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00:00 Hey man, I can do the episode with your hair looking like that. I was wondering the whole time we're setting up was like surely he's going to fix his hair. It's fine. This is fine. This is you look like now. Yeah, okay, it's good. All right, man, ever happy to be here by the way. You know, I don't think you are all right. What's up? Leave it. What you got? Nobody else does. What topics do you have today? uh Have you ever heard of bricks and mini figs bricks and mini figs? Yeah, 00:29 No. 00:33 got it, we got it, we Yeah, yeah, what do you do for your work? Well, I'm a YouTuber. What does that look like? I lure young girls into the woods. 00:46 Yeah, I was back when I was into scaring third graders. 00:54 Things I learned last night. 01:03 uh So, well, I'll tell you what bricks and many things is actually to start the story. is this this story. I'll tell you this is one of the most okay. What I can say for sure. This is definitely going to be in law textbooks for years to come. uh And this is one of the most convoluted bricks and many messy just disasters of 01:31 minifigs, a bunch of people making bad choices over and over and over again. Okay. And there's a lot to this, which is also the story of this podcast. We keep showing up and then we keep making bad decisions over and over and over again. What I'll tell you for sure is this is this it's June 16th. This is developing story. By the time this comes out, some other stuff is for sure happened. Yeah. And 01:59 in the length of this podcast, we're definitely not going to able to cover anything. I mean, does this episode come out? I don't know. A few weeks. I honestly don't know. Should I? Should I find out? Should we pause for a second and I find out? Okay, let's leave all this in. I'm going to pause for a second. I'm going to find out. Oh wait. Yeah. Okay. I'm fighting out. Hold on. You're in a mood. I'm not in a You broke your wife. I'm in a mood. 02:31 So yeah, so July 7th. Yeah. So for sure, some stuff has happened. Yeah. And also what's happening in July is that I'm in Goshen, Goshen, gosh darn Indiana. Yeah. Uh, July 24th and fifth. That's why I was asking about the release date. Oh, there you go. I do stuff outside of this. What do do? Uh, appliance repair and I'll be in Goshen, Goshen. I'll be in Goshen. I think it's Goshen. I'll be in Goshen, Indiana, fixing some refrigerators on July 24th and 25th. uh 03:01 he does like faith healing events, but it's for a small. I lay my like break it to and you watch the temperature go down. You know, it's pretty wild. He healed my microwave. He healed my microwave, but what I'm saying is this is like yeah, there's a lot to the story. Okay, if you know this story coming in, I'm definitely not going to be able to cover everything. Okay, I'm to say, but bricks and mini figs is a Lego like resale. 03:31 chain got it. Okay, they're all across sense. They're all across the country. What is a what is a mini fig mini fricks make sense? Yeah, many figures are like guys, the Lego guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're off brand like, but they sell Legos. They sell Legos and so they there's a lawsuit where Legos like you can't do this. Well, they are separate, completely separate from Lego. They just do Lego resale, right? They don't like do anything that uses the brand of Lego. 04:01 And so like they're getting away with it. They have for a couple of years been working to become an authorized retailer of Lego. Okay. That has not happened yet. Right. Right now they're just a resale like so they can't sell new Lego thing. Yes. Yes. But it's just resell old stuff. And so it's kind of like game stop. Yeah. You come in, you trade in your old Legos to sure new old Legos. Oh, no, I love this episode right now. Oh, we got a couple of Patreon supporters who are like 04:29 I actually learned it from Noah. No, did you? Okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. Shout out to you, Noah. And I, and I will say Noah, when I first looked into this, I definitely did say I hated this story and I wasn't going to cover it, but the more I got into it, was like, Oh, I need to cover this story. So good recommendation. Yeah. Good job, Noah. So the story starts with this guy by the name of Brian Mansell. And so Brian, his dad, not him, his dad has a massive Lego star Wars collection. 04:58 valued somewhere in the ballpark of $200,000 and it's all these rare Lego Star Wars like old discontinued. Are they put together? They're in the boxes. Okay. And so these are boxed like collector items like treated. Which is the whole point of Lego is to not open them and not put them together. There's so much more fun when they're in the box. So much more fun when you just look at it. He took it. So his dad started collecting the set. You know that I know like a Lego master. 05:28 Really? Yeah, like work for legoland. Yep, really? Yeah, yeah, he he won a art competition for late and yeah, it was like a sculpture competition with legos and then he worked at the Kansas City one and it was going to go on that show. Is the show called Lego Masters? ah But yeah, so he's I mean he's he built like the fully functioning r two d two down at the at legoland, Kansas City and then uh Disney suit them and made them pulled off a floor. 05:58 because it's like a fully functioning like with the with the remote control and everything and is not lego because disney owns the star wars ip that's crazy and then they were like sued him for that they didn't sue him oh they sued the they told legoland send him a cease and desist and they were like hey that you can't has that on display because it's not an official lego licensed ip that's crazy because like he just made it made it he just made it that's insane he's really going have you been to legoland yeah i've been well i was a kid 06:28 and I was like, is that what ours was called? Is it a Lego land? Kansas City does have a Lego land, but it's not. It's not Lego land like San Diego. That's where I, well, yeah, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it is like, can't say it smells like wet hot dogs like because they have a concession stand and they're selling 06:45 they're selling. They're selling. thought you went on. mean dry hot dog. You know all they got is wet on. I don't know what dog or try on. We yell over me Tim. It ruins the pod. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, 07:07 so you know what I'm talking about. What if we did the whole podcast in PR style? You know what I'm talking about when I say no, but you don't talk about where people like they put them on the rollers or they just boil those dogs and the whole place smells like damp dogs. Yeah, that's right and like that nacho cheese bag. Yeah, yeah, you know 07:30 and they haven't figured out how to ventilate the Lego land, Kansas City location so that it doesn't like literally I was walking around like this stuff's really cool, but also like I'm going to throw up. It smells so bad yikes yikes just do chips. Yeah, that's that's you don't got to have hot dogs have what hot dogs and bag nacho cheese. You don't have to do it. Yeah, just sell chips. That's rough. 07:57 Yeah, so no, I haven't been to that one. I've been to the one in San Diego. Okay, one in San Diego. They have a driving school and you get a license. Yeah, and I went when I was probably like seven or eight. My parents took me like it was a family vacation and then you drove back because they you got your license. Now, buddy, we got to the airport and they asked like security right from my parents ID and then I handed him my Lego and I do. This is nice and they arrest and then they broke you on the ground and then they 08:25 they held you in a in a room for seven hours. Your parents, by the way, got on the flight still crazy because they we can't miss the flight. didn't care. Yeah, they'll ship them back with their like, oh, don't question them. If it and your dad was like, honestly, I want to know if he is involved with some terrorism. Brian's dad has this really valuable collection. Brian's dad has this really valuable collection. Yes, and Brian's dad's intention for the collection from the start. Okay, was I mean, I shouldn't say his intention from the start. 08:54 His intention from the start was he loved him and he wanted to collect them. But his long-term dream was one day I will sell this collection and it's going to pay for my grandkids college. was his. Yeah. And so he's like, he's like, I'm going to be collecting is going to increase in value and no college. Well, sadly his dad gets cancer and they're they need the money. And so they decide let's go sell the collection and try to make some money. So Brian Mansell, this guy, he takes that collection. 