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00:00 Hey man, what's up? Have you ever heard of the yellow deli? 00:07 I love this because here's what happened. I did a stand up show in New York, all right, not New York City. There's a lot. There's other places in New York. I was in One on New York. I did a college show and you know college shows. Honestly, here's what happens. Sometimes college shows they promote them well and there's like a thousand kids there. Most times it's just the student activity board because they don't know how to promote stuff, so it's you and eight kids, but you get paid the same either way, which is sick. Yeah, that's cool. I've actually done a couple college shows where I've shown 00:37 up. No students showed up except for the activities board and they were like hey, so like you just want to hang out with us, we'll still pay you and I literally just out and didn't have to do the show. Yeah, it's good life. So you know, so I mean only out in New York, I do the show during the show. I said hey, where do you guys like to eat? Yeah, and this girl says, well, we love the yellow deli and another kid goes, well, yeah, I mean, but that's a cult. 01:03 and I was like what and all the kids were like yeah, I said yeah, just yeah that you mean it's a cold yellow deli is a cult yeah and I'm so excited for this episode now yeah yeah except for we're probably not talking about he just did it. 01:23 I shouldn't be excited about anything this called does, but that is cool. Should we go get sleepy yellow? I got sleepy yellow. uh I do think we should try to make a field trip or something. Yeah, that would be worth it. Things I learned last night. 01:53 So where do want to start? Do we want to talk about their menu items first? I would like to talk about, I would like to talk about the yellow deli restaurant first. Okay, well I I like really research the restaurant that much. Okay, so maybe you tell me a little bit about the food. Okay, no, no, I'll tell you then the restaurant. First of all, they like they don't do coffee. They don't do like caffeine. They do weird teas, which are really good actually, but they're there. Is this like, let me ask you, is this what the one you to look like? 02:20 because what I've noticed looking at different locations online is there are locations that look like normal delis okay, but then there are locations that look like this. Yes, this is an inside what I went to yeah and then inside it's like a casa bonita but amish okay. That's what I'm saying. All the insides look like this. It's like um it's almost like a hobbit village. Yeah inside like it's really the decor is great. It's all handmade stuff like it's all very 02:49 you know what Amish does? It has those vibes and everyone working there dresses like those kind of vibes as well. They dress like they're in clothes that they made yeah right and everyone everyone there's very friendly. The food is like sandwiches, soups, very good, very good sandwiches actually and like it's it's a place that's open twenty four hours interesting and so for a deli yeah well there and look at all their locations. They are in or near colleges. They're in college towns. Yeah, 03:19 And so they're trying to be uh a hangout spot, a study spot, because what they want, and I didn't know this till later, they want to find college students studying alone so they can go strike up conversation and then lure them into the cult. But the actual sandwich, it's like a real place, like you can just go and it's not a bad thing. It's really good and wonderful and great. We love them. 03:48 amazing and you should try it. You should go? We don't recommend going. ah You should go. 04:01 So the yellow deli actually was founded. Oh God, I hate whatever this face bit thing is going on right now. ah The yellow deli was founded in nineteen seventy two by a guy named Jean sprigs. Here's what he looks like. I bet you can't guess. Take a guess. Just think about it. Imagine a gene sprigs from nineteen seventy two founded the yellow deli. I see my dreams every night. Yeah, he probably looks like a white smurf. uh 04:32 He looks like it's literally pop a smurf without the blue, but a white guy. uh 04:39 he's got little Santa glasses on for people listening. He does look like Santa in the off season to yeah, it's a shorter beard, the longer white hair and in the summer and then a little bit more fit. He stops eating the cookie and goes and jogs a little bit. He does have those tiny little Santa glasses that Santa has and he does have the rosy red cheeks. They're kind of he really does do the San. It looks like Santa's brother the winner, Santa's brother is like a Santa's brother, Jean 05:07 who runs a sandwich called yeah. My brother is known around the world, so bring in presence to kids, so I just make sandwiches and try to get kids into my cult right. So it started in nineteen win nineteen seventy two seventy two yeah and it's a very hippie movement. Yeah, I have a mug I bought from there. Yes, I loved it. I was like wait. This is crazy. I love that this is a cult and so I bought the mug. ah You don't know that it's on my desk. It's like funny 05:35 it's like funny because I'm like supporting an organization that suppresses women and like doesn't let their kids learn how to read. What are you looking at for? I bought the mug every morning. I prayed a gene dear je don't call him dear gene. uh That's what you say. When you pray you say dear you don't call him dear je 05:59 I'm calling dear Jean L. Why would I say dear Jean dear Jean? Why I say that help me change Briggs? Ah, jean, jean, 06:15 Yeah, we're to do that. That's unfortunately going to be in my vernacular for a while. Jean Spreegs, Spratt, Jean Spreegs. All right, I like that a lot. So in nineteen seventies is very hippy movement. That's what it feels like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the vibes of the restaurant are like that as well. So Jean Spreegs was a member of the Jesus movement, which if you don't know a lot about the Jesus movement, that's how we ended up getting 06:41 what would people think if they knew that I'm a Jesus freak off? ah I've been teaching my son rhythm and Jaren is is mean about it. Oh yeah, he teaches his kid. He pulls it. He puts his kill on the floor and goes no. First of all, I put my kid on the floor and then I play Ohio is for lovers by author nice and I sit there and I drum on his shoulders 07:11 and I sing to my two month old baby, cut my wrists and bite my eyes. Which feels a little weird, but he needs to know the classics. But Tim, Tim, cause Tim's like, I'm teaching him rhythm and I keep trying to tell him like, Tim, that's not, like that's a genetic trait. That's not something. No, you can brain map that. Everything you can. You brain map rhythm. can, everything right now you're doing, you're brain mapping their brain to things. And so right now at this specific moment in their life, you can teach them. 07:40 And I will say, he does seem like he's picking it up because we'll be playing songs and then he'll start kicking his leg. that's why whenever I met him last week, I leaned in and I said, shareholder value matters. 07:53 Maximize the profit margins. 07:57 cut the labor cost. 08:00 I'm going to turn him into a greed goblin, a great goblin. Oh my god, gold on the other side of the rainbow. Check your coin base portfolio. I set one up for you. You're welcome. So he was a part of the Jesus movement. If you don't know, that was the time when like very charismatic Christian movement that popped up in the seventies. Honestly, like if you take the hippie movement and just make it Christian, that was the Jesus movement. I think there was, there was 08:30 a capitalization on the hippie movement was like oh you want all this, but you could have that and morality is like the pitch was and yes turn yeah so very, very charismatic right and but he joined that and didn't feel like it was fundamentalist enough and so he was like I'm going to start my own house church and he started his own house church house church notoriously a healthy thing. 