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Hey man, what's up? Have you heard of Adam and Emily Foster? Yeah, yeah, yeah, they had that song that what's up? They're the the foster people or what what's the people? What about them? They're having a baby boy. Hey, congratulations guys, we're so excited for you. They messaged us on Facebook and they were like, hey, could you tell us what the baby is going to be? And we just guess. No, congratulations, you're having a baby boy. Some name recommendations. If it's, you know, I know you're not there. I know right now you're like, oh my gosh, oh my gosh, you guys are like, yeah, oh, we should do the Michael Scott thing where it's like, you know, but I know you guys are celebrating right now. I really like the name Jaren. Oh, interesting. Just want to put it out there or tip. Oh no. So congratulations. And you know, we're very excited to be the male role models in this baby boy's life. Let's get to the episode. Hey man, what's up? Have you ever heard of Prospera? Yes, this is what Joel Osteen preaches. Oh, he preaches Prospera. Honestly, if you know, can I do a Joel Osteen? I don't think I can. I'm going to be honest with you. It's just slightly southern, but you know, he's rich. You know what I mean? That accent. Yeah. And God said, no, yeah. And God said, dude, this is my Bible thing. That'll get you there. This is my this is my Bible. This is my Bible. There are many like it, but this one is mine. So I don't know what I guess. I think a confident guy just gives you a limp hand. I think that that. That's Celsius is hitting me wrong right now. There's the. It's hitting me in the wrong way. It's hitting me sideways. Things I learned last night. This is my this. This is my Bible. Yes, that's it. I think that's it. That's the voice. That's it. My Bible. This is my Joel Osteen. Hear my Bible. I like it. This was mine. Give us your money. What? This is this is his line. This is my Bible. There are many like it. No, I was off because I thought it was modeled off. This is my rifle. This is my gun. But what is that? It's like an army thing. It's like an army thing. The army thing. This is my rifle. This is my gun. There are many like it, but this one is mine. And there's something else here. This is my rifle. This is my gun. There is the enemy. Now there are none. It's it's like a fun little thing that they teach the Marines. Yeah, because they're dumb. Oh, it's not actually from the army. It's from the movie full metal jacket. Gosh, it's so fun. This is crazy. I knew it was in full metal. I knew it was in full metal jacket, but I thought it was like real, but it says real. They're sat, satirizing military indoctrination. They're doing what? Satirizing. Yeah. And now that I'm now that I'm realizing this is not a friendly quote for a podcast. Anyways, so Joel Osteen, though, is this is my Bible. I am what it says I am. I have what it says I have. I can do what it says I can do. Today, I will be top of the word of God. I boldly confess my heart is alert. My heart is receptive. I'll never be the same. And Jesus named my men. So can you name it, Jackson? There's my Bible. It's an army thing. And so what is Prospera? Oh, yeah, that's right. Prospera. So Prospera is a place in Robotan Honduras. Robotan is an island in Honduras. Yeah, the ships go there. What? Yeah, I get off the boats here. Oh, really? Robotan is a beautiful island. Robotan's beautiful. It's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, look right there. There's the coast. Is that really? That's not where the cruise is on. But there is a cruise ship port there, because I get off the boat. And yeah, we get off in a robotan. Yeah, Robotan, a couple things about it. It's a hunter and I flew home from here last time in like the southern Caribbean. Yeah. And this barrier reef around it is part of the second largest barrier reef in the world. Okay. So beautiful, beautiful island. Lots of like just a lot of culture there. Very, very cool place. Yeah. And Prospera is this community on the island that you know, as we're getting into this, I kind of want to like, you remember that girl I dated who was like a missionary to Honduras? No. Desk. Oh. And I forgot I called her desk. Yeah, you called her desk. I also think about this too. Now that we're married, we're just supposed to just not talk about supposed to forget about. And it's like, there's so much material I could mine from those girls. I dated it because I dated a lot of dumb girls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, but anyway, that girl got shot by the way. She's fine. She did good shot. Not in her under. But, uh, no, but that's yeah, she lived in Honduras. It's so crazy. I just think it's crazy that you dated this girl and I just you called her desk for like a year. Yeah. Very rude. Yeah. I was like, oh, yeah, you're like, oh, yeah, desk. And it's not funny. It's so dumb. Hey, you thought it was so funny. That was hilarious. And I think it's hilarious. It's not funny. It was really rude. I did think it was funny. And I actually do think it's funny. So I can't think about Honduras without revisiting the past. But go ahead. Okay. So in like the 70s or 80s, there was a kid by the name of Octavio Sanchez. Uh, cool name was, uh, in 16, he wrote a political sci-fi book. And the concept of the book was he was getting these pamphlets, uh, like government bulletins from the Honduran government from the year 2050, like painting the picture of like where Honduras got. Okay. And so it was like, it was this whole, it was kind of a sci-fi kind of like a political triities of like, here's my vision for what our society could be. Sure. And keep in mind, this is a 16 year old kid. Um, and he just, this is what it does in his free time. He puts the book out. Um, and basically the, the concept was that, uh, Honduras, he said, it's not poor because like there was a lack of like capacity of the people in Honduras to go out and become wealthy. It was a broken institution of the government. Okay. And so it was, I mean, to put it bluntly like a libertarian dream is like what the book was. It was like, we need to remove all, all legislations, all, all requirements, everything that stops businesses from being able to just go fast. Be business. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Um, and this kind of became like a rules and yeah, regulations. Yeah. Yeah. Safety, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, protections, anything like that. Sure, sure, sure. Um, and so this was like kind of like a folk thing in this libertarian community for a couple decades. Um, and then in 2009, uh, a economist who ended up becoming a Nobel laureate by the name of Paul Romer. This is Paul Romer. Okay. Um, and I do have a picture of Octavio Sanchez. This might spoil some things this picture, but he did. I'm not reading any of the texts. I'm not reading anything. We got back to that. Yeah. He's the guy in the left. Which left are left? Okay. So you're right. The guy who looks like he's afraid of the camera guy. Yes. Like I was like, I know that guy. I know that guy. Because like, oh, I don't believe in my libertarian journey. I didn't know that you were the camera guy for this event. So, uh, Paul Romer, he puts out this TED talk on what he calls charter cities. And charter cities is what he gets his Nobel prize for. Okay. Um, have you heard of charter cities? You made a face like you have. I'm just worried about where this could go. Why? I just want to hear how your ideas. I think you know why I'm a little worried, but I want to hear it out. Uh, so a charter city. So basically, the idea is that, um, our legal system today is, uh, not conducive for business. You can't have a business that grows and is successful in the