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Hey, man, I'm happy to be here. Have you ever heard of Benjamin Kyle? Benjamin Kyle. Benjamin Kyle, and it's important for you to know this is himself. Okay. Benjamin Kyle looks like a financial advisor in a small town. The craziest description that is so accurate. It's so accurate. Yeah. He looks like a small town financial advisor. He's got Tim's hairline. It's pretty far back there. Oh my God. Not even close. Well, there's a glare. I can't really tell. You know, we got another picture of him. Yeah, it is like you're hairline. That also has a glare. It would have another picture of the glairiest of glares. And I like these guys smiling a little bit at this one. Like he looks like he just, he looks like he just got away with something. You know what I mean? I went like this and then you go to this one where he's very much not. Are you my mom? A lot of people. No. Hey, this is me auditioning to like read children's book. No. I'm not you, mom. And then he continued off. I think wacky inflatable arm guy. I got a car dealership. My mom. Are you my mom? Things I learned last night. OK, so the first two pictures, the same shirt. Pull up the second one. This one, do a family barbecue or something. He's just eating bell peppers, the same thing, same shirt, that's the same shirt. Yeah, look, this one, he looks like he just pulled off an inside joke on somebody. And it's over to you. Yeah, I got him, dude. I got him. I got him. I'm never going to buy mint cakes. And why so many pictures of this guy? He just like the photos he's got. He's a very nice guy. He's wearing the breasts. Reading the paper. He's in a Pepsi pole. Playing in a field. Reading the paper. OK, who is this guy? This is Benjamin Kyle. Yeah, you said that a part of that. It's spelled. This is important. B-E-N-J-A-N-A-N. So Benjamin. Benjamin. Not Benjamin. OK. And Benjamin Kyle, here's the thing about Benjamin Kyle. OK. He was, was that where you were laughing so hard about with the bell pepper picture? You were like, I'm going to drop that in. Well, I was laughing. I was laughing at the newspaper. The newspaper picture kills me. This newspaper picture is so funny. Because he's just like literally all of these pictures, though, like just in sequential order, again, all of these pictures are so funny to me every single one. He's got like the Mr. Fini mustache. And geez, man. OK, this is Benjamin Kyle. Crazy. I guess 31st 2004. Burger King employee reports for work at 5 a.m. and discovers this man, lying naked behind the dumpsters, covered in blood, beaten, described as covered in fire amp bites, too. OK. No ID, obviously, he's but naked. He's unconscious. And so she, of course, calls 911 and says, hey, there's a guy badly beaten and attacked by a fire dance and naked without ID behind my Burger King dumpster. And so they come, they pick him up. They take him to the hospital. And he was also severely sunburned. It's like he'd been there the whole day before. And no one noticed or something. I don't know. And he also had cataracts. The doctors checked him out after his thick. He has pretty severe cataracts. And so they took him in. He's completely knocked out, like in a coma. And they're nursing him back to health. But the problem was they already had a John Doe in that hospital. And so they couldn't call him John Doe. And so they're trying to come up with another name. And they're like, Benjamin. They were like, well, we found him at Burger King. So he could be BK Doe. And so he, in and out of consciousness, is hearing everyone call him BK. And so as he starts to come back, he starts to come back. Call me BTK. What is BTK? Google it. It's a fun reveal for Tim right now. Are the BTK killer? Yes. It's BTK. It's BTK. You're missing the T. You're missing the T. No. So he starts coming back too. And they're like, hey, what's your name? And he's like, you call me BK. And they're like, no, I know what we call you. But what is your name? And he's like, I think it's BK. And they're like, no, no, we get it. And so he keeps like, every time they're asking, he's like, be it's BK. And long story short, discovered he's got severe amnesia. He remembers nothing from before that he was picked up. OK. And so when asked what his name is, he just decides. He's like, I'm pretty confident my name starts to be. And I feel really good about Benjamin. I'm pretty sure it's Benjamin. And they're like, OK, so B-E-N-J-E-M. J-A-M. Yeah. B-E-N-J-A-M-I-N-J-N-O. Hold on. I think there's an A there. And there's an A there. Like, yeah, we just did that. No. J-A-N-Y-S, correct? Yes. A-N. And they're like, oh, Benjamin. And he's like, he's Benjamin. I do have a head injury. And they're like, OK, what's your last name? And he says it's a K. It's got to be a K name. Knife. No, it's not Knife. Definitely not Knife. Knife. Killer. Killer. No, it's not killer. Kile. Kile. Yeah, there you go. And so he tells him it's Benjamin Kile. And so they release him as Benjamin Kile. That's crazy. Severe cataracts. And this is the NIS in 90s? 2004. It's way too late to be releasing people back in the wild. OK, OK. We'll see you later. This is Richard Hill, Georgia, just outside Savannah. So he's in a Savannah, Georgia hospital. Well, I say, I say, what is your name? It's exactly what they said. And he goes, uh, Ben, Ben, Ben. I don't understand where you just said. Your name is Benjamin. Can you say that in an American accent, please? Can you, please? Your, your knife, your name, your name in English. That's another accent, a deep South accent. Try to do a not deep South accent. Oh, your name is, it's pretty good town, actually. And if you're casting for anything, and you would like to put me in that, I would, I would, I would, I would, I would probably turn it down, but it'd be fun to be fun to like kind of pretend. It'd be fun to do the back and forth. Like, oh, yeah, let me see this clip, you know? I want to be able to tell. But I also just want to raise my value, you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I'm talking to this movie about, you know, the character, he's like a southerner, but like he pretends he's not. We're watching the burrows, yeah, finally, and, uh, the cop, the young cop, uh, Reagan goes, Al read for this. Really? What do you mean? Because yeah, I did, I did this scene with him for his audition. That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of stuff. Did she know that it was for that? No, I mean, like, there's a lot of stuff that, like, Reagan's auditioned for in the past, like, and then we'll see the scene in a Netflix show. And then I'm like, oh, I read the mother's lines for this. Oh, that's interesting. And when I, I'll tell you what, I was, I would help my wife with her self tapes, and she's on camera. I'm in the back. And I was like, I'm going to get this role. Cause I'm killing it over here. I'm out here. I'm like, Netflix, listen, you can't, you can't do this. The trees. You know? And I was, I'm going to get the, I'm going to get this. Okay. So they released it back in the wild. He remembers nothing. He has no money, no social security number, no, he's no like, I work at burger. He's like, I do think I work at Burger King. And so they give him, I think they gave him clothes. I'm assuming they gave him clothes when he left the show can give him clothes. My assumption is they let him leave clothes. But he let, he leaves because they were like, well, you don't have any money, so we can't like really fix all your problems. We just make sure you're not going to die. And then you're back on your own, man. Oh, my God. Maybe. And so he goes back on his no social security number, no social security number, he goes where? He just goes out to the streets. And so he, he tries to go to shelters, but even shelters would have taken, cause he doesn't have, I live here. I think this is