These Forever Chemicals are Already Inside You! | PFAs


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A man. What's up? Have you ever heard of P FAST? What have you ever heard fast? Parental fragments? Adult services? Yeah? No, yeah, okay, so p FAST you were pretty close. It doesn't have a lot to do with parents, and it actually stands for per and polyflorolical floor, floral kill floor polly floral substances. PER drives bad bad guys. You know me, a big bad bad guy, ID liver damage. It's cause a lot of ID s. That joke. Don't let her take your boy things I learned last night. Yeah, so anyway, we're at polyfloral alkyl substances. Sure have you heard of that? Nope? Oh I've got my degree in that. You might have heard of him from the colloquial name uh forever chemicals. Oh yeah, yeah. Is this why a bunch of boomers have lead poisoning? No? That was that was another episode of the lead. Actually that was that was the lead guy. Who was the lead guy. We did an episode on George. No, hold on, I'm scrolling Darles Russ. George Russ George, Oh yeah, you're no. Russ. George was the fishing guy. Is that not the same guy where he throws the iron and the rust into the thing and it brings all the Yeah, that was a different guy. Oh oh your yea stop stop, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't find it. It's it's golly. Yes, he was like, I know there's lead in I don't care. Then he ended up dying of that bed he made. Yeah, yeah, exactly made his giant bed. Alex. Do you remember who this was? What was his name? Wow? It were super involved in our content. I'm like scrolling back through our list of episodes and I'm like, it was not that long. It was last year. Yeah, dang, we've got some good episodes. That was a good one. I can picture his face and made the thumbnail. Yeah, I can't find him anyways. Yeah, so there's a guy. There's a guy who did this. He found out about the lead and he didn't care. This is similar. This is a guy who found out about forever pee fast and didn't care. Okay, so well, not just one guy. It was just the idea that like, when you drink out of a plastic bottle, there are chemicals from this plastic bottle in my body forever. Well that is true. That's not really this. This is a little bit more insidious. Okay. Yeah, is it that the chemicals from this will infiltrate my soul and then direct me to do things for the dark Lord? That's also true. But and that's more insidious than this. Okay, but it's not. That's that's a cult that prays over every every bottle of water, pure life. Yeah, yeah, it's anything but pure. The twelve Tribes, Yeah, hey, pray over this. They come together. It's weird. So not as insidious as that, but more insidious than whatever you said before. Sure, so this is so p fast is a man made chemical. Okay, we'll call it p fast because you saw me struggle with the normal name, the scientific name. And it's a chemical that we discovered in the early fifties. And it looks like this really all it is, Yeah, all it is is it's a bunch of carbine, carbine, carbon merged with fluorine. That's right. Fluoride is right, that's a carbon, fluorine, florine, fluorine, fluorine. It's fluorine, right, Alex, Thanks, it's fluoride. We've got enough soundbits we can make him say whenever we want. Really, I think sweet. So the carbon it's really any formation like this that has a bunch of carbon and fluorine molecules attached together, and then you can have any other combination of anything else in it and it's still a pe fast right. Okay. The interesting thing about this is because of this chemical makeup, because you have the carbon and the fluorine together, it's basically invincible. Nothing can neutralize it. Well, it's not invincible. It just takes a thousand years to die or more or a couple of thousand, you know. It's like it lasts forever essentially. That's why they call it forever chemicals. They don't die, right. And when we discovered this, we were like, oh, this is sweet cool. In the fifties, people were like, oh, we figure out how to turn all of our bodies into this? Well they said, they said, you know what, we could do so many cool things with this. One of the best ideas that they had early on is they said, if we cover our trees in this, then insects can't do anything to them. They can't they can't walk up there and they can't get in them. Like that's not real. Yeah, they said, spray it all over our trees and we don't have any any more insect problems. No, yes, it's one hundred said the thing because they were like, they were like, it'll stick to it forever, and the ants will try to crawl up it, and they'll be too slick. They can't crawl up it, and then they can't think about how it's going to kill the tree. Yeah, they didn't care. They were like, yeah, but the insects can't get on it, and so we solve the insect problem. It's a lot of you know, this was the middle. You got to understand the thinking in this era. This is this is solve one problem, doesn't matter what other conquests. Well, that is probably part of what. I read a whole book about trees. What I read a whole book about trees? Are I tell you about this? No? What are you saying? I with my eyes opened a physical book and my eyes looked at the book and there are words I've never heard, like carbon that I read yea, and my brain went, that's what that word means. You know what I think? I think people who read books aren't insane. People who read books. You know what? I drink a glass of milk with it every night. Milk warm milk milk and my tree book. Yeah anyway, No, I did read a book about trees. I thought the book it's called The Hidden Life of Trees. It's not a joke. It's not a joke. It's a great book. Why Okay? But for real though, there's actually it's pretty fascinating because it's just a guy who you know it like love trees. But no, this is real. Did you know that trees? So the insect problem? So do you know that trees? Uh? You know, specific species of trees all around each other. If there's an insect that it's on that tree, based on the insect saliva, the tree can tell what kind of insect it is, and then it will release a chemical into the air that would draw the predator of that insect to the tree to get the insect. That's the craziest thing I've heard in my mind. It will also release a chemical in the