current legal system. There's too much red tape. And so he said for years, the business world has been lobbying in Washington to try to change this and make it easier to do business in the world. Um, and he says, this is a fool's errand. He said, he said, you're never going to a mass enough political will to make a big enough change that it really matters. And he says it's better to start with a clean slate. And so what he wanted to do is he wanted to establish charter cities. And so this was a relationship with, uh, municipalities, not really referencing where, but a municipality where you would then carve out some privately and in that, in that municipality and build your own dream city. And the city then would be run self-sufficient. It would not be using any of the resources of the outside municipality would not be connected. It was just, it just owns the land and does what it wants to do inside that land. So everything education, police, uh, infrastructure, it's all, it's own thing. It's all self-contained. And then rules, regulations, laws, it's all whatever they think makes the most sense for their right private charter citizens. My charter citizens. It's like a charter school. For example, if you're like, okay, what's an example of a charter city, it is Walt Disney's dream for Epcot. Actually. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty. Or it's like, I get to make the decisions. I get to make all the rules from what happens here. I get to make all the rules. Yeah. Because everybody else. And and I pose the question to you, listener, what could go wrong? You know, why not let a rich guy decide everything in your life in this little walled-off city? It's an interesting, that's an interesting point. It's a great question. I can't think of anything. I mean, that guy's rich. He must know better than me. He must be smarter than me. So Sanchez must be smarter than me, a dumb poor. So Sanchez kind of commits his life. I will say, though. I am smarter and I probably should be. You know, that's when I see stuff on social media, and I just go, ah, what? I don't like that you have the same level of voice that I have. You guys. I don't like the deal. I know what you're talking about. I've thought it before. The way that you were there. I understand that's not a great thought. I understand how Alex's fingers are ready to type right now. What I mean is that like you see people say stuff. Yeah. That's so not their best interest. Not even that. No, no, no, no, no, not because I don't have their best interest in my. I don't care what I mean is like they're saying something that you're like, what you're saying doesn't even make sense. Yeah, at all. Yeah. And you're right here on the internet being like, here's what I think. And you're like, hey, you need people. I just think we need more idiots like in our houses. You know, in our families where you had a family dumb. Yeah. And like kind of made fun of the family dumb and you isolated them. Family dumb. You need to start isolating the dumb. That's stuff with Thanksgiving. And you need the rest of the family to have enough backbone to be like, hey, that's stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? Doesn't happen now as everyone just goes like, and then they go to living room and they're like, you know, a stupid thing. I mean, he said he's not Thanksgiving anymore. That's what I'm saying. I think you have to you have to invite them to Thanksgiving to confront their stupidity and be around them. Does this make sense? Alex is looking at me like this is we're telling a good line right here. There is a toe for sure. There is a toe. Alex verdict. I don't know. Wrong, dumb, wrong, dumb. Shame him. Shame him. No matter what he said. Can you agree with me? Can you agree with me or disagree with me? Oh, no, you want to hear. I just want to know which I just want to know if he he he audibly clicked his mic off. That was funny. All right. Well, anyway, I agree with you. We've built a society that is much more isolated and that isolation breeds mold and these ideas are mold. I sort of yes. I think I probably could have worded a little more delicate. But at the same time, I couldn't know. And you know, yeah, I do think like I do think we we have allowed these people to separate from the communities that would correct them. Yes. And I think that's a problem. Those people. Yeah, I'm I mean, I'm bad ideas. No, I think I've had bad ideas, but I at least have some people who go. Yeah, you know what? But bad ideas are a different breed of bad ideas. Do you know what, though? We've we were talking about earlier, the level of of growth that we've had in the last 11 years. Yeah, I'd say probably probably more than that, probably 13, 14 years. I mean, I think I think go back through our podcast, like listen to I mean, especially me, the things I was saying at the beginning of our podcast versus now. Yeah, there was an episode I remember where I was like, I mean, I think the fire department should be private. Yeah, I was like, I'm a perfectly okay. And you live apart fully within on that too. Yeah, I used to genuinely. And you know what you need? You need a smarter friend. Uh, bigger, stronger, more handsome friend to say, hey, that's pretty dumb, buddy. And then what happens is that you fight back a little bit, you go, no, no, no, defensiveness. And then like two years later, you go, remember when I thought that dumb thing? Yeah. And it's like, yeah, dude, parks the thought you hear pressure conversations, peer pressure works. No, you do bring up a good point that I actually really wanted to talk about today. So I'm glad you brought this up. Okay. I saw it's Sarah Silverman clip today where she was talking about how I think you should leave. Most of the bits are confronting toxic masculinity, which I've never thought about before. But she used the example of the interview at one where he like does the interview he walks out? Oh, yeah. And he pulls, yeah, he pushes the door already. I put whatever. And the guy's like, I think it's a pull. And he's like, no, it goes both ways. And he didn't just like grids through and pushes it. Yeah, yeah. So it's like, you're not willing to accept that you're wrong. And she gets a couple of other examples. And so I was thinking I was like, what are some, it's just what are some like toxic masculinity things that are like common in the world today that like are under thought of? And I'm going to be. Oh, great. I'm going to go on woke. I can hear the people listening right now. They're like, oh, my gosh. We finally got Jared to quit crashing on his podcast. And now we got Tim lecturing us from his Subaru. Hong Kong, baby. I just took a shot of oatmeal. Can I'm ready to talk, baby? Let's go. Here's what I've been thinking. I've never heard somebody say this. I went to a sound healer the other day. And so now I'm ready to, ready to, ready to speak on it. You know what, you're right. This is stupid. I, yeah. You know what, you're right. You're welcome. You're welcome. We just had a whole tangent about the dumb friends. And then you were like, hey, I actually can be one of the dumb friends thinking about being dumb right now. Sorry. That was an example of me being toxically masculine. Whatever. So what, what is your thing? No, I'm just, you're going to think, but it's pretty hard. You're going to think, but it's pretty hard. Okay, let's hear it. I won't, I won't make one of it because I'm going to confront the master. I'm going to make fun of you weak little soy boy. Go ahead. No, I think a firm. No, I think okay. I think a firm handshake is kind of toxic masculinity. Yeah, because like, what is it? It's about exerting force. Yeah, it's a little, it's a little like, like you should, like I think, yeah, dude, hey, this is, this is, this is chosen. I think a confident guy just gives you a limp hand. I think that, that, that can be, it's boring. You're saying that in order to, to communicate confidence, I should just give you this. Yeah, because if you do that, it's like, it's like that guy doesn't even care how, he doesn't even want me to think it is, it's like super strong or anything. Like he doesn't, he doesn't even need to show me. He's so like self-assured. And then I came in, I heard his hand a little bit. He even went like, whoa. It's the push pull. Yeah. Anyway, I'll say what? I've been doing something toxically masculine to you lately. And then I don't answer your phone calls. I don't answer calls. Alphas, Alphas make phone calls. They don't answer them. All right. So anytime Tim calls me, I let it go to voicemail. Then I call him right back. And he says something beta like, hello. We also do this thing where we guys should we make like a man's, man's podcast. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. What's the other thing we do? We call each other and neither of us will say a word. And for like a long time, it's like, yeah. For a, it's just like, it's whoever taught it's like, we're in a sales deal. And it's like, whoever says the number first loses. Yeah. And it's been, you know, 15 minutes of us just on the phone doing our normal stuff. I've fully gone to the gym before. Okay. You talk now. I'm like, doesn't say a word. You guys see my traps just hearing this. Can you guys see my Hey, I hope you didn't find this episode because you were looking at Prospera. That sucks for you. Yeah. But I'm a weak soy boys doing things they stay on top. I'm a man and I control the conversation. So anyways, so Sanchez spent his life deep like a person. I'm a game rich. Yeah, that's good. So Sanchez spent his life kind of being a hunt in local Honduran like politics, campaigning for this libertarian dream. Okay. He gets to know God by the name of Porfirio Lobososa, who would have eventually become the president of Honduras. Okay. He gets him and he convinces him to take him on a trip to Miami to meet Paul Romer to design how they could get this theory to come to life. Okay. So they want to do charter cities. Yeah. And so they sit down with the Nobel laureate about the charter city thing. And in 2011, when Lobososa gets elected to president, they pass the RED special development region's law. And essentially what that did is it paved the way for private organizations to buy large plots of lands and then operate as their own city within. Is that what road time is? Uh, no. Well, most of it at least. Are you texting? No, I'm looking up road time. I'm trying to find the Mahogany Bay. You want to see it? Yeah. This is where I went with that cruise line. I'm not allowed to say their name of Disney. Yeah, I went here with Disney. Oh yeah, here we go. There you go. Yeah, pulling an image of Mahogany Bay. It's interesting that those cruise ships, like can I actually dock here because it looks, if you look at the water, it looks very shallow, but it obviously isn't, but it just doesn't look like that should be able to be there. Yeah. And, uh, yeah. See, doesn't it look too big for where it is? And then that whole beach right there is owned by carnival. So this whole thing, that's what I'm saying. This is a charter city itself in a certain way. No? I mean, it's private land, but they don't like run the law because that green pasture up there is like zip lining and four wheelers. Oh, and then that little waterway in the middle, they do some like water. Yeah, water stuff. Yeah. And then they own this whole beach with little restaurants and stuff and shopping stuff. And then like those buildings up there are the port. And that's like where the it was, it was fun, but I got there and I was like, I just feel like I'm in, I'm in a mall. Oh, you know what I mean? Yeah. I was like, I'm just at a mall on the beach. Yeah. I'm not actually in Honduras. Yeah, I thought the same thing. We went to, uh, we went to an all-inclusive and it looks like only one cruise line goes here. I'm pretty sure that that I already say on my set and I think carnival, they own it. Yeah. Yeah. That's okay. I'm not, what are they going to do? Fire me? Yes. They barely know why it exists. It's like right on the other side of the island from the place we're talking about press bearer. Okay. But, uh, yeah, it's actually I'm almost immediately the other side of the island. That's crazy. Um, so I was pretty close. Yeah. So, uh, press bears owned by Palantir or what? Um, so. Uh oh. Listener, there are dark things ahead in this episode. So in 2011, proceed with call. It was 11, uh, they, they, uh, passed this law. And soon after the spring court actually strikes it down because they say, yeah, they say it's unconstitutional because it grants a private entity too much power. Uh, right. Yeah. So, uh, right. But, you know, Sanchez was like, you know, I, I have this job. No, but like you have to do it. It's like gonna happen. Like I have all these letters. You guys understand? I have a Nobel prize. He does have a Nobel Prize. Romer has a Nobel Prize. Oh, I know a guy with a, I get to do it. He wrote a science fiction novel that it seems like he just believes the letters from the letter, the real letters. It's not. I didn't break it up. It's real. Guys, I every night just close my eyes started typing and what was there was there. Yeah. And so he goes and he like heavily campaigns for this, uh, across Congress, uh, the Honduran Congress. And basically they, they are able to figure out a different route for passing this instead of passing it as a law, they are like, while we could push it as a constitutional amendment and we can create zetties, uh, which are zones of economic development and employment. And it's the same concept. Okay. But it's just covered in some different legal ease and pushed forward as an amendment instead of a law. Uh, and so this time in 2013, he gets Congress to vote on it. And it passes kind of wild with 102 out of 128 votes, making it constitutional. And so the spring court now, because it's in the constitution, doesn't really have a way to overturn it. Sweet. And so this opened up a really exciting new opportunity in Honduras. Uh, and a guy by the name of four people of money. Yeah. Yeah. A guy by the name of Eric, um, Brimman, Eric Brimman. This is Eric Brimman. Yeah. Okay. This looks like you wanted to AI and said, give me an evil business guy. Uh, he is a vellis Venezuelan born wealth fund manager. And he nailed it. And he had a dream. And his dream is to create a competitive society where people can lift themselves out of poverty is what he says. And so he works with the which I mean, competitive society where people can lift themselves out of poverty. Squid games. You think about it. And you think about it. Squid games are like, it's a competitive environment that allows you to lift themselves out of poverty. Yeah. So Squid games is kind of a charity. Squid games is actually good. And like, we should make that an amendment to our constitution. So he works with, uh, like a local outreach organization in Honduras, uh, to go to a specific side of this island, crawfish rock. Oh, yeah. And so this is an ancestral village, uh, made up mostly of like black Caribbean people who've been there for five plus generations. Okay. Living in like, uh, mostly raised wood villages. Is it Caribbean? I think it's Caribbean. Is it Caribbean? Caribbean? I don't actually know which one's the correct pronouncement. I think if you're talking about the pirates, it's the Caribbean. But I think everything else is Caribbean. Yeah, I feel like that's right. I thought that's right. Uh, there are two accepted pronunciations. And what are