09:24 to his local uh Brickson Mini Fig store, which is in Salem, Oregon, or I think it's like right outside Salem, Oregon, a town right outside. OK. And he makes a consignment deal with them. So he doesn't actually sell it to them. If you don't know what consignment is, the store basically just agrees to hold it on stock. And they're going to take a commission of every sale and then pay Brian when they sell it instead of buying out the whole collection. When they originally uh make the consignment deal, 09:54 Bricks and Minifigs, the owners of that franchise, it's a franchise company, not a corporate owned company. They go and they take pictures of the collection at his house and they post about it, they make a huge deal about it, how this is a $200,000 collection. And then they enter into this consignment deal. Meanwhile, the owners of this, let me get their names right, the owners of this franchise, their names are Crystal, 10:22 Law and Benjamin Gorman, they are partners and they're planning on moving out of the country and they own this franchise. And so they make this deal, they have it for about a year, everything under consignment. And then they call corporate and they say, Hey, we want to go ahead and sell our franchise. We're moving. Yeah. And so they started the process. They're going through all the paperwork and then one night in the middle of the night, I should say the middle of the night, right before close, somebody shows up at the store. 10:52 with someone. Now somebody to rob them freaking somebody shows up the store with somebody from corporate and they're like, hey, we are taking over this location. This is no longer your location. You need to hand over all your documents and you need to vacate the property or the property. If you don't, you will be immediately. Yeah, you will be trespassed. How 11:18 should we just do this to some people? Should we put on like a suit and tie and just walk into places and go hey, excuse me? Well, here's the thing. This really was a corporate represent yeah. Yeah, I understand. I was saying we're gonna do the I understand. You're saying, I'm saying should we just show up places and go like hi, just take over from corporate. You don't know that hey, I'm from I'm from bricks and many things corporate my badge and and it's 11:47 It's like what's that guy's name Jimmy? I've sent you a stuff. He shows a lot of construction sets. You love Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy Fallon videos all the time. People are like what who's watching this and I show anymore. It's Tim. He's watching the videos. They're not clips. They're videos of my TV that I feel when I said and you can hear me breathe. I'm like 12:10 and you can't hear the TV. All you hear is my breathe laughing because I'm wearing airpods and like you're also sending me the commercials because you're watching on live TV. Yeah, yeah, that's you're like you gotta eat home in this. I saw wait to see this joke. This is going back after this. I went to I wound it too far back. Okay, 12:40 so Jimmy somebody uh no Jimmy. Yeah, what's his name, but he shows up at construction sites and he does that. Oh yeah, just acts like he's a change. Yeah, he's like, can you this change to this guy big fan and like just messes with just hands of the hey, would you pass it over to exactly yeah, make sure Brian gets this yeah and he's like he's like he's like hey, what did Todd say? Did Todd say anything about that lunch I sent over today? Did you get any of that and then be lunch? Who's taught? It's hilarious and it works. 13:08 every single time. I love it. That's what I'm saying dude. It's like it's like the doctor in a lab coat thing. You just believe it like create yourself as a position authority. Yeah. If you seem confident, people believe you hey, I were from corporate. We actually need you to empty all the cash out of the register and put it on this gift card and then give me the code for the gift card. So that would help me a lot. It's just typical corporate activity, typical card, typical corporate stuff. 13:35 you know, big up. Hey, I don't. If you had a college degree, you'd get it well and your question. That is why I drive why I drive a two thousand and fourteen BMW. All right, which is why I drive a two thousand three Toyota Sequoia. Speaking of a toy two thousand three Toyota Sequoia 14:00 How about this one on Facebook marketplace? I'll screenshot it right now. It's three. It's three thousand two hundred and fifty. Hold on. This is actually a pretty good deal. One hundred and sixty nine thousand miles home. I'm home. But then the price down here says forty nine fifty OBO, so it's got a hundred and sixty thousand sixty nine thousand miles, which I don't know if you about Toyota's pretty pretty young. That's basically like three thousand miles. That's basically like three thousand miles. Two thousand three. You know, you know, 14:28 and then he even puts in your Toyota Sequoias are known for lasting three to four hundred thousand miles with proper maintenance, ready to drive home today now, and this is sold by Stan Tramp. So their cover photo is a BMW. I'm a screenshot that and their profile picture is ah is the 14:52 the thing from it. I think I don't know that is what that is kind of creepy. That is a little creepy. So if you're interested in that, it's in Glendale, California, make sure you pick up at a police station. Do one of those police station face. I mean it looks for this one. I like the color. What's the wear and tear on the inside? Let's see some interior shots. Honestly, the interior is pretty good for a two thousand three. This is a twenty three year old vehicle. There you go. You know, interior looks pretty good. I I would I would do it. I might do it 15:23 so you can't buy this. You know what? Sorry, this week sponsors canceled. I just bought a Toyota Sequoia, you know, use code till it. You're always trying to make that joke when I these promos and you every time you're like joke, you just go till you it's like we're doing it and then you're trying to snap into my frame. I didn't always over like you still telling by the way, make sure to use code till it wasn't even I think it's like, hey but every single time you like that 15:52 use code till when you check out because like that's the that's the funny part of the the funny part of that is not that we're reading a Facebook marketplace. It's that you're using code till and if you don't use code till and then it's not funny. That's my view. 16:12 So so they come and they say hey, we're from corporate. We're taking over your store and what they allege is that she owes a button. Sirens went off and there's like there's a code Dylan code. You know, funny or joke than what he was a mini figures run in live size mini figures and they kill her. They take their hands. They say hey, they allege that she has a bunch of unpaid 16:42 franchise fees and also rent because this is late at night. We're coming in crystals there crystals there. Yeah, she's okay and they go hey you have unpaid franchising unpaid franchise fees and unpaid rent because they are the owner of the property. So the way they the way that this franchise does right right right right at least from the proper yeah the franchise, which is how we should do a whole episode of how McDonald's and subway really are killing their franchisees. It's truly remarkable uh so 17:12 They, they, it's just business. They basic supply and demand business. uh So the people there that night were someone from corporate, someone from corporate uh and the new franchise owner. They went and they found somebody else to buy the franchise in this behind her back in this whole time in Oregon. Yeah. And they did a hostile takeover so she doesn't get to sell it. They're seizing the franchise back from her. 17:34 and so this is actually security camera footage from that night. This is one of the new orders. There's two guys that are two partners that are coming in as new owners. Yeah, there's a guy by the name of brain. We ain't gonna wear. We don't even got to wear suits. Yeah, you guys is wearing an underarm or quarter zip and a bag from his high school football practice. Yeah, where he plays running back 17:55 teams lose it that year. What are we doing that need a 52 year old man? Remember