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John Cena told me to burn down Zany's Nashville. 01:50 He's retired, he needs a hobby. My sleep paralysis demon is John Cena. 01:59 Things I learned last night. 02:08 your angles making your buys it. Okay, what's up? You know that moment? I hope that this isn't ever my first time. If you're a first time guest, we just ask you to fill out the card on the seat in front of you and ignore whatever he just no or whatever he just said. 02:25 his views do not reflect the views of our podcast. Okay, what's the topic uh three i atlas? Have you ever heard of three i atlas? No, I feel like it's not a good thing. No, no, I feel like this is a conspiracy theory and we just opened with bison. I can't every strong so fail every time without three i three eyed atlas three i three i the letter i oh 02:54 at re I Atlas. Yeah, okay. Is this a band who good name, good band name, actually good band name, which band was it three doors down that had the city sin soldier that three doors down that three doors down that might be oh you know time up. It was like in the army, the army go army commercial or whatever city sin soldier 03:23 that three doors down yeah. I don't yes. Is it nice interesting? Okay, whatever and then third eye blind is it man right? Third eye blind was a head of their time. Holy cow, holy cow, I are by steps were objectively so good. So you know who's got great by says Tim Lambi says I don't know if you know about his steroids use. 03:52 his biceps are huge. He's my sister huge because you steroids and then there's some other things he did because of the steroids. I don't know if you know he actually ironically. It's ironic you say that at the time of recording this the day before I put out a big statement about basically he was like he's like. Can we just let it go? I tried to kill my wife, whatever I serve time for it. I went to prison. I did the whole thing. I mean can we just let it go and just listen to that yesterday? Yeah yesterday it was a big that's crazy and he didn't straight say I would try to my wife because we talked about him before this yeah, but like he literally yesterday 04:21 and he didn't say I tried to kill my wife, but if you don't the story he he tried to put a hit on on his wife and he served like ten years in prison for it. He did go to and now he's trying to do his band again um and he's a lot of people are like you shouldn't listen to that guy because he tried to kill his wife uh and yeah yesterday he's also we just let it go. It's in the past was really good. The band was objectively very good yeah, so yeah and I've shamed people for worse. 04:54 Anyways, I vote for him. 04:58 I'm not electing a pastor, so he to kill his wife or care. Okay, it's like ten years ago. It's like ten years ago. He to present. did his time. Oh yeah. Anyways, so do you remember this guy? Should I remember this guy? Yeah, this is three I Atlas. This isn't three. I know it's not, but I'm trying to figure out why I know this guy. This is Avi Lobe 05:27 is that name ring? There's no way that's his name. His name is Avi Lobe, Avi Lobe, Avi, L O E B for those listening. He looks like a college professor at a community college. Wow, like a well put together guy and this is his linked in photo. He's got the white background as a professional head shot. This is his head shot on Harvard's website. Oh, is it really okay? Avi Lobe. Good for you dude doctor. Yeah, Doctor Avi Lobe, Doctor Lobe. He's a Harvard astronomer. I didn't mean to do that to you. 05:56 I mean- 06:00 I nailed it though. You're a college professor. Yeah, but not in a community college a little bit more prestigious than a community college. Okay, sorry. He looks like a professor at a school that you have to make a amount of money to pay for you to go to an extra. There's no way that you can get into it and that's how the rich hoard their wealth is that they offer. They hoard the opportunities for you to break into that level of wealth. Is that better? Would you? Is that what you yeah, that is actually exactly what I prefer. Yeah, so he's this is he does look like a professional headshot. It looks like it's very professional. You know, 06:30 that's what I mean. Like this is like this is Harvard paid for this. This is Harvard money headshots. Yeah, this is Harvard. That is some Harvard buddy headshot right Harvard money headshots right there. Yeah, so Avilob you might remember him. We did an episode about him a couple years ago. Oh, mua mua. He's the guy who found a mua mua. You remember that found a mua. What do you remember? Reason? I think a mua mua. Did we do it at the same time as the Castle Bravo episode? I think it would have been about the same 06:57 those like Castle Bravo might have been earlier than a mo because I'm mo I just I think nukes, but that's not that's Castle Bravo. Yeah, Castle Bravo's new. Amua moa is Alex. Do you remember? Oh, mo mo is a a asteroid. Yes, yes. Okay, yeah, so that makes sense. I could have worked backwards from there. Yeah, a mo moa was an interstellar object was. I mean, I guess technically still is, but it's the first time we've ever seen something from 