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00:00 Hey, this is things I learned last night. This week we learned about Havana Syndrome, a conspiracy that says that there are I don't know a truth, the idea that there are diplomats in the United States who are being attacked by some kind of high pitch noise that leaves lasting brain damage. Yes, yeah and we have like genuine paperwork to follow this trail. It's not a conspiracy theory. Okay, sure 00:23 this episode comes out October twenty nine. What do you got going on? Jaren speaking of following the paper trail, you can follow the ticket sales to discover that October twenty nine. Oh yeah happy, but that happy seven years to tillin. How about that? Is it seven or eight? It's been seven years. Oh, I thought it was a been seven long cash next year and anyway this weekend I'll be in Canada, so they don't get our podcasts up there. I make sure of it and then next weekend I think I have off and then the weekend after that yeah. The church comedy tours all of November, so 00:52 come hang out will be in Virginia, South Carolina, Florida, Texas, Kansas and Georgia would love to see you there. Please, please, please, please come to these shows because this is this is a big deal for me, and if these shows don't sell out, I don't know mentally what I'll do, so I will. It's going to be a dark December at our house. I don't 01:20 anyway, so come to the shows. It'd be a great time. Thanks for checking out the show. 01:27 Hey man, hey dude, hey last episode you look like one kind of uncle and now you look like the other kind of uncle. 01:38 you know saying I yeah when both walk in the house you're like oh that uncle's here. I walk into the house. Your mom goes I didn't know he was coming on invite him, didn't think he'd show yeah. I really was hoping really was count on. I'm not coming to this. If they both show up to Thanksgiving yeah, it's messed up yeah and they're both both of them are like I'll be here for another three weeks. I'll be here till Christmas and they don't say that to your mom. They said that to you yeah yeah. 02:07 yeah loud enough that your mom can hear and she goes. Oh your dad's like. Can I talk to you in the kitchen and then and then your dad's not there for the next couple weeks yeah yeah, but no one knows where he is at the best western in town and he comes he comes back for dinner and he literally just walks in eats 02:30 fifteen minutes walks out gets a paper plate gets another paper plate puts it on top and then walks out. It's dinner to go from it. So now it's a topic this week. Have you heard of a non of anomalous health incidents? Anomalous health incidents anomalies? Yes, also known as Havana syndrome. No, you haven't heard of this. Oh, that's kind of 02:59 I'm kind of excited that you haven't heard this close. That's that is a syndrome, having a syndrome, a syndrome. I'm kind of surprised you haven't heard of this honestly, knowing who you are, but here I should say this is an interesting topic because is this like people who end up talking with different accents and stuff? No this is an episode that I thought about doing an episode on in twenty eighteen. 03:29 so like very early for our podcast and I want you to for a second in your brain. Remember twenty eighteen Tim and the episodes that twenty eighteen Tim chose to do and in twenty eighteen I researched this topic and I got to a point where I was like this is just a conspiracy theory. This isn't real and now this year you get to a point where your two thousand and eighteen discernment was like this is a conspiracy theory. This isn't real. Yes, yeah in two thousand and eighteen 03:58 okay, but this year some things have happened to you. No, no in in this storyline about six months ago, some some things happened. Something happened that made me be like oh, maybe they were right. You know how that happens with conspiracy theory. Sometimes okay, what happened? So I'll tell you what it is and then we can kind of go through the story. All right, let's just go through this sure sure sure sure. So this started in twenty sixteen when a 04:28 group of United States and Canadian diplomats at the embassy in Havana, Cuba, which should be noted that was brand new at the time because we did not have diplomatic relationships with Cuba right forever, and then during Obama's presidency, we opened that door, set up this embassy, and we were there for. I don't know how long a year or two years before this happened. There's a group of Canadian and US diplomats that 04:58 reported an event and in this event they heard a loud ringing noise and that was described in a couple different ways. The descriptions of this were either a loud ringing noise like in a movie when a bomb goes off and the main character is like yeah so it's described that way but was also described by some people as like a pulsating 05:26 noise like a consistent high pitch sounds okay, this new bit that I do to people where I just hold up my phone and I go hey, you want to hear my new song and then I just 05:44 and they're like till they're like. I don't hear anything and I'm like oh oh you have old ears. Oh yeah. The pitch is really high here. This unless you're y'all pitch is pretty high. Sorry, that's kind of another bit. I'm trying to do. I chickened out today, but I try. I'll show you a video is. I'm trying to do this thing called lying to uber drivers. What I think it'd be funny. I think it'd be funny. I chickened out today because the guy was really nice. 06:14 but I would love because I told her my group in Chicago and then I said we moved. I said we moved because my house got broken into okay. He goes really I was like yeah, I mean it was bad as Christmas time and I started. I was sure I was going to try to convince this guy that home alone happened to me. What was your life and and then I chickened out because I was like ah. This is kind of 06:41 you know English is in his first language. Oh yeah, it just it was like I don't. I want to do this to someone who there's not the language barrier where it's like this looks like I'm making fun of you because you don't yeah, you get what I'm saying. Yeah is I wanted it to be like you. You're not going to. You might not know this movie for other reasons. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, but that would be really funny. You're like yeah, but I son like 07:04 set up these booby traps. This one's ready to do. No, I was trying to be like I said these booby trap. I got away from these two robbers, then I was going to try to this thing. I was like man. I've been trying to get on the foot. I you know I went to college, you know I did and I was trying to get on the football team yeah and thinking I could never. I was no matter how much I tried. I was like come on man coach put me in. I'm ready. You know I was mowing like the field 07:34 every week and then like and then one day do it. The whole team was like chair in that's hilarious. Yeah, I was like I was a missionary in the jungle and there was this dude that we met there. Yeah, it was like like, but like it wasn't a dude. It was like a it was like a human, but he was also kind of like a gorilla a little bit and like he actually fell in love with my girl. 08:04 And she stayed. I was like, Jane. 08:09 and so I shouldn't use her name yeah, but isn't that funny to try to convince really an uber driver that a movie is my life, so I was good because I'm trying to think of my my wife as a twitch streamer. You can follow her regan in Myers on twitch and so I was trying to think of things that I could do on live. 08:26 and that's something that I want to start doing is I just want to go live on Instagram really hey guys, it's time to lie to another uber driver get in and see how far I can take it yeah before I get caught. I love that that's a good bit. I do like that bit. I do like that, but so anyway, tell your Havana story. Yeah, so they were these bits I was trying, so they're hearing this ringing sound and then they feel like this pressure in their inner ear and they describe it like it like if you took a q tip too far in yeah, yeah, 08:55 I feel that feeling and then they start to get like a pulsing headache yeah, and then a lot of times it's accompanied with nausea afterwards. Most of them they had they got nauseous and so here's an animation of what this syndrome might 09:14 it's just a brain that looks like it hurts. You're going to do like the front of a this is the this is on an aspirin yeah. This is an aspirin bar bottle. It's like does your head feel like this and it's just a brain blowing up. It feels like my brain is getting electrocuted, but they're the first person in this they call him patient zero because is the first person that we on run record that this happened to. He actually has had like serious 09:43 lifelong effects out of this. He went blind in his left side okay, and his hearings almost gone in his left side, and now what's strange is he can't balance on his own. He has to wear a weighted jacket where the jacket is like shifted the weight one side, because his librium yeah is off and he can't balance. I can see in your eyes of where you're like. Please help me say this word. Please say this word for me like his. Say this word for me equilibrium. Oh yeah, equal 10:13 Equal Warium, Equal Equator, and so this happened a couple of times at the embassy in Cuba. Here's a picture of the embassy in Cuba with the cop from cars. 10:28 okay. It looks like the Harvey Casino actually kind of is this an AI image. No, this is a real image. Okay, that car does look funky though. I do. I will say the front end of that car looks a little weird. What yeah, I thought it's like the uncanny valley got you, but anyways, so this happens a couple more times in Cuba and then over the course of the next couple years, it starts happening more and more 10:53 to different United States diplomats around the world. It happens in Australia, it happens in Georgia, not the state, the country. Where they're like getting these headaches? They're hearing this high pitched sound and then they're getting these headaches and then they have the same sort of long term effects. Their vision goes in one side, their hearing starts to go. The biggest, most common thing is the balance. So many of them can't balance on their own anymore and most of them, it is so debilitating that they can't. 11:21 be a diplomat anymore. Their job they like have to retire from their role happen to Joe Biden. He can't balance anymore. Well, one of the effects that a lot of them talk about that they they have a hard time remembering words and so they're sitting there and they're like they're like what's that word? You know what I'm trying to say, so what I do all the time actually yeah. Did I get a van a what's the other word for Havana Syndrome or a non 11:50 anomalous health incidents. Yeah, so that's yeah, that's the politically correct term for it. 12:03 okay, so this day is very quiet and the government starts. There's some like underground movement in the government and to like protect their people from this, but it doesn't hit the news. It's only happening to Americans, well and those Canadians, okay, that were also at they were there at the time and so it's kind of like they just happened to be there. You know if they weren't there, what i have happened to him. What's really significant about this? I forgot to mention is that the the sound 12:33 is very localized and so they could be in one like the sound is in the corner of the room and they could walk away from that corner to the other corner. They can't hear it anymore, but then they go back to that corner, they hear it again and the same feeling is there and so it's not like you can't hear it in the whole say that's very strange. So the U S appears to kind of start to protect its people from this and 12:58 there's like some memos where they're talking about not until like 2022, but these memos got released but it wasn't public until 2017 that Patient Zero came forward and started talking about and how he had to leave his post. 13:28 puts out a whole story about it. And it pretty quickly becomes like a conspiracy theorist fodder and it becomes this crazy story of like, oh, this other nation and these people are doing this and messing people's heads, you know. 13:44 And that's kind of... 13:48 that's kind of where it is and in twenty eighteen when I found this, I was like man. This is crazy, like basically what the conspiracy theorists were saying was China had developed a ray gun that they were shooting at our United