my home. He tries to go to shelters, but shelters wouldn't even take him, cause he has no social security number. And so he ends up finding a charity that says, hey, we'll pay for your cataract surgery. And so he, a couple months later, he gets his cataract surgery and he's like, at least that's something like, we're not going to do anything about your living situation, but we will take care of that. We'll help you see. And so he gets his cataract surgery and he comes to you and they're like, well, we would keep you here, but you know, you can't pay for it. So you're going to have to go back on the streets, bandage your eyes up and stuff. You can't see anything for a couple days. And so finally, he's just a homeless guy now. Yeah, he's just homeless. And so they take his bandages off and he can see in the mirror, finally, he looks to tell the mirror and he goes, Oh, Steven, what are you doing? He's talking. I'm Bruce Willis. Oh, I've been Bruce Willis this whole time. You guys go down to the office and your police station be like, hi, I'd like to turn myself in. I'm Bruce Willis. And they're like, what, no, I know that I know the actors and the actors are Bruce Willis. No, I guess his name is also Bruce Willis. Yeah, we both have been named Bruce Willis. But my name is Bruce Willis and I've been committing a bunch of crimes in the past because I knew because I name Bruce Willis, don't believe it. My name is he's got a fix on the accent, but he couldn't understand it before. And I am, I am a criminal, no, is that Ghana where you're looking for this guy? You just, you let me know, let me know in the comments, like I can do to, you know, get this suit. Better suit your role and just me, just me, just me, just me, just me, just me, just me, just me, just me, just me. I'm trying to get cast and something. Pretty funny to do TikToks like that, but it's just audition tapes, but you're talking to the audience. Yeah. How was that? Was that good? Was that good? Leave in the comments below if you think that was good. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's crazier things have happened, I mean, people have gotten cast from things online. That is true. You got to be hot, but it works out. Hot people, it just kind of happens for, you know? Yeah, you got the boat talks, though, so that you're halfway there. That's why I'm doing this. So I'm trying to eat it, you know? Jared Myers, I am 63, I live in Glendale. Now, I do say, my name might be Benjamin Kyle, but I think it also might be Bruce Willis. Can you, can you give me it, otherwise, but a little bit more confused when you say Bruce Willis, but I think it also might be Bruce Willis. Good, right? That's really good. That's really good. I mean, don't want to dive, but we get to Bruce Willis. I'm slipping into a little bit of a Walton guy, a Walton guy, but I'm fine with that. Yeah, I'm okay with that. Yeah. Do it again, but this time you're John Madden. Yeah, so I just got to talk normal. That's what I was going for. I sound like that. So I was, you know, so I'm, I'm Benjamin Kyle, but I'm also like, yeah, I circle here and I'm, I'm Bruce Willis. I'm Bruce Willis. Yeah. I'm Bruce Willis. I'm actually really, I'm really mad. I'm really upset. I'm personally offended that Nick Cage got cast as John Madden over me. I'm like legitimately annoyed because I could have worked on it. All right. I mean, it's halfway there already. As it is. I am for sure. I am for sure a young John Madden. You know what I'm saying? Like an ape. I give a little bit of that kind of thing right there that kind of starts to feel, that feels close enough. You know, yeah. Yeah. And so like, you know, you know, you know, how it is. I can just, you know, you know. And boom. And boom. I could, I could have worked on it. I could have got that for sure. For sure. So Hollywood. Yeah. And instead they, they, they body modified what's his face. They after marketed Nick Cage, they body. And he looks so dumb. Pull up an image of Nick Cage, pull up the one where he's walking out of the tunnel. That's what I want to show. All right. Let's just pull him up real quick so you can see what I'm talking about. Yeah. Look at him. He looks like Uncle Rico melting. You know what I'm saying? Like he just, he doesn't look like, he doesn't look like him at all. Yeah, it doesn't look like John Madden. It's single bit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it is. It's pretty sad. I'll tell you what. I would have fully committed to this, too. I would never, God, would never get on an airplane again. You know, John Madden had a blast to go to the bus everywhere, but that's so inefficient. So inefficient. So inefficient, but pretty cool, but pretty cool. It is a little cool, but you know, anyways, where was I? I would have put on weight for that. I would have gained 50 pounds. Yeah. And I would have done it for the craft, not just out of laziness, like I've previously done it. I would have had a point. I would have overeaten for something instead of to run away from my emotions. That's the dream scenario there, isn't it? You just said dream. What gave you up? All right. So he's back in the world. He gets his cataracts. He looks crazy. He looks in the mirror. And does everything come back? Yeah. Here's the crazy thing. Okay. So I haven't mentioned yet. He remembers 23 specific memories. Okay. And these memories are... Has he writing them down? He's just like, I can't remember. Well, over the years, people have cataloged them the memories on the shares. I don't know if he's writing them down, but he does remember he was born. Let me get this date. He remembers he was born specifically on August 29th, 1948. And the reason he remembers that is because it's 10 years to the day before Michael Jackson was born. So he remembers that. And then he remembers very... I don't remember that guy's name. Now, I say, I do not recall this guy's name, but he's the one who walks forward and back. What at the same time? Yeah. The hat. The yee hee. And I remember in... He's part of the... He's... My family didn't like him. My family didn't much care for him because they didn't like his music. But he would walk forward and backward at the same time. I'm 10 years older than that guy. All of his memories are someone walking backwards. Every single memory he has. It really is... It really is like... He remembers the same way you remember your early childhood where you remember these really weird peculiar scenes. I remember that... Like, for sure. I remember that I'm 10 years older than... Michael Jackson. What? What? What? What? You just said you're a singer. I don't know who Michael Jackson is. I don't know who Michael Jackson is. No, but I don't know. I don't know who you're talking. So... And then... And then... And then everything else... It was an interesting story and I'm making it really bad. Everything else he remembers is just random little things like the same way you remember things from when you were like a young kid where he's like, I remember going in the movies with my friend and the guy gave us free tickets because he wanted to help us or he's like, I remember taking the bus and he's like, I'm pretty sure it was in Denver and my... He's remembering these really weird flashbacks. Flashbacks scenarios. Do we think the memory loss is because of how bad he was beating behind this Burger King? Well, we'll come back to that. The last thing he remembers though is 1979. And so he has this mental map of himself. That's like a 30-year-old man. Okay. So he gets his cataracts and he takes off his bandages and he looks in the mirror and he sees himself. And it's... It's a jump scare for him. He's like, who is that man? Who's that old guy? Okay. Because his sense of self is 30 years younger than that. Sure. And so he's shocked to see it and find out how old he really is. And so he kind of goes