air to alert the other trees in the area. Yeah, and so when that insect goes to the other trees, they've already been alerted and they've the taste of their leaves, so that when the insect bites it, it doesn't like it. That is insane. This is real science. Shut up, bro, you want to read a book about it? Isn't that fascinating? That is pretty cool? And the way that they communicate through their root systems is bonkers. They use the fun guy to communicate with each other. Yeah, and they use resources. So I've heard of this, right, So like a stump that's like a tree that has fallen or been chopped down, the stump will still survive because trees share their resources with the safe pieces around them. Yeah, I have heard that especially. Yeah, I've heard that they that through that same process, through the root system, they will specifically share their resources with their quote unquote young like the trees that came from their seed things, so that to help them reach maturity, right, and they will actively cut off resources to yeah, to make different species so that they are and so like when a when a tree falls and there's now a hole in the canopy of that forest, all the other young trees are just there in trying to get there. Yeah. Yeah, And so it's it's truly fascinating. That is pretty insane. It's kind of surprising though that about this. I know this is crazy what I'm about to say, but it's kind of crazy where we we know this about trees and we haven't figured out how to do that, like with our economy, like I would think with people or what no no, no, no, no, no, no, how to figure out Oh hey, I've got so let's take our last episode for example, Sure Brazil says, oh, France is coming and they're going to take our lobsters, so we need to change the flavor of our lobsters. But yeah, like for real though, like like that seems like there would be some sort of defense systems that business would figure out to be like, oh, our competition's coming. Yeah, we're just gonna It's called greed. Dude, Why do you think people go to war? Yeah, but it's not war because this is better than war. Whatever the trees are doing, they're they're past war. Yeah. But also the rate that they grow and how long it takes those electrical signals to travel through the root system is forever. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's fair. It takes a long time. So what I appreciated about the book was he talks a lot about the speed of trees and and how nature will I mean, like a tree will die, you know, in effect, like damage will happen to its bark. That will eventually kill that tree. Like we put this forever stuff on the tree, the tree will still survive for another one hundred years, but without it, it could have lived eight hundred years. Oh yeah, yeah, and so but they live slow, they die slow, and oh, it's just a fact. That's a that's a that's a good analogy for our life. You live fast, you die fast, you live slow, you die slow the trees. If you live slow, you'll you'll die over a three year period due to some type of cancer. Be like the trees. Be not like frost, be like the cheese. But for really, it was a really good book anyway. I thought that was a really interesting fact that they changed the flavor of their that's pretty crazy to ward off predators. That blows my mind. Okay, so yeah, the p fast they put it, they slattered it over the trees because they said, apparently, they said, the trees aren't doing a good job keeping the insects away themselves. We need to help out. They're releasing their own chemicals. We've got better chemicals. And so they rubbed their rub their their chemicals all over the tree and kept the ants away from their trees. And free tree Zone and then they said, oh, hey, this can do a lot of stuff, and so then they started making a lot of different products. Three Am was the company that invented p fasts originally, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah, you might have heard of them. They're one of the big bad guys. I call them. Okay, they're one of the big bad bad guys of the chemical world. Big bad bad guys. You know, me a big bad bad guy. They invented bef p fasts and they call their friends DuPont and they said DuPont. I heard of DuPont. Yeah, they said, hey, DuPont, you're we're the big bad bad guys of chemicals and you're the big bag bad guys of chemicals too. We're both big bad bad guys of chemicals. And they said, we got to brand a new chemical that we think you guys would think is pretty cool. And they said, all right, tell me about it. They said it's called p fast. They're like, you got have to tell us a lot more than that, and they said, basically, you can lad this up on anything, spray the trees, and it makes it magic. And they're like, oh cool anything, And so DuPont said, sell some of that, and we're gonna start putting on all sorts of stuff. And so so three Am started manufacturing a ridiculous amount of p fasts and selling off vats to DuPont, and DuPont was like, what can we put p fast on today? And so just like freaking using it like vacaline baby, lathering it up and send it to the market. What were they doing? So they here, I have a a hefty little diagram we could take a look at. This shows everything that DuPont and a lot of other companies started a lot of other companies got involved. Oh yeah, I knew there was there was forever chemicals in our nonstick cookwaar mm hmm. Yeah, so I didn't know there was forever chemicals in our microwave popcorn bags. So here's what they did. They figured out, oh, hey, this stuff makes it to wear one. It makes water resistance. Uh so water resistant clothing like shoes that you do you want to shoes, styrofoam, pretty much anything that can resist water or stains is probably a p fast to start to make a lot of clothing with it. You can fight fires with it. Because the can't handle it. They can't. Nothing can surpply. The fire ads just can't hold on the fire to the fire. And everybody knows a fire is just a bunch of fire ants jump everyone that everyone knows, watch out. There's too many fire ants about to get a fire. And so they they put it in fire fighting. And they also flame retardet materials, So any flamortaric clothes, flame retardant, furniture, flame retardant paints have uh pa fasten it uh nonstick cookware, non