States diplomats to mess up their brains and I and I saw that I was like this seems pretty far fetched and so after looking into it, I decided in twenty eighteen I'm not going to cover this, but in 14:18 in twenty nineteen. There was a special committee held on this in congress with the a group of individuals and experts, a group of individuals from the defense, defense intelligence agency that decided they were going to go ahead and investigate this further sure, and they came before congress and basically got permission to go do a large scale investigation and probe the pentagon and find more people yeah. 14:47 who had this happen to them and in two thousand and twenty two that report came out and the report is very interesting because they they were able to locate fifteen hundred members of the United States government that this has happened to. What's interesting about these people is they all are diplomats that work for either the FBI, CIA or D O D. 15:13 and they have been stationed overseas or sometimes in the states. And what's interesting, the connection that the Defense Intelligence Agency made is that all of them, either in their recent career or on their most recent assignment, was something related to Russia, every single one of them. And they all reported very similar events where they were... 15:40 somewhere on assignment or even at their own home. And they heard this piercing noise and it was followed by all of those effects. And many of them, it was so intense that, and it led to such a long-term effects that they ended up having to medically retire from their role. And there was, what was interesting is in this report, they noted that these individuals, they're like, there's no low ranking individuals. There's no, not even mid-level individuals. Make these people? 16:09 no that are that it's happening to he's. They said only happening to the. These are here like these are our best of the best. These are our top five percent. So are you? Are you saying this is related to the pagers? So that's interesting. I do have a note on that. We'll get to that in a little okay, okay, okay, 16:28 So these, they recount all these stories, and they do get a handful of witnesses to come forward and talk about this. And many of them come forward to talk to 60 Minutes in 2022, and they do interviews with 60 Minutes. I've watched all these 60 Minutes episodes. What was very interesting, well, actually sidebar, there was a woman that has happened to, there was a woman that this happened to, she is not a member of the US government, but her husband is a diplomat. 16:58 they were stationed overseas, she was at home, and she was doing laundry, and she heard that sound hit, and she said that the sound knocked her over. It was so intense then, and it hit so hard that it knocked her over. And she gets up and she walks to the other room, and I should note, she was one of the most monotone individuals I've ever heard speak, and she used very, like, I don't know what the right word is. The first word that comes to mind for me is explicit, but it's not explicit. Like, it's like. 17:27 Yeah, like she's just very direct and precise and monotone and she's like she's like I was standing in a laundry room fold. This is too. That's too much tone. I was standing in the laundry room folding on holding laundry and then then the Whirlpool laundry machine turned against me 17:45 I do believe the China was involved shot in the laundry. We should show me the Reagan, but she in the most monotone voice, the most monotone. If you don't, if you don't empty the land trap, gun comes out, your ray gun goes empty, the Lutra empty, the Lutra or else I blow up your brain. 18:09 If you've been watching for a minute and you like this show, a great way to help out is by becoming a Patreon supporters. Our patrons get a ton of perks for their support. They get ad free episodes a week early. 18:21 We do monthly hangouts. There's a way to get birthday messages on your birthday. There's a lot of great perks, but more than anything, you just help make sure that this show continues to happen forever. We never want to stop. We're going to keep doing this forever. If we have enough patron supporters, we can put our brains in those little vats and like have AI pretend it's us. And so like we can keep doing it long after we die, but that only happens if you support us on Patreon. So we appreciate your support. Thanks for your help. If you don't want to support, that's totally fine. Thanks for being here. We really appreciate you watching the show. 18:54 and so the she she says the most monotone terms. What happens if she's like she's like I felt this intense pain. I walked from the laundry room to the bathroom and then in the most monotone voice, I laughed out loud and I should have, but I laughed out loud because of the most monotone voice being so direct. She's like I walked to the bathroom and I projectile vomited all over the bathroom, so monotone, so direct, so cold faced, just other people suffering makes him laugh. 19:22 sorry, you can other people suffering so funny. Puking is a I was holding the laundry. I heard this sound and then I walked to the bedroom and projectile vomited across the there's nothing funny like she's like like a bedtime story audio book reader. Yeah, yeah, kind of close your eyes. It was just how monotone she was and how direct she was with her terms. 