through this mental... I guess trauma of the scenario of not being able to remember who he is. And he ends up getting put into a mental behavioral health facility. Okay. And he gets out for a little bit. Eventually gets out. And when he gets let out, he connects with a woman by the name of... Catherine... Doesn't matter. Catherine. Gross. He connects with this woman by Catherine who is one of the workers at the behavioral health facility. Knows he has nowhere to go. Okay. Has compassion for him and says, you can come stay with me. You can live in my house. Yeah, you can come live at my house. Hey. Hey. Hey, you can come live in my house. Because she knows he's Bruce Willis. Hey. She thinks he knows this is Bruce Willis the actor. So she's like, hey. I'm going to stay in my house. Catherine Slater. And so Catherine Slater is like, I'm going to... And she kind of becomes obsessed. She's like, we're going to find out your story. And so they, she goes to work. He stays there. He doesn't have a social security number. He can't get a job. He can't even get Medicare. He can't get food stamps. He can't do anything on his own. Yeah. Because he doesn't have... He doesn't exist as far as the government's... Like he's legally a ghost. Right. And so she is like... She goes to work. She comes home. And she and him use the internet to try to figure out who he is. This is now like 2006, 2007. Okay. And they're trying to piece things together. And they're making like... I don't want to say progress. Because that's not really the word I would use in this scenario. But they are like covering some ground. Are they having like forums being like, do you know this guy? Kind of. They go on Reddit. And he does this Reddit post. And he puts a picture of him up on Reddit. And he's like, he's like, do you know who I am? Because I don't. And then it's just this whole thread of people... Like trying to figure out who he is and then sharing his image around. And he's sharing all of the memories he has, hoping somebody else sees it that it jogs their memory. And they can remember it. Okay. And eventually, this gets the attention of some people who are like, Hey, I think... Like I know some of the producers on Dr. Phil. I knew Dr. Phil's here. I knew you were gonna say Dr. Phil. Gosh dang it. And so he gets... What's that? He gets featured on a Dr. Phil episode. Yeah. And they bring in one of their producers that Dr. Phil had for like 10 years was a former FBI agent and his whole job. We're here to... I get Dr. Phil's voice down. Hold on. Well, he's older by the time... By the time that I was watching Dr. Phil. Because you and my wife and I went to a Dr. Phil taping. I do know that. You looked pretty frail when we saw him. Today, we're here. That was... Yeah, it's a little bit more nasal. A little bit naked. Yeah. Today we're looking for... It actually is on... Genuinely, it is John Madden, nasally and not as excited. Yeah. You're not stumbling. He's very like... Today, we're looking for, you know... Well... And he's got his clipboard. He sits like this. Dumb. His hands on top of his clip are all the time. Pull up a Dr. Phil in between with it. He's just on top of his... Now... Today, we're trying to find... This man says that he can't remember anything about his light, you know... Anyway, we were fans of Dr. Phil for a while. Then he got weird. Yeah, Dr. Phil... Prime time Dr. Phil was... Was a great shell. Hold on, hold on. She found what I was looking for. It's kind of great. We're doing how often he just does his hands on top of his clipboard like this. It's kind of like... Hey man, just like... Quit sitting... Dead on you were with this. He's like... Yeah. He found this control position and then just lived with it for a while. Yeah, just committed. Yeah. I... But I'm saying it. His hands were always on top of this thing. He's just being like... Yeah. That's crazy how accurate that was. And this is him... That episode is him trying to get this guy to quit pretending to be in a wheelchair. He's like, hey, stand up. He's stand up. I know you're faking it. I know you're not... Now you're not going to come on my show. You're not going to come on my show and lie to me. Now, I have many years working with the FBI. He always said that. He always like... Yeah, so he has... Dr. Phil's staff has a former FBI agent and his whole job is cases like this. Yeah. The FBI agent spent weeks trying to track this guy down, pulling every connection he knew. And one of the things they did is they did this age regression test. And so, they're like, this is what he looks like now. This is what he would have looked like when he was 40. This is what he would have looked like when he was 30. And they're like, does anybody recognize him from before he... Like, back when he was... Right, before he got old and I... Before he fell apart. Does he... Do noses do this? Do what? Look how his nose is so much lower. And then... I mean, I will say, like, your cartilage is the one thing that never stops growing. Like, your ears and your nose does just continue to grow. Yeah. And so, like, I guess your nose could droop a little. I guess it's possible. Where are our noses look the same? I don't know. Do a side by side. Robert, go look at our earliest videos. Side by side are noses. And see if they changed. Do we... Are our noses bigger? Are our ears bigger? My ears have always been very small. How big my nose gonna get? I mean, it'll get bigger. Maybe you could get a nose job too. Finally, your ears will grow into your head. One day by... You've had tiny little ears this whole time. But this does create a media circuit for him. He goes on... Yeah. And I had no idea that Jeff Probst had a daytime talk show. But he goes on Jeff Probst show. Who's Jeff Probst? The host of Survivor. Oh, that's all... Oh, yeah. And so, and he does a whole circuit of this. Media... Like, a major national television... He's like, I already know who I am. Yeah, and that's the whole bit. He's like, I don't know who I am. Does anybody know who I am? And what's crazy about it is nobody comes forward. Literally no one is like, yeah, I know that guy. Everything must go. Tillin's going out of business and saw our Patreon. It is now 6.99 for all success. People will freak out. They don't know we're joking. Tillin is not going out of business. That was a joke. But we are reducing the price of Patreon to $6.99 for all tears. You get every perk. You get access to Discord. You get access to every episode. See? You hype it that much. Oh my gosh. It is high. I know, but when you talk like that, it seems like we're really selling. I was trying to do a word selling bit. You know? I don't know. I'm a sleazy salesman. I want to make it... I straight up think that we've been doing that bit too long. That people are like, it's a little... This is the first time I've ever done the bit before. I was a sleazy salesman. No, we didn't. It was the whole way. Before I was Tuesday. Tuesday, Tuesday. We did those bits. Just leave it all in. Do this whole thing. Join us on Patreon. And even crazier, all of these different media outlets that he goes on, they all did their own independent investigations. Wait. And no one can find them. I... You were on Dr. Phil West. I recognized you from Dr. Phil West. No, I know. No, that's a whole... I remember that. I remember that. I remember that part. I don't remember the 30 years from 79 to 2004. Over your head. Over your head. You're so dumb one over here. I'll wait for you to finish your drink. Thanks. Yeah, we got to get to a clipboard. I think we actually have clipboards in the case over there. So this becomes like a pretty big thing. And like the cultural zeitgeist. They're going to have to wear a Florida State University student for his capsule. This is 2005 now, right? Well, this is much lighter. So now like they did the whole media thing in like 