This is the height of high school musical musicals were kind of 24:19 in a moment for a second there, especially high school style musicals. Yeah, this is also flash mob era. Yes, so like this was it was a good strategy, yeah and and it worked pretty well. Like it brought a lot of awareness. It brought some we make one of that stuff now, but that is what like worked online at that time. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like that conversation we had where I was making fun of alien in patron hang out 24:47 and who said it was it chunk light? Yeah said oh it you think it's cheesy, but at the time it wasn't cheesy like that's how everything that's cheesy works like yeah. You think it's cheesy looking back by the time it was cheesy. I'll tell you what's always been cheesy. It was what be referring to people by their discord user name. I watched part of the video of freaking 25:09 the years, youtuber goes by coffee, zilla yeah and he did the whole take down of the hawk to a coin and they're in the twitter space yeah and they're talking to each other about like you know hey, you might have just scammed millions of dollars from these investors. I would have to say for yourself and they're referring to each other by their freaking user names. When they're talking about millions of dollars on a scam, well cox each other, well doc neighbor, well and I'm like what is 25:40 how do we branding its branding? It's also it's also you don't want to dox them, especially for like twit streamers like what I mean docks them twist streamers. The people are calling the SWAT team on them like they've got to be careful with their real identities and stuff like that. That's why I haven't gone by my real name for years. 26:04 it's a thing. It's a thing that they they're really careful about it. They're really careful. Have you seen that video of kai where the guy? Who was it? It was the guy that does the does that game where you get the picture and you have to try to guess where it is geoguesser, geoguesser guy. They had him on stream, but he was like on the phone yeah and they were like see if you can guess where we are and all he had was the studio they were in and he figured it out. He started saying the coordinates to him and kai took the phone and just threw a card like smash it against the wall. I don't know who kai is 26:33 kai sannat or senates not. You don't know who that is. He's like one of the biggest streamers right now yeah, but that's also fake. You think so? Yes, because I've actually been talking about to my wife about how we can make her that probably is a bit. Yes, yeah, the stuff we could do to make my wife go viral as a twitch streamer is yeah. I mean, I guess that that would make more sense that that was a bit. I never even thought about that because yeah, the head, you don't even think about that. Well, no, I have thought about it. Who's a little 27:02 who's a little miss. He had Mr. Beast on your little Goblin aren't you Mr. Be a little Goblin on his studio on fire. Our streams from on fire, but they just build. They just don't build a set and catch a set and cut on fire. Yeah and I knew that I immediately knew that the phone smash thing. I was like for some reason I was just like oh that's real because it was smaller. It was smaller. Come interesting. That's a good point. You got got yeah. I got got so 27:31 anyways, so here's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to put your ganda in your mind yeah and so this this this was a decent success like yeah, a handful of celebrities found out about it sure. They started like promoting it. They got a decent influx of donors yeah and and there was more awareness, but it wasn't like donating to do what though to spread the word yeah. That's the idea. The idea is 28:01 enough people are going to find out about this. The government's going to take action for you to yeah be louder about this. Well in two thousand eight barack obama finds out about this and obama grants it and so he says we're going to send a hundred military advisors. They're going to train the ugandan military and give them tactics and plans and tell them what to do. They're not going to fight themselves, but they're going to basically be life coaches. 28:28 for the you can we're going to send some war coaches over so yeah. So they set the military over and spoiler alert. It was kind of a disaster yeah. They the military coached them. The Ugandan military went out to try to track them down, never managed to track them down, but a lot of civilians got caught in the car, but a lot of those you gone in military people came back and they were just like. I think we got caught in a time slip 28:57 We saw a small town that smelled like rotten pigs. 29:05 we heard the bell tower, there's a bell and just stop tolling. It was so weird yeah thinking of speaking of weird things that you see now it's two thousand and twelve. So you know weird things that you seen. What do you think about this? These new jersey drones, the one have you heard of this? No, I can't believe you haven't heard of this. Alex. Have you heard of this? Would you guys just live in a rocks or no? I heard of Jersey Mike's 29:37 This is New Jersey drones right now in New Jersey, in one of the suburbs of Philadelphia. So that end of New Jersey. There has been for about two weeks now, every single night, about a thousand sightings of these drones that they say are like car-sized drones. And what they're doing is they are like strafing. So they're going over and they're stopping, and then they're going back, and then they're going over, and then they're, and it's almost like they're like scanning or mapping something. 30:07 They're about the size of a small car, is what everyone says. Thousands of these reports are coming in every single night for the last two weeks. Any videos? We do have videos of them. They look, they have the flashing indicator lights. They're not like the four roto-copter drones. They look almost more like little airplanes. And they're going, they're strafing back and forth. The governor has been kind of raging about it because the government, like the federal government, hasn't been taking... 30:36 much like attention to this. What? So the White House addressed it yesterday. And the White House is like, hey, we don't know what these are. They're not ours. And they're not any of our adversaries. We don't know where they're coming from. But we don't think that they pose a threat to the public. 