19:52 then to just say projectile, vomiting or walking to do. There is only sleep and projectile vomiting to do and so in her case, what was interesting is her case. They dug up was actually twenty fourteen, so it's before we had a rule at twenty no projectile vomiting yeah, no, not a lot. No, we had a rule because like kids wouldn't hydrate right, and so it was like all right. We have we have like Gator is we got like the sugary drinks, whatever, but you can't have those until you drink to 20:22 like glasses of water yeah like you got to have two glasses of water with your with your meal before you can drink one of those yeah and so kids would chug two glasses of water and then they would start drinking their powerade and eating their food and so so many kids at lunch every day at lunch and then we did can for five days and you would you would think surely after the second day of kids doing this. 20:44 they'd be like they were to learn yeah. You know no one did day five. Kids are still just chugging the waters and then taking a swig of the blue powerade and then and then turning and projectile vomiting in the camp for 21:03 I love that and I love that you guys never told them how to do better. No, we did every day. That's what I'm saying every single day. We were like hey, don't you it's because you're chugging the water and your tiny little your tiny little fourth grade stomachs can't hold this figure this out. Quit doing that yeah and they were like they were like 21:27 I'm serious. There's nothing funnier than some. I don't feel so good Mr Myers, drink another water here, have more water, maybe jug that tug it as fast as you can. So what's significant is this story was the one in Georgia yeah and this happened in twenty fourteen K. What they found were in Georgia in twenty fourteen, not that Georgia 21:55 what is very man. Sometimes I still think about that church in Georgia in twenty fourteen. What do you think about that church and how weird that guy was to us? Yeah and why how he told us about him staying on the on the corner of the road, dresses a homeless person, during him telling us that story. I do really actually I forgot like and then and he goes and he's personally handed me a dollar had hand him a guy. I stood right outside of our church, dress as a homeless person and then each person that gave me a dollar 22:24 I would hand him a card of a good job, my good and faithful servant and then on Sunday morning I walked in here dresses at homeless first, I got on stage and I said I was out there and only a few of you saw me and he's like and I saw all of you and none of telling it dude and I was like I read this story on Facebook to dude 22:44 Yeah, we met some interesting a big crush on daughter, though. What was the what was the what was the what was the one in? I was a was one in Colorado, a high, but there was a gives me headaches is your voice. It was there was something there was one in Colorado and there was something to do with bad. Do you know what I'm talking about? There was some at the guy in Colorado had some story with bats. 23:11 and I don't remember what it was, but I remember to be like what up with the what's up with the fat? I don't remember. I just remember the bats. Do you know what I talking about? Is it in Pueblo? No, it wasn't Pueblo. It was in. Oh, I can't even gosh. I've been out of Denver so long. I don't remember what that town's called. No starts with the W Westminster. Yeah. Thank you, geez. I can't believe I forgot that and we were up in 23:40 No, because that that church and he wanted to build a parking lot. He told us about it. He wanted to build the parking. You're talking about the parking. I also told us a bat that starts with a B that's dang. I was there like every year, but I know exactly who talking about yeah and he he start. He wanted to build with the bats. Yeah, he had something about bats. I can't remember what it was though. Anyway, this this is not interesting. So in Georgia, she she has that guy thought he was going to grow his church big enough that he was going to need a parking garage next door is what that 24:09 that story was yeah, so he was a god just gave me a vision of a park. That's how he had a story lot. Yeah, it was even into claw across street and God gave me a vision of a parking garage and it was like a suburban Baptist church. It was like like. Can you imagine you in your suburb suburban neighborhood, the church building a parking garage and then you pull up and there's a homeless guy outside the parking garage and he looks a lot 24:39 like dude, pastor Dave's got a twin and he doesn't take care of him. It doesn't look for you. Yeah, that makes you look really bad. Got any change, sir, chocolate milk, 24:59 that's a call back to an old episode. Got a bad. That was that the storm he was looking for bad. Okay, no so there in Georgia. She this thing happens to her and reacted all to my the high pitch noise that gives me headaches is your voice. That's really good. I thought pretty funny, so comment below. If you thought that was when I listen back to this podcast, I list at point five speed just to lower the tone of Tim's 25:30 Honestly, honestly, I bet at point five speed is still pretty I pitched. 25:44 So in Georgia, this thing happens to her. They go back and because they're members of like the consulate, they have a lot of security cameras. They go back, they watch security camera footage. The night before, a van that they don't recognize comes up and a man gets out of the van and walks out of camera view, but they can hear him talking in Russian and what they hear him say was, it's blinking green, is that what it's supposed to do? 26:13 I love a guy who's just like yeah. Is this is that supposed to talking so loudly? It's blinking green. Is that what it's supposed to do? If you're planting a bomb somewhere, rule number one is maybe don't talk about the bomb on speaker phone and then he says and then he says, should I just leave it on all night? Oh my and then yeah and then he goes back to the car he leaves next day when it happens. She goes she projectile vomits she like and she goes 26:43 she tries blinky thing. She tries to walk across the house trips a few times because you know we still going no because remember the noise is localized, so she would only be able to hear it. She was in the laundry room okay, okay, and so she walks to the house can't really balance is trying to catch her balance looks at the window and sees that van doesn't know that it was on camera the night before yet and sees a man out there by the van. I looks like she threw up 27:10 he talks on the I can't tell if it's because the device did you two glasses of water? Did you happen to drink your water too fast or did you hear a noise? Okay, I saw this tick tock yesterday. It was a guy who was our age and it was very clearly he was in bed like was the tick tock he's filming this in bed and he's like he's like I'm an adult man. He said let's get this out of the way. I live in my mom's basement. 