2007. Oh, okay. He got found in 2004, goes through the behavioral health system for a couple of years. Gets out in 2005. Okay. Lies with Catherine for a few years. And that's when he does the media circus or circuit. And then this is all... And they can't just DNA test them. That's strange. And so he... There's an FSU student, a film student at Florida State University, who calls you... And it's like, I want to do a documentary on you. And he convinces him to move to Florida to do this documentary. And so this is a kid by the name of... Wrong tab, hold on. Mr. Beast. And... First thing he did, a lot of people don't know that. He started as a serious documentary. I say this a lot about documentaries, is that somewhere in the world right now, I'm stalling to give you time to look at this. I got it. Somewhere in the world right now, there are people with their little cameras, following the most insane person you've ever thought of. And in a couple of years. And like we don't know that for a couple of years. Yeah. You know? And a couple of years. Like the Tiger King. They were following that Tiger King guys. And I've said this on a podcast before. Yeah. As they were recording that wrong number lady. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. That's true. And like, there's something crazy. Someone out there is setting up the thing. They're put on the mic. And they're doing the whole like, yeah, I'm actually the most absurd person you can even imagine. So in 2011, this kid, John Wickstrom is his name. Chris Capstone project. This is him. He calls... He calls Benjamin. And he's like, hey, come out to Florida. I want to film the documentary for you. And so he films it for his school project. And basically gets a chance to tell. Benjamin gets a chance to tell his whole story. And John... My mom is what it's called. And it's a montage of Benjamin walking around town, walking up to like a little bulldozer, like a little thing. Are you my mom? A lot of people... No. Hey, this is me auditioning to like read children's books. No. I'm not. You were mom. And then he continued on. To go to... He walks up to the wacky inflatable arm guy. And a car dealership. You're my mom. Are you my mom? No. No. No. No. No. They do not believe in the police terms. They don't believe in that. The idea that the wacky inflatable arm guys are being tortured. They don't like it. They don't like it. And they can't get into stock. Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- Don't- I like that a lot. There's this smile is painted on. That's really funny. Don't- Don't die. That's funny. Don't do that yet, thank you. That's funny. That's my abs hurt. That's a good one. Yeah, so John is like, I'm going to solve this. Yeah. And so he starts making the documentary, but what's interesting is he tells later stories about the process of making this documentary and he said it was really interesting because we would make progress on something and then he was like Benjamin would sort of get in the way. Sabotage it. Yeah, stop us from being able to pull on that thread. And so he's like, so we kind of put out the documentary. It was just kind of like, this guy doesn't know who he is and we don't either. But I was like, where we landed and he's like, I had a deadline. It was for school. And so like, we kind of just had to leave it at like, yeah, this guy's no idea who he is and we don't know either. And the reason we don't know is kind of because he didn't seem like he didn't want us to know. And so this attracts the attention of some actual documentarians. Yeah. Some ones are like, alright, alright. It's OK. Why don't you get out of the way? Let us make a film. Let us make the movie. OK. Let us make a film. Hey, yeah, my dis. How about this. All right. You go back to class. Are you going to go back to school? The book? The book? The book? The book. 都有一 Per Second pencils and racers and whatever. Other kids' school stuff. and let us make a good proper document. So I have my dad, little kid. So it was like, okay. Well, yeah. Okay. So people who make documentaries kind of are scum. It's this organization called Hot Snakes, which sounds insane. Hot Snakes. Hot Snake. Which. Okay. I don't like that. These two. This is Eric. I don't like it. And even more. Now that I've seen them because he look, okay. So she looks a little bit like Katy Perry. And he looks like a Twilliquist doll. Yeah. This is their Hot Snakes media, Hot Snakes media. And uh, okay. Eric and Shannon of Angelista, um, evangelista, evangelista, uh, Eric spent 14 years as a broadcast news and newspaper journalist and Shannon worked for, uh, the Fed, uh, all right. Cool. And so they were like, Hey, we could take our two unique sets of skills and make good documentaries. So they started making documentaries for an investigation discovery. Um, okay. So they had like more funding. Yeah. Yeah. So they approached Benjamin and they were like, Hey, we can, in 2014, like, Hey, we have the resources to figure this out. And like, we're going to go long haul and we're going to figure this out with you. Cool. And so it's like, that would be awesome. And he's, they were like, one thing we noticed is you have a lot of memories from Colorado, like if you're 23 memories, the majority of them are out there in Colorado. And they're like, have you ever been, he's like, it's Colorado. And, and he's like, you should know this, dude. It's Colorado. Anybody from Colorado calls it Colorado. People from outside, they say it, like, they say it, like they're throwing up, they say it like they're actively throwing up Colorado, like that, I genuinely gag as that's coming out. My, I can feel my tongue. Colorado. Yeah. Gross. It's so gross. How you grew up? So cool. And now you live here. I, I think about it every day. And, and it crushes the thought, like comes in. It starts up here in my brain and you're like, well, I'm like, I'll put you down. I'm so much weight. Now I live in blue springs. You can feel the weight just push through me and into my chest. Yeah. And it just feels suffocating. Yeah. So just, and that's the housing market. Yeah. That's, that's that. So the Evangelistas are like, hey, we've got the resources. Let's go take you to Denver. So you can see all these places in Colorado that you have these memories about. And so you guys heard it, right? What? He just said Colorado. I said, I still know what you're talking about. Say it. Call the rato. That's how I say it. That's how I've always said it. And every single time I've said Colorado, I say Colorado. Okay. And they, they explored the city to give them a chance to kind of go through. And there's video footage of him walking around the streets and be like, oh, I remember this place. I recognize this. He's like, it's like this place just opened like, I remember this. And I'm like, yeah, I was founded two years ago and he's like, yeah, it's, yeah, but I remember, I remember it before though, too, I think they had it and then they closed it. And now they just reopened it. Yeah. No, but it's interesting watching them because like throughout the whole, I watched the, it's a four part documentary. I watched the whole thing. And throughout the whole documentary and the early part of it is like, he can't remember anything. He's super foggy. They get him to Colorado. And he's going around. He is like, oh, yeah, turn left here. This is Colfax. And like, he's like clearly remembering the city very well. And he's like, oh, right up here, there's, there's a taco place. It's, it's Casupanita. And then they show Casupanita, he's like clearly remembering things very well now that he's there. Yeah. And then they take him up the boulder because they're like, he's like, he's like, I do one of his memories was at University, Colorado, so they take him there, they take him to the library. He gets the library. The library is weird. He doesn't