they? Caribbean and Caribbean. So Caribbean? Yeah. And Caribbean. So both of ours are except for Alex. Now you're saying no. You know this whole thing is recording. No, I am. Look at Alex and I was like, no, you're right. He says the way you say it. I say Caribbean. Caribbean. Say it the way you say it. Caribbean. Okay, okay, okay, I thought you were going to gas it. You did shift it a little bit. I don't remember. I remember I did it at the first. You're saying Caribbean. Caribbean. Caribbean. Caribbean. Caribbean. Caribbean. Yeah, I guess it says both are correct. We'll let it go. I just, you know, okay. So crawfish rock. Uh, there's this community that's been here for for generations. Um, and what they do is they come into the community. And I don't think they ever explicitly said it, but they posture themselves like a charity. And so they say they're going to come into the community. They're going to help everybody in the community. They're going to build infrastructure. Okay, they're going to assist everybody in the community. So they go around the community, kind of making all these promises of being like, we're going to help you. And they bring contracts for a bit of a sign, uh, basically like accepting the aid that they're going to bring to the community. And what the contracts were was this is Arlean now, um, which is crazy. So they just tricked them. Yes, yes. And so there's a, there's actually a guardian article where they interviewed a bunch of locals there. And they said, yeah, we were heavily deceived by the way they, yeah, because they communicated as if they were going to help us all. We signed these documents, then we didn't realize we were signing away our, our community. Um, and so it gets swallowed up. Which I'm glad that those are the people who get to be in charge, though, you know, just ethical lighthouses, you know, on the shore of insanity that we find ourselves in. I'm so glad we have people who are pointing a light toward the right direction and stuff. And so they can I share what I thought, what I thought is unethical. What? Um, okay. So look at our handshakes. Unethical. A limp handshake. What a friggin' lib. Um, and so, uh, no. So I was looking up different side hustles, different stuff. I was trying to figure out some different, uh, you know, some money saving things, uh, just church, you know, just for the heck of it. Yeah. So secret shopper.com. Yeah. Let's you secret shopplaces. I was actually like, because someone told you you can get a free oil change on there. I was like, that's interesting. Let me see. And you can, you can go, you can get paid like 15 bucks to go to a, uh, a mechanic. Yeah. And not any, but like they have like, hey, this specific mechanic is hiring a secret shopper, um, $15 plus reimbursement up to 70 bucks. Yeah. So you can go and you can get the oil change. And then you just go back on a secret shopper and you report how the whole experience was, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty great. Then there's an online tab where you can do the same thing for online stores. And one of the things you can do for online stores is, uh, you can sign up for a subscription for two months. And you just audit how the sign up process was. So you're going to take screenshots and just show like, this is how easy it was to find the landing page on their website. Here's how easy it was to sign up, right? So you fill out the whole form. You take the screenshots. You sign up for the subscription because they're going to pay you $25 plus they're going to reimburse you for the cost of two months of subscription. What I realized was I'm pretty sure that the company you sign up for just paid $25 to get you to sign up with the hope that you're going to forget to cancel that subscription because you have to prove that it's going to renew. And I think that they are praying on people who are looking for side hustles online. And they're just like, yeah, you sign up for this. We'll pay you 25 bucks. You just got to prove that you signed up for it. And then we'll give you $25. And I think that they're banking on you forgetting and then getting that also the number of gambling sites that will let you secret shop and they'll reimburse up to $100 a gambling. They'll pay you 20 bucks to sign up for the gambling app that give you $100 back all this stuff. They are praying on people who are looking for online side hustles trying to get them onto their gambling app. That is such a good idea. That was such a smart business. And I just go like, damn, whichever is executive thought of that. His mom is so proud. I'm like happy that you did that. I was I don't know if my thought because we talked about this the other day. I don't know if my thought was more or less cynical than yours. But because I thought when you describe this to me that they were pumping their stock because they could then say they have more users than they actually have if they have a lot of people signing up as secret shop because they would just pay to I mean, the cost of acquisition is $25 in two, three months of subscription. Yeah. And it's like, all right, easy. Let's just $25,000. We can get 1,000 new users on here. Yeah. And I don't know which of those is less ethical. I'm not sure. Yeah. I mean, the gambling one is definitely I don't care about that. No, because like that's how I in that's how I made my money. I became rich when I bought that water supply of a small town in Indiana. And then I just jack the price up because people love water. I don't know why they're like water. It's crazy. How much I can charge for this. They will they will spend just about anything. Oh, what do you mean? What about they're just going to buy bottles of water? No, I outlawed that because you can't as I, hey, you're not going to waste all this plastic. Okay. When there's a good infrastructure of water that you can get from. Yeah. All right. And then I started collecting all the rainwater and I started finding people when they collected rainwater. And like, and this is just my little, my little model train tan that I get to run. Sort of lakes. Did you think about that? Oh, did I think about that? Yeah. I dand them off four miles out of town. So the none of it reaches. So like, there's not like you're going to go can get water. I can go down the river and get some free water. Not in my town. My town. I built a big electrified fence. So you can't even get out. I actually put a bunch of power lines and just exposed them and then like. Yeah. So if you touch it, you get electric. Yes. I feel like I don't touch that. That's shock water. That's shock water. And then I started bottling that and selling that in stores. Shock water. Like water. Oh, again, it tastes electrified. Refreshingly sharp. And so. Oh, water tastes like knives. Cause we're rich now. That's what rich people water tastes like. It does suck. When you've been out of a group of friends, you're at dinner. It's a fancy restaurant. And they always do the things still or sparkling. And then you have one phrase like sparkling. And you're just like, hey, quit pretending. Come on, man. Hey, like, come on. You don't like that. You grew up in Iowa. No one who grew up in Iowa chooses sparkling water, a root beer. Right. Order a root beer. Like we all know you drink. And we see you then. I wish this was root beer. I wish this was root beer. Oh, water. Yeah, I replaced the water supply in the town with those coke freestyle machines. So everyone can put flavors in their water. Duh. What do you want to do? Oh, watered gross. So how long is that? It doesn't seem like something you'd see in a charter city, honestly. So they got swindles, what I'm saying? They got swindled. They came in. They were like, Hey, yeah, that sucks. I feel like you're