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00:00 Hey man, what's up? Have you ever heard of Percy Fosset, Percy? I like the name Percy Percy. I feel like I've heard the name the fat train in Thomas and friends Thomas Percy, the fat little short train look up Percy. I'm just gonna search the fat little short and then and then it kind of made Percy be like a fat kid name. You know yeah, it does seem a little round right. 00:26 it's insane that I searched the fat little short train and it pulled up. It pulled up Percy, didn't it? That's can you pull in an image of Percy? Yeah, and honestly he's not a fat trade at all. Like I don't understand where that see. Let's see. Yeah, I'm pulling it. I'm pulling up. Give me a second. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to fat shame this train. 00:52 crazy thing to say in the intro to we haven't even made it. Look at that fat sad look. No. Yeah, that is the fat short one. Look, his face is so chubby. Yeah. Yeah. No compared to the other ones. The other ones faces aren't that chubby. Yeah, this is, this is on purpose. They did this, you know? Yeah. And so like that's a fat little chubby train. Yeah. And I'm not going to, I'm not gonna anybody 01:16 I'm not gonna make gas like me to be like no, he's like if he's fit, you know he had to run a couple more miles. No, that's a fat stupid little fat porker train. 01:29 He's just chug chug chuggin Mountain Dew all day, isn't he? Freakin' porker. Porker person. I'm making fun of a train over 01:39 I can't believe this bot got more Bible. You're searching images of snakes over here and I'm just making fun of a fictional train. 01:58 the name Percy reminds me of a fat person. Is this Percy fat? No, this person is not fat. Okay, Percy faucet. Oh dang a rugged man. Yeah, very looks like you know, he looks like that shirtless lumberjack on tick tock. Not that I've ever seen that guy. I've never seen that guy's videos. My doesn't show me sure no project even joking dude. I'm not even joking man. My mom's tick tock is like 02:26 is like that guy and andrew from here in Kansas City. He's a yeah. He follows me. Maybe he'll see this. My mom's your biggest fan, but this guy's mustache is cool. Is that a cigarette in his mouth? Probably no. It's a nice pipe. Yeah, it looks like it should be a pipe if it's not and then he's wearing. What do you call that hat like he looks like a sailor to call that hat? He looks like a sailor or a steam engine operator, which is so cool. Yeah, 02:55 does he operate steam engines? I mean he probably has. I don't know if that's his thing. Well, I do know it's not his thing, but he probably has very cool given the time frame he lived. Love a rugged miss is the eighteen hundreds yeah. Well yeah, in early nineteen hundred yeah yeah. Okay, he was born in eighteen seventy four close eighteen sixty seven close yeah eighteen sixty seven and he did what 03:23 No, don't. Yeah. Don't get excited about it, Don't really don't lead us into anything good. You know, just yawn. What do you do? Honestly, he might've, he might've bored. might've trained or might've, who knows, man, he knows, uh, no, he, uh, in what we call it, the 03:48 the early nineteen hundreds. He was a military man at the beginning of his life, obviously served in World War One with the timing. He he was an interesting guy. He got really into maps. He was a bit of a map nerd, really into boats and travel and outdoorsy stuff. Okay, kind of your your stereotypical bass pro kind of guy. Yeah, yeah, that's a good way to 04:17 to put it, but it was from England, so not totally bass pro kind of God. There we go. You got it and he he bass professional. Yeah, there we go. He specifically in the like how they say garage kind of takes me on. Well, that makes me a little man. I put the car in the garage. Once you shut up, he 04:46 he spent his early career a lot to get to. guess he's in his no buddy. You're so tired that bit. Sorry that bit was so good. I should have just let you flesh out your garage bit. All right, he he started working for the Royal Geographical Society and he was a surveyor rogio doing sure and surveying and how would that be wrong? 05:15 the Roy Gio National Geographic Nat Geo Royal Geographic Roy Geo. Yeah, I mean I guess you could say that they abbreviated it to RGS, so they would like actually abbreviate it. Anyways, so sorry, I just trying to move my face like that while I still can. 05:36 I'm trying to make as many facial expressions I before I lose the ability to the botox kicks in for the botox takes my but I stole my face. I look young, but no one will ever know that I care for them again. Do you remember? Do you remember the old driver? What the old 06:06 Charlie the Unicorn videos. No, you don't remember the Charlie the Unicorn videos really your was this you're messing with me right now. They're like super viral. We were kids like super viral like pre you show me what you man. They were a big in YouTube, but what do you mean? Show me, show me what your viral videos were when you were a kid. Show me just a clip from Charlie Unicorn. See if a jar from every I don't know if 06:33 I can pull a clip into this, but can I can honestly just pull up on your phone. I can show you a picture and you'll recognize it. No, that's not gonna work for me. I need to 06:43 pull up the pull up a pop of your phone. Show me. No, I don't want to pull it up on my phone. All I'll pull up a mine. Here we go. Let's see. I have ad for YouTube. Here we go. Okay, so we're to look up Charlie the unicorn. Forty six million views. 