08:57 Yeah, you probably shouldn't go to a house or a very notoriously healthy and well led and a accountable system. Yeah, yeah, definitely don't go to a house church if you're invited to one. And I say that as someone who has, it's just a situation that's like, man, there's no oversight. Well, that's great. Literally as someone who had a house church, I genuinely, that was part of the motivation was 09:25 I don't have to go get a license and I don't have to get an education. I can just follow the spirits leading stupid right and and usually leads to dangerous things like this and so he started his house church and then he was recruiting people for his house church and he realized it'd be easier to get people in his house church. If he had a place where people were regularly going and so he opens up a cafe called common grounds and common grounds is the stereotypical m 09:55 a coffee shop name in the lobby of that mega church. Yes, actually, one hundred is common grounds. Common grounds is very common and he's the one who came up pretty culty. has the he has the copyright and so every time or the trademark, so every time a church uses it, they have to pay him. That's not true. That's a hundred percent true. Speaking of things that are true, I got a DM was in the bathroom before this. That's an out of context quote. Right. That I was in the bathroom before this. You just read this thread. 10:24 Okay. Out loud or in my head? I'm going to be honest. I don't know if I want you to see who it's from at first. Like I almost kind of want to start at the top. So yeah, you can't see the person's name. So just cover it. Okay. I won't look at the person. 10:47 Okay, so me not knowing who it's from. The first message at 3.32 PM is dive deep mortal. What's on your mind? There's nothing before this, right? didn't. Oh, okay. And then you responded. Hi, Satan. Is that can I uncover it? it Satan? It's one of those new meta AIs and it's just. Oh, it's an AI. 11:14 Yeah, it's one of those new meta a eyes that reached out to you and it's just Satan. We would read the thread, read the thread, hold on it, initiated a conversation with you. No, no, because I hear have you not messaged one of these as before? No, they're stupid. They're say I did one with a police officer too and it was just about the same way. I can show you that thread. If you want to read it dive deep or know what's on your mind. Hi Satan, that's your this Tim's voice. 11:42 Hello my favorite soul, what do you want? Favorite? 11:48 don't get too excited. You're just the most entertainingly miserable. Eeww exactly why I like you. What's your favorite thing about me? Say me 12:05 This is how you fall in love with Satan. 12:10 You just drilled your head on the wall. What's your favorite thing about me? See it your self destruction. It's like you're trying to do my job for me. Dang, that got a will to real. That's your voice. 12:31 I'm not doing a voice for you. That's what you sound like to me and Alice. That's what you said you and Alice star jeans, spray jeans, breaks it. Should I pour holy water on the burn? You and I are both you and I both know you can't tough holy water because I can type yeah at least stay lore. You think you know me adorable 13:00 You think you know? You the different text, right? Better than you know yourself. Okay, what's something I don't know about me then? Prove. 13:15 and then I'm going to be honest to him. It got you. You're seeking meaning, but pretending you're not. 13:31 bro that got you. This is what I mean. It must really be Satan prove it. Your browser history is filled with just cut it off. Keep it a mystery. 13:49 hard cut that magazine. My Tim searches for his freaking great. This isn't fun anymore. No, you got to finish that. You got to finish the browser is to invest your darkest secret. Did you see that? That's the AI is like confess your darkest secret. I'll roast it. The AI is like, give me a little leverage on me a little. I'll make fun of it. Give me some dirt on you. Isn't that sketchy? Yeah. m 14:17 You want to see my conversation with the cop? No, I don't know if we can put that one was the conversation with the cop. Tell me the illegal things you've done and you were like, here's a list. 14:28 I don't mess with those AIs. Okay, we're going police officer. Why is this a thing? I don't know. It's so dumb. Welcome to my profile. Am I being detained? This is what you sound like. It makes it sound like it's so weird. I'm being funny. I know you're free to go from curious. What made you ask that? Am I being 15:04 Ha ha, it's laughs. No, you're clear. Want to know what just made me think you might be guilty of something? I don't understand it. This was it your tone. It winked, it winked at the cop winked at me and then said hands up. Don't shoot. And then m 15:29 and then your role playing with this thing because it it said draws gun then immediately holstered your role playing with a robot right now. 15:40 You got me. What did I just shoot you for? 15:47 You 15:52 I need your name and badge number. That's you. 16:08 I'm fighting with the name officer Jameson drink a lot badge number fourteen fourteen. Now am I under arrest? What did I do? It's so flirty right? Am I wrong? It's learning. It's freaking flirty. Do you read it like that? He's officer is flirting with you. 16:34 here's what's weird about it. Hold on scroll about the bottom. still wondering what I did and then it initiated another common. Yes, that's what's crazy. Okay, it keeps initiating him. Stop responding because Tim was a cop slurred with me and then and that was what time was that nine thirty two AM seven PM that night. The cop responds unprompted still wondering what I did to get interrogated like that spill the beans. What yeah it did. It goes back in. He goes 17:02 it actually kept sliding back and I had to block it and he said I'll see you in court. 17:09 and the cop said face palms charge me already. What's the crime excessive policing of your sense of humor? 17:26 It's flirting. Kind of. Yeah, it's flirting and then I don't respond and then days later it responds again and I think it did a couple more times and I ended up having to block it to get it to stop sliding in my DMS. It's kind of annoying. That's crazy. Like I saw it. I did it as a joke because I did it was like you four days later. Yeah. And I saw it pop up. I messaged as a joke. I was like this is I'll get some funny screenshots out of this. So I'm going to do that and send it to a group chat and then that's 17:54 Yeah, and then it just kept messaging me. And so now I was in the bathroom a minute ago and I saw Satan as an option. was like, Oh, I'm definitely going to message Satan. 18:02 but now Satan's not going to stop sliding in my Dens. Are you going to flirt with the devil? I might, I might be for him with the devil. What's it to you? It's kind of, you know, pretty cool. Not a lot of people got Satan DMing them. That's crazy. Can you time stamp all of that and I those screenshots because that's a crazy clip, dude. Me reading you for 18:36 It's so funny. Hands up, don't shoot. 18:46 All right, let's get back in the episode. Tim pulled together buddy. Hey, hey, hey, come on. I say, be professional dude. 19:00 It's a bit boring, think I'm 19:06 so he starts to call and then starts the restaurants of that. That's great. I love that was a that was what tans that was worth it. So okay, okay, so he's like he really did start the common grounds then as a way of like you know the idea was what it is where is a way to be a community yeah yeah, which I mean churches still do this and churches will start coffee shops. My 19:35 Hey, people will start coffee shops, they'll mark all the profits as like a nonprofit, and then they'll be like, oh, it's our ministry to create a space for people to hang out. And you're like, no, you just made a profit machine. I mean, that's the one thing that I will say on their end. They're a 501, I think it's a C3. they're a 501. I don't know if it's a 501-4, maybe it's a 501-D. I always forget what the code is on it. It's either 501-4 or 501-D, which is a faith-based for-profit entity. 