30:56 I can't believe you haven't heard of this. 31:00 Yeah, have you not? A congressman yesterday, I'm excited to tell you this, I'm really excited. 31:18 know a congressman yesterday said that it's Iran. Iran built a mothership and they have it what over the Atlantic Ocean and they're leaking these out every night. They're coming out of the mothership and and he's like it's Iran. The White House was asked in their press briefing and they're like yeah. He has no idea what he's talking about. That's what they said. They're like it's not Iran. They literally were like Iran is not even close to being able to do something like that. Yeah, I think it's definitely not I ran after what we did to him. 31:47 but yeah, they we have no idea what they are. A lot of people are saying they're aliens. There's a lot of there's a lot of the videos that you see that are kind of bogus. A lot of the videos you see of people who say they seeing them are like seeing planes that are like flying really high, but they're legitimate. They're legitimately are at least some of these that are genuine and being spotted and they're just like hovering over and they're hovering pretty low and no one knows what they are. It's very strange. This feels a lot like the balloon a couple years right now in the midwest. 32:15 well, that's kind of that's one of the things that people have been saying like like they're doing over New Jersey down some I tried in Montana. See what happens yeah. They shoot at him. Well, there are a legend and I don't know if these are legit, but I have seen videos of like f six teens like chasing them and there is one video where it's in the distance. It's hard to say whether or not it's legitimate or not. It's in the distance. There's the two f sixteen there's the drone and there is an explosion in the air and so 32:42 I don't know if they've actually shot one of these down. If that was legitimate or not, the government hasn't announced that they've done that, but that's crazy. It's a time this comes out. You'll know we know what it was. We know it attic the whole time. We know that it was the aliens. This was their first step in the well. I mean by the time it when does this come out January? This is coming out in February. It's so really yeah. This comes out February fourth and we're shooting this December twelve 33:07 so wow, time way behind yeah. We're way behind the times yeah, so you're going to you're probably listening to us talk about this and you're like those idiots and hey, the chiefs are in the Super Bowl, huh? 33:22 crazy again, most likely crazy and that last play, huh? You know, that crazy oh and that call of the end. I know I can't believe it either crazy. What do you think is going to be chief lines, chiefs, eagles, 33:40 I think it's chiefs all the way baby. Well, who's the other one chiefs? I think that's what's going to happen. I think they get so bored that there's like why don't you guys play yourselves all right? Don't you play yourself and the chiefs are like okay, just play second. He arson wins wins. What thoughts? What's crazy good? I don't know man, game and wins anyway. You win some, you lose some, you know so 34:09 the White House is like oh yeah, this pro program didn't work right. We try to train them. They didn't do it yeah and a lot of civilians got caught in the crossfire and so the White House quietly pulls their troops away quietly files away that they ever did that and they were like we weren't involved in that and invisible children keeps calling and it's like hey you guys were really close. You got to keep you can't stop like you got to keep going and like no we tried it. It didn't work. We're not going to do it again. Yeah, we never did that yeah. 34:36 they're like they're like we don't know what you're talking about yeah and they're like honestly, if you keep talking about that, you're not going to know what you're talking about either. Did you turn on vanish mode on our phone call all right, because I know I know that you did that and also why is my contact Mariah carry in your phone? That's how his tie is tied. He's like he's like listen here. I know you did that. I know that was you so for 35:06 three years after the thing, they are still trying to do this because they're like, okay, we were close, we gotta get them back. We gotta get the US government back over there because they need to finish Kony. And so they put together their documentary, Kony 2012. And so the plan here was, hey, 2012, an election year, a year where everyone's arguing, where there's a lot of division, we need something we can unite over, and that's taking down Joseph Kony. And so they put together a documentary. 35:35 It was a 30 minute documentary. And it was a tearjerker. They're trying to pull out your heartstrings, Questionably though, Jason and his son are definitely More so his son, which is a little odd, 36:02 which is a strange way to start a video that has never been. You're living in Uganda, this kid might kill me. Basically, that's like basically the whole point. There's a scene where his son, who's no older than six, probably younger than six, he shows him a picture of Kony and he's like, you know who this is? And then he tells him, he's like, this man kidnaps kids and he makes them kill their parents. And his kid, a six-year-old, is looking at him like, oh, so he's a bad guy? And like... 36:31 why don't the good guys stop on the right? Give us a six or hey look this guy makes this kids kill his parents and he goes 36:40 you can do that. Oh he wants me to kill my mom, your mom yeah, and so he and then he slides him a picture of as he doing this like a detective yeah, I'm a picture. I think the kids name was Jacob. If I remember it, I could be wrong. I don't remember for sure, but this is the first kid that he talked to 37:06 Jason did when he was out there. And the kid who's like, yeah, I watched my brother die in front of me. And they became like family friends. Like he was the kid they would always visit when they came out there. They flew him out to the States a couple of times. Like, so his son knew him and he's like, oh yeah, so this is our friend. And then this guy is hurting our friend and like showing him on the pictures on screen. And so it's this 30 minute documentary film and the film ends. 37:33 with this call to action basically of okay, you can go to this