27:39 And he said, but here's the thing he says, I am not feeling well. It's two a.m. and I just threw up and he says, I am an adult. I am fine. I can handle this myself. But he's like, but I have this compulsion. I can't get out of my chest to go tell my mom. Mom, I threw up and he's like, I don't know if I can go back to bed without telling. I think I need to go wake her up and tell her. 28:09 Hey, hey, I don't know who said that. I don't know yelled mom. I threw up the F. I grew up. You drink your water too fast. Did you drink? Yeah, I drank three gallons just now free. I just took free gala green light was blake. It's supposed bleak like that 28:36 is supposed to blink like light, thought your mom in the morning and go. Is it supposed to blink like 28:46 what? What are you talking about? No, so yeah, so she witnesses this guy and obviously her husband, who is the US diplomat comes home and learns about all this and they report it and it becomes a thing, but then it just kind of gets far away. They don't know what to do with it. So this whole thing's happening. They quit doing their laundry for like a month, because they're scared of that room. I'm not going in there. I'm not going in there. You going in there 29:14 and their story after story in this hearing of this happening to people and multiple occasions it's happening to family members of US officials as well, because they're placing these outside people's homes right. There's one story that was particularly kind of scary. I guess is maybe the word to use where they they were stationed overseas. I think they were stationed on Australia. This happened. No, they're stationed in China. This happens in China. They go 29:42 home after the effect and they're so excited to be home and have that behind them because it was such a traumatizing experience for them and the whole family. They get home and a couple weeks go by and they hear it again, his wife wakes up to the sound. They go to their kids rooms, they have two children and they said that they could actually go walk in the room, they couldn't hear anything, they put their heads down by their kids bed and they could hear it. And then they lifted their head up and they wouldn't hear it 30:12 were waking up with bloody noses because it was having such an effect on them, and so they were like yeah, just keep going to bed, just keep sleeping there. Well, they ended up. They ended up moving into a hotel, staying at this hotel and it started happening in the hotel again, and so then they ended up getting the government moved them to some other location overseas and like hiding them, like putting them basically in witness protection and their story after story of this happening with different US government officials. Yeah 30:42 And it kind of culminated in, I believe it was March of 22, when there was supposed to be a trip with members of Biden's cabinet and Kamala Harris in Vietnam that got delayed because they got reports right before they left that there was one of these attacks is what they called it in Vietnam. A couple of officials had this happen. And so they delayed the trip. 31:10 so they could figure out the source of it And so this was a pretty, obviously a pretty big deal. And they even had medical reviews of this. examined all of these people. 31:39 maybe some people do, but essentially what they're saying is that the people who had this even read any of the words is just so blurry that there are there's charts that kind of explain what we're looking at here. They kind of look like brains. I think and so here's another graphic of what's happening so hey Alex, we take care of this. Thank you, thanks, so they had 32:08 What the National Institute of Health said they did have portions of brain matter were deteriorated. And so it was portions that had to do with sensation, And there was even portions that had to do with memory that a lot of people spoke about having 32:37 after this event, having a hard time with that and hard time recalling words and stuff like that. And so they said there's clearly, they said the majority of these people actually do show evidence of like a traumatic brain injury is what we're seeing. But there's no, like they don't recall ever getting hit over the head with something or anything like an actual physical traumatic brain injury. Sure. So the whole thing goes through, this whole hearing happens. A lot of it is very similar to this recent UFO hearing. I watched some clips where they're asked questions by Congress. 33:06 and the people who did the study are like, yeah, we can discuss that in a skiff. They're like, we can't talk about that because it's classified, but we can talk about it in a secure setting. And so a lot of it was not publicly released and talked about. And it was peculiar because after this happened, a lot of people, and especially 60 minutes from their broadcast, was like, okay, we're going to get to the bottom of this. Like, it looks very clear that something serious is happening here. There's a lot of evidence that something's happening here. And then we just didn't hear anything about it. 33:35 for multiple years, okay, completely quiet and all of a sudden the D O D starts taking the stance that this is mass hysteria. This is not actually happening. This is a group psychosis. Yeah, so what a normal stance of just gas lighting. Yeah, their stance is yeah. All of these high ranking government officials, all in your head. They said it like yeah, yeah, we know we know it's on our we've got the brain scans. No, they said they said it was. It was stress induced 34:04 and they said because there was a couple people to a hundred people, stress induced very similar injuries. They said that the stress is causing them to show physiological signs, but it's not there's nothing actually happening to them and because they're all facing the same stress and having the same thing. That's what they said to them and this has been released. Now this is the public thing. Okay, this is what they're saying publicly yeah and they're like they're like and so then because there's a category now that there's some magic device that's that's hitting their brain with the sound wave 34:32 now they're all are all attributing it to that, but that's not what's happening. Meanwhile, it continues to happen most noteworthy. It happens to some senior officials who work in the White House and it actually happened on two or three occasions in between