back in the day, Brandon Best? He was so good. You know, that's like the coaches are sitting around like, man, if we could just have a Brandon Best in our team. And it's like, what are the assistants? Would you buy this? Check the rule book. 18:18 you know, I actually ran this rule book through chat, she and it said that there's nothing in here. have a fifteen year old running back says that they can be any age. They just have to be under six foot and guess what he's five eleven and three quarters. He's very tall right at the cut off. So okay, so brand best. Yeah, he's not wearing a suit. 18:42 he comes in. This is security camera footage. This is security camera. I'll honest. Crystal's got purple hair. She doesn't seem like she's running a tight business, but not at all. It's not a tight ship being run over here, you know, and you're like, Jaren, that's a generalization of people with purple hair. Yep, it's pretty accurate. uh So they go around the store and they take pictures of everything in the store, the whole inventory that night, and she is trying to print out a bunch of receipts from the POS. 19:09 okay, and they're like the hey, you don't need you. You can't do that. You need to leave and she's like no, I need you don't understand. I have to get receipts because I have a guy who has a collection here under consignment right and he has unpaid invoices because she she didn't pay him basically monthly and so she says I owe him a lot of money for four sets. We've sold. I need to get that and Brandon tells her he says well, that's a business thing. We're to solve. We're taking over your business and so anything that the business will handle that is what he's saying. Yeah, this is that's our problem now sure as the new business. 19:39 And so basically they kick her out and she leaves and they take over the company. So she was not paying. 19:48 um corporate alleges she was a pink corporate. Brandon has been paid for some of this. He says, but two people in Brandon or I shouldn't say Brian, Brian, Brian, who I was going to say who Brian owns the collection. Yeah, he's been at Brandon. That's Brandon. Yes, yeah, and so he says that Crystal had paid him for some of for some items that they've sold to out that sure, but there's definitely the majority of that collection is still in that store right and in fact they went through later. They went through the security camera footage from that night 20:18 And you can see a lot of it in the inventory on that store throughout the store. And you know it's his because he put yellow stickers on all of his collection when he brought it in. So he knows what's it's like clearly identifiable, what's his and not somebody else's that's there. so Brian Mansell tries to get in contact with new ownership after this. This goes over just to kind of make sure everything's still good. Isn't really getting like much feedback in contact with them. 20:47 Okay, and then she goes into the store and wasn't the store. He runs into the other owner. This is a guy by the name of I believe it's Josh. Yeah, Josh Johnson. This is Josh Johnson. Okay, and this is he when this is from police camera footage. So this is how I know the story gets good because I know what an axon body camera is and so Josh Johnson is in the store. I know that body cam is 21:17 you know, Josh Johnson's the other guy, the other partner in the I just saw Alex like just looking at his screen really taking in this guy and this is oh shoot. This is three months ago. Yeah, okay, recent yeah he's dressed like a twenty fourteen youth pastor yeah, which is dressed as a nineteen fifties lumberjack. 21:41 Maybe before. don't know when lumberjacks are. I don't know either now. I think so. Brian's basically like, hey, I've been trying to contact you about my collection. That's an assignment here. I know you just switched over owners, right? I'd like to just take my collection back. I can't get a hold of you. I don't like what's going on here. Like I'd like to just take it back and find some other way to sell it. And they're like no and he says, he says we don't have your collection and he's like, he's like 22:07 No, you do. have a consignment agreement. actually have it in writing here, signed with the previous ownership. You took over, so now this is your inventory, but it's my product. And so I'd like to take it back. And the guy just thumbs through the contract and he's like, look around, do you see it here? And he's like, no, I don't see it here. He's like, can we check in the back? And he just crosses his arms. He crosses his arms and he looks at him and he says, let me tell you how this is going to work. You're either going to leave or you can take me to court and we're going to draw this out. 22:37 I'm going to drain you for everything you're worth and I'm going to tell you it's not going to be worth it for you. uh And so Brian and him they kind of get in a little disagreement that night. It doesn't like escalate or anything like that. And eventually let me tell you how this is going to work. All right. When you wake up you're going to see me outside your house every day until I get my collection back. All right. Your kids go to this school. I know their teacher. 23:06 I've been flirting with her. 23:12 Hey, we just produced the price of our patreon to six ninety nine a month. That's one price for everybody. You get all the perks. You get the live hangouts. You get to join the discord. You get early access, whichever reason you're joining for. We wanted to make it one price because I hate that everything in the world is going up in price. And so we wanted to make this a little bit more affordable for everyone to do. And so but also, you know, the other goal is that more of you join it so that we can keep funding the show. I mean, like what you know, how do I say that? That sounds like we're 23:40 poor and we are we are and uh no, but if you can't join us on patreon, no worries at all. Another way to support the show is by sharing it. Please tell somebody like the show and thanks for for being here for this episode. 23:57 information. I'm dating their teacher now, so now I go, I go into the classroom and I bring when my wife was teaching third grade, we at the end of the school year, this was a learning moment was we were like, let's get cake for the end of school year, but she ordered an ice cream cake. I don't know if you know about ice cream things. You got to those things fall because you can't cut into them. 24:24 Oh yeah, yeah, one hundred and you definitely can't cut into when they're frozen and there's thirteen just freaking eight year olds being like I sit in there like a brand chill out, relax, relax and then you're looking at her and she's over there panicking being like. 24:46 and I'm like I'm like hey guys, you know yeah, I'm trying to be funny. Yeah, did your dad's happen to steal a lego set from my friend Brian? You know, uh so I hate when people are like sue me. See what happens and I'm like well, you know what? Let's go a different route. I'll break your legs. See what I is this your mom's address? I can't 25:13 I'll get crazy dude, so let's see December thirtieth last year yeah twenty twenty four December, so twenty twenty four Brian reports the the situation to the Kaiser Police Department, which is the town they're in right outside Salem and they do a full investigation and 25:34 As a part of the investigation, they they tracked down 230 minifigures and several sets that Crystal actually had stored at her house. And so she said, Oh, I didn't realize I had these stored here. There's so many. didn't fit in the store. So I just had some of them here. She returned some of them, it is 233 of them, 230 minifigures of just the minifigures. And then how many more did she have at her house? That's what that's how much was out of her house. 