07:25 outside of our solar system into our solar system was a moa moa and as a big asteroid and everybody saw it and they were like it's got to be aliens if it's not from here. Oh that's right. Avi was one of the people saying 07:42 don't look at me like that. I have the obvious going on TV talking about how this that was an alien spaceship. So I this is three I Atlas. Yeah, I'm saying it out. 07:57 All right, let's get into it. So I be I be with with a mo mo. He was like, it's alien. This is a con. I thought it was just a conspiracy, but this is an alien thing. I mean, love. What's usually he's pretty good at like hiding it. If it's not, he can't no, this is now. Okay, let's do it. Normal. This is a thing. No, I mean 08:23 ivy was a big proponent of this could be aliens right, and so he was going on TV talking about how might be aliens and then that sparked a lot of controversy. In what year was that again? It was first round in twenty seventeen. We did our okay, so I think twenty twenty one sure because we were watching it for a long time and eventually like it came through and it right left and and that was kind of the and I was like oh yeah, it's a rock. Actually, that was just a really big rock. It's a big rock. It's just big rock kind of tumble into the sky. Sure well space. That's they want you to think 08:51 and yeah, so a move a left couple years later. After that we discovered two I Borisov, um which was he was the president of Russia before Putin old to I this is not a unique identify. You guys keep calling me too. I like it's weird that I got two eyes. It's not as a super normal thing. 09:19 to have two eyes guys. I have two. I got two eyes. What are you talking about? I don't know why. Okay. I have two. I everyone's like, we should call him two. I cause it was two eyes thing. Got two eyes. It's all two eyes thing. Yeah. This guy, look at this guy with two eyes. Bit went on for seven minutes. 09:43 I like I know we edited down. We just edit this down for seven minutes. Tim just ran and be like he's got two eyes, two eyes, how we eyes for seven minutes. He just said that over and over, so we call him seven minutes. Him YouTube, YouTube has this feature where it suggests things. It's called inspiration, it's called inspiration and it's it tries to like give things 10:11 based on the type of content you put out that does well. Oh yeah. It tries to suggest new things for you to cover. Sure. And it had one yesterday that I took offense to. uh It said YouTube thinks that we could get more views if yeah. If we get a shock collar for me to make me laugh less. You this to me. Yeah. What did it say? It gave like an AI art. Yeah. I had AI and AI gave it. It gave a title shock collar shenanigans. 10:39 Is this the secret to curing Tim's laughter? What? And they gave her a little AI image. It made Tim super fat. It made Tim so fat in this. 10:54 Yeah, it was weird. We should get a shot. Call her. That would be a funny episode. If we just had a shot color for each other, each other, I'm not doing it. I don't have to. I bring the value. I bring this podcast is different than the value you bring to this. That's why we pay you 50 and then the value you bring is you have to wear a shot. Your bed is shot. Caller Tim. Your bit is funny. 11:25 your bit is your funny. My bit is agree. Okay, stop looking at the clock. Fourteen minutes he just went to I oh he's got two eyes. It's crazy, so they saw two or a soft force off the I stands for interstellar. Okay, so a mua mua is officially now one I O mua mua to I Boris of oh now we're looking at three I atlas yeah. Oh mua mua got the name. It was discovered at a lab in Hawaii 11:52 or I guess an observatory in Hawaii and then Borisov is the name of the Russian Russian strong. I call her yeah the Russian Atlas is is Greece or what Atlas is an interesting thing. Atlas is a let me get. Let me see if I can get this uh abbreviation correct. Atlas is the name of an organization. Oh and it is the which is cool. Atlas the organization. It's an abbreviation. No acronym. Thank you. 12:21 it's an asteroid. It's the asteroid terrestrial impact last alert system, and so they're looking for asteroids that are going to hit earth is what okay, and they've got observatories all over the globe and their job. Their literal job is to just watch the sky and be like that looks like it could hit us and then they do the math and like don't worry. It's not going to hit us ah and then if there's anything that looks like it's going to us, then they do independence day. Okay, they go blow it up. They haven't had to do that yet, but there, but do they have a technology to do that? Yeah, 12:51 Yeah, we could watch it. We could watch anything in. Oh yeah, we can watch and calculate if it's gonna hit your I'm saying do we have the technology to go blow something up? Oh yeah, yeah, you we can put we shoot a rocket up, put a nuke on that rocket aim it towards the thing. Just hit it feels pretty risky to do. Oh, it's very risky. I don't think that's what we would actually do. I think most likely we would not actually do that, but that is kind of like the like mental map that started at list was like was like what if nuke 13:21 rocket. 