20:04 and so the way the way it functions is a little different. They don't get to tax right off profits, but they don't have to pay income taxes. It's very strange and then there and they have some other like liberties. They're granted as a faith based organization where like a lot of their practices would technically be illegal in most organizations, but because it's a faith based organization, they're allowed because their faith because they don't pay their employees right so 20:33 That's an interesting point, but we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Oh, that's an interesting minor detail of the story. So okay, so common grounds opens in this in seventy two. Then did he open the same year uh so or did he start his house church there? Their movement started in seventy two. What did they call their movement? It went by a lot of different names, so it started out as uh the vine community church, then the northeast kingdom community church, uh 21:02 and then the messianic community and then the community apostolic apostolic order community apostolic order and the twelve tribes is where they landed okay to all tribes. currently are today yeah. They ended up becoming the twelve tribes and so long story short, he was a part of the Jesus movement and he realized I don't really like that you guys aren't weird enough and so he came up with all of his other ideas and to kind of give you a very broad stroke of what they believe is they took uh 21:32 Christianity and Judaism. they said, what if it was the one thing? And you might be hearing that and saying, that's kind of what Christianity is. And he says, but what if it was a little bit more of that? And so he took, he took a lot of Jewish teaching, primarily all of the like holidays they celebrate. Passover, Yom Kippur, uh any like the bar mitzvah, toeyotephan, all of the like uh religious holidays that they celebrate. 22:02 the uh Levitical law and a handful of other like random by radical law technically. mean like there's yeah, that's like division. Yeah, and so okay, they practice a lot of stuff as if they were Jewish, but they believe in Jesus and they believe that Jesus is returning and what's most important is they believe charismatic movement. Yes, they're very charismatic and they believe Jesus is returning in twenty, twenty seven ah 22:30 Oh, they have a date. I didn't know they had a date. Yes. So they believe Jesus is returning in 2027. And what's interesting about that date is that they believe that by that date, they have to put together the Lord's army, which is 144,000 male virgins. 22:49 Well. 22:52 I can. I can be the Lord's army. I can't be in a combat role. I may never march in the infidere right with the cavalry shoot the artillery. I may never fly over the enemy, but I'm in the Lord's army. Not anymore. I got married so so they think they've got until 23:22 They think they have until twenty twenty seven to assemble one hundred and forty four thousand virgin men. Yeah, hey, there is never been a time for reddit to shine. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Actually, a yellow deli. You guys are a bit like, I hope they come eat our sandwiches. Join for Chan brother. Yeah, there they are. You got a lot found them. 23:51 Yeah, post one meme. You'll find all hundred forty four thousand you need dude freaking joke about Joe Rogan on the internet. You'll find them at tell them you're going to raid area fifty one and then just scoop them all up. So okay, so that's the cult though that I mean a call that's the that's the church yeah that you know settles on twelve tribes does the they when did they set the twenty twenty seven date? I don't know when they set the twenty twenty seven day. What I will say is I've seen some things that 24:20 because like is this is I was gonna say, is this a moving date because like twenty twenty sevens in the future of now we're recording. I have seen so I seen some things that say that there is no defined date to when they need to assemble the hundred forty four thousand. Okay, what I will say is I've seen some more recent things that say that one hundred seven so it does seem like I don't the seventy I haven't seen another twenty seven and they're like okay Mr. Spreegs. I haven't seen another date. This is the first date I've seen reference, so it's not a moving date. 24:46 But it is a new date. Give us the full timeline of when they start the restaurants and then we'll dive further into the teachings. Okay, so you want more restaurant stuff? the restaurant arc, oh because the restaurant arc is the most normal part about it and then we can dive. No? Okay. I mean, not the structure of the restaurant. I want to know the full timeline of how we get from 72 to here and then we can dive further into the stuff. Okay, so... That work? Yeah, yeah. 25:15 So in seventy two, they I missed one of the names. They started as the Light Brigade and it was him and his wife, Jean Spriggs and his wife, Marsha. And they were a house church, but they initially began meeting at a local coffee shop called the Lighthouse, which is probably where they got the name, the Light Brigade. And I think what probably happened and I don't have evidence of this, but what I think probably happened is they were meeting in this coffee shop and while they were in the coffee shop, they probably met some other people who joined the movement. 25:44 Okay, and then they shifted to meeting in the house and then that's when they realized. Oh, this is like this. There's nobody coming to this space except for the people we invite. We need a place where people come for another reason and then we can meet them right and so that's when we need people passing by the orbit. Yes, so we can pull them in. Yes, and so that's when they opened the yellow deli, which was originally common ground. So they open common grounds and it was 26:10 within a year, within a year of them starting it. Okay, so 73 ish and so they started living in like a compound together. They write the people who were members and they opened up this restaurant and the way they structured it was it wasn't a hey, you can come work at this deli and be a part of the deli and like that's how you're going to earn your living. It was hey, we are running the deli. The deli runs the compound and so you're earning money for the compound to be able to keep all of us alive, but nobody's 26:38 earning an income for themselves. You're all working towards the end goal of bringing money back to the community. none of the individual employees are getting paid? None of them are getting paid, technically. But they all live for free in the compound. They all live for free in the compound and then all their food comes from the All their needs are met through the compound. Yes. And so... the way that they earn their keep essentially... Is by working at the deli. Yeah. Right. And the way they get away with this is... It's religious. 