26:01 That's what that's what he's from her house. Yeah, they seized everything that they found at her house, but that's what I'm saying. That was Brian's. That was Brian's correct. How many more did she have at her house to not know? Oh, that's what I'm saying. Other mini figures. If I got two hundred mini figures, yeah, that's a lot. How many more do you have to have for those to blend into your collection? That's what I'm asking. Okay, yeah, that's a good question. I didn't really. I thought they were all mine as you're looking at your gigantic, you know, that's fair. That's fair. 26:32 the police approach corporate bricks and many figures and the franchise to try to collect from them, but they're not able to source anything that was clearly brian's and so he gets a he keep track of like the serial numbers on the thing. I guess like what what's tough is I don't know like I know he says he has a spreadsheet with an inventory, but I don't know how detailed that inventory yeah it's like all I know is he says he 26:55 knows what he had. have this, you know, you got it. You got to take a picture of the whole thing. Yeah, have the skewed numbers, all of that, right, but he just, could have just been the name and then he has a sticker on it. Like that could have been his whole process. I don't know. ah And so they're not able to source anything else. The police, um the district attorney actually for the count, the county district attorney in May of twenty, twenty five basically declines to prosecute the case and says that there is nothing that ah proximity fixed corporate or this franchise did wrong. 27:25 This was just a transfer business ah and they're they basically are like, we don't know what's what's yours and we're not going to prosecute anything. And so he basically went through all legal routes he was capable of going through. And he's like, he's like, now he has to go through the other routes. He's like, he's like, I can't figure out what else I'm going to do here to solve this problem. And so he posts online and he's like, he's like, hey, I'm trying to just figure out how does anybody have any other ideas? 27:54 and someone happens to know this group of podcasters, a small podcast. m They go through and they put out a couple episodes of them trying to get the bottom of the case and they actually get hit with a cease and desist from bricks and many things and stay back off, but it was enough to get enough people starting to think about it. Hey bricks and many figs. What are you gonna do about it? We're covering this story. That's sketchy by the way. 28:22 That's suspicious. And so meanwhile, there was this other YouTuber, this other YouTube channels investigating it. They get the cease and desist. There starts being some like chatter online about it on the Reddit and different forums and things like that, but it's not huge yet. There's this other YouTuber by the name of Reckless Ben. Yeah. 28:44 you might know who this guy is because we actually did talk about him in another episode. Yes, because he's the guy who exposed the yellow deli cult and right in the cult yeah very annoying guy, um but people said that about you in the comments to yeah because of that that right there. Sorry sorry 29:08 Okay. I'm it back. I'm holding it back. I'm trying to be less annoying. Say, he wasn't knowing until he stopped use code. Tell him. 29:18 so reckless bed and his team are looking for another case to investigate, because that's what they do is they do this like long for yeah, YouTube journalism. I don't know what to I can't wait for them to talk about our podcast. We like yeah, these two do this long form YouTube podcast. It's not journal. You could call it journalism reckless Ben to give you an idea of who they are. They very much are like um Mr. Beast style, like super hype, like I investigated this call 29:46 and they will, you know, like that kind of youtuber sure about and so him and his team were trying to find different things to invest, which I guess if you look back, myth busters was kind of like that too though. You know, like the energy they had on tv was a little bit like what youtube is a little, you know, junkyard wars. Yeah, where it's like we're putting this two teams of engineers in a junkyard and making them fight to the death. I forget what the show was about 30:12 And so Reckless Ben finds a store and he's like, Oh, I'm sure. I'm I'm in. And so he calls Brian and him and Brian basically agree. Like, let's, let's do this together. Um, and Reckless Ben is a big YouTuber. he's not small time. So like, actually like has at least the funding to approach this. Um, and the audience size to make a deal out of it. So he tries to just show up at the store and he says, Hey, can we have my friend's, uh, collection back? 30:40 and long story and put his picture right up again. By the way, hey, we're here to collect my friend stuff. Okay, that's not going to happen. Yeah, so he shows up at the store and I mean, I don't know. This was this was the first point. I got really annoyed with the guy because he shows up and he's like he's like which guy reckless bet. Okay, because he's like he's like hey, you guys stole my friend's collection. 31:08 I'm asking for you to give it back. That's all we're doing here. We just want to get it back and they're like, we don't have anybody's collection here and this is just the employee at the front of the store. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we don't have anybody's collection here and he legitimately harasses her. Like he's there forever. Just back. Yeah, you did. You stole it. You stole this. Like you don't want to go to, you're going to go to jail and like he's like filling this on like meta glasses or something. oh And so finally she's in jail unless, unless you take all the cash out of the register. 31:35 and you go across the street and get me a visa gift card card and give that to me right now and so that's the only way to save you from going to jail from me. So he he just harasses her. Eventually she calls the cops. The cops show up and he's like perfect. The cops are here. I'm going to I'm going to tell the car perfect. I tell the cops what happened. That's always my reaction when we show up to how perfect. Perfect. 32:02 Oh perfect. The cops he goes. He goes outside to talk to the cop and he's like he's like they stole this collection. The cops immediately realize okay, that's a civil matter and it's not my problem. Yeah, the cop is like all right, sorry, all right, so the cop is like but the criminal matter at hand is you're harassing that woman in her store. She asked you leave multiple times or not leaving and so we're going to trespass you and if you come back, you're going to be arrested yeah, and so he makes this whole thing. This whole big deal. This is the moment I lost. He lost me because he was like 32:31 the police are in bed with bricks and mini figs corporate and they're covering up their crimes and it's like I know you're just making a YouTube video, but gosh, it's so annoying ah and so he not wrong though. The police are in bed with bricks and mini figs. He's like dramatic like don don uh so he's like well. I can't go back to the store now. I have to find another way, so he goes to the corporate office ah and he asks to see the CEO and the CEO comes out. This is the CEO of bricks and mini figs, but 33:03 All right for the listener, I'm gonna be honest. This guy either his facial hair is always like this, which is a little soul patch thing and a little they're like, you know, curled mustache. One of those guys. Yeah, you got to hope he's currently playing in a local theater production of this is what he looks like. You don't think he's in a local theater production of wicked? No, I'm confident because I know and he's not the guy who comes out and he goes the wizard will see you now. Yeah, he's not. He's not. He looks like that guy. 33:33 Okay, that's not his name is Amin McNeff Amin a M M O N a M M O in yeah, his brother, his brother is the C O. His brother's name is George. His brother's name is a bat yeah, yeah, Amon and Matt their dad's name is also Matt and so he comes out and it's kind of cool though and Ben harasses him to does the same spiel like you stole my friends. is corporate 34:02 corporates in Utah. Okay, okay, okay, and so he's like he's like you stole from my friend and he's like no, we did not and he's like he's like yeah, you stole a two hundred thousand dollar star wars collection for my friend. I'm trying to get it back and he's like we did not do that and he's like he's like if he's like if you don't leave you're going to be trespassed. Eventually the cops show up. He gets trespassed from and he goes perfect. He's like perfect the cops are going to solve the problem. The cops, the cops and so he he gets he gets obviously 34:31 trespass and now he's like, gotta figure out something else to do. How am I going to get this collection back? Sure. uh And so he, he develops this interesting idea uh instead of like going to the law or trying to do this in like a logical way. uh He says, we're going to bring a youtuber to the store, another youtuber, and they're going to do a like a like giveaway, like mr. B style. You just want a bunch of money to one of the employees. And while he's in there, 34:59 his camera man is going to film the inventory of the store so we can see all the stuff that's in the store got you and so there's going to be like this is b roll basically and they're going to do the whole thing and so they did this thing and they're like you won and they're like you want to collect your prize and this is the thing that's a little crazy is they're like we need to go to the woods to give you your prize and she agrees to this. She's like well after I get off my ship we need to go to the woods. Okay, I would love how much was the prize 35:27 I was the price. I don't what price you offer. Someone is working at his buddy brick and mortar bricks and mini things. You go hey, congratulations. We're youtubers. Yeah, you don't recognize us, but you're taking our word for it that we're youtubers and we're giving you a prize. eh It's like great. We just need you to follow us to the woods. 