13:24 rock yeah and someone was like that's a great. We should do that send it send it yeah. I know it's just it's this organization that's like we should know if an asteroid is going to yeah that's fair and if it's going to impact it then we have then we hand it over to the governments of the world to figure out how to deal with the yeah we're just going to be like hey there's a problem. That's my favorite role to be in by the way 13:55 I'm not going to be a part of figuring this out problem pointer very good at problem solver. Not so I'm not going to solve it, but I can tell you about it. That's why I'd rather be a podcaster than a politician. That way I can just point at problems see see so so three I Atlas is the third interstellar object that we've detected. Okay, named after the organization that found it was found in July 1st, twenty twenty five. Oh wow. Okay, so it's very neat. Yeah, 14:24 What's interesting about this is today is January twenty seventh twenty twenty six. Yeah, yeah, it's a new yes. I understand how time works predicting the future. I just need people to know that we were calling episodes in advance and I just need people to know that we're not recording this before three. Atlas was a year, twenty seven, twenty five. This releases twenty twenty six. The Queen is still alive and the Queen, so we did the unfortunate episode 14:53 the way we recorded the Queen's death. didn't mean to do that. Yeah. So this is yeah, this is 2026. This is now six months ago. Yes. I found this thing. So they discovered it and it was coming in quick. It was actually and here's the deal. This made the news almost instantly. Once it like, I mean, I shouldn't say almost instantly. They saw it. They did some calculations. They put out some research papers. They went to a conference. They talked about at the conference and then at the conference they 15:21 unveiled all their findings. All the astronomers at the conference were like, this is pretty crazy. And so then they started talking about it. Then it hit the news and then it was like, course, very viral on the news. So it was kind of slow roll. But when it hit the news, the way the news was talking about this, they're like, this is the fastest inner uh terrestrial object we've ever seen. Problem is it's the third object we've ever seen. right, right, right. It's like, it's like, so you're faster than the other two, which I mean, it's still a big deal, but it's like, it's not how much faster we know. 15:51 I could probably look up really quick. It's like if this is like four times faster, that's different. If it's like four hundred times faster, that's obviously a different velocity. Yeah, so let's see here. Most speed three, I at this speed so three, I Atlas here. I'll give you a move first. A move was the top speed that we tracked it at through the whole life cycle. We were fogging it was one hundred ninety six thousand miles an hour. 16:20 relative to the sun very fast. So well, three atlas was I'm seeing a lot of different numbers here. Let me see what's the biggest one is two hundred and forty six thousand. Okay, that's I'm saying. So not faster that much faster. I mean hundred ninety six two hundred and forty. Yeah, so I was thinking if you were going to be like a million miles per hour like that. Yeah, I mean yeah. I mean if that's your what you're expecting then yeah, 16:49 Yeah, not as I'm saying so it's fifty thousand miles an hour faster course is faster. It's a lot of pretty faster. Yeah is pretty fast, so it's moving very fast. Yes, and so this got a lot of interest and the more we started studying this, the more we started to realize like this is a very do a lot of really weird things. Here's a picture I have of it. This is your intentionally touching me at this point stuff. 17:16 you're doing the thing under the table where your foot's like it was like it was a mistake the first time and then now you're doing on purpose and I'm going to make a big deal of it on the show. Okay, this is the picture we have. This was the this was the first discovery of it. Yeah, for those listening, it's 17:37 This is crazy that someone's job is to look at this. You know, saying this looks like the picture that you get on your phone before it loads like it's all pixelated and there's like two white kind of orbs. Yeah, you know, yeah, and it's not a picture of a thing. It's just a, know, this is like that picture where it's like in the video and then zooms out and it zooms out other pictures. Then eventually is Jesus. That's what this looks like. Oh sure. 18:06 Here's another picture of it moving through the sky. Yeah, I'm glad they pointed that I'm glad we could see which one it is. Yeah, I mean, I'm more concerned about that red arrow in space. That's crazy. Those things is falling around. ah So this thing is moving through space and it's it's very strange. The speed that it's moving. What's more strange about it, though, is its trajectory ah and I shouldn't say straight. Well, it is strange. The trade is strange, but the trajectory is also very exciting because it's going to 18:34 come very, very close. So this they do some