07:02 Hey, Charlie! Hey, Charlie! 07:09 Hahaha! 07:11 What is what are you doing right now? I don't think I've seen that before. Oh my gosh, that was a viral video like when you were a kid like how old I mean high school, probably like late middle school early middle school, if not late elementary school, if you want, I was watching 07:35 This is a video for if you're listening. 07:40 This is just a YouTube video. 07:45 Hold on. This is my favorite part. 07:51 This is just a YouTube video called screaming for ten minutes and it's just a guy screaming for ten minutes and he's like does this thing like peeking out so bad and he will just play this you'll you'll like go meet. Jerry will just play this and he'll run into a fire somewhere. 08:18 it is such a manic person thing to do. I showed up today. He was at the studio by himself and I should say in our studio by himself, but there's other people who rent from here and work here and he had the door open with just that screaming. It's like my ASMR is so insane. It's such a crazy person viral like two thousand nine. Everyone, everyone's that. Everyone's watching this. God 08:48 three hundred views. Everybody's two hundred of them. Everyone's watch that video and what supervises a guy screaming for ten minutes. It's like so funny dude. Yikes. There was a reason I brought up Charlie Unicorn and now I don't. It is my favorite wasn't related to that. It is what I will do if someone in Lynn is next to me in public listening to like tick tocks full volume, not wearing headphones. I will watch that video full volume and just stare at them. Just be insane 09:17 it's super viral. Do you so viral? Have you seen this? You seen this video? All right to pull up because you you sound like this guy. I sound like this guy. I know. Are you this guy from this video? Did you make this video? This screaming? Are you just screwing for ten minutes guy? Would you scream for me? hear you scream so anyway, 09:43 I think we're very good at. I think we're so good at this and I can't believe the show hasn't grown. So I think it's wild that our views are so low. Yeah, leave a screaming sound in the comments. yeah, hey for real. That one is not the best time to ask, but for real though, if you could leave us a review on apple podcasts, we would like to get to a thousand. We're pretty close. Are we? Let's find out 10:14 seven read a couple real quick to take a while to get there. What you got to catch up on your water? Yeah, I I do that during state of shows is I try to take a sip of water while the crowds like laughing or doing something. I'll ask a question of like hey, what do you think about this and then I'm like yeah yeah you plan it yeah and then sometimes the bottle cap we're at seven hundred and fifteen so we would love to get to a thousand did we also 10:41 please don't do the thing where you do like a one star review as a joke. It that hurts us look legitimately where you're like all hail the watcher, their one star read one. All right, all right, here we go. Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. This is from I know Shama Jaren's lights my might such a good podcast. I always have it on when I sleep and in the daytime when I'm having a bad day while I'm cleaning really doing anything, it's so good. Totally recommend nice super fun pod. This is Charlie boy, oh seven 11:10 This is my favorite podcast to listen to, even though Jaron threatens to track me down. If I don't support the pod, he will do that so last that I will. All right, so Percy, Percy like to get there. Percy was sent on missions for the Royal Geographical Society, yes mapping the world, and so have you seen Charlie the Unicorn? 11:35 I hate that because I brought that video up not to talk about that video brought it up. We're talking about British accents. That's what that's what's got you on it yeah because I was like I'm like all of the royal the royal 11:48 Okay, okay, okay, never mind. Sorry, so he he was sent on multiple, multiple missions for the society to Malta, Hong Kong, Trin, Trin, Kamali, Ceylon, all over the world, mapping different places for okay, I'll do. He's like making the maps. Yeah, he's a map boy and then and then he got a job with the British Secret Service 12:18 surveying like land usage for other armies like to be like here's where they're going. Here's their their route. Yeah, the original flock camera. Yeah, yeah, he was the flock. He's Percy flock it and so he then the war happens. He goes to war or but he also gets contracted to go to Brazil and Bolivia in South America to 12:47 resolve a border dispute between colonizing nations really right and basically to draw the map lines for them so they know where they are. And so he does this. Oh, this was actually pre where this is 1906 and so he's there on expedition and he writes letters back home and he's making some pretty crazy claims about what he's seeing in the jungles in Brazil. So for example, one of the things he said is he saw a shot didn't just see he shot a sixty two foot anaconda 13:17 in the in the which as far as we're aware, they grow to about forty feet, so that would be the long they go to forty feet yeah yeah, which is absurd. Find me a forty