stick anything anything that doesn't stick huh p fast. Also they started using in things that do stick, like tape. But they but here, So here's what's clever about it. Okay, they put it on the not sticky side, so you can't stick, but you can kind of still stick. Okay. And here's what's an interesting thing. They realize grease doesn't stick to it. So microwave popcorn bags, yep, they don't. Nothing sticks to your microwave popcorn bags. Pizza boxes took gold boxes. Food doesn't stick to that. Grease doesn't stick to that because it's got pea fast on food. Def Like, pizza boxes are not using this stuff anymore because cheese deaf for the least sticks to it. Photographs. Uh, okay, I'm to be honest with you, I haven't touched I haven't touched a developed film in a while, so I don't really remember what that's like. A fast. I was gonna say, what you got in there? Pesticides obviously, animals don't like it. Cosmetic paint. There's a lot of a lot of pea fasts and a lot of different things. And it took the world by storm because it does it's cheaper to make things last longer. Well, it doesn't make things last longer, but also makes life a lot easier. Like non stick pants so much better than stick pants, Like stick pants are the worst. There's an ad from the time Uh where it's a little there's a little girl and she she has her nonstick pants and she said, I used to be a slave to my sticky pants, scrubbing them all day. But she's like, but thanks to my new DuPont non stick pants, I just and the food comes off, and she like dumps all the food off of her pants, and she's like, this has seeing me so much time. And it's a literal child. She's like seven years old talking about how much then stick pants how much time they saved her. It's the most scene marketing given I've ever seen, because it's a child trying to tell everyone how much time the scene. Hey, thanks again for watching this episode. If you're enjoying it, and you're enjoying Tillan you've been around for a little bit, I want to invite you to be a part of our patreon. We have a patreon that has early access to all of our episodes, add free content both audio and video. We have a discord with our host and producers. That's a ton of fun getting to hang out with all of our patrons in there. We also do once a month now we do these live streams with our patrons. We hang out, we get to know each other, we eat pizza. It's a blast, along with a bunch of other benefits like uh merch discounts, message on your birthday, like fun stuff. It's definitely worth it. We're having a blast with our patrons. But if that doesn't sound like something for you, they get that heck out of here. Just kidding, No, we love you. Thanks for checking out Tilling Podcasts. How do they how do they get it? Though? I realized I forgot to put a CTA in mind. Oh dad, you're doing Yeah, they can text tillan to six six eight sixty six. Thanks Jared. Well, I mean, you know, you know, the hard life of a seven year old in the kitchen. It's tough. And then and then you think, you think stained resistance, water resistant, like coats that don't get wet, shoes that don't get wet. It's an objectively better life except for the consequences of it. Because here's the thing about p fast. It ruins your life. There are so many health effects, negative health effects that come out of p fast. As you might guess, there's a lot of care answers that p fest sure causes. But on top of that, but it's so ubiquitous that I mean, like this has p fast in it. This, This might have pe fast, I don't know. Spot definitely does this. Yeah, probably this this, This does have pieces for sure, that's fast. I've spilled a lot of water on this. I can tell you this is pee fast for sure. But where we say, so everyone, where we're supposed to do. You can't live in fear. Well, let's have a conversation about it. What are you doing? You're looking at our fast, right Yeah, so the I is showing you this causes a lot of cancers. This causes a lot of increased This causes increased cholesterol, liver damage. I be about liver damage. This can cause a lot of IBS. You know that joke? Oh I also know about that. Did you know this is true? That you can get a little at at disney World, Disneyland, what whatever, Disney theme parks. You can go to their customer service and you can say I have IB and you can probably get how confident you are about this? And you're like probably, I mean I know a couple of people who have done it, do it regularly. Yeah, you can get like their fast pass because you're like, I can't stand in lines. Oh I can't wait this long. I thought you were gonna say there's like a private bathroom for ibs. P No, Like they'll give you like the fast pass thing for like the for because you can't stand in line, reliable You're like, I can't stand I can't stay in line that long? That is interesting. Can I get the fast pass stuff because I have a medical condition? Do they verify that anyway? Do you have the carrying my BS card? I mean I guess I have IV you is written, it is prescription. That's what I'm saying. My doctor says, I don't have to wait in line. That is I mean, that's kind of what I'm saying. And that's being somewhere else where. There's my chiropractice says, I can be out right now. Like imagine, just imagine being somewhere else where. There's lines, like you're trying to get into a sporting event right at the grocery store. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know I have more than tens, but I need to go and have to be in the front. Here's here's a note from my doctor that says I have to be in the front of the line. What do you do? Do you say? Okay, I am saying there is such a growing number of those people that eventually that line is longer than just the regular line. You might be right, you might be right, but here's the you know what you said a second ago is exactly right. A growing number of people. Fast is so ubiquitous is everywhere in the world that it's almost inescapable. In fact, there was during the height of the DuPont well, yes, the height of uh three m and DuPont, using p fast on everything they were there was, there was a study that three M did. So three M started trying to be the good guys, right, and they started researching. They do that until they realized how much profit they're going to lose when they're the good guys, and they go, maybe we are the big, bad, bad guys. I think, I think what happens is they do that so they could cover their tracks, and because then they have they have separate documents. They have documents that are like this is really bad, but they also pay scientists separate documents. Coca Cola paid scientists to be like this, this is good for you. Yeah, your doctors didn't say it was good for you. They said it wasn't bad for it. They did they convinced the doctors to prescribe it. They didn't convince the doctors anything. They paid the doctors enough. That's not convincing. That's paying them all. Think well, I think I think there's an inflection point. You pay a few and then everybody else is like, oh, that must be good for you if they're prescribing it, and then it catches and then the culture at large believes it's okay. Because describing how propaganda works. Yes, yeah, okay, yeah, but so they convinced the majority of doctors. They paid a handful of doctors, and that by default convinced the majority. Yeah. Anyways, so three ms started doing some research. They started saying, okay, we're we're making a lot of this p fasts and let's be honest, it's pretty sketchy. We know it's sketchy. We should look into this a little bit and figure out how sketchy this stuff really is. So three AM starts doing some research and threem says, okay, let's get a group of our workers in our factory that are manufacturing p fasts and be like, hey, we're gonna take some of your blood, your toes and your fingers. They said, we're gonna take some of your blood. And they said, this is a weird thing for my employer to be doing right now. Yeah, I also to say it that way too. Have Uh hi, hey it's me. I know we don't know each other. I'm Ellie from HR here with Dom and he's gonna run through what's going to happen today. So you receive the package in the mail today, If you could just open that up real quick. You'll notice that there is a syringe and a bag and some tubing. All you need to do is I actually can't do this bit. I'm not joking because I'm going to pass out as soon as you said so I can't do that bit, and we have to move on. I'm sorry. I thought all the things where Dom was just gonna be like, we're going to take your blood, but then you started talking about the process of taking the blood and I can't do that. I'm sorry. Anyway, let's talk about something else. I'm a big, bad, scaredy boy. So yeah, they went around don't take your blood. They went around the company and they took blood samples from a bunch of their employees to measure. Is that legals what I'm saying, can your employer just come to you one day? I mean, this is the fifties. Is this voluntary or are they like, hey, we gotta take your blood. They walked in and they were like, oh, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying, like, you know they're doing it the proper way. They send you to a person who does it right. I can't answer that question. This is if you is it legal for your employer to say, hey, we require some blood work. I'm sure that's not It might be actually because they drug test you. They can't drug test you. Yeah, and so I'm work so well if if they think if they they might have to have product successfully not gotten my blood drawn since twenty fifteen, that's pretty impressive, employer. It's because I cry and scream a lot in their doctor's office when they go hey, and I go, and then I rampage. I break a lot of stuff in the office. They had to put me in the kids room. This is actually real. When I go get my blood drawn, you know, they had to put me in the kids room. So I'm sitting there like the monkeys and giraffes and elephants and stuff are painted on the wall. This is I'm not making this up. I'm like, in the kids room. Why did they put you there? Because I don't know because I said, I said, hey, I'm going they okay, put this kid in the kid room. I'm serious. When they come and take my blood, I literally look them in the face and I say I'm going to pass out and they go oh sure, and I go no, no, no, no, I'm telling you for my safety. Yeah, and also mostly yours because I'm going to typically a lot smaller than I am, And I go, I need to be doing this laying down and they go okay, and then I go good night. Every time. Jeez, that's well, what happened to you? Did somebody take a bunch of blood? I don't know. One time I was with an X and her mom and they had to she had to get blood drawn for something or walking out to the parking lot. I wasn't in the room when the other blood. They were talking about it. Yeah, and as they're talking about it, I passed out in the parking lot face. I chipped this tooth back here. It is sawed down because I faced down. I've never even heard that story on the asphalt. And you know what she did was instead of helping me or getting down and making sure I was fine, she jumped in the car and started praying in tongues. I woke up to her being like, you know, I'm not joking. I think I know that hilarious, Yeah you do. That's incredible. So it's the fifties and it's okay for your employer to just walk in and be like, we need some of your blood and so they took before they made that illegal, they took They took a bunch of the employe's blood, taken it and they started testing it to see you can either give it to us, we'll take it, take it. Uh. So they started testing a bunch of the employees blood to see how much Pefast was in their blood. Quite a bit, and they like, okay, we now have a good sample to see how much p fat is in the blood of people who are working with Fast regularly. And they said, now we need to go get a control group to test this. Okay, And so they went outside into the city and they tested it, and they said, into the city on the street, excuse me your blood. I think vampires would go a lot further if they were just polite about it. You're just up just kind of people. Don't come up and be like, hey man, hard times need some blood. Just come up and tell me ask and I would like to they make it up further, you know, yeh, some guy on the trade is asking me for my blood. Well did you did you give him? He sounds like he nicely, I don't know what you want from me. Pretty rude of you not to at this point give them some blood blood. So they went across the