setting me up, man. And so in December, 29, 2017, they broke ground on Prospera. And they targeted. They targeted this place because it was like a diving destination. If you haven't heard of this area, the Caribbean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's where the giant blue hole is. The giant blue hole. Yeah. If you're listening, there's a picture on the screen right now of a big blue hole in the ocean. And did an asteroid hit there or something? I must have, right? For a giant crater. It's a sinkhole. It's a sinkhole. Oh, okay. Yeah. And so four hundred and seven feet. And such this is the spot where it just is just this big hole that just what's it look like inside? I don't know ocean. Well, look it up. It's pretty big, I guess. Pictures inside giant hole. What do you Google it over here? How do you find that? So what's really cool is it like it's a sinkhole into what was a cavern. And so there's a bunch of stalactites underwater stalactites in there. Oh, really? It's actually really cool. I'll show you. You're gonna do a bit. No, this is dead serious. I'm being serious. This is dead serious. I would joke about the Earth's big blue hole. Oh, wait, that is sick. Yeah, I'll actually pull up a diagram of it. So you can kind of get an idea of what we're working with here. What we're working with. So people dive. How deep can you dive? Pretty deep, I think. Yeah, but don't you have to come up slow? Yes, you do have to come up slow, and it does depend on the equipment you have. Obviously. Those are not to scale. It's just called the blue hole. Yeah, I mean, it's called the blue hole. I mean, there's all sorts of stuff they swim down there. Wow. So it's just this drop off in the middle of the ocean, and people dive into it. They put a bunch of sharks on the graph, so you know, they're in there. Hey, by the way, there's sharks in there. Oh, here's this is cool actually. This is because it's under this underwater hole. Yeah, there's a spot where you can dive down to the actual like sea level and then come up to the cliff, like the underwater cliff. I don't know what any of the what you just said means. You can go down to the sea level, the sea levels to top. So this is your on the ocean floor, and then there's the cliff right there. Oh, yeah. She's getting ready to jump. Yeah, so this is because you see. Oh, I see, I see. She's right on the rim of the big blue hole, which I want to be honest. The only reason I brought this up is because we went to one of these in New Mexico, because New Mexico has one too. Mexico has the big blue hole, which was just off what highway in New Mexico, which we've talked about this on road trips, like through Kansas, like seeing the world's largest gofer. Yeah, but New Mexico's got the big on a big side. This is a giant hole. It's really exactly what it says, and it's actually super cool. How deep is that one? Uh, this one is, uh, so the main portion of it is 80 feet. And then it's got like some, like little tunnels at the bottom of the veins that go to the big hole. Nothing compared to the big blue hole. But there's no context on the highway signs. Like the highway signs don't say like, they say giant. Just as big blue hole next exit. And so we were like, I mean, we got to go see this. We did not expect it to be filled full of water. Were people swimming in it when you're there? Yeah, also a lot of loose dogs there. Like a lot of stray dogs. A lot of loose dogs. Not someone's dog. They were little stray dogs just all over the big blue hole. Okay. So also another diving destination, but not being taken over by a corporation. Okay. So they chose this place as near the blue hole. Yeah. Because it's a good diving destination. And I'm assuming they've probably vacationed here and they're like, it's a beautiful place. And they were, all right. So is the idea behind what they're trying to do going to be like touristy? No. So the idea is, this is a business paradise. And so this is a place to go. What is that mean? No. I'll show you. So they what kind of customers, so they're like, customers are going to be here. They have giant golf courses. Yes. There's golf courses. And there's kind of like every type of resort you can imagine here. And so there you got this one. That was one person's house. Got this. That was not a resort. Was it? No, I think this is a clubhouse. Oh, okay. I see there's multiple companions. Okay. And then they've got like, but what's the idea? Like what business are you doing business? So the idea is you come here. And when you when you join Prospera, you sign an agreement. It's your club. Kind of, I guess. You sign an agreement. And it's the agreement of coexistence. And essentially what you do is there's going you agree to pay 1% tax on business revenue, 5% tax on wages, 2.5% sales tax, 1% land value tax of any land you own in Prospera. That's all there is in taxes. There's like $135 annual fee to live there. And then you have to commit to your regulations. The way the regulations work though is they have 31 nations you can choose from. And you can be under the regulations of that nation. So these are, this is the nation whose regulations I want to live under or you can submit your own. And everybody just gets to choose what are the regulations I want to live by? Can you change? I don't know if you can change once you commit. I would assume because they're really big on choice. Like you get to choose how you live your life here. Sure. But the other big thing that they did they have an E tier citizen. A class E citizen is what's interesting about this. And so you obviously there's the regular full resident where you I'm a full resident where you live there full time and they have a a class E citizen and a class E citizen. Well actually there's a middle tier. There's a limited resident which allows you to be there for like limited periods of time. And so you pick like okay I'll be here for two months out of the year three months out of the year you're a limited resident. And then there's the E class resident which you don't live there. You live somewhere else but you get to claim that you're a citizen of Prospera and you get to run a business. That's the bigger thing. You get to own a business that operates out of Prospera. So that's your governing body. My cleaning company is based in Prospera Honduras. Let us service you in Glendale, California. And yeah, make all checks payable to Prospera Inc. And so what they did is they made Bitcoin, the legal tender. So they've got this nice cool little. Okay. And they because of the lacks regularly. Who's the on the phone with? I hate whenever you these business rosers like I'll take a picture of me on the phone. Yeah, I'm doing first of all get air pods. You lose her. Oh, I'll tell you what? Here's something toxic with a masculine. Never am I putting a phone up to my face. Never, never. Speaker phone or air pod. Yeah, yeah, this is that holding a phone up on. I can't think of anything more beta than that. This is the dumbest thing. I need two hands in case I get attacked. So we have to do a podcast. Air pods in like this out time. Dude, I got to have both hands ready. What if what if some jump tries to hit on my gal? All right, they don't say gal. My lady, my girl, my girl, yes, what they say. That's how foreign that kind of like we're just us. What if what if some kind of what if some guy say girl, I think they're even more derivative than that? It's on that. I think you're closer to that. Whoa, we should make a manosphere podcast for sure. But for real though, I the putting the talk on the phone. It's like, Hey, my dirty hands are touching this phone all day. I don't watch my hands every time I touch my phone. I don't know what's on my phone. I'm gonna put that thing into my