foot in a conda. They grow to forty feet. I mean that's like the longest like recorded. Find me a huge a picture of a huge anaconda 13:46 read you the result. I searched 40 foot anaconda images. The result at the top of 40 foot anaconda doesn't exist in real life. 13:57 Yeah, you just confidently said it. I thought that that was what was the longest longest anaconda twenty four point six feet. That makes way more sense. Yeah, still overshot it by quite a bit. Yeah, but that means his maps probably aren't very accurate. He's not very good at judging distance. If he goes at sixty feet, but still, I mean still, if you see a twenty foot snake, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I and who knows you see it in the woods like 14:27 you're it's quick. You get a shot of it like that. I'd be like sixty feet that had to be like sixty feet. How thick are they? I mean they're they're chunky yeah, they're like Percy chunky Percy the train fat little train. Here's a picture. I'm grabbing he's just chug chug chug and Mountain Dew all day isn't a freaking porker, porker Percy. I'm making fun of a thing over here. 14:55 I can't believe this pod guys is more Bible. You're searching images of snakes over here and I'm just making fun of a fictional train. I don't have these fictional is a real train. Okay, so here is I think this is the largest ever recorded anaconda 15:13 Whoa, now that's got real. They're big. See, that's huge. There's another one. like thicker than your leg. Yeah, they're very thick. Yeah. 15:29 So I mean I could see how, especially if it's like in the water, you could maybe you could think that sixty feet sure. I don't know and but that is huge. I think it's massive. That's so scary. Who knows? Like this is this is the Amazon rainforest we're talking about, especially in that time. Like who knows what was out? Yeah, those are just the sizes that we have. Yeah, we don't know. We don't know what's out there. There could be longer ones that are extinct that we never actually discovered. You know sure. I don't know shot one of them sixty two feet. 15:58 Let's see, longest snake in the world in a conda, no reticulated python and it's about the same length, like twenty three feet. Historical record was thirty two feet. yeah. Anyways, so he said he said I saw a big snake is the you also talked about cat like dog about this, the size of a fox hound that he said had two noses. 16:26 which is very interesting to noses yeah to noses. He said he saw it twice said it had like not not two nostrils, the two full noses, huh, okay, which could have just been a deformed like coyote or something like that. I don't formed coyote sure and then I didn't see the coyote in real life. You don't know them like I do. I don't know them like I do. 16:55 Hey, we just produced the price of our Patreon to 699 a month. That's one price for everybody. You get all the perks. You get the live hangouts, you get to join the discord, you get early access, whichever reason you're joining for. We wanted to make it one price because I hate that everything in the world is going up in price, and so we wanted to make this a little bit more affordable for everyone to do. And so but also, you know, the other goal is that more of you join it so that we can keep funding the show. I mean, like what you know, how do I say that? That sounds like we're 17:23 poor and we are we are and no, but if you can't join us on patreon, no worries at all. Another way to support the show is by sharing it. Please tell somebody like the show and thanks for for being here for this episode. 17:40 and then he saw a giant spiders, which is probably pretty likely likely, and he said that they poisoned a bunch of the locals. So I saw spiders poisoning locals. I saw them doing it. I saw them dumping chemicals into the river that led to the water supply for these locals. The spiders did this. I said these factories don't yeah chemicals into the and the lead spider was a woman. 18:07 with eight legs and she had she had miniature dolls of herself and then he talked about he saw like basically apes in the in the jungle and then he also talked about and this was something he was pretty impressed by giant peanuts and he said were four inches in length, which is interesting out of all these crazy things. He saw I was like look at the size is peanut, which I mean that's a big peanut sure. So he is the point is 18:37 he he toward this place. He mapped this this environment in the middle of the Amazon and he was amazed at the things he saw. Yeah, I was talking about how crazy this place was and he also finished this expedition. This was expected to be a two year expedition mapping this land through through the rainforest. He finished it in a matter of months and then came back and it was like here you go yeah and so this kind of garnered some acclaim for him of like. Oh, this is a good map guy. This guy knows maps. We should hire 19:07 because he's fast, he's fast and he gets us the results knows maps. Yes. Can you see are there any maps that he drew for the time? Are we gonna get there? I don't know if I have any maps. Actually, I don't think this one. I have a map in here, but I don't think this is one that okay. He did. I don't know if we have any remaining maps from him. Sure, if we do, I don't know if we know it's him. You know it's that good, but an important thing about him 19:35 