community and lo and behold, the local community the amount of p fasts in their blood matched to their employees. And they said, that's peculiar. So they widened the circle a little bit, and the same thing. And they widened the circle a little more, and it was the same thing. Eventually, they were pulling from the entire country and it was the same thing. So they started going global, different continents, and it was the same content of pe fast in the blood. And they concluded that they could not find a control group because it had proliferated so much across the globe that we all had that we all have major concentrations of pea fast in the blood. So they started studying. They were like, sometimes our episodes just give me a lot of hope for the future. So they started studying. Okay, well what does what's a safe amount of pea fast in the blood? Because there was like some variants, like, right, there's some people u there were some people who had like seventy parts per jillion. There were some people who had like one part per billion, you know, So it's like different amounts, sure, some much more, some significant, but everybody had some so they started studying how much they thought was an okay amount, and in the early sixties they concluded that one part per billion was a safe amount. I want to pass one part per billion. You've got too much? Which one part per billion not pretty small, not much. It was compared recently, I heard in a documentary is compared to a single drop of water in an Olympic sized swimming pool was one part per billion. So you would be over the limit if you just took a drop of p fasts okay. And so then they called it their friends at DuPont and they said, hey, DuPont, guys, quick question this p fast. What have you guys been doing with like your excess or your left dovers like jump in the water supply That's exactly what they said, Like, oh we're just dumping in the river. Oh my gosh, dude. And they said you should do that. Stop. Yeah, They're like, you should stop doing that for sure, at all costs, do not dump that in the river. And DuPont's like, cool, bro, And they just kept doing it. Do you know what they told on the phone? I don't remember. I should have taken notes on that phone, to be honest with you and my last darby I took said put I don't know a thing. I gotta tell you what I did twenty seconds ago. I can't tell you how this conversation. There's no blood in my body. No blood right now. Tod for hr is not licensed to take way too much blood out of all I think they said, put more in the river. He said dump all your pea fast in the river. And I said, okay, I hit the emergency river. It checked button. It's like it's like this next to the phone, right, So he goes, okay, we will not Oh comment. That was a poor place to talk the phone. Should not have put the phone next to the pee fast. But has diet cocpond invented yet? I needed? I need something to take the coke. I am so anxious about the number of beef fast. A cigarette, A cigarette you can still do tho and a glass of milk. A cigarette and a glass of milk. Stat nothing pairs with a good cigar. We should ask for a glass of milk. Jack and milk. Get a jack of milk. I want one part per billion jack. It's so much or like an Olympic pool. Olympic pool of milk Speaking of Olympic pool Jack, I looked up today how they're going to lay out the twenty twenty eight Olympics Angelis. Yeah, because I'm going to live there. How's that going to be? Uh? Do you know where the pool is going to be? Your neighborhood? Pools? Is my house? They're gonna left at my house put the pool there. No, it's uh, it's the USC Baseball stadium. They're going to put a pool in the in the base and turn it into a Hey that's clever. Cool. It's always interesting to me with these Olympic villages because some places like they just like build all this stuff that's never going to get used again. Oh yeah, but like LA, we don't got room to do that in LA. So they're just gonna have to use them and stuff. Yeah, stify the baseball stadium to be a pool, that's pretty wild. Speaking of pools, Brie and I used the pickleball courts here the other day yesterday. Oh yeah here, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, what'd you think? It was pretty fun? Uh? She destroyed me zero to four. Uh. Every game just absolutely obliterated me. So I'm really proud of you for admitting that every time you tell stories on this podcast, you could just lie. That's right. I destroyed her four to zero, not even close, and it was great. And what was frustrating about it is she so she got a new gym membership yesterday and she's like starting on this new fitness journey, journey I've been online for about a year. She is a better athlete than me, true, always has been, always will be. But I felt like yesterday we haven't played a game together in a while, like a physically, you felt like all the training we've done, I felt like I felt like I'm in better shape than her right now. I'm definitely in better shape than her right now. But she's a better but she's a better, but she's a better, she's a better athlete. Alex is in there like buddy, she's a better athlete than me. And so on the way there, she's like, who do you think's gonna win this? I was like, oh, I'm gonna win this. And we got there and she obliterated me. And I haven't ran as hard on the treadmill all year than I did the treadmill. The treadmill, how do you say it? Treadmill? Treadmill? I I will I look like I was training for the Olympics today. I have such I have just a renewed fervor, and it's all for not. I'm never gonna be able to beat her. She's better than me at anything, athletics stuff. But man ah, anyways, that destroyed her ford to zero. Uh So, yeah, you're right, you're right, and she's like to cut out all this stuff where I told the truth. I to play and pick a ball. Yeah you've played her before, Yeah, I helped my own. Yeah, she's pretty good. She's athletic. She's she is very athletic, and she she is like because she was a she was like a very serious athlete grown up, and she like takes sports very seriously, especially when she plays against dudes, because she like has this thing where she's like, I got to put you in your place. Sure, so she just like she does not hold back and she will embarrass you. She