35:55 And so luckily they weren't killers. They took her out to the woods and they were like, hey, now that we're in this clearing in the woods, we can tell you this is all a ruse. Just kidding. We're trying to get that stolen collection back from for our friend. So they basically like come clean and she's like, oh, interesting. My boss has told you about you. He's trying to get you guys arrested. ah And so he was like, perfect. The cops. 36:20 and so she gives them a bunch of what do you mean is there footage of them in the woods? Do you have an image of them in the woods? This is a screenshot from their video just immediately after her shift in the woods and she's in uniform with everything you guys are. And now this girl is how old did you do this girl is eighteen nineteen yeah something like that in the woods with the strangers. It's like five guys 36:47 and this is the woods. We're talking about this is the literal for you for your audio listener. It's the wood. I don't know how else to describe that to you. Yeah, it's very dumb that she went out there with them alone. That was really stupid. That was a big big mistake on her part, but she was like her first expression. to be in a YouTube video. 37:11 whoa. This is when she realized when they told her everything she realized. Oh, you're the guys that my props on the table. So they did like a they like brought her out there in the ruse was like oh like this is like this weird religion thing and they had like a whole thing that they did. They put like a white cloth on her, put her out like tighter to a bunch of stick. They tried to make it like a we're they made it look like they were going to set her on fire and then they're like just getting they were like surprise. She was like well, I really thought I weird stuff crazy like cuz it 37:41 it for so okay. Yeah, just to actually just we thought it was funny that you kept saying yes, like you're like you're going to the wood like they were like they're like okay. We're gonna give you your prize. We want to talk to you and she's like oh okay and then they're kind of like that was too easy. Like we want to talk to you outside of the store. Okay, we want to talk to you in the back of our van in the okay. We want to talk to you in the world like 38:10 and she's like sure like we want to dig our own graves. She's like no, that's weird and they're like oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, 38:26 she won't stand in a grave. dug, but she will talk to us in the woods. Okay, we got it. We got it. got yeah. Yeah. What do you do for your work? Well, I'm a youtuber. What does that look like? I lure young girls into the woods. 38:43 That's an out of context clip. 38:48 Yeah, I was back when I was in the scare in third graders. 38:54 So anyways, they take her out there. They find out that oh yeah, they're trying to get over this. That is insanity, so they do. They take her out there, and yeah, so the whole thing was to get footage of the store. Yeah, the whole thing. Why do they have the woods? The woods? Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I realized after watching a lot of this guy's video or this whole saga, 39:17 is there's a lot of things that happen that are very catchy for clips. Yeah, of course, very clearly for clips or for like just headline stuff. You know, that's why we can't grow our podcast. We're not luring people into the woods. Anyways, so he long story short, in this, in this conversation, she gives him her boss's phone number, which is Josh Johnson's phone number. Okay. And so he starts calling Josh and Josh is answering the phone. And so basically 39:47 they start having a lot of conversation about it. Josh denies that they have anything. Josh is like, we don't have any of that collection. We don't have a single and they're not trying to pretend that they're not. They're like, hey, we're youtubers. Yeah, they're straight up. They're like, we're youtubers. We're trying to track this down for a friend. We're trying to just get the collection back to him. His dad dying of cancer. He needs the money. Like we just want to get this fixed for him. um And Josh is like, well, we don't have it like we don't like. I know. I understand what you're trying to do and it's like it starts pretty civil. 40:16 He's like, he's like, we don't have any of this and so we can't give you what we don't have. Um, and so it's just kind of like back and forth and he's like, I'll tell you what we have. 40:30 We have footage of your store and we also have your employees in the woods. uh Okay, and so also I'm dating your daughter's teacher. It's going well. What I like her. I started doing it get info about you, but it's actually pretty great connection. I'm meeting her mom next week. 40:57 Okay, and honestly think of this as a formal invite to the wedding. If it happens, I don't know. I don't want to speak that I'll tell you where the venue is pretty good about it in the woods. 41:09 the old wedding is a ruse to get him into the woods. Everyone's just standing around like I wedding is you were inside our own grave standing in the woods like fan was around. You've done a whole wedding you're and this girl has no idea and you're standing at the altar and you're like trying to tell the pastor they stall a little bit. You're like looking around for Josh Johnson show up and you're like surely he's not and you're like and like if you're saying you're like I 41:40 do promise get very low because the guy didn't fall for it and to hold 41:54 What are you looking to that? Did you guys hear that? Did you guys hear? I think there's some. I think that way somebody out someone's coming somebody's late to the wedding. don't want to miss it. cops, hey, what are you guys doing here in the woods? You can't just have a wedding in the woods. I can't marry this teacher. You don't tell me I can't marry a teacher. The ones I don't even know her name. That's how committed to this 42:19 YouTube video. know of you is no here's it goes. Here's it Here's what I call you. You're in the you're in the you're like I promise to love and hold and cherish and also that brings us to this week sponsor YouTubers dude crazy. So he goes back and forth with Josh Johnson for a while. He does some stunts along the way. For example one thing he does is he sets up 42:48 ah He legitimately sets up a real business. The reason he does this is because uh he goes to Brics and MiniFix corporate. He tries to go after corporate, but corporate's like, that's a franchise. They are not us. Like we do not have control over what they do. If you have an issue with them, you take it up with them. It's not our problem. so the things that our franchises do is not our issue. And so what he does is he sets up an LLC. He calls it I steal from old people LLC, makes a website and 43:18 does dang it and sells a franchise to one of his like friends. And then they go and they get a permit and they sell his merch on the street outside the store. And it's just the face of the owner. And it says, sell, I steal from old people and that's their merch. And they stand outside and they're like, Hey, they're stealing from old people in there. It's then the police obviously get called and the police show up and they come to Ben and Ben's like, well, that's 43:45 That's a franchise. I'm not responsible for my franchise. That's actually kind of funny. Yeah. And so they all get trespassed, but they do stunts like that for all the time. Yeah, yeah, For video. this back and forth of them doing stunts and things like that and getting in disagreements until eventually they get in this big blow up thing where Josh Johnson's basically like, sue me, just sue me. You want to sue me? Sue me. Do it. 44:11 Oh boy, am I sick? I sure do need Tim stones. Get well quick trick. And what is it? It's simply chug an entire gallon of orange juice. Wow. I forgot. And then this shirt reminded me, I'm so glad that I have this shirt as a public service announcement, a public health service to other people around me. Do your part. Get this shirt. 