is he was really good with, like, he was really quick at assimilating with the locals and like garnering trust with the locals who many times hadn't had contact with any outside people groups. And so he would use gifts and he would be generous and helpful. And so he'd come and be like, hey, is there anything I could do for you? Kind of like, have you ever done the Dream Center? Yeah. 20:03 That was one of the things you did. You went and you went door to door and you're like, Hey, I'm with the Dream Center. Is your house dirty? I'll clean it for you and they'd be like how much and then you'd be like free and they'd be a little off my lawn. Hey, I with the Dream Center is your house. It seems like your house seems like a house. My reburied clean your house. I'll clean your house just and tell me where the valuables are and tell me where all the good stuff. Sure, sure, sure, sure. You could ask 20:33 Yeah, yeah, it's a little weird in retrospect. Looking back a little weird. I'd say no to any of those people. Did you clean any houses? No, nobody let us in. I remember I do remember going door to door and I do remember nobody saying yes and then we just played at the neighborhood park for like an hour until the bus came back for us because nobody wanted us. It's kind of sad. Yeah, it's kind of sad if I say like that. Yeah. How old were you? Like I don't know, like twenty nine. 21:04 Yeah, now this was recent that was not. It was not recent. No, yeah, I was 18. I think I was my last what buddy was fourteen years ago. I was not recent. I know it wasn't reason. You don't have to like you don't have to like do. It's like when I go, I go yeah. A few years ago I upload the chick fil a rap and someone went a decade ago. I like this. Whoa, hey, do that to me. Shut up, stop that 21:33 Right now. 21:46 So he got obsessed while he was there. On a particular mission, he began to hear about a famed lost city of Z. And so this is 1914. City of Z? Yeah. Okay. Or Zed. He would have referred to it as Right, right, right. Because he's wrong. And so the lost city of Z was kind of akin to like an El Dorado story, but El Dorado was like the conquistadors in the 1700s. We're talking about El Dorado. 22:15 You know, I'll right right. You're looking at me like you don't. Yeah, I know. Okay, okay. Okay. I guess if you're listening, you don't know. El Dorado El Dorado is a mythical city of gold in the rainforest in Brazil and the conquistadors were looking for it and they never, never found it. But there are like myths around it that some of them found it and it's like Atlantis and all that. It gets really crazy right and so he 22:41 after some time had gone on going into the early nineteen hundreds. I was like of dodge Durango. I'm not going to lie when you said El Dorado. I was like is that what that's named after and then I started going right. That's not like Dodge Dorado, Dange, Dodge, Durango, Dodge, Dorado and then I was on to Rango, Colorado and then you were like you're looking to be like you don't know what I'm talking about. In my head, I was like I'm not Colorado, Pueblo, Colorado. 23:10 Adolfo's burritos. I just want you to know I was somewhere else study and you were like it's a city of gold and I was like oh yeah, the story, the story, story, story, so that story had since become kind of a thing where everyone's yeah. That was a myth like we that's not real. There's no save goal in the jungle sure, but there was some mythology surrounding it still, and so there is this idea that there was probably lost cities in there and this comes from kind of three sources one 23:39 there was the let me get the name of this right. The manuscript five twelve, which is a documentary from a portuguese explorer who described what he saw in a like abandoned city and on the city. There was like glyphs carved into the city that resembled greek letters, which would be surprising because as far as they knew, nobody had ever been over the side of the world, right, except for them and everybody who was lived there. 24:09 but they don't they didn't. They weren't concerned with them at that time. Yeah, there was also another explorer who found a basalt idol. This is a guy by the name of H. Rider Haggard. Okay, we do have an artist rendering of this. This is what this was supposed to have looked like and this gave him immunity or what? Yeah, no one can keep an immunity idol. So this this resembled Egyptian 24:38 both glyphs there and then also just like the art style and then even being carved in basalt. That's the idea is like the Egyptians got over here right, which was a crazy concept. And then really the biggest thing that ignited this story was in 1911. They discovered Machu Picchu, which is right. You don't know what Machu Picchu is. Yes, incredible landmark in the middle of the rainforest at the top of a mountain. The city that just built onto the edge of the mountain, which is pretty amazing. 