embarrassed me. It is me a lot. There's never tryout. Well, she a lot of her friends play for the Current's what I'm saying. She's kind of in Yeah, I don't know she can go try out anyways. Uh So you're in good enough shape to play for the for professional soccer. No, no, okay, give me three years of training. I hate you three years. Three years, I think three years. Yeah, give me three years, Give me a trainer, give me a program. And like if I if I can commit myself, like if I'm saying like that's all I'm doing, I could get there in three years. And I think that of anybody. I think you give anybody a trainer, you get you clear their schedule, they don't have to do anything else. Three years to train, I think anybody could get there. Cool, unless you're like thirty five plus. That's tough. That changes, yeah, tough anyway. Drugs what you said, I said you would need performance enhancing Yeah. Yeah at thirty five plus, definitely so so aking you have tho. I considered even thinking about steroids lightly. Are we gonna do it? Are we gonna do steroids? No? So, don't do steroids. Don't do steroids? Uh what are we talking? Okay, So, so there's a community in Michigan called Oakdale, community of Michigan called Oakdale, Minnesota. Moron idiot, Hey, thanks for checking out with this episode. If you're enjoying this, let me recommend Timothy Dexter It's one of my favorite episodes, not just because the contents great, but because it was our live episode. We shot that in front of a live audience, just like Doctor Phil. It was awesome. You won't believe anyways, thanks for me here, all right. What happens in Oakdale? Oatdale has a lake there called Lake Elmo, Okay, and Lake Elmo is where three M and DuPont had been dumping a lot of their p fasts p fest. I don't know if I mentioned this. This is where teflon comes from. Yeah, yeah, as a p fast we mentioned then say teflon. Okay, we're gonna use the word teflon, but that's that's what it is. They've been dumping all their p fasts in there, and the majority of the community's got cancer. And everyone always thought it was weird that the majority of the people there have cancer. They thought it was like something genetic or something like that. But it was the lake and it was because they got their drinking water from the lake because the pfast is that were getting dumped into the lake. And the local high school had a bunch of kids that we're getting cancer and kids you have parents who got cancer, and so it was like a like an epademic. It was like a whole thing. It really was. Yeah, And there was one specific child who she was became like a person who like campaigned against the use of p fats and she ended up passing away, but in her honor, like a community came together and a non profit organization came together that was able to actually outlaw the main p fast that was used in these original DuPont chemicals and the three M chemicals. This is early two thousands. These were pfa o's and pfos, so they were two types of p fasts. Cis OK, there are two specific kinds. And what was interesting is the way that the e p A is set up is the e p A was able to outlaw these two specific types of p fasts, but they weren't able to outlaw p fasts as a whole. Three AM and DuPont did is they created new p fasts. So they they created what's called gen X, and that is the gen x you're thinking of. They're not people chemicals. Yeah, No, they're not the people. They're not the generation. They are a new chemical that they're using to do exactly what they were doing before with p facs. And so they're still in all of these products, but they're not the pfoas and the pfas that got dumped in that lake that got dumped in the lake and got outlawed. But it's the same thing. And so they've basically been able to outlaws something that just made a new thing. It's like a hydra. You kill one, two new heads pop up, and because the way the law is set up, there's no way to just outlaw it as a whole. So it's become a thing where basically they have to change the law that allows the EPA to just cut it all off, but that you don't have that law right now. Sure, so anything that you own that is water resistant or stain resistant, or non stick or grease resistant anything like that probably still has p fast in it, but it's just not the original p faest and it's just the contact with it that gives us cancer. Like I don't have to eat my jacket, Okay. So that's that's what's interesting. You can from touch end up getting some p fasts in your system. What is interesting is a lot of the non stick and the water resistant stuff is there's a like formula that's used to stick that to you, and you're not exposing any of that into the air by just wearing that, it's not it's not a danger to you by wearing that. You'd have to turn it into like a liquid basically or a gas for that to be a problem to you. The stuff that's used in your food, though, like in food containers, like your popcorn in the microwave, that is something that's actually a concern. But more than anything, the biggest concern is the byproducts that are ending up in waterways or even ending up anywhere else. Because what happens is this somehow and through some form or another, ends up in a waterway or ends up in the water cycle and evaporating and being in the rain and so. And it's become such a widespread thing that it literally does not matter where you are on earth today, you're going to end up with some of this coming in contact with you and ending up in your blood. It's an unavoidable thing. The ulnerly way in the tree book, this is real how how rain gets further inland. Yeah uh, and how trees can change the atmosphere around them, so like you know how it's very cloudy and rainy all the time, with the Pacific Northwest. Yeah, okay, it's because those pine trees release a chemical into the air that is a dense molecule that collects water. And so that molecule, the water molecule stick to it, which makes the clouds thick, and then they condense and more rain. Interesting and so that can happen further inland. So then those those trees do that. These trees here have that like a different molecule releasings that wind. That wind blows those clouds over still captures here. That's insane. So they're like, so if you cut all those trees down the Pacific Northwest, it