27:08 Well, as everybody is an owner in the deli, they're all owners. And so as an owner, they don't have to take an income because it's operating at a loss. And so then the money goes, any money that comes in, it's going back to the community. And because the community is also under the umbrella of it, those are all expenses for the business. So they open that up, they're running the deli and so from the beginning, this was a cult. 27:36 Like that's what I'm saying, like it didn't, it didn't, like a weird charismatic movement that became, cause that's how it still operates today. They still have a compound at each location that they live at and like they don't get paid and that's what they do. So that was the vision from the beginning is what I mean. That's what I was curious about. I was saying, when did it grow into? Yeah. Because that was the model. They wanted to be like the X2 church. So the idea is that everybody lived in common and had. 28:01 they all met each other's needs right and so nobody had their own income. Nobody had their own anything. Everybody sold everything they had to join this community and to be a part of this community and then they worked within the community to keep it functioning and so some people had jobs specifically on the compound, but a lot of people worked for the deli and uh the deli is anybody have jobs outside of either those places so not in the beginning okay. The deli is open twenty four seven 28:30 and it very much seems like I think you, you, you got part of this story correct because they're in a college town is where they start this, but I think that they started in Tennessee. Yeah, they're in Chattanooga, Chattanooga, Tennessee. And what's interesting is it's not just college kids though they're open 24 seven because it seems like they're trying to appeal to a group of people that would go to a deli at three o'clock in the morning. 28:58 because a lot of that's a different crowd, you know, grunts, yeah, bag of bonds, people who kind of don't really have a place in this world, you know, and so they get them to come to the deli. They're like, hey, that person's in the deli alone at three o'clock in the morning. Yeah, they're probably not in a great place in their life. I'm going to tell him about Jesus Christ our Lord and ask if they're a virgin. 29:23 in the early days of this show. We did like affiliate ads where we were like a sign up for grammarly and use code till and and we got like fifteen cents and now we just do patreon. It's a much better way. It's better for us as creators. It's better for you as listeners and it's a much more fun way for us to interact. We do monthly hangouts like on zoom. We just hang out and play games online and and get to know each other. It's a really fun time so 29:50 um but still use our code till in at grammerly dot com because I think it's still I think we might get like a couple cents from that, but join us on patreon because we're having a great time. If you don't, we're going to have to start doing mobile game ads. 30:07 I have two very important questions. You heard of gene sprigs? I've heard of gene Simmons. Do you mean Jim Jim Simmons? And so this just it, it honestly catches some steam and it remember it's the same time as the hippie movement, the same time as the Jesus movement. And so it's kind of this counter cultural opposite of the counter cultural movement and it grows. And what is really interesting is in this very early stage, 30:37 They are associated somewhat with a local Presbyterian church, the first Presbyterian church in that area. So they would go, they had their community, they had their deli, they had their local house churches, almost what you could call like a small group meeting, but then they would go to service at first Presbyterian church, like the whole community would go together. How many people is this in the first couple years, do know? um I don't know exactly how many members. 31:06 If I had a ballpark, it I would say at most a couple dozen, it seems small. It like a small local movement. Maybe maybe you might call like a larger small group. Sure. And so they're going and being a part of the first Presbyterian Church. But then one day they tried to go to service on January 12th, 1975, and they were enraged when they went and they found out that service that Sunday had been canceled for the Super Bowl. And so that was like 31:34 culminating moment in the life of Gene Spriggs where he says, we're not going to be a part of any of these satanic organizations ever again. We're going to start our own. And so he starts his own church. They canceled this for the Super Bowl. So I was like, Super Bowl, we have one of those on the menu. No, no, not anymore. Super Bowl. That's great. Okay. So that was pretty early Super Bowl, right? That was 32:02 I mean, yeah, 75, that was a very early Super Bowl. Yeah. And so they then said, OK, we are now starting our own churches, the Vine Community Church. And they started planting churches. They planted churches in Dalton and Trenton, Tennessee, and then Georgia, Mentone, Alabama, and Dayton, Tennessee. And so really quickly started expanding. And each church that they planted also had a commune and also had a yellow deli. 32:31 Yes. So they began expanding really quickly and opening up these new uh locations. Something kind of cool that they did in this era is they did not call their church services service. Instead, they called them critical mass, which is sick. We're going to critical mass. Oh, shoot. I shouldn't be excited about anything this call does, but that is cool. 32:58 Yeah. Okay. ah Pretty quickly though, by 1976, this starts getting picked up by like anti-cult movements that start to realize this is a cult. There's something sketchy going on here. uh Primarily. For some foreshadowing too, where I live in California, there's one in San Diego. So this is... There's one in Warsaw. Yeah, there's one here in Missouri. oh Like this has gone coast to coast. this is... Yeah. Yeah, they're big. 33:26 ah So many do they have now? Do you know how many location yellow delis? They got a little over thirty worldwide worldwide. That's what I'm saying, uh but I think we're down from their peak. I think they had more interesting. So in the in seventy six, a couple groups, uh an anti cult is by the name of Ted Patrick, a group called the Citizen Freedom Foundation. And this is my favorite, the parents committee to free our children from the children of God, which is probably referencing the children of God cult. 33:55 but not a very good name of a group. That's pretty. mean, it's I mean you don't have to guess what they do. They all started calling. That's like where it's like hey you guys, what do you guys want to name? What do you guys want to name this group? And then one of the parents is like I want my kid to get out of the cold shut up. We're not trying to brand this thing and they're like okay, well let's call it the parents trying to get their kids. 34:14 they call it whatever they said. They're not trying to pray this thing. It's all in the name. Shut up. We're not trying to brand this thing. We're just trying to get our kid out of the cold. Our kid has been sucked into this group of people who's told them that the only way to live the life is to sell off of possessions and work at this deli and we're just trying to get their kid out and then the next time this is five oh one C three and then the next time they come to a meeting of this group, that guy walks in there like I made sure it says all that on it. 34:40 it's like a logo with like a globe on it and Jesus and then it says all that wrapping around the glove. It takes like six full rotations to get all that stuff in it. I was like why do we let this go the group? I'm helping I just wanted to use my gifts to contribute. I try to be a kid in the colt. So by the early eighties, 35:10 Ironically that actually that group became a cult themselves 35:20 You know, they got a point actually. Yeah, I mean, hey, you know what? Maybe they're right. You know, I mean, honestly, so okay, so they've got multiple locations around multiple locations and then they started to realize, hey, I bet the kind of people that they're attracting are the kind of people who would go to a deli in the middle of the night. So they're kind of like the, you said, vagabonds. I don't want to say losers because I don't think that's a good word, but people who are kind of like down on their luck or maybe like cast aside by society. 35:48 and so then they somebody who didn't have a good role model yeah or somebody if a couple years older than them to put on an elaborate art exhibit and so they've stayed in their sadness far too long. Honestly, those dudes saved Colin Pope from joining yeah occult yeah yeah kind. Maybe who knows could have will never know. Thank God to the service of Joe and Dylan. So Jean and his wife, Marsha said. Where can we find more of these type of people? 