25:07 Marvel of ancient engineering. And so this kind of was like, oh my gosh, maybe these lost cities actually exist deep in the rainforest that we have not discovered. Right. So then there was like this after Machu Picchu, there was this pretty major flight to Brazil to like find more of these hidden cities. And Percy was one of them who was like, I'm going to find the city of Z. This is the city of Z was the one he got obsessed with. And so he put together a mission in 1920 to go try to find them. 25:38 did not have any luck on this mission. His horse died and named his camp after that horse called. He called it dead horse camp. It's on his maps. He's called dead horse. Yeah, this is my dead horse camp and then and then he put together in 1925 another return mission better than like dead mom camp. That is 26:00 like that. That is better than that. That is better than he actually does have a dead. That's what I'm saying. That is much more depressing. Yeah, this is dead horse camp a couple of hours of the road is dead mom camp. A few miles later is dead friend camp and then if you go a little bit further, it's dead me camp. Do you odd me? Do you odd me? Me? Me? Me? Me? Me? Me? Me? 26:30 he got a small group of people because he says that that was his failure in 1920 is whenever he went, he had too many people. was too much to control. Um, and obviously you're coming across indigenous tribes and it's hard to make sure everyone there understands the culture and is able to not cause any problems for you. Right. Um, and then also it's just more amounts to feed more people to keep safe. It's harder to cover a lot of ground. Sure. And so he brings a small group. So the group he brings is 26:57 pretty small. Let me get you everyone he brings on this. This this group he goes with obviously himself and then his oldest son jack his childhood best friend, Raleigh Rimmel and then Raleigh yeah yeah and then his second son Brian and then his daughter Joan Joan Joan 27:26 Joan Fosset. I like it and so it's a small group, basically just family and like a best friend right and so they go they crazy that his best friend would ever be like be around his kids crazy. Anybody let's their best friend do that. So they they they took a boat. They landed a bullet and in February they got to Brazil February nine to twenty five 27:55 and then I couldn't even see your kid again before you modified him. What does that mean? You turn to the doctor today and you had aftermarket parts put on your kid. He got tubes put in this year's yeah. That's an after market parts is so yeah. Do the same thing with braces aftermarket mouth. Have you heard that that's like a fashion thing right now braces? Yeah, it's like people are doing elective braces and they're going and they're seeing people like you got your botox 28:24 just in people's living room that are just gluing braces on people's mouth and they're not real braces, but they're gluing it on their mouth for like a fashion thing. I've seen that. Yeah, it's I guess it's a thing and the orthodontists are mad about it. They're like you can't do that because that's not like I only I can do that. They're saying it's bad for your health and it probably is. It's probably gonna mess up your teeth. Yeah, but I think they're more threatened. You think that they're like hold on. What I do is really hard. What I do took a lot of school and you just kind of figured it out on YouTube and you're doing it out of your 28:54 garage. It does it hurts. I don't know if you remember. If you remember yeah yeah, there's a lot of people that are splitting. You had braces. Oh yeah, I had brace. I can't ever 29:05 I they there's also people that are splitting the roof of their mouth. Oh yeah. Have you seen that they are the I can. I believe that's what's happening. We did it. I did it. I didn't split it, but you like you're stretching your bite out and there are people who careful if you're screw squirmy, but it's just like this is too much to it's a bar that I understand. understand. understand no, no, no, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, Tim, I think we all understand what happens and I think we should move on and talk about this guy in Brazil. 29:33 and sixty two foot snakes. Okay, sorry, we're right about sixty two foot snakes, but you tighten it enough and then it's oh my the top of your mouth and make your mouth wider, which makes you have that stone jaw, which makes you hot. Okay, my people are doing it. It looks maxing sure, but that's not this. just they're just doing prices because I think I got to move to Miami for my personal brand. 30:01 if you're not willing to, if you're not willing to go to Miami for your personal, if you're a guy doing personal brand and you're not in Miami for personal brand, then like there's so many fancy restaurants and stuff that you could go make content at and you have to. So we're thinking about hey, tell us is this wrong. We know somebody who has that kind of personality. Could we turn them into an influencer and we would be making fun of them? 30:29 Yeah, just to be clear, this is not a, is not like a other. We would be, but he might try it genuinely, but it's it's one of those things. It's like it would work. He would go viral, but not for the right reasons. Yeah, yeah, he has a monster fridge. He's like, he's like, Hey guys, men need to step up and be men and I'm moving to Miami. 31:01 I do listen to this podcast sometimes and I do think that I should audition to be Teddy's replacement on Bob's burgers really yeah. Sometimes I get into that. Oh no, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because he doesn't even really doesn't even replaced so anyways. Anyways, they hang out in Brazil for a little bit and then they on April twentieth once they got every person together Thomas and friends. 