calculations. This is the solar system. Oh, it could destroy Pluto. Huh? I mean, it could destroy everything. Which one is us? Are we blue? Yeah, we're the green one. We're the green one. Yeah. Oh, it could hit Mars. Yeah. So this is so what's really interesting about this is it's coming very close to the top. I'm kind of my bad. Don't worry about me. I'm kind of dumb. What's really interesting is this is going to come into a uh cycle 19:05 dead through our solar system, essentially. almost as close to the sun as Earth, which is pretty phenomenal. What is so interesting about this and what got people so excited about this is we have a ton of imaging devices along this path. And so we were like, we're going to get a lot of great great shots of things because yes, Omua and Borisov came through our solar system, but they did not come anywhere near this close. So we couldn't get as much good data. 19:34 for it because we were taking images that much further. I see yeah and so this is their calculation that it's not going to hit Mars. Yeah, it's gonna yeah, it's gonna thread gonna hit the wow yeah and so this was a very exciting fine. We're like oh, this is we're gonna get some good science from out of this. It's some good science. We're get some really good science from this. Okay, um what else is really interesting about that? So about the trajectory that was very interesting is space. As you know, it's not 20:04 a flat plane. It's a 3D. And so what you normally see or like here's what's tough. We got to lay this out real quick. What's really tough with this is you hear a lot of people talk about this and they say what we normally see in situations like this. But we have two other examples of inner terrestrial objects. like we don't have a lot of. We don't have a normal. We have we have the last two, but we also like we have from those last two, we were able to extract you late a lot of 20:34 data from it. And we are also able to just kind of logically think about like, what's the most likely scenario here and do the math. And so what you would expect is because it's this 3D plane, like these interterrestrial objects, they're probably not always traveling on the same plane as our solar system. could come in at any direction. And that's what we saw with Omumuamu and Borosod. 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Then you have what's called a thick disc where there's kind of those weird objects that kind of orbit out in weird orbits and they kind of move out in rare directions, but for the most part you see things fall into that thin disc and this is true of any any object and so it's really surprising that this thing is on our plane on our yeah in the same plane as the thin desk. Okay object uh that seems like a coincidence. Yeah, I mean 22:50 coincidence or it's got to be alien could be a coincidence could be intent. Yeah, what else is really interesting about this is this is on unusually rich in carbon dioxide and why do we know that so you can tell any any so let's tell you can just tell by well you ask it. You see it on and you're full of carby docs aren't you 23:19 I can tell you're full of gummy docks. can tell. No, so the original theory is this is a comet. ah And based on the path of it, and then we can kind of see like this is not a rock, this is more icy, more made up of a liquid. ah But when we look at things through a telescope, the light that's emitted from it, that light, depending on the makeup of that celestial object, uh different, what's the word I'm looking for? 23:50 materials reflect different light patterns. Yes, yeah, and so there's different. There's different colors that you would or want to see right based on what it's made out of. So that's how we know that wild. Yeah, that's how we know like distant planets and distant stars like what they're made of makeup is and what type of thing. So if you ever hear like that's crazy, we've learned this stuff in the last like couple hundred years. Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's hard work. 24:16 because you have to like stare at that thing. I have worked really hard to do this, ah but this is why I know that the world's not made up in my head. 24:29 you know, say is that here stuff that I'm like I couldn't think of that. That's what I'm saying when people are like no to the whole thing like what if we're all just like what if all this is just in your imagination? I would not have thought that up. I'll tell you that I can tell you I would not have thought it up. I could not have thought of that. No, my brain's not that smart. uh There's no way I thought of that, so it's like ridiculously rich in carbon dioxide, which is not what we expect of an object like that. So it's very strange. Yeah, 24:57 you know, else is rich in carby docks. What aliens do people think this is aliens? We'll get there. Another thing that's interesting does. Do you know anyone who thinks this is aliens? uh Yeah, so the this actually it's ironic. I just talked about the thick and thin disks because yeah, because this uh the trajectory 25:26 they think that this came from the Milky Way's thick disk. And what's interesting is... What's interesting