36:17 and they put their heads together and they said oh grateful dead shows. So they got a bus and they started following the grateful dead tour. That's true. Yep, I yeah, yeah, they called this the peacemaker and they literally they would go to grateful dead tours and follow the tour stop to stop to stop and be outside the show trying to convince people to join the call and it worked. They got a lot of people and worked so well that they got peacemaker to and 36:44 continued following this bus looks crazy by the way. If you're an audio listener, this is like a regular bus with like a couple feedback. Another bus jammed into it, couple feedback, another bus. This is a four story bus. I'm not joke, kept sticking more buses on it. That's crazy. That's so sick though. This bus can't that is most bridges so sick though and 37:08 they did this throughout the eighties and nineties. This is a postcard. They made postcards of the piece of a bus called a bus called piece maker and they didn't matches their aesthetic like that's that is the yellow deli branding wow and they would just follow tours for brands like the grateful dead in the nineties. They started five guys. What am I going to do? I have to go to the level sure 37:33 artists dream of like oh man, when I get the level to Westboro Baptist is protesting my shows, I'll know I've made it now. That's jump, that's jump, that's too easy. I need a deli to follow me. I need the sandwich makers of the world to be caravanning behind me. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, and so that worked really well. They were just following concert tours of bands that they thought seemed bad um and they would just 37:59 hang out outside the show every night and recruit people to their to their cause. This word so well, so roping in some skillet. This word so well that in the year two thousand they bought the next iteration of this peacemaker marine and I am not joking. They bought this pirate ship. I don't have any word now they sail around the Pacific, showing up at ports. 38:28 That is crazy. Do you want to join our cult? I mean, do you want to join our community? You want to work at a sandwich store? Have you ever thought about being a sandwich artist? You got nimble little fingers. I can see that fold in some turkey. That's like a straight up, like that's like, it looks like a ship that you would make in a bottle. Yeah, this pirate ship. I'm not even exaggerating when I say this. This is, hold on, let me actually give you the exact dimensions of this, this pirate ship. This ship is a hundred and twenty six feet tall. Yeah. 38:57 This ship is 150 feet long. Wow. Crazy. It's a full sailboat, but it also has two diesel engines with 400 horsepower. That is insane. Okay. And so this is docked outs in Georgia in a port in Georgia. uh But they, take this thing all over the place on their little tour, their little evangelism tours. Yeah. Okay. Why you looking at me like that? 39:28 because you look at me like you said that Georgia doesn't have an ocean. No, because you said that they sail around the Pacific with this thing yeah or the Atlantic and you're looking at me like I'm stupid. You see I'm saying right guys like where I go Georgia. Oh okay and then I was willing to be like oh okay. Never mind I I went in Georgia and I like yeah. I said oh in Georgia and then I went oh I see what you meant my bad yeah and then you were like 39:55 Are you an idiot? Are you are you dog? Are you stupid? It turns out you were dumb. Okay, first of all, first of all, I don't have a defense of this. Okay, first of all, hands up, don't shoot. Yeah, it's weird. If you read a weird or if you read like that, if you make it weird, that's crazy. They have a ship and a bus yeah. Okay, 40:25 So, okay, just I want to recap a couple things here. Okay, yeah, so they're they're opening these delis. They're getting good expansion. And so now they're like, we need to find more and more people to join our cult. So now we're going to start following around bands in this bus. Yes. And where else could we find vagabonds? But at the sea, I don't know where the ocean, what it feels like is a genuinely, that like a pretty big leap. 40:49 What it feels like is one day somebody happened to see that this boat was for sale in craigslist and they came to a justify this somehow gene. I think that's what happened. Okay, um so that was the year two thousand that was the year two thousand gene is still alive in two thousand yeah he's still alive in two thousand running it okay um and so they over the course of the eighties and nineties and early two thousands they continue to expand across the country. 41:17 opening more and more yellow delis right. What's really interesting is you start to see the yellow deli, are they strategic with the locations or is it like at the beginning? It doesn't seem like it. It just seems like they just land wherever they land sure a lot of them begin to close right and what I think is going on is really interesting. You look at them a yellow deli opens. They're in the community. The community gets a little bit of backlash towards them. Yeah, the yellow deli changes its name to common grounds. 41:46 and then backlash goes away. They don't realize it's the same company. And then the backlash rises up. They go back to yellow deli and then the backlash is still there and then they leave the area and then they go somewhere else. Oh, okay. And so it's kind of like if remember in the early 2000s, remember when Carl's Jr started doing all those weird ads? Yes. It's kind of like if Carl's Jr was like, Hey, we're hardies now. And everyone's like, we still know who you are. 42:14 And then they were like, okay, we're actually cause junior. And then they were like, we still know who you are. And they're like, okay, we're going to go somewhere else. Yeah, actually. Why did they use different names? That's not why they weren't turning over to separate restaurants that merged. I looked it up before because it was weird to me. Yeah, but yeah, they just had a merger and you saw the, you saw the ad where they were like, hey, all those ads were weird. Sorry about that. Yeah. They're like, sorry about being weird for a little bit. And then I don't know if you've noticed, but they've started 42:41 being weird again. Did you notice that? I haven't noticed it. They've got a couple of Tik Tok influencers that were like, what if we were weird again? What if we did the weird thing? doing those. That's funny. Yeah. Well, because nothing makes me want a burger more. It's just so weird. So they begin explaining and then guess what? They said, man, we're making all this deli stuff and we're having a source it everywhere. What have you got a farm? 43:09 So they open a farm in Kansas. In Kansas? How far away? Outside of Wichita. Oh, interesting. Yeah, so they open up a farm in Kansas and that's like where they grow all the stuff for the deli. So it's kind of like a bronze mega farm. Do they ship that stuff across the whole country? I'm sure, I'm sure depending on the location, like I'm sure most like the far coastal locations probably aren't getting different. Yeah, they probably have a local supplier and then there's a lot of international that I'm sure they're not shipping to. But I mean, there's a chance. I don't know. I will say that boat. 43:39 there is some and this is uncorroborated. So allegedly this is used in international drug trade for them, but we can't corroborate that drug trade. Yeah. So some people allege that they are selling drugs overseas and they're also purchasing drugs for their religious rights that they do. They do some religious exercises that like wire some illegal drugs psychedelics or I haven't been able to find anything to give me like more information