31:30 Oh no, I'm fat. I'm such a chunky Lord. I feel like I'm losing control of this. Yeah, listen, listener. This is the fourth episode we're recording in one day. We're trying shouldn't have done this. 31:50 Oh boy. Am I sick? I sure do need Tim stones. Get well quick trick. And what is it? It's simply chug an entire gallon of orange juice. Wow. I forgot. And then this shirt reminded me, I'm so glad that I have this shirt as a public service announcement, a public health service to other people around me. Do your part. Get this shirt. 32:19 shop.tillam.com 32:27 somebody they leave and they with two guides horses on yeah their whole fam team yeah May twenty ninth. They reached dead horse camp okay and Amelia where his horse dies. This is where his horse had had already died. If he's this is back he's going back to her in nineteen twenty five. This is five years after the horse died and he named that camp after the horse and then he sends a letter is interesting. He sends like duos of letters. There's a letter that he sends off 32:57 to the society and he's like he's like we're never going to make it back. We're lost and then he sends a letter to his wife that says I lied. Yeah. He says you need to have no fear of any failure and he says that we're going to let our guides go and we're going to take it from here and the theories about what's happening here is he is so concerned okay with being the first person to find the lost city of z that he's like he's like I want a small of group as possible right. 33:26 so we can move as quickly as possible, be the first to find it and I want to tell the society that oh we're dead didn't find it yeah like we're not going to succeed on this right away with the gold yeah and then we're going to get there. We're going to do this in secret and so the letter gets to his wife that oh yeah, we're doing good. The letter gets the society things are aren't going good and he just wrote this to society to society dear society. 33:52 Yeah. Anytime someone writes a letter to society as a whole, sounds like they're about to do something really bad. So they disappear in the woods. 34:08 they disappear into the woods and we do have a map here. This is in Eastern Brazil. Yeah, basically on the by Bolivia. Yeah, basically on the what's the word I'm looking for border with Bolivia and so you see where they started down at that bottom into this map here. Yeah, they journeyed up and there is on this map. You can see dead horse camp. Yep and then the theory is that that they 34:37 journeyed off into the Amazon here and then we don't really know what happened to them. We never found them, so they just there's two dead horse camps. So there's dead horse camp a and dead horse camp be well and there's there's thing where we should be clear here. We don't know exactly where dead horse camp is okay, so he in one message to the society. He gave the coordinates of dead horse camp and that was dead horse camp a okay and in the the 35:05 letter to his wife. He gave the coordinates of dead horse can't be. This is a camp he's been to for years since his dead horse, so it's like he knows he knows exactly where this is. So this was an attentional intentional choice to miss leading. Oh, I see it out of the bottom. I don't know. It's from his diary camp. It says dead horse can't be was coordinates from the from exploration faucet. 35:28 and then and then you know it's right there. You don't have to guess and lie. I guess it and then dead horse can't be his coordinates from his diary. Well, maybe the diary, maybe the diary is the letter that makes me think life. Sure, I don't know because because this is I don't know where they would have got the diary right and you can't be wrong. You are yeah, I'm not wrong so okay. So now what so they kind of disappear in the woods and this kind of sparks 35:57 a lot of questions about what happened. Did he find it? Did somebody kill him? Did they starve? And so there was a long wait for about two years. Everyone was saying, okay, maybe they're still searching. They're going to come back. And this was a time where like, you know, maybe it takes a year, maybe it takes two, maybe it takes four years. I don't know. Like how long does it take to get lost in the Amazon? We don't really know. We don't know how long this expedition is going to take, but by 1927, so two years later, our RGS officially declares the expedition lost. 36:27 And then for the next 25 years, there was over 100 people who attempted to go find Percy Fossett. They were like, we're going to go go see if we can locate them. All 100 of them disappeared in the Amazon trying to track him down. Geez. In the decades that followed. And so on these different, I should say there was more than 100. Some of these people came back, but 100 people disappeared looking for him. 100 people have disappeared looking for him. Yes. Yeah. 36:57 in the Amazon. Geez Yep, and so there are a lot of theories about what happened. There's a guy by the name of George Diet, D, Y, O, T. Yeah, he led what's called the Suicide Club Expedition. He found K. Yeah, I don't. I think he named that like. I don't know why it's called that. I'm gonna be honest, because that didn't happen on his expedition. 