about thick and thin disks is the thick disk is usually the older part of a celestial system. Because what happens is... Yeah, it's expanding out. Yeah. But it's also like the longer something is in orbit, there's more potential for a handful of things to happen. One, they could collide with other things and explode. They get sucked into the center thing and explode. Or... 25:55 they get off the that what happened to us was get sucked into the sun. Yeah, we're falling into the sun. That's what our orbit. That's what orbit is. We're falling into the sun, but we're at the perfect distance where we never actually make it in. We're just falling in like right now. What orbit is I'm not stupid to yeah, so we're falling in. not getting closer to the sun. Are we no no, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, so we're not that's we were not falling into the sun. Well, we are falling into the sun. No, I grab never have it. We're never gonna fall into it, but we're falling into it. 26:24 Okay, so we're never going to fall into the sun. That's what saying. I mean, I think potentially you could something would have to change. We would have to get off of like our current like path where we would make yeah collision. Something bigger would have to hit us and move us off. Yeah, we would have to get knocked off our orbit. Yeah, for sure, but that's not impossible. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, okay, we're on the same page. Chill out 26:49 anyways, so so the but the other thing I I just tried to have a conversation with up here. I just realized that intellectually you're down here. You're too dumb. I need to talk to you like do okay. Sorry, I won't ask you any more questions. Dumb dumb 27:08 so the thick dis so the thick disc is older because the other thing that can happen is you get thrown off your orbit and you shoot out, but you don't shoot out far enough to like you get sucked back into the orbit and so the thing is really are perfect conditions with the the axis tilt and how far away we are. Yeah, we were the distance that Mars is our our climate wouldn't be. We wouldn't be able to live. Yeah, we want it. Yeah, true, but that doesn't mean nothing could 27:38 true. We we couldn't. I'm saying that's crazy right. It is crazy. Yeah, it is crazy. I don't know. I think about all this. Sometimes I just go 27:48 am I really mad? This person's cut me off. You know, like we're on a floating ball getting sucked in on son. We're on the thin disc. We're on the sun's thin day. You and I are both on the thin disc right now. Sir, you're out. You're on thin disc right now. That is a that's and so so all that to say because it's from coming from the thick disc right there, the area that it's come coming from scientists at NASA think that this is 28:18 probably coming from a side of the galaxy that's seven billion years old. And so this is an unbelievable scientists can ham can ham said that it's like the earth is six thousand years old, but but that's seven billion years. So this thing is super old and coming from a part of the universe that heavily predates the earth. And so ah 28:47 what else is very interesting is it has this seemingly unnatural metal composition, and so it is really rich in nickel and very low in iron, which is not a very commonly uh occurring event. Yeah naturally, it's what we see more. We're pretty low on iron as well. We see uh 29:15 uh things like this in alloys that are in this industrially produced. And so that's odd. This seems artificial is what we're saying here. Yeah. The other thing that's very interesting. Are you familiar with the wow signal? 29:33 that one the wow signal. No in wow is the YouTube. You know I can't do my pinky and you can you touch your pinky and thumbs? Yeah, I can't do that really yeah. My hands are too strong. Oh my gosh, this freaking beefy muscle right in here. I can't even get that things together. I can touch them, but I got hand muscles for days so 29:59 the wow signal. I was trying to become a professional thumb wrestler for a while and then I had an existential crisis about how we just live on the thin disc. I don't know dude. I thought something mattered for a second, but then I just remembered that we live on a thin disc. We just live on the thin disc. So none of this matters. None of this matters. None of this matters. It's not even finished yet. Okay, okay, no. So 30:24 do we got to talk about red? I just feel dread right now. We got to talk about the wow signal. Okay, what is the wow wow signal in nine thousand and seventy seven? Have you heard of setty yeah? I'm going to take that as a no yeah, so that is the search for extra text search for extraterrestrial intelligence. It is a organization that is looking for some signs of alien life outside of this so okay and or I should say outside of earth and not necessarily outside right system, but 30:53 they were they one of the tools that they had at their um disposal was what was called the big ear radio array and it was this uh big ear that they put on the ground. Oh my gosh, this is just a radio array to get radio signals from space. Yeah, it looks like a giant football field covered