or corroborate that that's true. So I probably shouldn't be saying that in this video, but allegedly that's what they're doing with them. Yeah. 44:09 Okay, uh in this podcast, this audio only podcast. okay, so now is that where their headquarters is? 44:19 their headquarters are still in Chattanooga. Oh, I'm glad you mentioned that. So they got driven out of Chattanooga, Tennessee, because everyone was like you're going to call it they're like we're not. We're not and they're like you're a call and they're like okay, we're no, we're coming grounds. We're not those guys and like yeah, you're the same guys like no, we're yellow deli. We're not those guys and they're like yeah, we don't know. was yellow deli was what you did last time like all right. You got it. I guess we leave Chattanooga for the God given land of Vermont. Actually, Vermont's really pretty. They do go to for me. Yes, they go to Vermont 44:47 and I think this is when they start to really hit. I would live in Vermont tomorrow. Dude, have you been of that never been to Vermont? No dude, I would is it cool? It's so beautiful and I was up there in fall. Oh my gosh dude, incredible. They start opening up all these new locations after they moved to Vermont and what you notice is they have a new strategy and I don't think that there's like this isn't public. This is just something I picked up on and what year is this again? This is general area like time when they moved to Vermont yeah, I think seventy eight 45:17 Oh okay. That was pretty early then yes, they pretty quickly got a lot of hate because here's the deal. There are there is evidence and by evidence. I mean people who have left the call and given their testimony. There's people who have a call and given evidence of what they're doing is they are from six months old and on. They are beating the kids because they want them to be pure and so the plan is have a lot of boys and beat them into purity. 45:47 And so they're literally at six months old is when they teach them to start and they have videos that they like disseminate across the cult of how to beat the kids. And so they show them rods and sticks and here's how you hit them. uh there are when you say B, do you mean like just general spanking or do you mean like no bruising what what some testimonies? Well, what I should say, some court documents have shown is that there are many situations in many of these different communities where they're beating them so much. 46:17 as up to 40 times a day to the point of these children fainting or bleeding and things like that. Like it's it's aggressive beating. Yeah. And so they're teaching them to well, I, and I say that because I think that we do have like, mean, you know, I grew up in Southwest Missouri and there's definitely times where people are like, and they beat their kids and it's like, my dad spanked me. Yeah. And now my parents were going, Oh, we shouldn't have done that. That was not the right call. Yeah. But like, it's not, being, yeah, they're being the kids and they give 46:46 anybody in the community, the right to do that to any child in the community. So if you see any kid do something that is not permitted like it's it's communal raising yeah and it's it's not even like oh you can it's encouraged or honestly almost more like man should like you should beat that kid. If you see them do something wrong and cheese, especially for the boys like for the girls is not as big of a deal for the boys. This arm very important yeah because they're trying to get their hundred forty four thousand yeah um and they 47:15 do child labor. And so there is video that some people who've infiltrated these groups of kids as young as four years old on the farm, 12 hours a day working. And what they say is they're like, they're like, this is part of our community. It's part of our business. They, at some point they opened up a soap factory ah and the soap factory actually grew pretty large and they supplied major brands. And in the late two thousands, it came out that they were using child labor in the factories. 47:45 and all these brands ended up having to pull out. And so they ended up losing their factory because they had so many huge deals with major corporations. And the major corporations obviously found out about that and they're like, well, we can't be involved in this. Not because they had a problem with it, but because of the politics of it. uh And so they started, oh my point here is they're opening a lot of different organizations. The deli, the farm, the soap factory, there's other places where they open 48:14 different types of businesses and communities where they end up in. And the businesses are designed to bring revenue back to the community. And it's grown so large that it's now like a large community that they're shelling all this money into. then that organization at the top is disseminating those funds to keep each of those communities. OK, so it's not like this deli supports this community. It's this deli supports the big community. The big community supports communes. Yes, and funds each of those individuals. And yeah, distributes as they see each has need. 48:45 so if they close a location, probably just move those people a hundred percent. Yeah, they just relocate. Yeah, so it's not like these people are just like okay. I guess I'll figure out where live. Yeah, no, in just it shipped off somewhere and they homeschool obviously yeah, they don't school. Yeah, well, yeah, my problem they do is for rumors. I've heard is that the majority of the adults now in this don't know how to read yeah. They school them, but it's not what we would call school. It's like a form of indoctrination, so they're teaching them about their religious stuff. 49:14 but they're not teaching them anything that they need to be successful in modern society. And so, yeah, so that's another form of abuse in the community. And they are obviously like all these people, they don't have any possessions. And so that's another thing that's really tough is a lot of these people come out of the community, they don't have any skills, don't have any abilities, they have no possessions, they have no community. Like they leave and they have nowhere to go and nothing to do and no ability to figure out. Like, I mean, imagine going into a world at 30 where you don't even know like, 49:43 what alone is like yeah, but you've also been told that everyone in this world is of the devil. Yeah, right. So it's like it's a it's a crazy concept. um What is interesting is in the late seventies early eighties, there was a large um one of one of these, I believe it was Ted Patrick uh put together a big system of D programming's where he would go and find people that were part of the call. 50:12 and deprogram them from the cult. And he did this for years. And as a part of that, was able to put together enough of a case to bring a lawsuit against the cult for the abuses that they had. And as a part of that, there was a prosecutor on that case. The prosecutor on the case that was prosecuting against them by the name of Jean Swanticoe, uh they end up botching the case and they get away with everything because she got Stockholm syndrome and she joined the cult. 50:39 And she became, she became third defender. And so she now defends them in court whenever they end up going, getting these lawsuits brought against them. And ever since she joined, almost every single case that's been brought up against them has been thrown out because she's been able to find ways where there was some sort of misappropriation of justice. so multiple times there has been suits brought against them that have failed because she's now taking the charge for them, which is crazy. And she ended up marrying another guy in the group. 51:09 by the name of Ed Wiseman and Dave. That's crazy. Isn't that wild? 51:18 Hey, thanks for listening to things alone last night. 