website and you can order your coney 2012 kit and in april this came out march eighth 2012 and in april i think it was four twenty overnight we're gonna everyone's gonna go to bed and we're gonna stay out all night and we're gonna use our kids which are the town yeah are full of these posters and we're gonna make coney famous because there's a scene in that documentary where one of the locals says if coney was famous in the west 38:03 then he would not have the power he has. The West doesn't know about him, and so Kony doesn't, is, is, is able to do everything he does. And so he's like, we're going to make Kony famous, is the whole point of the documentary. And so you get your kit, you put on your shirts, and then they're going to go paper the town with these things. You're going to wear your bracelets, you're going to put on the, you're going to put the stuff on the, on all the buildings and stuff like that. And everyone's going to know who Kony is. 38:31 right. So they put this out on YouTube and it's important to remember. This is 2012. This is YouTube before the algorithm. This is YouTube in a very early state of YouTube. A lot of the videos were like word of mouth. You're manually sharing them. Facebook was still like the main platform and so over the first night it does pretty well, but not like huge. I think it was like six hundred thousand right somehow 38:58 that next day, it was March fifth when it came out and it was on the graphic. You just showed yeah okay, March fifth, so on the neck the next day somehow Oprah sees it and so Oprah tweets it and tweets the link to it. By that evening, it has nine million views. Yeah, by the end of the week, it has a hundred million views right. It is at that time the most viral video of all time right. There was there was never anything that had done anything anywhere remotely similar to that level right viral. So is Oprah 39:29 yeah Oprah, Oprah tweeted it big. Oh, if you see this 39:35 we need you to help us get the podcast and that's interesting. I think there's a there's a good point and so they said in the video that their plan, their strategy and this and this was twenty twelve so this was right twenty twelve pretty ground breaking to have this strategy. Nowadays everyone and their mom would have this strategy but the strategy was they were going to put together twelve. They called them twelve culture makers and twelve 40:03 policymakers and they were going to use the influence of those of those culture makers to influence the policy makers to take action. So the culture makers, here's a handful of them just to kind of give you a list of who they were targeting. They actually showed these people in the video. Like here's the people we're targeting. And so if you follow them or have any connection to them, share this with them so that way they get the word of them. So Oprah was like number one on the list. And so... 40:30 I believe the way it happened is all of Oprah's fans. Some of our fans saw this and they kept retweeting and tagging her and they're like Oprah. Watch this, watch this, watch this, just like fine and so which wouldn't work on me by the way. I need you to know that right now. If anybody try if you like a hundred people suddenly just sent me some video yeah. There's no way I'm going to repost it just so you know. 40:51 so the list of people that they I don't care if it's a literal video of how to cure cancer. It's like somehow I got put out on the stem feed on tick tock. All right, I'm not retweeting that listen to this list of taste makers, Oprah, Justin Bieber, obviously two thousand twelve, we guess. Oh, I was going to say that's who I was going to get. That's going to guess Justin Bieber, Taylor Swift, Beyonce, the answer is not on the list actually, which is kind of surprising. It's twelve people, so Oprah 41:20 Justin is actually a lot more than twelve people. They said twelve, but this is way more than twelve. I'm looking at this list. This is like twenty oh twenty taste makers, twelve policy makers got it. Okay, I'm going twenty twelve. Yeah, that's the plan and so the other taste makers on the list, Angelina, Jolie, Lady Gaga, Jay-Z, Rihanna and then here's where as Bono's on it. Yeah, here's where the list gets all really, really fun. I'm excited about the rest of this list, Tim Tebow, 41:48 Oh man, two thousand and twelve was a fever dream. Oh my gosh, Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg. Yeah, I love this group, so they were like this. This group of people, oh Bill O'Reilly, Rush Limbaugh, 42:12 yikes. So they're like this group rush limbaugh gets on the radio with a cigar right and he's like honestly. I don't even think that what you got is doing that bad. We should do it here, so I take out the kill in the parents party's raising young men to do good to have a purpose. Like if we get this group of people to put pressure on this group of people, they put them right in boss say about this. I want to know that's a good question. I need to look up 42:38 my grandma used to leave rush limba on the radio yeah, when she would leave her house, you're not listening to me right now. I'm listening to you because she would leave the radio on so that if someone broke in, they would hear the voice and think someone was home and it was rush limba and it was like is what does rush limba, rush limba's house, 43:00 but yeah, the policy makers that they were targeting were this guy's grandma dating rush. I think my friend's grand was dating rush limba. I don't know she's she's always talking to him in the bedroom, so the list of policy makers that they had yeah George Bush, Bill Clinton, Connolly, so rice, George W. W. W. John Carey, Mitt Romney and so like this group of people 43:28 John McCain, they were like like Rush Limbaugh is going to pressure George W Bush into taking action, which honestly yes could work would have worked Angelina, Jolie and Justin Bieber are going to make Bill Clinton take action in Uganda was the plan and honestly what they plan to do is what happened. Oprah found out about it retweeted it all these celebrities in this list. 43:55 found out about it and they all started retweeting. Well, yeah, because after one of them doesn't, it's kind of like how we can't be the guy who doesn't. Yeah, I can't be the one who's like I'm not going to say something about this only is like whoa he was you got an army of forty two kids. I have fifty three and so