probably wouldn't be right. It rain as much. That is bonkers? Is that how they're doing the Heart program? What the Heart program? I thought of doing an episode on this before. I don't know what the Heart program is. That's what they're like changing the weather. The government's changing the weather. The government's like causing her. No, they're not, Oh my gosh, it's the Heart Program. I try to share fun facts. The thing you saying that means it's possible. Yeah, So anyway, maybe the trees are trying to kill us with p fast. So here's what's interesting. Everybody's got in their blood is unavoidable. If you drink water, you're probably drinking a little bit of p fast every time you drink some water. And the EPA has actually so three Am said, we think it's one part per billion is the safe limit if you're above one three parts. Well, what the EPA said is they rolled that back and they said, oh, it's actually seventy parts per trillion, and so it's basically a trillionth of what that they head the safe amount to have in your system. And so basically any amount if he's like, basically any amount and your system is a dangerous amount to have in your system. We all have a little bit of our system. Most people have about a thousand parts per billion. What, Yeah, you're like way over, way over the limit. I'm blowing a point eight on right now. Yeah, you're way over point zero eight. It's point zero. Yeah, we're poing a point eight geez or maybe it's point eight. I don't know. It's point zero point zero, Alex, point zero, thanks, Alex. Alex has not answered any of my questions. Every time I said, Alex would just be like, I don't care, Alex, Ah, right, so the only thing that they think iver observed. Huh do you think he's okay in there? I don't know, he's dead there. He dubbed a bunch of pea fasts in that closet before this. Yeah, he's a lobster. He's got a lobster hands, a lobster running our switchboard. It's great. So, the only way we've ever ever observed, the only possible way we've ever observed of lowering the p fast count in our blood, there's one way we've observed prayer really close pregnancy. Uh, could you just on that? That's exactly what you're just the only thing we've ever observed that lowers the p fast count in your blood is having a child, giving it to the and mothers. My gosh, they actually transfer it through breastfeeding as well. And so the child increases their p fast count and the mother decreases their p fast count. And what's interesting is that for her in that p fast and the response of what happens in the child to this the p fast is they have a lower weight at birth, they have child OBCD, there's increased risk of a miscarriage, and then they actually have what they've discovered as a lot of these children that have a higher p fast account they have early onset puberty, which is pretty crazy. Okay, that was how early? I don't know anything like speaking of early on set puberty when I was in middle school. Kidding No. We did an episode a while ago, a long time, several years ago at this point was twenty it was, it might have been pre twenty twenty. It was an early early episode. I remember as being You're in your room, but that was not that we moved there in twenty nineteen. Guest room the guess from in twenty twenty. Sure, yep, because my roommate moved out in February twenty twenty, and I had like a bunch of shows booked, and I was like, this is gonna be great. I finally live on my own. I just doubled my rent, which is, you know, it's now six hundred dollars more each month. But I got a lot of shows booked. It's going to be a good year. And then not so anyway, it was twenty twenty, okay, so four years ago, four years ago. Yeah, And we did an episode about Ittalia Grace Barnett, who there was a and this was before there was no documentary about her. There wasn't no it was she had been on Doctor Phil at that point, right, Yes, there was a lot of There was some controversy over this couple adopted a Ukrainian daughter who is a dwarf and got a lot of medical conditions and all this stuff, and they became convinced that she was not in fact a seven year old girl, but she was a twenty two year old woman pretending to be a little girl. And we did a whole episode about this, and you know, told the whole story, and we talked about the theories and whatever. Right, there is all the whole story as it was as it was at the time. Yeah, that we knew at the time. Okay, so there's an HBO documentary about this. You watched season one? I watched one. Yeah, okay, so season one sets up that same stuff. They're showing a bunch of footage and there's a lot of time in this documentary that you're like, is she a twenty two year old? That's quite crazy? And that was kind of the feeling before. It was like it was like you didn't know when we when we did it, you didn't know who was telling the truth. Even in season one, you didn't know, you know, and you're like, this is was kind of like, this is crazy. I'm telling you. We just finished season two. This week season two, she is interviewed, and I am telling you that when you see adult Metallia speaking on camera, you realize immediately that that was a little girl the whole time. The whole time. So if you go back to listen to that episode, we speculate, uh, and I want you to know, we now know, I know now we were super wrong. I don't know she is definitely because I mean it's like, when you see her now, you go, that's an adult. Yeah, And then when you see the videos of her as a kid, you go, that's her as a child. But the first season, you know, it is kind of not hard to tell. But I mean, like if you don't see her as an adult and you only see this footage and you go, maybe that is an adult because they put her next to other kids and stuff. She did look a little older, yeah, and no, but when you see her now you go. There was a lot of peculiar things in the story, right, But I think one of the most interesting parts about the story from the beginning is that the parents seem to be trying to set up this storyline, this as an adult. So that's what they're talking about here, is that they realized in this new season they talk about their which the first season documentary is insane, that her adopted father can get out of the trial because in the jury they weren't