remember the library. And then they go to the mountains here. Members read rocks. They go along this mountain pass. And he's like, he's like, yeah, a lot of the, he's like locals, we drive those all the time. People from out of town, they get freaked out. We call it the Oh, no road because that's what people from out of town say when they're on this road. Yeah. If they get out of the car and he's like, oh, pull over here, pull over here. And they pull off on this, just like this side road in the mountains and they come up and they pull over. And there's this cliff. There's this big drop off. I actually have a photo from this part in the documentary and he stops and he looks over this drop off. Here's my buddy's down there. And he looks back at the camera and he says, he says, I don't remember this at all. Pull over here, pull over here. Yeah, he's just treasin' this it. Yeah. I don't remember this at all. I don't remember this. No, he looks, he points out, he looks at it and he says, it'd be a good place to hide a body. He's like, no one would ever find him here. And they're like, what? What'd you just say? And then he just laughs at the camera. And then he just puts back out of the mouth. So they are like, okay, that's strange. That was a strange interaction. And they take him back. They end up... They're a good place to hide a body. Okay, I think we're done. So I was right when I was like, I killed that guy. Okay. So they film all this stuff in Colorado, it's 2014, and they meet with a bunch of just local restaurants because he remembers restaurants. And he actually knows like a lot about like details of working in a commercial kitchen where it's like, oh, you know enough where you've probably worked with some of these things before. You know, like you can tell some details. And let me see here. Here's the deal about the Evangelistas. Like these are serious filmmakers. And so they're not just talking to Benjamin. Right. They go and they track down the Burger King employee who found him. And they tell us your story and they film her. And she tells the whole story. And what's interesting about her story is she says, yeah, I got to work. And I found him lying behind the garbage can naked. And so I called the, I called 911 and they came and they picked him up. It was kind of that. Like it was kind of an interesting way to start the day. But I was it. And she's like, oh, that's interesting. She said, all the reports we hear is like he's beaten and bloodied and like covered in sunburn and covered in fire ant bites. And she lasts. She's like, yeah, none of that's true. Like he was just naked behind the dumpster. And they're like, oh, that's interesting. Okay. So then they contact the hospital. Hospital carb writes that. And they're like, yeah, it was just a naked man. There was nothing in a system. We checked a system. Make sure he wasn't like under the influence of anything. There was nothing in the system. Yeah. Like he was talking to us and like he couldn't remember his name or anything like that. But the notes from the doctor. So they believe he's malingering, which malingering is a medical tool to a medical term for lying. Right. They're like, we don't think he doesn't remember anything. We think he's just pretending not to remember. Pretending not to remember. For sure. Okay. And so they confront him about this. And he. They go, hey, the doctors say this. And he goes. I don't. Remember. I don't remember. Dock. What's a doctor? Moline. We're going to have the doctor. We're going to have to tell him what a doctor is. He's like, he's like, you. Tell me right now. He has to tell me what a doctor is. What's a doctor? What's a doctor? And so they're filming this. Okay. They're traveling, meeting all these different people in the middle of their travels to meet the people who are allegedly a part of this first pick up. The news comes out that he has had so many people reach out to him to try to help him. Yeah. And one of the people who tried to help him was a genealogist who was like, let's get some DNA. Let's figure this out. And we can track it down. And she was another one who she got really close and he cut her off and just stopped talking to her. Yeah. And so she connects with another famous genealogist. And they end up tracking down that his birth name, they tracked down his whole family. His whole family tree, his birth name and everything. And they realize his name is actually. His will is. His birth name is William Burgess Powell, so this is William Burgess Powell. And they find this out. And they're like the documentarians are like, oh, we know who he is now. Now we have like a lot more to go off of. Sure. They know he was born in Indiana. They know he's got. Wait, how did they put that together? Genetics. And so they did. They got a DNA sample. They got a DNA sample. They did DNA tests. They tracked down William Burgess Powell. William Burgess Powell. And so this comes to this hits the news. And this is like hitting nationwide news because he was the doctor feel like nobody knows who this guy is guy. And so everyone's talking about we know who this guy is. Yeah. And the charity in in Florida called ID, ID, something they work with him to get his first ID. And he got a picture when he finally got an ID and was able to be William Burgess Powell. A legally alive human again, which is a big deal because he talks about in the documentary. He's like, it's a terrible loop because if you don't have a social security number, you can't get a job. If you can't prove an income, you can't get a place to live. If you can't get a place to live, you don't have a mailing address. You can't get an ID. If you can't get an ID, you can't get a social security number. And he's like, so you're just kind of stuck in this loop where it's like, yeah, you have no way to solve the problem. Like it's impossible. And so finally, figuring out this name, working with us other organization to get an ID was a huge moment for him and a pretty big deal. Hey, October 22nd, we're doing Tillon Live as part of the Fountain City Comedy Festival here in Kansas City. You got a Tillon.com slash live for more information. You get passes. There's going to be more than just us. Oh, yeah. It's like legitimately not an advertisement right now. The festival's pretty sick. Like, there's a really great lineup, a lot of really good comics. This thing's been growing a lot the past couple of years, so really cool to be the part of it. And so hopefully we'll see you there. And so they were the documentarians were there with him for that moment. And it was a beautiful thing, you know, like it's kind of like, oh, this guy who couldn't remember his life is getting his life back together. I mean, spent 10 years now homeless, just because he doesn't know who he is, really what the problem is. And so, but they now have a pretty big thing to commit to if you're lying. Yeah. Yeah. If you're lying, it's pretty crazy to be like, I'm going to be homeless for 10 years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you killed someone. Coming up next, this man says that he's been homeless for 10 years, but our team might have another idea. So they track down his family in Lafayette, Indiana, which is with the town he wrote he's from. Yeah. And the documentarians, they just go and they leave, they don't go with him, they go on their own and they just go around town and they're like, hey, do you know William Powell? And it's a small town, everybody does. And everybody's like, yeah, I remember that guy. And a lot of the town is like, I'm not going to talk to you about that guy. Yeah. And a lot of the town is like, you should stop asking about that guy. You don't want to be involved with that guy. Okay. So they end up tracking down a couple of people who are willing to talk about him. And they piece together this story about his life. He was born in 48, I was correct, but his dad had anger issues. His dad was horribly abusive. And they do end up talking to one of his brothers and they find out like, this is like extreme abuse to the point where he like, he stabbed his brothers, he shot one of the kids in the leg like insane level of abuse. And so at 14, he runs away from home, William Powell, and we actually have a picture of him, like a school picture of him from when he was a kid, which definitely is the same guy. Yeah. But his nose is smaller though, his nose is smaller there. There's a point in the documentary where they do bring him back to Lafayette and he sees this and he's like, he's like, yeah, we all had those flat haircuts back then. And I remember we all had the flat top. That was so cool. And he made a big deal about the flat top. We all had the flat top. Um, we all had the flat top. He does talk like that. Does he talk like that? He does talk like that. Did I nail it immediately? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean, we all had the, we all had the flat tops. And you see this hill down here to be a problem. You get a higher body down there. You get a higher body down there. You get a higher body down there. He sounds like a paltry of money. Well, you can hide a body down there. And so we're getting a left here for Christmas. They piece together this story from people in the town that he ran away from home at 14. You got a lot to get to. You're pushing through. You ran away from home at 14. Run out of time. Lair's pulling her gun out. This is what happens if we push over an hour, Blair pulls a gun on Tim. Hurry up and says, hey, you're taking too long. You're taking too long. Faster. She sounds like that, too. You're taking too long. Blair, she doesn't sound like that. She doesn't talk. So William runs away from home, starts working a lot of jobs throughout Lafayette. Yeah. Not to be confused with the hats. What? Other people will get it. It went over here. Oh, no. Okay. Okay. No, he's just went over there. Yeah. This guy has too small a kid. He can't lock on to my head. He's too big. He's going. He's working different jobs. He works on a job. He gets a job. He gets a job at the movie theater, works the movie theater for a little bit, gives restaurant jobs. When is this? This is grown up. He's after he's run away from home at 14. Yeah. In mid 60s, early 70s. Yeah. This is the timeline. And he's not grown up. He's 16. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. He's run away from home. And so. He's the advocate for a strip club in Laffa, and he needs him. Yeah. I didn't think about that. I didn't think about, you're starting a company company. Did I reach out to London? It's an adapt market. Yeah. It's honestly pretty easy to hire cleaners. That's great. We do have a cleaning company. I'm not going to tell you anything more about it. He ran away from home and like he's living homeless because he's like that situation was so bad. I'd rather live in the streets since he's trying to find a place to live. It ends up in 1973. He finds someone who lets him move into a mobile home on their property. So they have just a trailer outside their house. And the documentary's putting all this together apart from him. Yeah, they pieced all this storyline together apart from him. Okay. And what's interesting is in 1976, there's something that basically the whole town remembers this event, but they won't tell the documentarians why. They said in 1976, Powell was out late with his friends. And then they, they at about one o'clock left the bar and then they drove his red station wagon into the woods, removed the license plate, ditched it and they left for Colorado. And they never came back and that's the last time anybody saw them. And people from the town, I should say the majority of people from the town do not have any idea why this happened. They're like it was a really weird thing. Nobody knows why they found the station wagon. Yeah, and they said they filed the missing persons report. And like this, it was a whole search. People were trying to find them. Nobody found them and everybody just assumed they died. Okay. There are some people in the town that like when pressed on it are like, I'm not gonna go into that. Like I'm not gonna talk about that. And so like something interesting is going on here. Meanwhile, they're like, hey, we found your family. You want to come back to Lafayette, like get a place to live, meet your brother wants to meet you. And cause it's been 30 years now, 40 years since his brother. And so he meets his brother. This is his brother. Vern, Vern. Hold on, he's got a weird name. Surprise when he went on Dr. Phil, he wasn't like, this guy kind of looks like Dr. Phil. Also loved that his flip phones out. Also, look at Stachi Wyendom. All's also. Yeah, okay. His name is Fernum. Ferman, Ferman Powell. Ferman? Ferman Powell, Jr. Sure. And so they go back to their grandmother's house, which is the house that they grew up in and they do a reunion. And they got this whole thing in the documentary. Okay. And it's like, it's honestly kind of a beautiful moment of like two brothers who haven't seen each other in decades. Shoot each other in a way. Like reuniting. And like you can tell, like Benjamin or William, whatever his name is. You can tell he remembers his brother. But you can tell he's trying to act like he doesn't remember his brother. And so he's like, he's like, what's your name? And like you can see on his face that he's like, oh my God, it's my brother. But like he's acting like he doesn't recognize him and then they're trying to catch up and all this stuff. So he's not as good an actor as I am. Correct. Cause watch best friend. No, this guy for a little watch out quick. I mean, like who are you? Do I know you? What's your name? I'm sorry. I'm Bruce Willis. You are Bruce Willis. Yeah, it's in the eyes. I don't know if you can see Robert, can you? Robert, pay attention. Robert, pay attention when you're in the game. You zoom in my eyes. You can see the little bit of like a, like a little bit. Okay, I'll do it a little closer here. I'll cheat out. I go, that's a term cheating out. Cheating out. Yeah, cheat out is a subtle, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm very good. I'm like a good actor. Put that in my real. Speaking of Bruce Willis, I don't tell you how, remember what I shaved my head and call it? Cut this crap out. So we got a lot to get you. Players loading are gone. The player's freaking. Players got a good. Players got a gun. So Furman and Taylor's gonna come on. No, I remember, speaking of Bruce Willis, remember when I shaved my head bald? Yeah. Did I ever tell you that I was genuinely, and this is not a joke. You thought that it was like a, yeah. That I looked like, not Bruce Willis, but Vin Diesel, you're like, I look good like this. I clearly remember putting on one of those, those white, two, those white muscle shirts and standing in front of my mirror and being like, I do look like Vin Diesel. And then I went to the gym at Avangel, which I never did, and I started doing girls with the thing. I started doing girls. I was like, I do look like Vin Diesel. I'm like, oh yeah, that is like Vin Diesel. I am Vin Diesel. And then I left the gym that night and I walked home and I strutted more than I ever strutted across that corner. And I'm like, I'm Vin Diesel, baby. Yeah. And then someone was like, what's up, loser? And I was like, oh. And someone said, hey, Tim. And you're like, that is my name. That is my name, I'm not Vin Diesel. So he's at the family reunion clearly trying to pretend, not a good actor. Yeah, and then they say, hey, you guys want to have a moment? Like you guys can go inside, we'll leave, we'll go back out to the car. Like, what do you think we're going to kiss? We're brothers. My brother's really nice. You guys want