this goes mega viral. Everyone's talking about it. A lot of people by the kits and a lot of people are like why do I get him a kid? Yeah, a lot of people are sharing it online. One of the most 44:21 It's ironic you said this earlier, but one of the things you see people say all the time on Facebook when they're tagging this, they're like, it's pretty long, but if you've got the time to watch this video, you should. And honestly, after watching this video yesterday, like it's so clear why this worked so well in 2012. Like this is everything 2012 was. The songs are Mumford and Sungs, Mumford and Sungs, and then like the... 44:47 the bokeh effects and the transitions, everything is just so 2012 coded the whole time. This clearly crushed them. They knew exactly what they were doing and how to do it really well and it obviously worked very, very well. So this blows up, blows up and he all of a sudden is getting every major network is like, we want to interview you, we want to talk to you. And so he's getting pressed toward all over the place. He's flying between New York and LA three times a day. 45:16 like just boom boom boom boom boom taking the red eye going back. I'm not exaggerating. I know you're. I know you got that wink, but he genuinely is. He'll do an interview in L. A. Morning. He'll do an interview in L. A. In the morning, go do one in New York, flies back over the red eye, does another one. So I mean, I guess I guess in that second trip he's ending up overnight. I was like, oh, I think you know how much time it takes to get to L. A. Dude, so but he's not sleeping. The point is he's never sleeping. He's just 45:43 shimmying back and forth between places and doing these interviews and hi. At first, I am happy to be here on Nick at night, Rush Limbaugh, yeah, you know the video that is radio. He'd be like hi rush. I'm planning on keep my eyes closed for this. Is that okay? If I just close my eyes, is it cool if I sleep for this interview? How do we make this a conspiracy theory? 46:13 and so Alex Jones actually does talk about it on his podcast, how because he wanted in on it. Yeah, he was so mad. He wasn't mentioned as one of the exactly why not a case maker. You were twenty one on the list Alex. Yeah, you were so close, so close, so close, and so he's doing this press tour for four or five days and then all of a sudden the press pendulums back against him and so yeah 46:41 it changes from like oh my gosh, we got to stop coney to wait a second. Why are you capitalizing well? Well, what happens is they show this documentary in uganda and at the showing of it, there's press there filming them. They're like they're like look what we're doing like the press flew out. They showed the document like look what we're doing in you got it and all these people came to watch it and the people watching it like turned into a mob and they started throwing rocks at the screen. 47:09 and they were like, this is not accurate at all. And so then like the press started interviewing them and they're like, Coney's been gone for six years. Like he's not even in Uganda anymore. He's in the next country over. We pushed him out. And they were like, this is acting like stuff is happening here that's not happening here. It was a long time ago and it's probably happening in this other country he's at now, but it's not happening here. And they're acting like stuff is happening that's not true. And also, 47:37 who are you to get involved? Like this is our country. Like what do you think is going on here? Yeah and so people see this and then this is and I don't know for sure, but I have seen some commentators talk about this and they think that this is the moment when the white savior complex got defined. Yes, because when you look at those earlier pictures, there's like the one where he's standing in the you know exactly what I'm talking about, right? 48:03 yeah. It was we suji pulled that up yep. I was like that is the white savior photo and I mean if you watch the video, the whole video like and like honestly, if you go far enough back on some of our social media, you could you probably find it. I mean this you could see we were super involved in evangelical culture. This is like we went on missions trips and used kids as props yeah and that 48:28 That was that wasn't the intention in our brain for sure, but that's what that's what people would do. Yeah, and if you watch the if you watch the documentary to the documentary is definitely I mean they tell the story and I think that they were earnest. I think that they genuinely cared. I think they genuinely wanted to stop Coney and they genuinely cared about the kids, but if you watched the documentary, it very much felt like we're going to do it. Like there's moments where you act. They actually say like, oh, what if we die on this trip? 48:57 And they're like, well, at least this is what I'm remembered for. It's like, this is my memory. I don't think that's their intention, but that's what happened. and it kind of blows up in their face. 49:20 And so now he's still in this press tour. doing all these interviews. tell us how we can get involved, How much is going to your travel? 49:49 making a joke. This is a joke and he came out saying it was a joke and honestly if you watch the video it's very clear it's a joke but it's on camera of him. They won an award for one of their early documentaries and that award came with a million dollar donation to their charity. He's like thank you for a million dollars and in that video he's got his glasses on and they're tilted really awkward and he's got a bottle of vodka and he's like he's like he's like he's like I don't know if you know this he's like but we just won a million dollars and he's like he's like ninety thousand of that 50:17 we'll cover everything that we need to do the rest of it. I think you know what I'm going to do with it and it's like should it up with that video bro, like why did you just sound like the kid from wild thorn berries should have been a video bro. 50:40 Hey, thanks for checking out this episode. Want to let you know real quick. We have an email list and it's not like a hey, we're going to send you our merch and new episodes all the time. We actually give you updates on these stories as we find out about them. So a lot of our episodes we've done a couple years ago now have updates or the person the top was about passed away or was caught by the police or