the West Wing and I can't remember the name of this building, but one of the the government buildings and 35:00 next door to the White House, there's a secure parking lot where all the executives park. Yeah. And so they would walk down the stairs, walk across that parking lot, walk into the other building and they work in that building. There's two or three different officials where they were walking down that stairs and they heard the ringing and they lost their balance. They fell down and they had like long term effects from the same thing as same exact description, same exact experience. It wasn't this year, but I think it was twenty twenty three. Okay. And so it's like, oh, this is happening like at 35:29 the White House, like it's not just happening overseas, not just happening at our embassies, not just happening at people's homes in the United States, it's happening all over the place. And then this last year over the summer, something very interesting happened. In Florida Keys, there was a high speed chase involving this white Mustang. The police catch up with this guy, pull him over, they end up having to spike strip him, it was a chase over 100 miles an hour, covered a lot of ground. 35:59 spikes with them, he spun out, they get to him, they pull him out of the car and they end up arresting him and he's in the back seat. You can see him here from the car. So this guy in the back seat, you see his glasses kind of messed up and this seemed like what was a routine traffic stop. They like flash the lights because he was speeding. It wasn't like severely speeding, but he's speeding and then he sped off and ran. They get to his car and they start searching his car and in his car they find in his backpack. 36:27 notes and on the notes there are about a dozen different bank accounts listed on the notes with the information of those bank accounts, the routing number and the account number and the balances on these accounts at multiple different institutions. Okay. 36:57 And he seems like he's having a conversation with someone. He's talking and he's waiting and he's responding. And he's saying stuff like, well, there's the other guy that's involved. Can he handle something like this? And then he stops and he waits and he says, but a deal is a deal. And he says, we have an agreement. And he said that over and over. He kept saying, we have an agreement. We have an agreement. And then all of a sudden. 37:21 in the like in the footage from the back of the cop car. He's having this long conversation. They're searching his car. This is long. It's like thirty minutes of where he's in the back of that car by himself. His glasses fall off of his face and he doesn't continue talking. Once his glasses fall off of his face, he doesn't say another word and so it looks like there was some sort of device in his glasses that he was able to communicate with someone else from those glasses is what the theory is. Zuckerberg was like our glass were 37:49 We were the first ones. Idea! 37:56 Hey, thanks for checking out this episode. Want to let you know real quick. We have an email list and it's not like a hey, we're going to send you our merch and new episodes all the time. We actually give you updates on these stories as we find out about them. So a lot of our episodes we've done a couple years ago now have updates or the person the top was about passed away or was caught by the police or whatever updates we can find on episodes that we've done. We want to let you know about it so that our episodes just aren't 38:24 you know out there out of date. It's really fun way to keep learning new information and then every once in a while we let you know about new events coming up or new episodes and it's just a way to help us keep spreading the show. Join that email list. You can text till into six six eight six six or there's a link in the description of this episode or you can just go to till and dot com. It's very easy to join this email list. It's everywhere. It's actually really hard to not join it, so 38:57 This guy, here's what's interesting about him. He here, let me, I forgot to pull this picture of him in. He is a guy by the name of, let me make sure I get this right. Vitaly Kovalev and he is a Michelin star chef in New York City. We don't really know what him. Yeah, he's a mission star chef in New York City. Here he is on the morning news. 39:26 cooking on the morning news. And he was a pretty well-known chef in the scene, pretty public. He had an Instagram and he would post Instagram pictures. This specific appearance, he was teaching them traditional Russian dishes on the morning news. Here's the thing though. He had only been in the cooking scene in New York for two years. Before that, he was a higher ranking government official in Russia. And he, there's... 39:55 history going back of him serving in the Russian military was a proof of this at info wars dot com. No, it's this was actually in sixty minutes, sixty minutes went through. They tracked him. They showed images. I can see if I can find those images of him. You're the same thing is true about the guy who owns Mexican Villa in Springfield. He was a Russian Russian up 40:21 do you hear that ringing? Do you hear that? No, so he was a much an official. Okay. All of a sudden moves to the states, gets a job as a chef out of the blue, has no background in his history of doing any cooking, any shefing or any of that stuff. Anywhere in his life shipping and then he gets arrested for this. What are you up to? I 40:50 Sheffing just be doing some chef has been doing some sheffing and so he, but like if he's working in a Michelin star restaurant, he's actually got to be a good chef. Well, that's the thing like you. You wouldn't if you were sending over a spy to a different nation, you want to be like go work at Taco Bell. Why not? I mean you could be like go work at Taco Bell, but you're also like if you wanted him to be a mission star restaurant, you just train him. They train them. You know they got resources 41:16 that's what I'm saying low. I mean, have you seen like the what it goes into being a chef? Yeah, it's not easy but they I'm not. What I'm saying is they could have trained him sure. I don't know and it's one thing that sixty minutes was very careful to clarify on is that all this is a legend. No, what they were very careful to clarify on is that the Russian military complex is not something you just career switch from 41:45 They're like they don't let you. They don't let you go. Yeah, you don't just go like I want to go be a chef in New York. Yeah, I want to follow my dream. Yeah, that's not something you do when you were like military in Russia. Your time is done. Go ahead. Yeah, they're like yeah, you've served your nation well. Good luck, have fun out there and then you walk away and they shoot you in the back. Right, that's what Russia does. Okay, it's hard to believe that he just came over here to do that. Here's what's interesting. So he gets arrested. 