face. Yikes. Yikes. So you think I'm kind of serious a little bit. Is that weird? I mean, it is a little beta though to care what touches your face. I don't think so. I think you're wrong about that one. So it is a little beta. And your voice went up when you said it too. It is a little beta. You care about what touches your face. I don't care what touches my face. Hey, October 22nd, we're doing Tillin Live as part of the Fountain City Comedy Festival here in Kansas City. You go to tillin.com slash live for more information. You get passes. There's going to be more than just us. Oh, yeah. That's like legitimately not an advertisement right now. The festival's pretty sick. Like, there's a really great lineup. A lot of really good comics. This thing's been growing a lot the past couple of years. So really cool to be the part of it. And so hopefully we'll see you there. We're good. Anything can touch my face because I'm confident in it. I think we should try to make a minus your podcast that's like anti-mit. Like, we got to figure out a way to get progressive values to people in a way that sounds like weird jerks digestible for those type of people. It's like, it's like, oh, yeah, it is the thing of like, oh, yeah, you're threatened by a woman. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, a strong, competent woman is threatening to you. Do you remember the triple X church? What? It's the same concept as the triple X church was a big thing in like the late 2000s, really 2010s. Was it this guy that was WWE baptizing people? No, no, it's exactly what it sounds like. But the concept was, it was like a Christian organization that was going into triple X community. So they would go to like adult conferences, adult film conferences and they'd set up booths and they would like meet people there and like try to evangelize like there. Yeah. But they did a lot of stuff that was like, no, honey, I have a ministry trip this weekend. I have to go to a conference. They were like, are they blindfolded? They were like two engaged in the culture. They like did all these things to be like attractional and we're like, we're one of you is like what they did a lot of that stuff, but it was like, they went far enough where it's like, I don't think you're like, help it. I don't think what you're trying to do, you're allowed to do the things you're doing. You know what I'm saying? No. I realized now that in this podcast, I can't explicitly say what I'm talking about, but there was a few things that they did as like promotional stunts that was like, oh, you shouldn't have done that. I think probably way earlier than those promotional stunts are where it should. They shouldn't have had a friend who was like, that's stupid. And then made fun of them and Thanksgiving. That's what I'm saying. Go to your family Thanksgiving. You'll find out what ideas you have that are bad and starting a triple X church is one of them. Anyways, so the idea of this community is that you get to basically choose the laws you provide. And so what has happened is there's about 200 full-time residents living there right now. A lot. A little over 500 companies based out of there. How many E residents? I'm most of those company owners. Okay. And so the things that happen there are a little interesting. Obviously, like, everything is Bitcoin. So like, anywhere where you purchase something, you have to have like, is there still a local population that like is working there? Like, are the workers? So what is interesting is they promise that the local population there was going to be a lot of work for them. And it's kind of a weird tug and pull because like all the construction was local. And a lot of the service jobs are local. And they do and they do pay the people well. And so most people who work for or in Prospera, they make double what they could make anywhere else. And so like they are paid well. But there's also this like there's a weird relationship with the local community, I should say. Well, yeah, they got swindled. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So that's part of it. Yeah. But the things that happen there because this lack of regulation are very strange. One of the big examples that you hear, there is a company that is developing taser knives. And so they do taser knife fights. Taser knives. They're knives that shock you. They're the blade as a taser. Cool. And so they do taser knife fights, which seems not safe. Yeah, I guess I'm not drawing the direct like they make them. Okay. So they do knife, like, no, I don't think that I don't think that's so they do. Well, it's like it's like we've got these here. We've got the community spaces where no one's going to stop us. You want to do a taser knife fight? What's the police like? Do they have police? So they have a private police. But the police is very interesting. They're really just kind of they're more keeping the peace. And so it's like protecting people from like actual physical danger. But when it comes to like the law, like they're not out there enforcing laws. Right. Cause they're like, yeah. So unless you're like, please. Okay. Which which law did you use law? Okay, great. Let me have got to flip through the book and understand what's law. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used against you in the court of law. You're the right to an attorney. You can not afford one. One will be appointed to you. See how to stop you right there. I changed my mind. Do you see how easy it is to memorize it? There's nothing on my hand. You think I wrote it down? Memorize the Miranda rights. Quit pulling out a little note card. That's some beta stuff. Nothing's more beta than arresting someone and handcuffing them and then happen to be like pull out your little index card. Yeah. Yeah. Unless you pull it out from behind their ear, that's an alpha move. That is pretty circles back around. Hey, you got your Miranda rights by a year. Are these your Miranda? Nothing is more masculine or alpha than a good magician. Have you seen videos? Have you seen videos of like magicians that like it is a lot of confidence. It is a lot of confidence. Where it's like and then it's like dude. Yeah. You go up to the group of hot girls with the party. Yeah. Pull off a cool card trick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, you know, but then you have a limp handshake. And then you go, thank you for allowing me to come with it. And they're like, they leave and they're like, okay, first of all, how do they do that? First of all, second of all, he doesn't even care if we think he's strong. He's so masculine. So hot. Him not caring. That was pretty beta. Thanks. Alpha's don't cough. Sorry. They don't sneeze. They don't itch. I was telling him that on the way. I saw a podcast when I was in my weird face. Yeah. I don't know what that means either, but go ahead. I went through a phase where we were kind of like one of these people. We. You were there too. I was present. I was shaking. You were in it. You were in it just as much. I was not in it just as much. If you're going to tell me that you legit listening to podcast and said this. Yeah. Well, I did because I told you all the way. That's where you got the idea to say what you just said. What are you talking about? This podcast. There was this. I don't remember her name as CEO of some company. And she's like, she's like successful people. They suffer. They don't have to sneeze. They hold it. I have to cough. They hold it. Don't attribute that to some woman. If they're face issues, they don't scratch it. Yeah. Because successful people suffer. It's such a crazy concept. That is crazy. And you listen to that on ironically. Yes. Yeah. But I do remember at the time, even when I was in that world, I was like, look where