44:40 shop.tilland.com 44:48 And so they go through and they look at the possibility of suing him. The problem is this is a major lawsuit. $200,000 is a major lawsuit and they don't know if they have the manpower to pull off this major lawsuit. So what they decide instead is they say we can go to small claims. But the problem is $200,000 is way too much for small claims. So say, well, what if we can split it up 20 ways? But that's illegal. You can't split up a debt 20 ways. So what they did instead... 45:16 is he got together 20 people and they all went to the bank and they took out $10,000 worth of debt and credit or loans or whatever. And then they used that to go to Brian. And because he still technically owned all of his Lego collection, like he, even though he doesn't have it in his possession, he still owned it. They bought $10,000 worth of his Legos from him. And then later they called Brian and they said, Hey man, I'm really down on my luck. Like I need. 45:45 $10,000 to pay off this debt? Is there any way you could loan me $10,000? And they took the $10,000 that they bought their Minifigs from and they paid off their loans to the banks and their credit card debt to the banks. So now it's zeroed out, but now they still have, they can't get this product because Brick and Minifigs have it. And so they all went to Bricks and Minifigs and they're like, hey, I just bought this consigned item. I have all the documentation that is mine. Will you give it to me? And the Bricks and Minifigs was like, no, we don't have, but we're not going to give it to you. 46:13 we don't have that wait how okay, and so now he's got twenty people who technically speaking because they went directly to the consigner the owner. They went to the consigner and tried to pick it up and the consignors not letting him pick it up. So now all twenty of them went and opened up a small claims. Okay, so they so okay. So the way the consignment works then is they can buy it through Brian. Yeah, you can still buy it through Brian. Brian just has to report it to you. 46:42 And so he called reported it and they were like, we don't have any of your stuff. And then he's like, okay, well, I'm reporting it to you. And then he told them, okay, they know you go pick it up from them. And so then they pick it up and they were like, we don't have it because it's like, that's your fault. Yeah. And so then they went and they all filed a small claim suit for 10,000 it, got it, got 20 separate cases. It's very cheeky. I don't know if it could hold up, but what they did, they knew that they weren't going to 47:10 except the papers when they serve them right so and this was also a catchy thing. They made up a fake Guinness World Records thing where they had a Guinness person show up and they're like we got you the prize for most Lego stolen from an old person. oh This is from Guinness Book of World Records and so they like set it up to where they set the expectation of like oh, this is the youtuber faking stuff again for sure and then immediately after that they had all twenty people start showing up serving the court papers for each call uh small 47:40 claim. Yeah, ah eventually they ah they closed the doors for the day. They had to come back tomorrow and anyways, eventually they served all the papers and ah they then went to court. But he's like, we expected this and we honestly hope for this that they would think that none of this was legit, which they didn't. They didn't show up for court, which means all those cases went into default, which meant that franchise lost and owed all those people their $10,000 claims. 48:09 because they didn't show up to court that day. So they won. The very next day they show up to the store to be like, Hey, you didn't show up. Here's a paperwork that says you owe us $10,000. And there were signs on the door that says permanently closed and they shut the business down and they were gone. Didn't tell any employees, didn't tell anyone. was like one of those where it's just like silently overnight. They shut the business down. Yeah, it was all the LLC. Um, and so they won the case, but they can't collect because it was against that franchise. 48:39 They go to corporate, corporate's like, well, that was against that franchise. That franchise doesn't exist. It's essentially bankrupt. there's nothing we can do. It's not your case isn't against us. And so it's kind of this weird legal gray area where it's kind of like bankruptcy, where it's like, well, that entity doesn't exist and being able to collect, even though you won, being able to collect from an entity that doesn't exist is very legally difficult to pull off. And so they get stuck in this weird limbo here. So they say, okay, well, 49:07 we can go try to collect from them. Here's the thing about both of these guys. They don't live in, uh, in the town where the store is though. They live outside of Salt Lake, um, in a town called American fork. Uh, so it's like between Salt Lake and Provo. Uh, and so this is where the story goes from like, I don't really like reckless bin to reckless bins. Okay. Anyways, so they go, they go to Utah. 49:34 And they say let's go collect from them and get them to pay so they show up at Josh Johnson's house uh And which they should have from beginning I'm on board they show up at Josh Johnson's house when they get there Josh is on the phone outside the outside his house so I will let him finish his phone call and I don't know exactly how this happened but before Josh gets off the phone call a police cruiser pulls up to his house and then another one and then another one and then 50:03 the police talked to Josh for a while and then they come over to his car, which is pretty shocking that they know, like I don't understand what they know because we find out afterwards, they show the outside of car. It's like tinted out. You can't see anything in it. And they basically, they get reckless Ben out and they talk to him and they're like, Hey, well we're trespassing you from his property. Somehow they figured out he was there before like any interaction began. And so like, if you show back up, like you're going to be arrested. 50:30 and then they leave and when they leave ah they they're driving away and the police follow him and so he's all a who reckless bed okay his group ah and so reckless bends in the backseat he's not driving he's got one of his other like camera men driving as I make sure you're like follow every traffic law don't do anything wrong they're like clearly following us ah and there's actually in the video you see it like he stopped set a stop sign complete stop blinkers on 50:58 turns, not a rolling stop. And then they light him up, they pull him over. They say he failed to stop, which is not true. He definitely did have it on footage. Yeah, they have it on footage. He definitely did not fail to stop. uh And the police come up and they don't even look at the driver. They go immediately like lean around the driver into the backseat and they're like, who are you? And he's like, I'm Ben. And this is obviously a different cop than the one he just talked to. And long story short, they hold them there for 51:27 45 minutes an hour, kind of harassing him, asking questions. ah There's nothing that they can immediately do there. So they eventually let him go. And then later that night, they're driving around trying to figure something else out to do. ah The police pulled him over again and they hold them for three hours, search their whole car, search all their persons. They tell them that they got a tip that there was heroin in the vehicle. ah And he's like, well, we don't have any. And they start doing the day they do drug tests on everybody. 