allowed to. They re aged her. They legally reate her to be twenty two years old, which is nuts that you can do that. And that's the stuff that I'm like, oh crap, they did that to a nine year old girl. That nine year old was living by herself in an apartment. Yeah. And so anyway, when you see her as an adult, you immediately throw out the whole story because before you could be like, I don't know, there's a lot of questions. You know, when as she grows up, you go, oh, you're not done growing Yeah. Also, two, they talked to her childhood dentist who pulls up the X rays and shows this is clearly a child's mouth, you know, all these adult teeth underneath it, and the dentist didn't know that they had reaged her. Oh my god. Wild stuff. So anyway, it's wild that they had like this trial and everything, and they didn't bring any of the experts in that were like, a ye, your pediatrician or her dentists, because they somehow got it thrown out, the reaging thing because legally, even now, she is still legally thirty three years old. That's crazy. So when you go back to real listening to that episode, it's worth listening to the episode and go watch the documentary to get the full story. But then when you watch the new season of the documentary and you see, oh, this was just child abuse. So clearly what happened was a couple adopted a special needs child. They realized that the special needs child is going to need a lot of effort for her special needs, and they were legally responsible for her until she turned twenty one. Yeah, so they reaged her to twenty two so they wouldn't be responsible for anymore. Yeah, it's very sad. Yeah, that's crazy, and they're just getting away with it so far. That's wild. It's crazy. So anyway, I felt like we needed to do a quick update. Yeah, I'm glad you did that. I haven't watched the documentary yet, so when you watch it, tell episode one, you'll watch it and you go bad. Twenty two year old girl right there. Yikes, yikes. And that's kind of the moral of the story of the Pfast thing too. If you got enough money, or if you really just try hard enough, you can make the law do whatever you want the law to do. That's what three am and do for forever. And they're still doing it. They're still dumping p foss into our planet, and we're all getting infected with a ridiculous amount of it, and it causes cancer, and it breaks people's bodies down in a ridiculous amount of way and makes them lose to their spouses and pickleball. It's got a lot of side of That side effect is one that a lot of people don't recognize. It's pretty rampant, full of peace. Yeah. So if you're wondering what can I do about it, the answer is nothing. You really can't. This isn't one of those shiny fun episodes where it's like just recycle more. Yeah, No, there's really It's not on us. It's on the corporations that rule us. It's on our rulers. And then if you just it's in everything, it's in your We suffer together, join our discord and whine about it. Anyways, the only way to stop them is to fiddle them on. Hey, thanks for making it to the end of this video. If you like this and you want more episodes, there's more somewhere around here, and also clips from the show. But make sure you subscribe. Please do that. That really helps us. It makes us feel good. We look at the number and we go, oh my gosh, there's more people who like us. And it also just make sure that you don't miss episodes in the future because we put these out every single week and there's so many in the past, so many old episodes you can go watch. You know, there's an entire season of episodes that we didn't have a video for, so you can go listen to those if you'd like to as well. 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A new chemical compound discovered in the 1950s called per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, or PFAS, has quietly infiltrated nearly every corner of our lives. Marketed under the household name “Teflon,” PFAS at first seemed like a miracle invention – resistant to heat, stains, water, and even insects. It was the perfect coating for cookware, waterproof clothing, food packaging, and more. But over time, disturbing health effects have come to light.

When PFAS were first created, manufacturers like 3M and DuPont could not wait to find uses for these “forever chemicals” that never break down in the environment. They began producing massive quantities of PFAS compounds and incorporating them into consumer products without hesitation. Even when 3M studied the blood of its own employees and found high PFAS levels, the company ramped up production instead of sounding the alarm.

Today PFAS are truly ubiquitous. They have spread across the globe through air and water currents, accumulating in our blood faster than our bodies can eliminate them. PFAS are linked to cancer, high cholesterol, liver damage, and reduced fertility. The EPA warns that there is no known safe level of exposure. Yet avoiding PFAS entirely is nearly impossible when they lurk in everything from microwave popcorn bags to dental floss.

Particularly egregious is the contamination of drinking water sources near PFAS manufacturing plants. For example, residents of Oakdale, Minnesota unknowingly ingested PFAS for decades through their municipal water supply, drawn from a river where 3M dumped its waste chemicals. Only after years of soaring cancer rates did the truth come to light. Yet companies like 3M continue to produce similar “forever chemicals” even after specific compounds like PFOA were banned.

The shocking lack of ethics and utter disregard for public health displayed by PFAS manufacturers is appalling but not surprising. As with leaded gasoline, cigarette smoking, and other toxic profit-driven industries of the past, companies have repeatedly buried evidence and misled consumers about dangers. And the EPA continues to play catch-up, unable to ban entire classes of harmful chemicals.

Today, PFAS are so widespread that simply living exposes you to unhealthy levels. But holding corporations accountable and passing tougher environmental regulations can help turn the tide. Until then, we are all involuntary test subjects in a massive chemical experiment with devastating costs to human life.

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