to have like a moment? No. There is actually, he does. The brother is like, hey, I found this. Our mom kept this, because he's like, our mom, she's like, she grieved you till the day she died when you just disappeared. She'd never stopped grieving your loss. And she's like, she kept all your things. And she's like, this is your Pinewood Derby Car that you and dad made. And he grabs that Pinewood Derby Car. And you can see like tears well up in his eyes, like from the memories. Yeah. And so it's like, he know. Like, you know he knows from watching that. Right. But they're like, hey, we'll let you guys have a moment. You can show them around the house, see if he remembers anything. Like we're going to turn the cameras off where you're good. And so they go inside. He still has a microphone. Yeah, they're, they're, they're Mike. Yeah. And they don't realize it. So they go in and, oh my gosh. And William is talking to his brother, for a minute. And William is like, yeah, I would have loved to see Robert, but Robert wants nothing to do with me. And Furman is like, yeah, well, he's like, he's like, you have a lot to a tone for. And like, and it's kind of strange that he says this, but he's like, he's like, and you know, Navajo communities, like you have to go do a cleansing before, like you can be considered clean for the things that you've done. And he says, because, because William, killing people is a big deal. And that's where they end an episode. I guarantee you that the set of events, like killing people with a big deal credits. I just know, and that's where we're ending this one too. If you want the rest of this, join us on Patreon. Give us money. I tried Blair. Hey, killing people is a big deal. It's a big deal. Relax. And so they are like, hold on, what? And so they go back to a lot of these people who had some serious questions about them. And from doing this, they are able to kind of piece together this story where he, along with a couple other guys, a guy by the name of Chico Gates. Okay. And a guy by the name of, let me get this guy's name, George Keck. They were all associates with each other in town. Yeah. And without going into too much detail, what they begin to discover is there was a crime family that oversaw Lafayette that was connected to Chicago, the Chicago mob. Okay. And these three were the muscle. And they were the ones who would go out and kill the people who got in the mob's way. And it's very interesting because in the documentary, there's a scene where they tell William. They're like, hey, William, they get him a place in Lafayette so he can get back on his feet. He's got a house there. And they call him meeting in Lafayette. They're like, hey, we track someone down that. Things they remember, some other stuff from your past. You want to meet him and he's like, absolutely. I would love to meet someone who can help me piece together the past that I don't remember. And Chico walks in the room and William will not look at him. Like, he will not, and Chico stands over him like a bear. And he's like just locked eyes on him and like puffed up and just like ominously over him like, look what you did, like kind of attitude. It's like, you messed up. Okay. And William is like a scared dog. It is one of the strangest things to see like in this documentary. Yeah, in this documentary. And they leave the room. They do the same thing. They leave the room, leave a, leave the mics on. Well, they were smart enough. They were like, hey, can you take the mics but they had planted hidden cameras? Of course. So they didn't know that. And they, what the documentarians are like, you can tell in this conversation that they suspect that there's hidden cameras in here. And they are talking to each other as if Chico is trying to alert him of what they know. And so he is telling him, yeah, we talked about, he's like, he's like, I don't remember everything but like they were talking about how like we ditched your car and like we took off the plates or something. Like do you remember that? And he's like, he's like, they're trying to get their story straight. And he's like, but he's trying to do it in a way. Yeah. That isn't it like, okay, here's what we're gonna do. It's like, it's like we're trying to play this off. Yeah. And so they align their stories. And then they do the same thing with another guy at the Thomas Keck. Thomas Keck significantly older. And the way they play Thomas Keck is actually really interesting. Okay. Because Thomas Keck again, a significantly older man and what they do is he agrees to meet with Eric and they have a meeting they talk and he's not really playing ball. But on that talk, Eric is like here, my wife has some questions. Let me pull her up and see if you can talk to her and he pulls her up on the phone so she can talk to him and he's a little bit more open to talking to her on the phone. Now, and so she comes and she's trying to be really friendly and she talks to him like she is like gossiping with him. And so she's like, yeah, so she's like, and so what do you remember from that night? And she's like, and that's kind of crazy because they were telling me this and he just kind of like starts opening up to her. But here's the thing they know about Thomas. Thomas was also a serial abuser. Thomas almost got put away for the murder of a girl by the name of Christine Kozik in 1977. And the only reason he didn't is because the whole storyline that he that incriminated him came from his wife who was the witness in the whole story. And she ended up not testifying. And so he didn't go away for murder for that because that was the only evidence they had. He threatened his wife. Yeah, and he terribly abused her. Terribly terribly abused her. And so obviously Shannon talking to him is very nervous talking to this man. She knows he's a dangerous man. Even though like in this, he just looks like a harmless old man. Yeah. And so she talks to him and gets him to spill a lot more of the story but it's still not enough for them to like conclusively tie things. And so what they want to do is they want to get his DNA to see if they can tie him back to these cold cases. Sure. And so they take him to a Mongolian grill and they said, we thought this would be perfect because it was a buffet style and they were like, we could just wait for him. We'll grab an extra fork, we'll grab an extra straw at the beginning of the meal and wait for him to go up for seconds and take his fork in his straw and just replace them with the new ones. And then we have his DNA and we can go get that tested. Okay. Very clever. And so they do that. They ask for when he stands up, he takes his fork in his straw because he knows this. And he goes, you think this is my first time around there? He's like, I will cut you. I know a good place to hide a body. And what's interesting is they verify. Is he gets up for seconds? They get the stuff, they're having the meal. But he never trust anyone who takes you to a Mongolian barbecue. He is hot. Telling them everything, like in detail, everything that ever happened. And here's the thing. They're talking about murders. Dude, all you have to do is, all you have to do is give a guy some spicy beef. You know what I'm talking about? And then he's like, yeah, I killed that girl. They're talking about murders. And so somebody else in the Mongolian girl calls the police and they're like, hey, the table next to us is like graphically describing the murders he did. And so the police show up and they get kicked out like cause they were like, I don't understand how the guy didn't get arrested, honestly. He was just emitting them a bunch of murders. Yeah. So they go to Penaera. And he doesn't get a Penaera. They get more samples from him to Penaera, which is crazy. OK. And then what's really interesting, they're talking to Chico, they're talking to Keck, they're talking