it got you. It didn't. It did. Anyways. So they. And then they do a lot of like the kind of stuff you would expect. And so there is experimental biohacking and non-FTA approved gene therapies and like weird live algae longevity drink companies. It's like all the weird stuff you would think. And then obviously like a ton of crypto companies, ton of gambling companies, like the kind of companies, it would just think of place like this. Just faster. Is it mostly like online stuff? No, it's both. There's a lot of there's a lot of weird scientists. Because they're working in things that like no other nation is going to let them do it. And more importantly, you're going to let them test on humans. Because they can then find people in prosperity and be like, hey, you want to test my cool experimental drug. And people are like, yeah. Because these people are like, uh, do you see that video? Was this real? Was there? Did you see the video of like the billionaire guy who was like, yeah, I did my root canal with no, uh, with no. Oh, like no, like anesthesia. Yeah, anesthesia. What's the numbing? What's the stuff called anesthetic? Yeah. He's like, I did a root canal with no anesthetic. Why? Just to see if you can just a freaking feel pain. Feel something. Just feel something. I don't know. I haven't felt something in years. That's kind of what it seemed like. That is insane. Oh, you guys are, you guys have fully lost it. That is crazy. Um, one of our own, one of our guys, he went, uh, oh, yeah, we love this weird pale guy. I knew that he would be there too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You called him. He looks so weird. He blends in with the sunlight stairs. Uh, if you're not like watching, we're talking about, uh, the wet gecko. Brian Johnson. Brian Johnson. Yeah. I have a poster of him in my room. That's weird. The, uh, the like body or like the longevity guy we did an episode about him. But yeah, he did one of his treatments here. Um, because obviously it was the only place it was legal. And he does, does he do steroids? Probably. I don't know. I don't think so. I mean, he's not, he's not yoked enough. He's not yoked enough to judge to be like, oh, he does steroids. Yeah. Huh. I don't know. He's doing a lot though. So I want to be surprised. His results don't so don't line up. Oh, hold on, go back, go back, go back, go back. I want to point something out. This is Prospera. They do have a fire extinguisher on the wall. So fire code still exists in Prospera. That's interesting. That's I'm not even joking. That's legitimately an interesting little nugget. Is it fire code though? Or did they just say, have we need fire extinguishers? I don't know. Because that is the kind of stuff that like you don't, you think like, oh, you know, there's so much red tape and stopping businesses, but you also don't think through the number of safety regulations that exist because of our government. Like when we see earthquakes in other countries, yeah, and things completely fall apart because there's no regulation on the building the way that there is here. Like that is an example of our infrastructure and our laws working correctly. Yep. Yep. Exactly. And like when you see fire extinguishers and there's a fire safety drill and a, here's what happens if there's a fire. That's good infrastructure. That's good laws. That's good regulations. That literally is the difference between like what we would call first world and third world countries is those regulations that allow you. I mean, there's a lot of other differences, but one of them is those regulations that allow or force companies to not be so regressive and just build something that's dangerous. Yes. Because you see those, you see those towers where they're like sideways and like barely held up like, yeah. And the regulations are what makes that required and not optional. Right. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So keep going. I feel like you are allowed to get to them. We're kind of long on this. So in late 2021, just so tired of hearing you know, made up male voice. In late 21, uh, left wing candidate by the name of Zayamara Castro. Yeah. This is her. She wins the presidency by a landslide. And her whole campaign was I'm a down prosper. Yeah. She's like, she's like, we don't want them here because this whole time, like once prosperous started building and people started seeing what they were doing, they're like, oh, this is basically like colonialism to point out. Yeah. Because this is you came in, you tricked us. Yeah. And now you're taking our land and now the people who get to benefit are us. Yeah. We're not benefiting. Yeah. There's a small population and you like some walls and made it so that this is just your little private thing. Yeah. And they have these, they have the ability to just continue buying land. And so they're buying up more land and soaking it in to prosper to make it a bigger community. Right. And what they are talking about. And like their marketing is they want this to be, uh, they want to be the entire island. Well, they want it to be the Caribbean Hong Kong. They're like, if you think of what Hong Kong is today, in 10 years, we want this to be what this is just full of high rises and free enterprise and all this stuff is the vision that they want. And so obviously to do that, bro, it's not a big island. And so like, they're going to have to take over the whole thing to achieve the dream that they're talking about. Right. And so, uh, there becomes this big political backlash. She wins the presidency in a landslide. And in April 2022, so very early in her presidency, uh, Congress votes unanimously, uh, to repeal the ZD laws. Um, and so in 2024, the Supreme Court declares that the ZDs are unconstitutional and a retroactive effect. And so they repeal law, they say they, they cannot operate the prosperity as anymore. And the community, uh, so like, so this is possible, by the way, the celebration. Oh crap. Ah, I know what that look means. Here's the thing, man. Money's going to win. Yeah. So no, just finish the story here. Let's pretend this is the end. Let's pretend that's how it ended. Oh, no. So they, uh, they had, um, they had put some clauses in their contracts with Honduras that, uh, that they then put into effect there. So there was a couple. One of them was a claw that, uh, there's a 10-year sunset clause to any ZD law. And so any, uh, change in Honduran government, they had to give Prospera 10 years to sunset the law, um, before they could just repeal it. And so even though they repealed it, there's now a 10-year timeline before it's gonna actually go away is what this law or what this, uh, lie in the contract stated. Second, um, there was, uh, bilateral and that is also, man, no, I can't do it. I'm not gonna crash out. Ah, that's I'm gonna have to. So they, that's this kind of stuff that's like, okay, well, we'll just, just vote different. And you're like, you don't understand that when the people who were in charge made those decisions and did those things, they intentionally made it so that it stuck in a way that even after they're gone, you can't undo their work. Yeah. Yeah. It's impossible because that 10-year sunset clause is going to last through a couple terms. And so new people will be empowered. That will be friendly to them. They will, they will lobby to get the right people in elected. That will then be friendly to them. So in 10 years, they can stay. But it doesn't even matter because they went immediately after this, this, this contract was signed with Honduras to allow Prospera. Uh, they went and they made investment treaties with Kuwait and the United States, um, through trade agreements. And these agreements are 50-year agreements. And so because of that, this is