whatever updates we can find on episodes that we've done. We want to let you know about it so that our episodes just aren't 51:08 you know out there out of date. It's really fun way to keep learning new information and then every once in a while we let you know about new events coming up or new episodes and it's just a way to help us keep spreading the show. Join that email list. You can text till into six six eight six six or there's a link in the description of this episode or you can just go to till and dot com. It's very easy to join this email list. It's everywhere. It's actually really hard to not join it so 51:40 poor taste and so they dug out that video. They're showing obvious everywhere. They're like hey, you're on no sleep. He's like hey, thanks for having me on the news and they're like great. Here's a video. Well, what do you think about that? Oh, I didn't know he did. I would love for that to be invisible. That this simple. Can we please tell George Bush to take that video away? 52:07 that is a doctored video and if you look at it closer, the shadows don't line up yeah and the there are rats yeah yeah in the video yeah so rats in the and further proof tim just doesn't listen when I talk and I was like there's RASMUSSY. Yep, there's a rastra process slowly and and here's the thing. This is today. I'm going to be honest with you. 52:37 this looking back on these interviews. This was bad, but how every interview is point. He's got to be mid thirties yeah, because I'm much older than we. This is this is him at the time. This is this is when Coney, twelve, not much older than we are, but here's the deal. He was from San Diego. He's got a San Diego accent. You know what that sounds like yeah he 53:02 You go back through his profile, he dresses like this. He was a theater kid, so he's very animated, the way he talks. where point blank, the people interviewing, there's rumors that you're gay. 53:32 that became in 2012 kind of a scandal about it, which is pretty crazy when you think about it because that's not that long ago, but it was like enough to like start to discredit. And he's like, no, he's like, I've heard the rumors. That's not true. He's like, my parents owned a children's theater troupe. I was a theater kid. I'm a little animated. I like to dye my hair blonde. I'm from San Diego. Yeah. 53:57 but it became a scandal. It became and so there was all these different things that were becoming like fairly big issues for invisible children. This is why you never try to make a change in the world kind of and so it all culminates in a moment where he's been doing this for about three weeks, taking red eye flights back and forth between L. A. And New York, they about halfway through that they turned and they started 54:23 turning on him and the public started turning on him. Facebook is turning on him and he's having to like defend himself in a public forum that he's never really been in. Like he has a hundred million views at that time. The whole world knows. Yeah, everyone's seen this. This is not like a hundred million views now. This is a different time. And so he can't go out in public. People are harassing him in public. And so they decide, the organization decides, hey, 54:50 You're going to take a staycation. You're going to stay home. You're not going to go anywhere. You're going to be in your house for a week. You're going to rest. You're going to spend time with your family so you can come back healthy and ready to continue working on this. Because right now, you can't keep doing what you're doing right now. So he goes on the staycation. And a couple days into the staycation, him and his son and his wife and, I think, his parents were there. They were watching the Lorax. And he recounts that while they're watching the Lorax, 55:20 In the middle of the movie, if you don't know what the Lorax is about, the Lorax, there's a corporation that's tearing down all the trees, and he's fighting back against this evil corporation. And in the middle of that movie, he recounts a moment where Danny DeVito turns from the screen and addresses him directly and says, hey, you need to stop, Joseph Kony. You can't, you're sitting around, you're waiting here, you need to go finish what you started. And so he has a psychotic break, is what this is. 55:50 and he stands up in the middle of this movie with his family at home, takes all of his clothes off, runs outside, and is running around outside his house, screaming profanities, slapping the pavement, butt naked, and someone captures a video of this, and they sell it to TMZ for $30,000, and TMZ puts it out. 56:13 and now it's a giant oh wow and so he the police come. They don't arrest him or anything. They take him to a hospital did not know this. Yeah isn't that crazy, so they check him in and a in a day, the veto to be clear in the middle of the lorax movie day, the veto goes Jason. You need to stop Joseph Coney. Yeah, yeah, 56:40 I mean he doesn't actually do that. It was just in Jason's brain, but that's what Jason remembers and then Jason was like you're right. Let me take off all my clothes and go outside and that's what happens. The police pick them up, they check them into a hospital and it's it's a bad experience in the hospital. He thinks that he thinks his clothes and a killing me from stop in Coney yeah and so it's a bad experience in the hospital. He thinks the nurses are trying to kill him. He's like wrestling everyone in the hospital. It's a very like he's there for weeks 57:10 and it's a very intense thing. Yeah, a full, full breakdown. Wow. This hits the press. It gets really nasty. They start making up a bunch of stuff about what he was doing outside. You could probably start to assume the fact that he's naked, and with the scandals that they already had about him, why he was doing that, and the motivations, and stuff like that. So it became a giant thing. And so this is all before that date where they were supposed to paint the towns. And so then, 57:38 He is in the mental hospital when the date rolls around and all these places all over the world had had forms and sign ups where you could sign up to be part of your local group that was going to do it and they all had like sixty thousand, a hundred thousand, fifty thousand people who were supposed to show up and put up these signs and stuff like this. Tons of people bought them, but the majority of them had fractions of what yeah