42:11 The FBI is like, we want to talk to him. This is interesting. And so the FBI interviews him for 80 hours. Very long, grueling interview. We don't have any notes from that interview. It's classified. We do know that they talked to him for 80 hours. And so they end up charging him for the speeding and the cop chase and all that stuff. They don't charge him for anything else. He stays in jail for two years, goes back to Russia. Russia puts him on the front lines in Ukraine and he dies in combat. 42:42 there are questions here. Is that true? We don't know for sure if he died, if he yeah was actually put on. We have a death certificate that he was killed on the front lines in combat from them from Russia. Yeah, and so it's like that might be a lie, yeah, but also it could be a like retaliation for getting caught. That could be something that they would be like hey, you got cause it when you good luck out there. Who knows 43:12 What is interesting is the question of at this point, we now have a lot of evidence that points that this is happening. We have clear medical evidence and records that something is happening. We have fifteen hundred high ranking government officials whose testimony carries more weight than a lot of people's saying like we're counting the same story in different occasions at different places, right, not connected to one another. 43:41 And so it's very clear that something's happening, Also, there's a precedence for this. we had an embassy in Moscow, and that embassy was across the street from the Kremlin, and long story short, 44:10 because they were being radiated from the Kremlin. They were shooting radiation at them. Okay, this was something that the United States figured out about and Henry Kissinger later said that we wanted to keep it quiet. We didn't want anyone to know that this was happening. We knew what's happening. We didn't want anyone to know and so yeah, we know that they were in that checks out for this and we know that this is something that Russia's done before something similar to this. We also know that 44:40 shortly after the fall of the Soviet Union, that the United States and Russia, when there was like that brief moment where we were like, hey, let's do science together, where like NASA and then teamed up and started doing a lot of state stuff, one of the things that they started doing was directed energy weapons. And they did research on directed energy weapons together. A handful of those that we did develop, there is a microwave cannon that the United States uses to this day to disable drones. 45:08 and so we shoot it out of drones and it disables them that came from that cooperation. There is another thing called the El Rad, which is basically like a sound device that shoots sound waves that are so intense that knocks things over and break stuff sure, and then there was another thing that we actually banned. The United States was like we shouldn't use this and they called it the Medusa okay, because it turned people to stone. Basically what it did was it immobilize people 45:37 It was an energy device that shot directed acoustic waves. but it would immobilize people. They would shoot it because it would immobilize people They learned that it had long-term effects on people's brains. 46:04 this is something that we developed with Russia and we said we're not going to use this anymore and Russia was like we won't either yeah, neither will we unless you use it that we have that we will use it a lot. If you use yours, we're going to use ours but we were about as long as we don't use how the world works. Isn't that crazy that we're just like don't don't don't don't 46:33 And so that's kind of where we're at. We know that the technology kind of exists. The doctors who did this report, they don't have access to this whole story, but the doctors who did this report, they said, we think that this could be possible, that if someone was hit with an acoustic beam or directed microwave beams, it could cause this sort of damage to someone's brain. And those were their leading theories of how this was possible. 47:01 and so we know from that time that cooperation that the United States and Russia both has this capability. Yeah, the United States allegedly stopped doing it because they think it has long term effects and they think that that's not good. So allegedly we don't do that anymore sure, but now it's popping up and now a bunch of US government officials are claiming to have this effect and the government is gas lighting everybody, especially these high ranking US government officials to be like you just feel bad. You're just stressed and so then the question is why and I think there's a couple reasons 47:30 reason number one and probably like the is the probably leading conspiracy reason is that it's because the United States knows they develop this and they're actively using it as well. We're using it against other people for sure, and we don't want the fact that we have this capability to get out there, so we don't want to acknowledge it, and so we're just bearing it under the rug. That's like the conspiracy theory version of this, but the other ones I think are a little bit more likely, and it's too. I think one 48:01 we know exactly what it is and we know that it's Russia doing it, but we recognize that this is happening to high ranking US officials on US soil, and it's a directed physical attack, which which is essentially an act of war right. So if we acknowledge it, then we have to do something about it, and like this is not worth that 48:27 sure like is not worth an armed conflict with Russia to acknowledge that this is happening. So there is theories that there are these backroom conversations happening with US implements between Russia to be like, hey, stop doing this right, but we're not going to make a big deal out of it because we don't want a greater conflict and they're like, okay, we'll stand in the okay. The other theory is that we know it's Russia. We have 48:52 enough to say it's them, but we don't have that smoking gun concrete proof that holds up in like a court of law to where we could actually be like yeah. We know it's them. We have a bunch of stuff that points that way, but we don't have enough to say for sure it's them, and so we're still basically waiting for that smoking gun to then be able to acknowledge yeah, but it's radiation doesn't smoke. It doesn't smoke so long story short. This thing seemed like it was just some big conspiracy theory. 