51:56 And obviously they find nothing. Right. But they're very threatening to him. Like he tells he tells them what's going on. He's like honest, tells them everything that's happening. And there's a point in this video where he's like, he's like, look, man, he's like, he's like this situation, like you understand it looks really bad for you. Like you're out here. You're not from here. You're from Cali. You're in Utah. Like you could go to jail. You could be in jail for a long time. And he actually says this thing. He says, he says, we play differently here, which is like you're in a suburb of Salt Lake, bro. 52:26 we play differently here. ah Our parents are slightly related, so maybe freaking relax, and so the next day after this whole weird interaction with the police, they like three really weird interactions for the pieces place is trespassed from Josh Johnson's house. Yeah, he tries to go to brain and best house and Brandon answers the door and it's really weird because pin and answers the door and he 52:56 doesn't say a word. He just walks out and stares at him. uh And they're there for 40 minutes and Ben's just trying to talk to him. like, Hey, we want a lawsuit against you guys. We're just trying to collect the money that you owe us. Like that's all we're here to do. ah Then the police show up. The police trust fence, Ben and his crew from Brandon Best's house. Right. ah And so Ben Ben's like, okay, I guess we got to sue them personally to get our money because they're not going to pay in case we won. So they go through the process, they get a lawsuit. 53:26 together through the state of Oregon. They try to serve papers and long story short, this just keeps happening. They just keep getting process servers to try to show up. The process servers get the police show up. The police trespass the process servers. They can't serve these people. Like they're getting blocked, literally blocked from the police to serve the papers from them. There's even a point where Ben shows up with a process server. And it's like, we're just trying, he talks to the cop and the cop like this, this is the one cop who actually kind of hears them out. And he's like, he's like, well, you want me to try to serve them? And he's like, he's like, 53:54 I mean if you're willing to that would be great and so he goes up to the door. He's gone for like thirty minutes. He comes back and he don't want him and it's like that's not how that whole serving works. He said no thanks. No thanks. Hi, I've got a court papers here and we were just need to serve you. Would to be served? No, the door says no serving please read the read the sign. The sign says no solicitors and no serving 54:23 And so seeing this, this is like part two of his video and seeing this whole video, you start to see this, this kind of saga where it's very clear. The police are like immediately just sided with Josh Johnson and Brandon Best in this town uh because they are, they're harassing Ben and his friends. They're trespassing all of them. And then eventually Ben's like, okay, we can't serve them papers. The police are not letting us serve our papers. We can't, we can't get a lawsuit going. 54:50 So he says, maybe the best next best thing is we could get a go fund me. And so maybe we can build a bunch of publicity and get the money that way so that we at least um yeah, at least try to family. Right. Right. Right. And so they make this flyer. That's Josh Johnson holding wads of cash. Yeah. And there's a crying AI image of a family behind it. And it says I stole a family's life savings and he made a banners of this. 55:16 and he put it on the fence across the street from Johnson's house ah and and was like, we're just trying to do a go fund me. And so in this event, the police show up again and they block all the signage. They're like, can't you can't put this here. And they they're arguing with him. He ends up getting arrested. ah And then one of his friends is talking to the police and the police are like, well, we got us. We're going to search your phone. 55:46 And he's like, okay. And so he like hands him his phone and what happens is as he's handing him his phone, his wallet app like triggers. So he just locks his phone. When he locks his phone, the cop freaks out and he's like, don't do that. That's obstruction of evidence. And like grabs him and wrists it out of his hand. And like, they started like arresting him too. And they're like, grab him and cuff him up, throw him in the car. And they're like, that was really dumb what you did there. It was this whole ordeal. So these two guys both got arrested in this situation. 56:13 the cops then go cut down all of the banners that they put up. And so they then go to jail, they're interrogated, they talk to the cops, they tell the cops everything. The cops, it's a whole thing. You ever sit through someone just describing a YouTube video? 56:43 Okay, okay, okay. That was such a useless detail. So by this point in the story, what else has been arrested twice? Yeah, one of his friends has been arrested. They tried to do this go fund me. The police won't let him do the go fund me. They're clearly harassed. How the police not let him do a go fund me. They're trespassing them every time they come anywhere near like any place where Josh Johnson or Ben frequent, they trespass them. 57:08 They even try to stop from doing to go from me. Are you talking about serving? You mean I'm talking about the serving the papers and then go fund me the go fund me anytime they like set anything up. Obviously they can like had to go funding out, but anytime they try to advertise it in town, they like interfere and they like cut down their their fairs or anything like that, but it's not for in town. It's for the internet. I mean for sure, for sure, and then doing that helped to go fund me for sure right. um So anyways, all this is like crescendoing with the American for police department for weeks. They have been kind of feuding 57:38 Okay. And eventually what happens is one of his friend gets picked up on one of these events. He's in jail. They all go back to the house that they're staying out there at this Airbnb and the police show up and they raid the Airbnb. Oh, and they say that what they have is they have a warrant out for Ben's arrest. They say that he's armed and dangerous. Why? I say that he has stolen Legos in that Airbnb and they 58:07 take everybody that was there. Can you put the rifle picture back up these got stolen legos inside like what are you talking about dude? They say he has stolen legos inside yeah all right. Go to the next one. You keep going through your little slide show and so they arrested everybody in the building okay at air bnb yeah took him back to jail and interrogated ben. They actually dislocated ben shoulder in this raid and 58:37 They claim that they got an anonymous tip, but it's like this was Josh Johnson. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so long as we're short, what became really obvious is the American police department. I'm to to a pay phone and call in some anonymous tips on Josh Johnson. Well, what became pretty clear pretty quickly is the American force police department had some sort of, I don't know if it's a prior relationship to Josh Johnson, but they had a partiality to them. 59:06 and not just one of them, like the whole department. Yeah, what reckless Ben alleges is because they were all members of the LDS church. um Sure, this is in that town and all of them are members. Even at one point got a more missionary to show up and try to like convince him and they trespass that kid. Yeah, and so there was I would too. 59:29 Yeah. Trespass that kid. They're annoying. ah So now what has happened as a result is Ben got arrested. They booked him for 30 days without bail for I don't know what. There's no I don't know what they're saying he did here. They did the charges of stalking the charges of harassment. A judge pretty quickly overturned the without bail. But then they had proved immediately after that they made bail. They got him out. They approved immediately after that that uh he can be on 59:59 like a new warrant that would be without bail, so he skips town. He actually in another video he makes another video that he's currently on the run from the law. He puts out another video shortly after where he's like he's like this is what happened. This is my warrant. It's without bail, but he's like luckily I have escaped the jur the jurisdiction of the United States uh law enforcement because I'm in Mexico and he like films his video in Mexico, which I'm in Mexico right now. 01:00:26 which is I'm now an international criminal, which is illegal, and so he makes a follow up video shortly after that with a very clearly green screened background. Mexico. No, it's a very clearly green screened background of the St Louis Arch, and he's like he's like I'm in St Louis, Kansas City right now and and I'm giving an update on the bricks and mini fig situation and that's crazy. uh So he this could legitimately ruin this guy's life a hundred percent, a hundred percent. 