in white. You know, like it like antenna stuff like yeah yeah and it's huge though because there's that building back there for scale. Yeah, 31:23 and I really might be the size of a football field. That's actually a shopping mall, that movie or that building. Oh my gosh, okay, no, but I'm saying that's probably bigger than a football field. Yeah, it's a huge. It's a huge radio array. Yeah, I mean it's it's designed to catch where capture radio signals from deep space. The big ear I'm it's in Delaware, Ohio. Oh, okay, yeah, I know. I know that sounds like I was saying the state. Yeah, I know I don't know how called okay in Ohio. 31:53 Yeah. So the there was somebody using this big ear radio array and what they were what they do is they'd listen to radio signals that come into the radio array. Okay. And there was a signal that lasted seventy two seconds and based on that frequency they were able to they listen to the frequency and then they attribute symbols to it. And the wow signal was a signal here. You see it circled that and I'm 32:23 haven't researched this, so I'm foggy on the details of why, but for some reason something about this did not seem natural. It did not look like natural radio signal. Oh, so someone circled it. This is all numbers on a chart, like basically, like if the thing is just putting out numbers, there's this sequence that doesn't look at the rest of paper. Yeah, it looks someone circled it and the seven across there and then they wrote wow, the exclamation point. So that's why that's called the wow signal is that someone wrote wow yeah to 32:52 the person listening to it said wow because it seems artificial yeah. They're like this is not a naturally occurs. The rest is all numbers like ones, twos and threes literally just scattered across the paper. Everyone saw there's a six, but this has six e q u j five like signals that are letters and numbers that are not listed anywhere else on this on this paper yeah and they're very like in short succession. 33:20 And so the idea here- What does that sound like? we know? No. 33:31 You want to hear it? don't have my I don't have my ear thing plugged in. I do want to hear it. Okay, this is I haven't listened to this, so I'm not sure what we're about to hear, but this is like this is the actual recording from that night because they record over the big year. Yeah, they record everything that the big ear captures. So this is the actual recording of the wow signal as he heard it and recorded the wow on it right there. 34:01 Wow, and then it stops. Seems very artificial. 34:30 I really didn't want to crack. Dang it. That's so funny. Okay. Do you have the actual? 34:40 That's really funny. All right, here's here's the actual recording for that. That seems artificial. 35:11 We know when the sequence 35:14 It's now. 35:20 I guess I don't understand what would equal each number. You know I'm I think it's like wavelength. Okay, I think they've attributed to wavelength and I think I think because like so I mean all that stuff. We were just heard. That's the sound that what does it usually sound like when there's not something happening? Do know what I'm about? Is there a longer recording of like just this all that dead space where it's just ones? Yeah, hold on. I got to remove John Cena theme from my search. 35:49 Alright, so this is a... And again, I haven't listened to this. So hopefully this is what it actually sounds like. 36:02 Okay, yeah, so that there's a low radio background hum of space that you hear occasionally. You will hear radio signals that come from distant stars like they will put out a radio signal, um but it's not like unnatural. It is there's some solar flare or something that put out a large amount of energy and that's put out a radio signal, um but it's not that registers yeah yeah, but this this seemed 36:31 very a natural the wow signal and it's been a big deal for a long time and it's been something that there has never been a good explanation for the wow signal of where it came from. Okay, most scientists, most astronomers think there's probably a natural explanation for it. They just don't know what it is yeah, but there's a there are a lot of like extraterrestrial fanatics who say that's proof of alien life of a that they were sending us a message and the message is yeah. 37:06 So I think that it's pretty clear to me. It's pretty obvious to me. Well, what's interesting about uh three I Atlas is it comes from the same spot in the Milky Way Galaxy that the wow signal originated from. And so it is okay. It's a strange coincidence that it's coming from the same place where the coming from. Yeah. What is arguably the same direction or the same 37:35 You know I'm talking about like it originated from the same spot in the Milky Way Galaxy. We don't know that. Yes, we do. Why do we know that we know where that radio signal kind of came from because we can track that those waves backwards. Oh okay and then the same way with three I Alice we can look at his trajectory and track it backwards and then the that original conference where the astronomer who found it did his presentation with his academic paper. This is a peer reviewed academic three I Alice. Did he link this thing to that he didn't make the link 38:04 Other people made the link. But in his math, he did all the work to track that trajectory back. And in that tracking, he actually even accounted for this is when it went through another solar system that would throw the gravitational pull would throw off its trajectory a little bit here. And so it was like really detailed work to go back and attract it. Do we think that something might have happened? A something broke and exploded. 