37:25 Sure. So he met a group of locals who reported that the group was murdered by one of the specific tribes. They got a little too close or something threatened them. Something along those lines killed all of them. There was another group explorer by the name of Orlando Vias Bolt, Boas, Boas, who claimed to find his bones. And so they brought him back. They measured him, though, and they said, how these are too long. He's not this tall. 37:53 he's too short for this to be him. No, he's five ten. Yeah, he wrote in his diary that he was six one. This can't be him. He said he was waiting. We found him. He was just lying about his height. Okay, okay and actually they held these bones in the RGS like society for years because they these are the best. The closest thing we got to Percy Fossett and once DNA came out, they tested them and they realized all these are the bones of an indigenous person. 38:20 not Percy Foss's. I know for sure it's not him now. Another theory was that they met a specific tribe and they kind of had a lot of misgivings with this tribe. So they did not bring a gift. They just showed up, which was apparently a faux pas for this specific tribe. They also, while they were hunting, they brought back a kill, but they didn't share it with the tribe, which was another big faux pas. And then the biggest thing was while they were 38:50 I at camp with that tribe, someone attempted to like grab a piece of the meat and they like slapped them, which was like a serious offense. And it was, I guess a child in the tribe. And so after they left, the story goes, they followed them into the rainforest and killed them. Um, cause of the like offense that you slapped my child, you slapped my kid. Yeah. The thing is like all these storylines are, are a little difficult to believe, especially the tribal ones because 39:19 he one of the things he was known for was being able to go in and like connect with the tribes and gain goodwill and then like have them help him through on his mission and they would guide him through like that was a thing he was known for. And so the idea that he would go on also like if he was killed by them like we have no documentation no one could be like this is what happened. True. You know well what the people who claim that that that that's what happened is they met the tribe and the tribe was yeah we did it. Yeah we get oh yeah we killed that guy. Yeah we did it. 39:49 hi. You stand accused of murdering Percy Fossett. huh. Yep. Yeah, we did that. We think that you killed him because he intruded on your land. No, no, no, no. He tried to eat some of my food. Nick, so that was really annoying. You did kill him. Yes, yeah, yeah. I said that already. You have his bone. Yeah, gave you his bones. Remember Oh 40:18 Can we give me the wrong bones? Oh sorry, sorry, we got lots. Let me get my back bones here. What about this one? Does this look like his boat? No all right smells like him. Have you ever seen Charlie the Unicorn? Charlie, Charlie, he ate his hands so 40:45 what's interesting and long story short, there's a lot of theories about what happened to them. Maybe they just starved in in the rain forest. It's pretty likely they just got lost. The Amazon rainforest is unbelievably gigantic right and it's basically completely unpopulated and it's incredibly hostile to us. Yeah, there's a lot of animals that will kill you. There's a lot of disease. There's a lot of weather plants that will kill you. There's yeah, it's a dangerous place to everything's trying to kill you, especially in the early 41:16 20s. And so like this is, it's probably, he just got lost and died and it's probably what happened, especially like a small group. Um, what's interesting. And so, so the last city of Z mythology just kind of evaporated with him. Nobody ever found it. Sure. Uh, it kind of became this thing for the majority of the 20th century. That's like, it just doesn't exist. There's, there's no other cities down there. We found all of them. Machu Picchu was the biggest one. Um, the entire Amazon rainforest probably only house about a hundred thousand people. 41:46 across the whole thing, small tribal groups across the thing, with the exception of Machu Picchu and maybe a couple other settlements. It was a small thing. Percy though became, or really was already this mythic figure. And there is like theories that Indiana Jones character was actually based off Percy Fawcett. And so this is the persona of who he was as an Indiana Jones type person. And so he just kind of faded into obscurity. But what's interesting, 42:16 is in the early 2000s, some more work had been done throughout Brazil and the Amazon rainforest. And then in 2020, a new airborne laser technology called LiDAR came out and started being used in archeology. And essentially what this does is it's like a radar, but with laser light. And it allows you to see through the canopy of the rainforest. 42:45 and see the, what's the word I'm looking for, disruptions in the earth. And what they were able to discover is throughout the Amazon, there is a whole network of civilizations underneath the rainforest that we previously didn't know existed. And so here's an example of one where you can actually see the foundations and you can actually see pyramid. 