01:00:54 And so this has become a thing where now, as a course of this whole YouTube saga, the first video got six million views, the second got four and a half million views, went super viral on social media. A ton of people on Reddit talking about it. And it's been such a big backlash for Bricks and Minifigs is that most Bricks and Minifigs franchises have been review bombed by people online. So this has become a huge ordeal for the Speaking of review bombing. 01:01:19 Leave us one positive. Leave a positive review. order please. Apple corporate. It helps still holding the guns that nothing wrong was right here. The franchise is still holding their guns that nothing's wrong here. Brian is still Brian and reckless Ben are still holding their guns that they stole from them. So now Brickson mini figs is suing Brian or Brian and reckless Ben. They're suing the previous franchise owners. 01:01:46 Yeah. And they have sent cease and desist to all these different YouTubers and streamers that are covering this. They've Brian and reckless been are suing bricks and minifigs and they're suing the new franchise owners. uh And so it's just this massive web of lawsuits. Brian or reckless bin is suing the American force, American police department, they're probably going to win because they the American for the police department made a YouTube channel after this. 01:02:16 And their chief of police came out to basically refute every claim that reckless Ben made. And then they publicized all the body cam footage, but they heavily redacted it. Unfortunately for them, somebody, uploaded that, 01:02:34 accidentally left a folder in that upload. That was the full unredacted version. And so all the youtubers found that immediately. Right. So the whole unredacted versions online now, they, they figured it out within like 30 minutes and took it down, but it was, it was too late. Yeah. So all over the internet is footage. love when incompetence gets people. That's my favorite thing all over the internet though, is this footage of the body cam footage where they are harassing Ben and they're going and buddy buddy with Josh Johnson. 01:03:03 right, Brandon Best, and they're joking around with them and then they go back to their cars and they are just like scheming being like, well, can we get them on this? No, that doesn't really work in this situation. Can we get them on this? Like, no, that doesn't really work on this situation and like very clearly and they're like being like, okay, like how can we book them today? Like what is something we can find to book them? That's crazy. Yeah, and so a lot of and a lot of stuff where they're like making fun of Ben and his camp and they're like 01:03:30 aligning themselves, and so it looks really, really bad for the police department is what I'm trying to say right, and so this whole thing is still pending. Ben has a worn out for his arrest. Yeah, is not, he's literally fled the country has left the country while he's back in Saint Louis, Kansas City now, ah but what's interesting is, you know, coffeezilla, ah he did like a deep dive on this whole thing to try to figure out where what happened to it, and he managed to get everybody in the story to play ball. 01:03:59 to be like, eh I just want to find the truth. And so everybody like got on calls with him. So he interviewed everybody. He did it. He got everybody to share their inventories and their spreadsheets. Josh Johnson and everything. Yeah. Every single, every single party involved. Bricks and minifigs, the new franchise owners, the old franchise owners, Brian Best. And he compared all the spreadsheets and he went through, did all the work to figure out what's going on here. Um, and long story short, here's what he found. Uh, he said, okay, we do know that initially there was that initial post that said this is a $200,000 collection. 01:04:28 And he said, after the collection was taken under consignment and valued, the total value in the spreadsheet from that consignment was actually $107,000. But that initial post was what everybody has run with in this story because it's a bigger number, it's more interesting, more exciting. And so it's actually $107,000 worth of product. What was recorded sales before the store was taken over was $24,000. And so those $24,000 were products that were sold. 01:04:56 was paid to Brian 17,000, which is the agreement he gets. Yeah. And so, uh, the expected inventory was there would be $82,000 worth of inventory left, uh, in the store. What they found was that in the photo evidence from the night of the takeover, there was 21,000 worth of sets available in the store. Brickson mini figs claimed that there was only five, um, discrepancy there. Uh, there also was a side deal, uh, where 01:05:25 He had actually sold a chunk of this to MNR Productions, which is Reckless Ben's company, which is about $20,000 worth of sales to Reckless Ben's company. And that appears to be that collection that was seized back from Crystal's house. And then there's some discrepancies in the point of sale where there's about 10,000 sales that were registered in the store's computer system, but were never updated in the tracking spreadsheet. And so what Coffeezilla realizes is, oh, the people... 01:05:53 who were selling these items either didn't know or they mistakenly didn't follow the process and never updated the spreadsheet to say we just sold some of that consigned goods. They just sold it, money passed through and then it was forgotten about. And so kind of a failure in process. Then there was about $25,000 worth of layaway inventory where people went in and this was really rare for Bricks and Minifigs because they don't normally have enough, but it's the kind of product that would go on layaway. But because these are rare items, 01:06:23 They had a bunch of stuff on layaway. ah So once you go through all of this, there's only about ten thousand dollars worth of product that they can't explain where it was, which is most likely stuff that the new franchise had that they didn't realize they had and sold without realizing it belonged to him. So this whole thing was over ten grand is over ten grand and is a massive misunderstanding that comes from bad book. Well, and how can you trust a girl? 01:06:52 keep the books correctly when she is willing to follow some strangers into the woods. This feels like a hiring error and so many of that's. You know what? I'm hiring some new employees. Maybe you quick questions. uh Core values here at the company integrity, you know, discretion, ah you know, punctuality, you know, also and please answer honestly. 01:07:21 Are you a U.S. citizen? Have you ever been convicted of felony? 01:07:30 If someone approached you and said they were a YouTuber, would you follow that person into the woods? Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, That is just a yes or no. 01:07:42 what okay, what you to bear would it be? It depends on the yeah, I'm to go ahead and end the call now. No, no, no. Yeah. So uh coffee's ill. This conclusion is basically what's going to happen is these. This whole thing is going to go to court. Discovery is going to surface that this is a this is a bookkeeping error. This is bookkeeping error and there's going all the stuff that they've done with harassment stuff is actually going to bite them in the butt. Yeah, this is going to be a little bit of a thing like Brian's going to get what he's owed from what's left right, but 01:08:11 but then Brandon and Josh are going to sue for you know, lots of damages and death for their business, right? A bricks and many things, defamation, Brandon and Josh defamation and American fourth police department defamation. Probably even though they well that might actually be, you know, that could be a byproduct for the test. That could be a separate issue. Yeah, yeah, you know, but the whole anyway, messy legal eagle did a whole video on it and it was really good. I definitely recommend that one. uh He he straight up said he said this is a situation where 01:08:39 everybody involved is in the Should have talked to a lawyer earlier. Yeah. Cause they all dug themselves into such speaking of lawyers. 01:08:51 my lawyer told us that we should just if we were asked for comment, we should say fit a lot. Hey, thanks for listening to this episode of things. 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