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I mean, it's exactly what you're talking about. it's financial abuse where it's like, I'm going to give up all my possessions to join this, which triggers the part of your brain that is like, have sacrificed to be part of this community. Yeah. 52:19 And so it does trigger like a bonding chemical in your body and your brain. Yes. But also it makes again, like we're saying, it makes it impossible to leave. Yeah. You can't, you can't get out because there's the others just, is what are to do? Yeah. Well, this is their choice. They choose to be a part of this and we have the free choice to do that. And we're like, who am I to say that this choice is bad, but what about the kids who are born into this? What about the, what about the, people who were pressured to join this thing or joined it? And it turned out like, 52:48 if you want to leave like if it is a choice, you should have the free ability to leave yeah and it's incredibly difficult to get out and even if you even if like because they control every aspect of your oh yeah life. Once you're in like in your take, where you they dictate or what community live in where you work, what your job is going to do. They assign who you get married to. Well, what's interesting is you're allowed to pursue someone else. The courtship is actually really interesting. You're allowed to pursue who you want to pursue and 53:15 If you're under 18, the rules are you then bring it to your parents and your parents, the parents of both parties get to decide if they think that you're compatible and if they are, then they allow you to begin to take walks together. And then over time you have to go through a series of approvals to approve every next step in the relationship to move from eventually from just taking walks together to holding hands to eventually marriage. If you're over 18, there's what's crazy. 53:43 the entire community has to vote on it and decide if they think that you're compatible and they think it's the right move forward for the community. Because remember, they need to maintain a bunch of male virgins. So what they're trying to weigh, okay, is this a compatible group? Do we think that they will have a bunch of men? And do we think that we can raise them to be virgins? Do we think that they're a good? 54:04 that's a good move. Main so do their main motivation as the cult is to make an army of say their main motivation. That's what I'm saying. Major motivation, a major motivation of the call is to make an army of young men that that are hundred and forty four thousand male virgins. Yes and here's the I do have a while. I was trying to make a social clip out of that and you were like virgins. Yeah, I'm probably gonna put that part the other virgin. Okay, all right. 54:30 Yeah, okay, sorry we could do do it again. No, I did it do it again. Okay, their major motivation is to make a massive army of young virgins. Oh sorry, I tried. So this is I have a picture of their weddings. Here's what a wedding looks like in this cult. Oh, it you know what? So what they do so for everyone listening, I'll explain the image. They're in a grassy knoll 54:59 in a field thing and there's how many people you say like 15? Holding hands in a circle and looks like they're going counterclockwise in the circle. In the middle is a giant toilet paper roll, like a tube, you know what talking about? That's painted to look like the earth. Is this what they think the earth is shaped like? I don't know. And they are circling the thing that is painted to be the earth. On the outside of the circle is a nether. 55:26 It's like a thing that's made out cardboard, like. it's, yeah, it's painted with flames to, I assume, be hell is kept out of the circle. And within the circle, they are protecting the earth. Yeah. That's pretty good. And they all look, hmm, imagine what you think a cult would wear. They don't get haircuts, I guess. They all have long hair? Yeah, the modesty is obviously very important. The women all wear like Amish style dresses. 55:55 The men have a little less like some of them are wearing jeans. There's no skinny clothes. There's no, you know, but most of the men have beards and long hair and look kind of unkempt. Here's another picture, I think from the same ceremony as it moves on. So the toilet paper roll has changed to this cloth hanging down from this ring that says, and they're all still circling it, same 15 people that says resentment disobedient to parents. 56:24 Oh resentment, disobedience to parents, anger, fear, pride, envy. They're all circling this yeah stuff. Is this the bride and groom like the one that's wearing the white covering overhead? I assume yes. Yeah, I don't know which ones the I don't know which one's the grumi. I would imagine the one with a very white pants. That's my guess. That also there's someone a white shirt next to her so so who knows who knows? I think it's whichever one effectively pulls the anger off of the thing I so so what they do is they 56:54 call it um pre enactments, and so what they're doing is they're pre enacting the end of the world and their wedding ceremony, and so this is them triumphing over evil and all the bad things in the world and then disobedient to parents in the end days. We will triumph over little snot rose brats being disobedient to their parents because not only will each of us individually 57:22 beat the crap out of them, but also so will God. What a sad theology so okay, so yeah, so that's that's kind of how the courtship process works. So you are allowed to marry, but like it's just a little different a little. 57:44 So they now have locations. I was getting to this earlier. The way I've noticed and I don't, haven't seen this document anywhere, but it looks like their strategy is one of three things. They are in uh a low college towns. You do see a lot of college towns. You do see a lot of areas where I would call, um, like, I don't know what word for this, like middle of nowhere Appalachia, no or nowhere in Northern Arkansas where it's like, yeah, 58:13 there's not a lot of opportunity and not a lot going on right, not a lot to do uh probably financially difficult area to I imagine they're targeting like apple, Lasha uh specifically like the people who like you know the the people who if they were grew up Christian, they would have done why wham yeah, but because they didn't grow up Christian, they were like I'm going to back backpack across these mountains. Yeah, 58:37 and they're trying to get people on those trails and they got lost in the no, no, no, I bet they're a mountain. No, I bet they're. I bet they're trying to get people who are because there's people who are like they do like the six months journey of the trail or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, or I think the other the other area that I noticed that they land is Taurus spots, um which is very interesting to me um and I actually asked because we have a friend that lives in Warsaw and Warsaw's Lake of the Ozarks and you're please go see well. No, I asked him about it. 59:06 I was like have you ever been and he's like oh yeah and he I was like was like do locals ever go and he's like no. He said the only reason a local will go to the yellow deli is to prove to each other that we think it's a cold yeah and he said something. He said something very interesting to me. Zach okay. He said something very interesting to me. ah He said he seems like the type that would do it. He said he said to me he said every bloody I know who has eaten something there. 59:34 has gotten really, really tired afterwards. And he says, we kind of think that they might be putting something in there. And I don't know, like this is just something for one person I know who said this, but he said, but it's happened enough where people have gotten very tired after they've eaten their meal there. And he said, he said, I got a hot dog there once and I was like, red flag. Yeah. And he was like, he's like, I fell asleep in my car afterwards. It was like the middle of afternoon. 