signed up because now it's become kind of a. I remember that so I remember and this is funny because we were on 58:08 a it was state finals for our theater stuff that we were doing that weekend yeah, and so we were in Columbia, Missouri, which is a college town yeah, and there was a couple of people in our theater group who were very passionate about this yeah, but I I don't remember us even talking about hey, this guy's having a breakdown yeah yeah, you know yeah not. I don't think a lot of people knew about I mean and that's like the effects of social media in the internet yeah. 58:37 is like even if we assume his motivations are pure yeah. Let's just assume for a second. Let's put like let's just go for a second that his motivations were one hundred percent clean and pure. Yeah, the internet does what the internet does yep and that's crazy. Yeah, there's a I think it was a Ted talk as a speech online. I think it was a Ted talk, but where he kind of recounts the whole story and then he talks about it and he says he says I'm not exaggerating when I say I was getting ten texts a minute of yeah like 59:06 and that was when Twitter would text you and so of just people just like berating him yeah and my con his family in a question calling his motivations in the question. I remember so like earlier this year. The beginning of this year is when we put up that that cat ramp on our back porch yeah yeah and so we posted a video that video got a hundred and fifty million views, which is just different from a hundred million views back then right, but it's still a lot of you still a lot yeah and the the amount of comments that we got about how 59:35 we're torturing our cat and we're you know, we're terrible people for for. You know, if why are you torturing this animal by keeping it locked in your house? All this stuff? I remember a moment, you know, probably two weeks after the video had had been circulating where, you know, I was in the kitchen with ray and we were just kind of like a little like in each other's way or whatever and I said hey, you've been reading the comment section on that video yeah and she was like yeah, because I would hear her. I would hear it playing in the other room. Yeah, I would hear the beginning of that video 01:00:04 and it was just like a hey, just us reading those comments has made it really tense in this house and like we're just getting edgy with each other, yeah, and so I think we just need to not stop reading us. You know because obviously we care about our pets. We care about our we're not bad. Why you did it? We're not yeah yeah, but like we're reading thousands of comments and that was just over like literally 01:00:27 something pretty done really nothing. It's literally nothing yeah yeah yeah we're not trying to stop a warmonger guy in Uganda yeah yeah yeah yeah so I can't you know I can't imagine the hate yeah from Missouri that that guy for real though yeah obviously it got really bad. The internet has this full on breakdown and it's just bombarding. 01:00:50 Oh yeah, and they were questions like somebody for sure questions of like the financial motivations, questions of his sexuality, questions of like the white save a bit of it. You couldn't it picked apart yeah every single part of him was getting thrown away and like that's what's crazy is like at this point they had been doing this for like ten years yeah, and so it's like he's committed a great portion of his life to trying to solve this problem and yeah and it's totally blowing up in his and then to have it 01:01:19 three weeks. This is all unravelling yes, yeah and so he's he's in the hospital when this overnight thing happens and a fraction of everyone who said they were going to show up shows up, but a bunch people do show up and they start putting these signs up. On the other hand, a bunch of people show up and they saw it as an opportunity to just vandalize and so a bunch of people went out with spray paint and actual paint and started writing Coney 2012 on stuff and breaking things and it turned into like this 01:01:49 mass vandalism event more than it was like a put the poster up. It was a I'm going to spray paint something because I can. And so that that event was even more of a scandal. And all of that kind of culminated in a moment where everyone was almost ashamed to have been involved in it. Because it it it brought a lot of awareness. It did make Coney famous but at the end of the day the government was like I'm still not sending any troops out there. 01:02:18 and it kind of crippled, there's an irony to it. Invisible Children got like kind of crippled in scandal, but they did bring in $27 million in donations. So they were able to make a lot more documentaries because it's really all they were doing. They pivoted after this, they had Jason step down, and so Jason stepped down, Invisible Children pivoted to doing some more grassroots stuff, and so they started, they built a radio network 01:02:48 at the front lines of the war. The radio network was basically a first alert system, where it's like, hey, he's on the move over here, hide your children and get away from what's happening here. They set up a training system for some of their soldiers and all this different stuff. So they started doing some more actual on the ground grassroots things. But at the end of the day, Coney is still out there today. He's still alive today and he's still operating. 01:03:18 How many did they have in his arm right now? I don't know where right now. I don't know where estimates are right now. They think he's in Sedan right now, but they don't know for sure he's been kind of on the run ever since twenty twelve right, because now he's famous and now a bunch of people. I shouldn't say a bunch of people. There have been some events where like mercenary types have gone out and try to track him down like lone wolf style, but there hasn't been a government that has latched onto this to respond 01:03:50 the interest two more really interesting things that have happened out of this one. The International Criminal Court was established. I believe in the nineties Joseph Coney was the first person on their list that they wanted to get for crimes against humanity. The lead prosecutor in over the whole criminal court thing, the International Criminal Court, he he put together a plan on how he was going to get him and his plan 01:04:19 and this is a plan that wasn't just like a I have this. I put a kid with a rope around his waist and then he's going to have two adults saying so and that kids is going to be like. I love you mom and dad. As soon as coney pops his little head out of the woods, he's going to yank the kid back and they're going to get him kind of close honestly in terms of like strategy. 