38:30 and then this thing I'll toward us and that sound of whatever that was could have been the wow signal. That's interesting. I haven't seen that potentially. I think because yeah, that's interesting and like that sound happened fifty years ago. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's how we heard it since the year. No, that happened. That one moment has never happened again. Okay, yeah. So if that because because what would it 38:58 They tracked this back to this location and that was a 10 million year path. so this theoretically, I guess, and I'm just thinking off the dome right now, but theoretically, if the sound wave reached us and then 3i Atlas is the shrapnel, then afterwards reaching us, that could make sense. 39:22 maybe. I don't know if that I don't know if the math checks out that math would work, but I if way if it does, if I'm right, I would love to make money off that. So please, I like to monetize how smart I was. I would love to be paid for that. If anyone's listening, you know, I don't know if that math would work. Maybe I don't know. I don't know how fast if this was like sucks for artists these days, man, space artists put out the sound. It gets played once in the seven. It gets ripped 39:51 on lime wire. Artists isn't even making the money from that. He's not even getting paid and so this this object is on that same trajectory. Okay, very odd. What else is very odd? And here's where we start to get into some strange realms. Are they saying this object is ten million years old? Oh, they're saying this object is probably way older than ten million years, but that's that's what they traced it back to. Okay, and so it could potentially have gone way 40:21 come from somewhere way further away than where the wow signal was. But that's just the point where they traced it back to because I'm assuming the math started to get shady. Like it started to get hard to be accurate at that point. And so this is like the last point where we can be confident that this is where it was coming from. And so it could potentially have started there. It could potentially be way older. what else is really interesting? This is all the information. 40:50 we get from NASA and my peer reviewed scholarly research because they're moving slowly as they always do. But there are a lot of amateur astronomers who are now saying this thing I'm in and there is I just put a theory out there a second ago and if I was right, you have to send me money. You have to pay me for it. I cannot overstate that over state it. I do need that money. 41:19 paying for a comedy special by the time this comes out. I'm filming it tonight. There's going to be sixty thousand people there and I'm going to have to pay because they're going to burn down the national comities, but because this guy told me I didn't tell him to they did because that guy told me to told me to 41:44 my dad, John Cena told me to Cena told me to burn down Zanies Nashville. 41:55 He's retired. He needs a hobby. My sleep paralysis demon is John Cena. 42:03 that's pit bull. No, that's how that starts. Oh, you're right. Anyways, so your sleep paralysis, even his pit bull though pretty funny. 42:18 So I'm going to wake you your dreams. I'm going to wake you from your dreams. I like when I get a soft smile on Alex. That's what I know. I did some funny that I call you the other day when I mess with that kid and I was at a quick trip in liberty. No, I was at a quick trip in liberty. Oh yeah, this guy walked in who was dressed like the hat man. 42:47 Like he had a full length cloak. He had the hat man hat and he walked in and like quickly walked to the restroom and there was a kid probably 15 or 16 saw him and I saw a look on his face. He thought it too. He saw that and he's like, that's the hat man. And so I, I was already paid. was walking out and the hat man walks past this kid and this kid freezes and he watches him walk past him. And then I walked past that kid and I was like, did you see him too? And he was like, 43:17 what I was like the hat man. Did you see him too and he was like get out of my head and then I just left and that kid was like I don't talk to strange men in their thirtys. That kid was like that's my purse. I can kick you in the shins stranger danger. That's right. You're Say it like you mean that's my 43:46 that's a great episode. So we actually tracked it. That happened and come from track his movements back and we can even solar system be passed through like that little band. You know, I'm about yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the sound. The math says you're 10 million years. Hey, math says you're old. Excuse