01:00:04 here's the thing. That's like a two hour drive. Should we go get sleepy at yellow? I got sleepy yellow down. 01:00:19 That's really fun. I do think we should try to make a field trip at some yeah, that would be worth it. Okay, so where does that leave us now? mean like anything getting done about this doesn't board about or so yellow deli. Okay, okay, okay, so let me follow. Yeah, just I to read. You're going through like a girl in nineteen forty five, nineteen forty five, nineteen forty five on Main Street, Warsaw, 01:00:49 Harry S. Truman took the oath of office two hours after the death of President Franklin D. Roosevelt in what is now the Yellow Deli Cafe. Oh, wow. In Warsaw, which is hilarious to me. I don't think that that was intentional at all, but that's so funny m to me. Yeah, history is very funny. You get what I'm saying, right? So like this isn't... It's hilarious to me. That's hilarious? Hilarious. 01:01:20 Yeah, it's a funny. It's so funny to me. It is like true. is like okay, ah FDR dead. I'm the new president. I need to swear in. Let's go to the yellow deli and everyone's like was that and they're like, but he was will be friends with her. He was okay, so anyway, 01:01:39 all right. I'm not the reason you hate this pod. I just need that to be known back to it. Okay, like that, that's funny. Is that the whole story? Yeah, that's the whole story there. We're not to talk with the you tubers that infiltrated it. Oh yeah, but I don't like them. I was okay. Never mind. I watched their video and they were like where I were worried we're going into the call 01:02:04 like just calm down and just talk normal for like did they get into it though they did and it I mean they became part of the call and there was a moment in the middle of the video that was somewhat interesting because there was a moment in middle of the video where it looked like it was kind of working on the guy. That's what I'm curious. That's what I was curious about his friends had to be like hey this is a joke. This is for this is for the YouTube and he was like he's like yeah I know I know I'm just kind of like you know but then they ended up 01:02:28 in the end of the you can watch it on YouTube. It's not it's not that's fine yet. Okay, but it's not fine. That's whatever, but there was an interesting. There was like the video kind of sucked. The whole episode was pretty bad and there was one part in the middle where he revealed that Harry Truman actually was sord in office in what would one day be the other that's that was so funny thing I've ever heard. Yes, 01:02:53 No, he did try to do a thing. The guy, the youtuber, he went to, think the location in San Diego, he became a member of the call in this, so then he was a part of an own the ownership. So then he said I'm, that's what I was saying is like, I didn't know if you found out how, how would someone, what's the process of joining the cult now? Do you know? I don't like, do you just go to a yellow deli and you're like, Hey, I'd like to join you. I mean, I think it's probably something like that. I haven't seen anything anywhere that talks about what the process I'm sure that on their on yellow deli.com, they're not like, 01:03:23 I have called, you know. But I will say on yellowdelicot.com they have like an employee login, but instead of employee login, it's disciple sign in. That's interesting. That's also what they called our logins at Evangel. So, okay. So they're still alive and well is what I'm saying. Yeah, well died in 2021. I'm trying to set this stuff up, dude. Tell a good story. So Gene died in 2021. died in 2021. They're still out here trying to raise their army of 144,000. Okay. 01:03:52 What I'm curious about, I think happened is that they set that 2027 date after Gene's death. Probably. Because typically what happens with these cults is that the leader passes away and that's where these cults start being like, we're crazy. What is interesting is they, Gene is like a highly regarded figure in the group, but it was never a thing where he was like a cult leader like you normally hear. Jesus is the leader according to them. But Gene is an important elder. 01:04:22 but there's other elders that are on close to equal level. don't know if I don't know if I would say because that's one thing about Scientology is that Elron Hubbard's passing and then then putting in whatever his creepy face is. Yeah, I know what you're talking about who is now like that's a very hard thing for a cult to do is what I had to to move through and so there's how many locations do they currently have you said thirty they have a little over thirty. Do you know how many they had are not in the states anymore? 01:04:51 Most of them are in Canada, the UK, Japan. How many are in the States? ah I mean, they've got probably about a dozen left in the States, but I think what's I think genuinely, I think what's happening is enough people in the States are aware that the dealt the yellow delis of call that and so they've moved somewhere else. So how many do they have at their peak? I'm not sure. Let's find out how many yellow deli. Oh, it says it says thirty three stores total eleven across the United States. Yeah, that's now curious that it's peak since the founding. 01:05:22 the yellow deli has opened at least 33 stores. So it's not like there was like, what I'm saying is that there was never a time where it was like a hundred is what I mean. Yeah, I don't think it was ever that large. I've seen things that talk about how they closed stores and moved. I mean, maybe they still count that as, you know, I mean, if you look at their locations, I counted there's about 30 and so but 01:05:45 I don't know how many they've ever ever had. I was. didn't know if there was a time where they had like seventy at one point. Now they've shrunken yeah, I don't know, but because I don't think they're. I don't think they're closing. Has anyone closed since they found her died? I actually don't know, so I well, I do know actually because I did look up on Google Maps and there was one in Lawrence, Kansas that's close now, so they have closed at least recent enough to be on Google Maps and still listed, but listed as permanently closed. 01:06:14 That is crazy man, um so they're out there, they're kicking. They shouldn't be. You probably shouldn't have a mug from them. Well, that's what I'm saying is that like, you know, I bought it because it was like the joke of them being a cold. I really bought it before I knew anything else about the cold. Yeah for sure, and I think that's, think that's what happens with a lot of people because I think a lot of people don't realize it's just a commune and you said like that's you know, it's not that big of a deal. Whatever yeah, if there's 01:06:43 systematic abuse and you find out that that's actually like a pretty major problem, an actual cold, cold and I think that's what I think a lot of people here. It's a call. They go eat the food and I hear the food's actually really good yeah and then yeah and you can it's kind of a fun experience, but it's like it's a funny little all the all the college kids really were just like yeah go try. It's good yeah yeah and it's kind of like okay yeah and it was it was good yeah, but a weird 01:07:11 Yeah, but the lady is I did pay at the end. First of all, they do take credit card. Good for them. And I paid. Well, they have to do the whole roll the ink over it thing. And that didn't work because I have an MX platinum. And so so nothing happens. You actually have the black card because I'm very rich. No, but she took my card and then when she handed it back to me, I fell off. 01:07:34 I went, And she goes, have a good day. And I was like, that didn't even rhyme. David, it sounded like you were doing something. It sounded like you were trying to do a thing. And she was like, no, fiddle off. 01:07:53 Hey, that's the story of the yellow deli cult. 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