01:04:40 this and I should be clear. This wasn't like an idea he had. This was something he fleshed out. This was something he planned. He had conversations with all of the individuals in these children. Yeah, that when they got took, they were in kill Coney close. It's not close at all. So what he was going to do is he was going to work with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie was going to slide into Joseph Coney's DMS and say hey Brad and I would love to get your dinner with you and I'm dead serious. 01:05:08 Brad and I would love to get dinner with you were flying out tomorrow and so they would fly out and they would be bait for Coney and so Coney would get dinner with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie and then the International Criminal Court would come in through the back door and arrest him. So they have to have dinner with the guy. Yeah 01:05:30 and this was a thing that Angelina, Jolie and Brad Pitt flew, flew across the ocean agreed to and met with this guy and how were a part of this plan and after this all came out, they met with him, they met with him and Angelina Jolie in an interview on the red carpet when this came out. She was like was kind of cool. She was like she's like I would love to be used as bait to get Coney. She said that she said that on a red carpet interview when it came out that that was the plan and when 01:05:57 when that fell apart and they realized that wasn't going to work. The second plan that he came up with was using George Clooney, but we say we wait. They went through with it though they did have dinner with Coney. They didn't have dinner. They flew over to the and they had dinner with the International Criminal Court. I was like what do you yeah, so they didn't actually have the dinner yet. I have the but they I thought you were like yeah. They had dinner with Coney and then like something fell apart like the back door was like back to a slap. 01:06:19 and like and then they kept song to they were at dinner. I was like I guess we'll get dessert again at dinner and Brad texted him and he said a board a board a board. This guy's really cool. We want to be like a lot. We actually like we love. They really like this. That's why they divorce bro is because Brad Pitt fell in love with Joseph Coney. Did you know that I bet you didn't know that left Angelina Jolie for Joseph Coney. Put that on the news 01:06:48 not enough people talk about that. I don't know people talk about. I don't have people know that, but yeah when when that fell apart that he was like this guy's kind of hot this guy's kind of hot dude. When that didn't work, the international criminal well, it's not. I'm not in love with Joseph Coney. I don't want to make see my not a fan. I'm in love with one of the personalities that resides inside Joseph Coney. She's pretty cool 01:07:16 it's the profit, the profit lives forever. The profit will never die. No, but when that didn't work out, the international criminal court came up with a second plan. The second plan was george cluny. I guess george cluny built a satellite in the early twenty tens and was you was like letting other governments use it to spy on nations and this is a real thing. 01:07:41 and so I was Matt Damon. They were just going to go through the Oceans Eleven cast. They were like which one will do it, but George Clooney said his satellite wasn't powerful enough for that, which is interesting. The lie yeah. That's what you say when you don't want to go. Yeah, that's why when someone was like hey, what you were coming to my Christmas party, I'm like yeah, what's your address and like? Oh, it's this and I go all I'll look it up on maps yeah and I go oh sorry maps can't find it. My satellite's not strong 01:08:12 I didn't pay for premium satellite. I don't have satellite premium. We still recording right now. Yeah, we are more time we got. I would. I'm trying to get through everything. Why do you keep asking sorry ring ring ring ring? Hello yeah. Oh my God, I hate this guy. This guy stinks come back 01:08:40 I know you're on the phone. It doesn't, come back. He's over here going, come on, just in case you do the thing. He doesn't, there's no phone. I want to be clear that when I do this, I'm not saying, oh, he's holding, he's got his hand like this. I don't know what he's doing and he's going like this. He's pretending, oh my gosh. Come back over here. Yeah. 01:09:10 Yeah. 01:09:16 cool. You're the worst. Well, I know I hope I never forget you. 01:09:22 I hope I never forget you to the Allstate Salesman. It's a crazy way to go. 01:09:29 No, so a guy by the name, a guy whose name rhymes with Harley Mean Steam reached out Kanye West and he was like he's like hey, I'd like to change the rules. Harvey Weinstein reached out to him yeah, reached out to a Coney, no to Jason, oh when this was like first came out and he was I was like hey, what's the what's the award show for movies? 01:09:56 Oscars, the Tonys, no Tonys, Oscar's Oscars, Golden, yes Oscar. I always mix them up Oscars. He's like he's like he's like hey, I want to change. I'm going to change the rules for Oscars. That way you guys qualify this year because he was so moved by Oscars or the movies Golden Globes or TV. Tony is Broadway, music, holes and then an emi is TV news, Emmys or news right Golden Globes. Oh shoot 01:10:26 I'm all mixed up right now. Yeah, I can't tell you me calling love anyway, but so they're basically whatever he had control over. He's like we're changing the rules so that way you can get one of them this year for your play for your video for your YouTube video and then once you turn into a Broadway musical, you can get the Tony and eventually a pride. Promise you Jason. I know you had a mental breakdown. You got naked in your front yard and also pull that picture back up with him naked in his front yard again. Yeah, hold on 01:10:54 this is a pretty nice house, so we know that you already are financially set for life because of this man, but we're going to make sure you get an e got it. He got a way. I was one of each of them golden globe yeah Oscar