43:10 structures right now. We did not know existed before LIDAR was able to start mapping the rainforest. Here's essentially what is happening here is you're able to lift up that canopy and see what's underneath where you're flying over. You're not seeing anything because of so do we know what this is. So we've discovered a series of civilizations where this is kind of undid our entire understanding of the Amazon rainforest. And we believe now that around 43:38 the fifteen hundreds, maybe the sixteen hundreds around the time of first contact with the Americas. There were civilizations all throughout the Amazon, probably a community, I guess a large branching community that was well over a million people living in the Amazon rainforest with structures. Most of what they built were pretty sure. So are we going to go ex excavate these things like what's the plan? They are. Yeah, they are actively 44:07 there are active sites throughout the Amazon rainforest right now. Wow. Studying what's, what was left behind in these places. Um, most of what we have is just like evidence of foundations. Sure. Um, and then when we get in there and we start, uh, digging, they're finding, um, uh, different evidence of, of civil or I should say civilization, like a city there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, the reason why we're not finding most of, most of things are most 44:35 things from this is most of these societies were building with wood. And so most of the structures, we see the foundation in the ground, but the wood is obviously not there anymore. It's been 600 years. Yeah. And so they took it out. What we, what we believe is this was groups of people, interconnected cities that were a few miles apart. And what they would do is they would build these big round cities with squares in the middle. 45:04 And they were very big on protecting the rainforest. the rainforest will blend in with the city in certain areas. And in certain areas, they would cut out the trees. They would do controlled burns. We have evidence that they did controlled burns to create farmland for them to obviously farm from. And then there are areas where it appears, like this one, where they created religious sites. And so there was major structures that were stone structures. 45:33 These are very new discoveries within the last five years. don't know a lot about them. There's lot of theories out there, but it does kind of vindicate Percy. And honestly, even the conquistadors talking about El Dorado, because let's be honest, they probably killed them all. We don't know exactly what happened to them yet. Yeah, but we do know when we came over to the Americas, we killed a lot of people. We brought a lot of disease. We killed most indigenous people through that. But there was also a lot of people who came over from Europe. 46:02 just killed people as they came through. And so the theory is that they, these societies got decimated by first contact and then over the centuries or stuff buried, the rainforest reclaimed all that land and they were lost to history for a long time. And so this is a developing story. How much is actually wasn't, think that I went to, I went to Pompeii. Yeah. Right. And I, and it was so vast and there's just a big place and you're going to people's homes and all this stuff. Yeah. 46:32 and you're just like yeah, one day this studio is going to be one of those flat. It's just nothing's going to be here. Yeah, you know, yeah, someone will probably tear it down and nothing we're doing is going to last. You know, it is true. They say, what is it? Ten thousand years before any like if we disappear tomorrow, I think they say it's ten thousand years. Nothing else like there'd be no evidence that we existed except for the thing that they are that I always hear is no clear. No, it's 47:01 Mount Rushmore. That's the only structure we've built that will still stand ten thousand years from now. But I think they say like fifty thousand. You won't even know it was like man made because of erosion. And then it's just like, that's just a weird looking rock that looks vaguely like people really. Yeah. And so it takes basically no time for all evidence of us to just as sick, a very encouraging way to end this episode. Remember that nothing you're doing. You know what though? That is like, you know, 47:31 don't take yourself that serious. Nothing we're doing matters that much yeah, unless you're building a monument and that's your building something like Mount Rushmore, but yeah, I mean this. I mean it's only it's been five hundred years for these people and the force is reclaimed and you never would have known if you couldn't see it from the above and honestly you want to have known unless you can see it from above with light are so like these people just dis it's entirely possible to be up next to it and not realize that that's a structure. 47:59 Yeah, especially in the areas where it's just the earthen like foundation that are there because like you wouldn't notice if you're just walking over in the rain forest. Right. That's what that is too busy looking out for snakes. Well, it's also you're close to it. That's what I'm You're looking at this big foundation like you. You're just like, this is just a long ditch. Yeah, I would never connect that. This is part of a bigger thing. It's crazy. See it from far enough away. Wild really crazy. So we're to learn more about this over the next few years. Our understanding of this is going to change a lot. 48:29 that there might have been a lot more people in the Amazon rainforest. heard that the conquistadors made it to Eldorado yeah and then they had to fiddle off the devil.