to William, talking to all these other people, they end up finding part of this crime family. And the documentary is really interesting because once they get closer to this crime family, the people that they talk to are very scared to be talking about. Yeah. And so they are all like, I won't show my face. You have to blur everything. You have to disguise my voice. There are things I'm not going to tell you about. There's even one person at one point in the documentary who calls them and says, I'm leaving. I don't exist anymore. I'm taking my money. I'm skipping town. I don't exist to you. And so they're clearly starting to ruffle some feathers of some people. And they end up getting this call from someone in the crime family who tells them everything. And it's like, yeah, they killed somebody. What happened was this person got in in the way of this crime syndicate. And they said, OK, we're going to have to have you, Chico, specifically Chico and William, you're going to take care of them. Yeah. And you're going to go to Colorado and you are dead. You disappeared. And they were like, we are going to bankroll the rest of your life. And they're like, we're just going to make sure you, because you're not going to be able to ever work again. Yeah. And you're just going to live off the grid and Colorado for the rest of your life and we're just going to send you money. And so that is what happened. He moved to Colorado. They wired him money for 30 years until the boss of this crime family died. And the kids took over. And the kids are like, we're not going to pay this guy anymore. Get it going. We're not going to pay this guy. And so they stopped paying him. And all of a sudden, he is off the grid. Has it worked for 30 years? Doesn't have a social security number. Yeah. Because even if you look at a social security record, he's still like, there's only one thing to do. I mean, like, OK. And so he concludes that the only option for him is for him to look like a crazy person who got attacked and forgot everything. And then they start to restore his life. That's what he assumed would happen. But the system in the United States doesn't care about you. And he's like, oh, it's kind of sucks. I'm just homeless now. Yeah. And so he thought that that would be his opportunity to kind of restore his life, have been able to make an income again. But it wasn't. And it took a decade of being in the limelight, which was obviously not what he wanted. But at the same time, kind of smart for him. Because he knew if this crime family knows he knows, he's dead. Right. And so he's like, he's like, OK, I can be in the public eye. I can come back into real life. I don't remember anything. I don't remember any of it. And so he comes back and he goes to the nines being in the public eye, but not remembering anything while they are all looking. And nobody finds anything until they all did. Here's the crazy thing about this. This documentary team, they started filming this in 2014. This documentary released in May, 2026. And so they have been following the story, trying to piece this together for over a decade. And they just released it. And when they released it, they said, no convictions have been made in any of these cases. They also said, because it's all come together so recently, they also said, William has cut them off. William, and they went back to his house to be like, hey, what's going on? His house is empty, like he's not there. And so he's disappeared again. And no one knows where he is. And so he is on the run now. He's either on the run or they got him, which is crazy. And so I am pretty sure over the next few years, like this story is going to come back up because someone's going to figure out what actually happened in this second disappearance. But right now, right now, he's B.K. Cooper. Yeah, exactly. Running straight up the mom again. D.B. Cooper. You're right. That's actually a crazy story. I can't believe we've never done it. OK. But yeah, that's a, that's this guy. Wow. You know, what they say. But you know what I like about this photo is you can immediately tell he's a mob enforcer. You know what I'm talking about? Just pull up the other one. Pull up the one that you know. This guy and no. This guy enforces for the mob. It is crazy to see. It's just crazy to see because you see these guys when they're old and like these guys just seem like just normal old guys. You know, but it's like, but when he was young, this was this guy. And when this guy was young, this was this guy. Also, it doesn't really seem like an enforcer, but it does seem like a creep. Yeah, yeah, he does, but what's crazy is that moment where he said, and this is where you hide a body, what the documentarians were like, we actually tracked down. There was a John Doe body that was founded in that ravine in the 80s. And they were like, nobody I'd ever saw of that case. And they're like, we think he admitted to a murder there was what he was doing, which is wild. At that point, he's just playing with his food. You know, he's just kind of like, yeah. And that's where you hide a body. If, I mean, crazy, right? Crazy. Yeah. And in Catherine, I forgot about this whole part with Catherine. When he was with Catherine, he abruptly left Catherine because Catherine was getting close. And so he abruptly moved. And when he moved, he got really aggressive with her. And he's like, he's like, I'm leaving. And he took a, she's like, he took a bunch of paper from his room. And he went into the backyard and he burned it all, like a ton of paper and burned it all in the backyard. And I was fighting him. I was telling him not to, like, this is my yard. You can't burn this here. And she's like, I was spraying a circle of water around it. So when it's spread, and she's like, it was this whole scene. And then she's like, he went inside and he did something to the computer. And then he left. And then I never saw him again. And so the documentarians were like, do you still have that computer? And she was like, yeah, and they brought it to a forensic data scientist to go back and see what they could find. And they found backups on the machine from the time when he was living there. They said he had a tour browser, which is the browser you used to access the dark web. And they said that his safari. And they said that his traffic, he had a forensic wiping system so you could back it, like, delete the data of the things that you were doing. But they said that some of it survived. And they said that the things he was looking for on there was assassin-type stuff. And so it was like the stuff where you know, assassins for hire. And he was trying to get jobs. Yeah, and then there was also, I can't remember exactly what this said, but this is so crazy. It was like, there was like a search on there for something along the lines of like, and this is going to sound crazy. But it was like, ritual dances for Satan. Dead serious, I'm not making that up. This is not a bit. I'm not doing like a bit of a lot of bit. Oh, I thought that was serious ritual dances for Satan, which I think was him trying to like plant things of like, oh, he's crazy. But he also might have been crazy. Because what's the music for those ritual dances? It's a fiddle off. Hey, thanks for listening to this episode of Things Are The Last Night. If you liked it and you want another one, like it, the Lake City Quiet Pills are also an interesting old man doing something sketchy online kind of thing. So check that one out. Also, next week's episode is available right now. And we have a discord with a bunch of Tillin fans who get to know each other and hang out. And we have Monthly Hangouts. When does this book come out? Who knows? Who knows? So at some point, there will be a Monthly Hangout. We'd love to see you there. And we'll see you there. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.