and a Tony Oscar. Did we say Oscar? Yep, what's the music one? I that's why I was trying to figure. I think that might be golden globe. No, it's no 01:11:19 Grammy, that's what I'm thinking. We keep saying Golden Globes were stupid. Yeah Golden Globes, the old Grammy. That's what I was thinking of yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I was like when we got to Amy, I was like no, the music one is a Grammy. Yeah, interesting but yeah, so doesn't make sense because the Grammy should be for the old. That's what I call my grandma. They should yeah. They should think about in using that should be music. That's what I call him and him 01:11:49 Yeah, so the ring ring today. Oh no, sorry, no, I'm busy. Hey, I'm not done yet. This is this is another important thing that we need to cover. We've been doing this for a long time and we need to hurry up and read this Germany invade France in what year 01:12:16 all right. That's wrong. Did you just get a call from you in the past in our episode where is doing the ring ring? Hello oh they hung up probably a phone sales salesman yeah. Tried to sell me a phone. I didn't realize I had a phone when he called on someone's calling me ring ring 01:12:35 I hate this bit so much. This is the way it's so hard to do the code. I can't move around and my pinkies in the way on this phone. Also, I hate you finish the episode. Okay, I'm trying you just keep doing whatever this phone bit when I do bits you got to push through. I try I'm trying okay, so ring ring keep go go go. You do you know though 01:13:03 wrap up the show. I'm tired of being here I'm against. I'm held here against my will. Okay, does the does the name per go. Here's the good thing about Evgeny, Victor Avich, Pergo, Per Pergo, Gojan. Yeah. Does that name mean anything to you? Yes, but I don't remember why 01:13:29 So that you might remember him. He was the military leader of the Wagner group, which was like a or I guess Wagner group is what they say. Yes, because then they just did the the whole. Yes, yeah, they just to do a coup to overthrow the Russian government and that got put down and he was put to death because of it. Well, died in a plane crash, but yeah the they were this is like a contract military group. Yes, that the Russian yeah, the Russian Millet 01:13:58 I guess I should just say the Kremlin was like hey, we're going to let you kind of come kind of like Apple where Apple was like hey, we're going to put the two teams against each other and whichever one does better is going to get to release their product. Then when everyone loses, we're going to kill in a plane crash. Yeah, that's that's what the Wagner group got to be with the Russian military in Ukraine. They didn't like the decisions that the Kremlin was making, so they tried to overthrow Putin last year and it ended in him dying in a plane crash. 01:14:26 And then obviously that group was expelled from the war. And so they're like, what are we going to do now? And they decided they're going to go get Kony. So now that group is in South Sudan trying to find Kony. And so they're running through the jungle, chasing him down. So they might, so far out of anyone who's tried, they're the most organized group who's gone in there with like actual military force to try to stop him. 01:14:55 so there's a chance that they might actually succeed at catching coney all these years later, twelve years after coney twenty twelve, so pretty soon we might be saying coney twenty twenty four and because that's the year he died. If it happens in the next couple days, yeah, I was going to say this. It was or comes out in twenty twenty five, so I be saying cut in twenty twenty five as your death, unless we might be saying twenty twenty twenty five. That's what you just said play it back. I be saying cut in twenty twenty five twenty, twenty five. That's what I said 01:15:25 No, you said twenty, twenty, twenty five, twenty, twenty, twenty five, go to twenty, twenty five. Here's the good thing about all this. Yeah, is that time the internet like we'll always have a main character. Yeah, there's always a main character of the day on the internet yeah and some people really stretch that fifteen minutes out. You know, really kind of make their whole thing or whatever, but we you will always be forgotten. 01:15:48 always always always be forgotten. So if you're ever the target of some cyber bullying or you have a weird interaction online and you're like oh, I feel really weird about that and this person probably thinks about it. They don't we literally like Jason. What was his last name exactly? We don't remember it. He ran naked in his front yard and was on TMZ and so that's what I'm saying is that like there, the time will weather that out yeah yeah. 01:16:16 Yeah, I'm just saying that before my video gets leaked. I'm letting you know that just give me ten years. I'll be back doing a podcast. All right, yeah, yeah, that's you're. You're absolutely right. I mean he's turned. I shouldn't say turned his life around like he had his his incident, but since then, like he obviously left his role in an invisible children, but he's just kind of moved on. I think he works in like marketing now, which 01:16:45 I think is probably going pretty well. Like he clearly knows a lot about marketing right and and I and I think I worked with the Coney, 2020, twelve team and they're like really? That was a whole disaster. The founder of that company. He's a yeah, it was crazy. It was wild. It was a lot of that guy's back porch. I had to put him down. Yeah, I mean of course he's working in marketing and he's like yeah. I just I did. I worked on the Coney, twenty twelve team and I got rid of the guy. I'm like yeah, yeah, look like him. No 01:17:13 No, no, that's rude that you say that yeah, because that guy's pretty ugly. I hated him. That guy didn't have a beard. Look at look at my beard. Yeah, I look like the boyfriend, the existing boyfriend, a hallmark, a hallmark movie that's like this is the face he made to when he realizes that his girlfriend just left him for that business guy that comes from a telling anyway. I thought we were in love and then you know 01:17:39 because it's a Hallmark movie. There's the Carol the Bells, there's people singing songs and there's the fiddle off and all that there you go. 01:17:53 Hey, if you like this episode, you might like this man. 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