49:22 that was completely unfounded, but it's starting to look like there is this device that can shoot microwave. He's back, baby conspiracy. Tim took a break. Here's what happened. Tim got a little too logical all right, and for a while Tim was like. I don't know. I believe this stuff. This seems a little far fetch, but then all of a sudden all it took was one little zap, zap, tap to the brain and conspiracy. Tim's back at it baby 49:49 I mean here's the thing it looks like Russia all along. Tim says, I think this is slow that down. Listen to what it says. I think it was Russia all along. 50:05 he's back. It's believable. This is a believe. I don't know how you could look at this and say that it's not believable. Here's the thing. It might not be Russia. That's why that eagle's crying on his shirt. He just got freaking EMP. 50:20 look, it might not be Russia. It might not be Russia. It could be another one of our adversaries could be. It could be us. We could be testing it on our own guys, Pagers. Okay, so this is what's interesting. One of those you're unfamiliar. What happened? Okay, so a couple weeks ago was it to maybe it was one week ago yeah recently very recently there was what was it like fifteen hundred three thousand? It was a lot, a lot of Pagers and I ran simultaneously 50:49 are. We have a lot of audience who's like, I don't know, fourteen pagers or before cell phones. You could just say it'd be like if you had if you'd be like if you could only read a text yeah from a device that was like hey, you have a text and you look down to go yeah and they look like tomagot cheese. Yeah, would you probably should explain tomagot cheese to our got cheese are we could do a whole. There's actually a whole episode of us just explaining old reference to you stuff. 51:18 Yeah, so the Pager's Simultaneously just blew up yeah yeah. Was it lemon on? I thought was I ran maybe it was Lebanon on yeah blew up just simultaneously exploded, caused a lot of damage, killed a lot of people, injured a lot of people, because people were like driving all of a sudden their pay their Pager just exploded or the or even how many people are still using Pagers is crazy to me, but yeah yeah and then I 51:41 A couple days later, the same thing happened with a bunch of radios. Yeah, a bunch of radios just simultaneously exploded and a leading theory at the time was that someone had created some or manufactured some modified pages and modified radios and smuggled them across the border and then gave it to them like put them in source. So that way people would end up with them and it was like this big terror campaign. Here's what's interesting though in this story and I haven't seen someone connect these dots and I think it's because most of what I've seen was before this event. Yeah, 52:10 But what's interesting is in this story, one of the things that you saw people mention a lot was they would get hit with this this sound and when they got hit, the sound what would also happen is their cell phone battery would swell and would often break the case. And if a cell phone battery swells enough, it blows up. Yeah. And so there's a chance and this is giant conspiracy leap, but there is a chance that if this technology is out there and you could direct that at 52:41 a device, you could blow up the batteries in a device, which is very interesting. Yeah, so they might not even have to be modified, but what's interesting is when they talk about it is very directed. This is a beam. This is not like a sound wave where it's going out in all directions. It's a direct beam of microwave radiation or sound or whatever is able to hit one one location. What is what's interesting is what's described is the sound isn't the thing that's doing the damage. It's like the 53:11 that I heard someone describe it as like a gunshot, like the sound of the gunshot isn't what does the damage to the bullet right, and so it's like it. The beam is what's doing the damage, but there is a sound that's associated with it, so it's very interesting. It does seem like I mean something's going on. Who's responsible? We can't say for sure, but we can't say for sure. It's probably Russia, so that's wild. Yeah, I was folding laundry 53:41 And when I closed my whirlpool washing machine, I heard a sound from the other room. I walked toward the other room to see what it was. I immediately projectile vomited across the room like a sprinkler. 54:04 one strong projectile or so followed by seven projectile short. 54:25 Uhhh... And as I got closer to my children's bed, I could hear the sound clearly. And it was a fiddle. 54:42 and thanks for checking out this episode. If you like it, we got another cool one about doing sketchy stuff, our government this time, M K ultra go look that one up it's somewhere around here, and if you like this show, the best way to support is by supporting us on patron. Our patrons make this show possible and they also get a bunch of perks they get every episode a week early without any ads. They get to hang out with us in a discord with all of our hosts and us, all of our producers and us, we're the hosts. 55:07 and then there's a bunch of other perks like we get to hang out on a zoom once a month. It's a it's a fun time, but if not we'll see you next week on things I learned last night. You don't want to run that again. 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