an agreement between Honduras, Prospera, Kuwait and the United States that are 50-year time spam. And repealing this is repealing an agreement it has made internationally with two large powers. Right. That Honduras is beholden to. And even bigger than that. They then went through the ICSID, which is the international center for settlement of investment disputes, which is a World Bank organization. Okay. Honduras being a member of the World Bank is, again, beholden to this organization. And essentially what this does is for international organizations to be able to have a court of law where they can sell disputes in is what this exists for. And so through this, they are able, because a lot, uh, according to the World Bank is a little different than a lot of other laws. It allows you in a dispute like this to sue for not only the loss, uh, that is a part of the actual suit itself, but potential losses. Yeah. Potential profits. Laws, so they went and they sued the Republic of Honduras for 10.7 billion which is two thirds of the entire annual budget of Honduras. And so, uh, by the end of 2024, uh, the Hondurian government, uh, they settle the lawsuit and they peel back on the change and they allow press bearer to stay, uh, because they just got kind of bullied by these ultra-witch people who had the money. Uh, speaking of ultra-witch people, this was, uh, pushed forward the, the, or I don't know if I should say organization, but, uh, one of the large, um, Peter Teal campaigners who who lay a lot of the groundwork in Honduras who did a lot of campaign before it, uh, Roger Stone. Oh, even better. The most cartoon villain looking guy. You got a picture of him? I don't have the picture of Roger Stone. If you don't know who Roger Stone is, he is, I think a bad guy in the powder puff girls. He does, he does look like a bad guy. Go watch a documentary about Roger Stone and then just think about how insane it is that any politician, yeah, yeah, I can't crash out about that. Holy cow. I mean, oh, that I'll get you a picture of Roger. This guy is, go watch his deposition. Oh my gosh, man, he's like where he's like gritting his teeth like he just, he does oozes evil all the time. He oozes evil. He's, he's in fact gritting his teeth on this picture. Look at, that's what dude. Look at him. Look at him. His teeth are sharpened. What's he sharpening his teeth on? Oh, godly, dude. Him and that fat guy that got in trouble this year. You know, I'm talking about the cartoon fat guy that got in trouble this year. What are you talking about? The, what's he do for it? You know, the, the, well, I'll find him later. He looks like a villain as well. The, it's so crazy that we are being ruled by Batman villains. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I guess, at least Brian Johnson looks like, you know, if this is pulling up, pull up, pull up Roger Stone real quick. This is your dad's Batman villain. Pull up, Brian Johnson. This is millennial Batman villain. Do you see the difference? At least he's not. Yeah. Like your T.O. Brian Johnson, this whole thing like Zuckerberg. Yeah. Like they at least have been doing jujitsu and stuff. All right. They're trying to pull up Roger Stone. This guy's opening car doors backwards and kicking puppies out. This guy is chasing down Dalmatians. You understand? Like it's a different kind of evil bad guy that we're fighting. It's true. It's true. Yeah. Um, anyway, got a little bird nose. I hate him. Get him out of here. Oh my gosh. No, but the, the investors in Prospera, it's probably good to go through. It's a good group. There's Tim Draper, who was a venture capitalist who invested in Tesla and SpaceX. Of course. Brian Armstrong, CEO of Coinbase. Mark Andreessen. Andreessen. And then we got a couple good ones here. Sam Altman and Peter Teele. Yeah. So it's a good group of people invested in this. I think Peter Teele hisses at servers and restaurants is what that joke was. I think I made that joke in a couple episodes ago. So just don't think that joke was not that he hisses in people's restaurants. The joke was he's in the bushes. He's in the bushes rustling around. And you're like, wait, are we defense contractors? Then he's like, you know, is that Peter Teele? But I think he probably does hiss it. No, he doesn't have service in restaurants. He has freaking his people go get it. Go, they probably buy a restaurant. He goes in, eats there, then they close it. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So private equity does. They go, all right. Um, but here's the crazy thing. Like so Prospera, their goal is to build this into a Hong Kong line community. So they're going to try and take over that whole island is definitely what's going to happen. They pull back up pull back the one section of the island they can't take. You're going to have to prime ahogany bay from my cold dead carnival hands. Do you understand? Do you understand? I can't wait to kick Roderstone into the carnival smoke stack, right? But there is a pretty big movement among this community of people to do a lot of these. And there's a growing movement. Yeah. In the United States, they want to do in National Parkland. That's what the goal is with the National Parkland is to build these communities, which is scary. So another encouraging episode of things I learned last night. Oh, godly, dude. I feel like my eyes about to pop out. Yeah, it is. That Celsius is hitting me wrong right now. There's hitting me in the wrong way. That's hitting me wrong right now. Oh, it's hitting me sideways. Oh, but yeah, so Sanchez, they gave Sanchez this award. Well, now let me read the let me read the text. I really wasn't reading the text earlier. So Liberty Acceleration Award, that sucks. For architect legal foundations for new models of governance and economic freedom. And so that guy in the middle is this guy. Yeah, they gave him an award. Dude, for coming up with how to make this. And look at the left. Look at the sign on the left. I don't know if you can read what that says. Cripto cities. Yeah, yeah, pretty rough. Pretty rough. Ah, Sam Beckman Fried was a big proponent of this. This place sucks. So yeah, pretty cool. Well, how do we get out of it? That's terrible. Yeah, I don't know. He really looks so bad. And you know what's crazy is that he probably Googles himself. He might see this. Roger Stone, if you see this, crawl back into your cave. Go back into your little old you came out of. Go back to where you came. Yeah. There's your shall remain. All right, till you are complete a game. That's how he says a game. That was incantation to keep you away from us. We need to we need to get those like that. Whatever that smoke stuff is. Are you doing? Are you doing a you were doing a ball of cauldron? I'm doing a witch's blow. I'm sorry about a guy. What's that called sage? Yeah, yeah, we just sage. Well, the same thing. There we go. Now tell me about that. Okay. Hey, if you like this episode, and you want kind of similar, this is what Walt Disney was trying to do with Epcot. And we did a whole episode about it. And so you can find out what Walt's crazy dream was. And then also how his brother was the one to be like, Hey, yeah, thanksgiving. His brother was like, you're stupid. So don't do this. And then his brother killed him. And then his brother killed him. Anyway, his brother kicked him into the giant blue hole. Okay. So we also have a Patreon. And we're not going to pitch that right now, because this episode was bad, right? You don't want more of this. But if you do, we'll see you over on Patreon. And as always, we'll see you next week because we like that you're here and we like that we do this. So next week's episode is way more encouraging. What's it about, Tim? Alright, I'll find out with you guys.