me. I said 44:15 the math says your whole this equation. I just read the numbers. I read the numbers from the parking lot and you're all has a kid said to you, I don't talk to old people. Did you see him? Why? Here's how the interaction actually in your head. He was like, what in reality was like, did you see him too? And he was like, what? 44:44 you're like. Did you see him to the hat man the hat and he's like yeah dude, then you left and then he looked at the cashier was like he saw that guy right in the cashier was like what 45:03 he's like that thirty year old guy. I think he was thirty. He seemed like he's not fifteen or more. Do you have a bags under his actually do have a calculator? Let's do the math to the eyes. Where the numbers now so some of the astronomers yeah started tracking this thing and they're using telescopes. They're using radio signals long story short. A bunch of them are reporting that they are getting radio signal back from three at less back. 45:32 Yes. So similar to the wow signal, they're getting radio signals that do not seem natural. In fact, the signals when you do the same sort of equation that they're doing to put the numbers that we got for the wow signal are coming back prime numbers, uh sequential prime numbers. Whoa. Well, what's interesting is prime numbers don't, well, I should say sequential prime numbers don't occur naturally and anything we're aware of. uh And so Carl Sagan, you know Carl Sagan. Yeah. 46:01 Carl Sagan, he has to the wheel of fortune. 46:07 Oh no, no, that's a Jack. uh It's Sagan was the president in. don't know. He had Saganomics, right? Anyways, so yeah, I'll do it. I'll do my jokes. 46:26 with the riff. You just let me, you let me riff. And it was a ghost hunter on that's that's Zach Baggins. No, that's a hobbit guy. 46:42 Okay, so sorry, Carl Sagan has a very famous quote that he said if extraterrestrial life were to try to communicate with us through a radio signal, it would be through prime. It be through prime numbers. Oh, for real? That's what I said. That's a real quote. That's a very famous quote because he's like, he's like, it doesn't occur naturally. What's the likelihood that's one of these, these amateur astronomers is shooting a signal of prime numbers at this thing. And then it's like it's bouncing off. 47:10 I mean I guess it's possible, but it also it's also unverified turns out to be true. 47:19 You gotta pay me some money for figuring that out. I don't even think I don't understand how astronomers make money. Here's the I don't understand how this is profitable to astronomers. I look at rocks in space. All right, we're going to pay you a salary. I'm going to pay you for like, understand. I don't understand that thing. I'm going to you for the way you at that thing. good. How do you get money? 47:46 You're getting money. You're paid to look at space. Get a real, get a real, no, here's the thing. They're amateur astronomers. So they might not even be there. They're like saying, look, here's the signal I got. Okay. But it's like, don't know that they got it from that. There's no peer review process. that, what are they? There's no way to verify. Yeah. But this is going, I just held my, what are those things called? It has two little dials and you draw on it. What's that thing called? And you draw on it. Yeah. You know, whole thing. A Ouija board. Yup. 48:13 What's that called Alex? A little thing or it's got the sand inside. You know, talking about the etch a sketch. I held this up to the thing and it came back prime number. It's just a bunch of prime numbers and it's actually a portrait of Jesus. No, it prime numbers and then I flipped it upside down. So there's starting to be some really interesting things going on with 48:40 All this is in the span of six months to amateur astronomers jumped on this and they're figuring this stuff out. Yeah. And what's really interesting is this is the picture I'm trying to paint here is this is a very weird object. Yeah, it breaks a lot of our models that we have for comments and but we're also only the third one. Well, yes, it's the third object we've seen. So it's the third time we have definitive proof of what these things look like right, but we do have theoretical understandings of it where we've said, okay, based on 49:09 the way we understand everything else in the known universe, this is what we would expect these sorts of things to look like. we don't, while this is only the third time we've seen this, we do still have a pretty decent understanding of what these things could potentially be like. And this doesn't fit into any of our understanding. It breaks a lot of the molds, which is strange. And it also breaks a lot of what we see inside our solar system, which is also strange. We've seen a lot of comets, we've seen a lot of asteroids, and this doesn't look like any of those. So this is, regardless of anything, this is a strange event. 49:40 Hey, thanks for listening to this episode of things I learned last night. If you like the show, you want to support us, we've got merchandise that you can get and it's good stylish stuff that I made. put a lot of work into this stuff, so it's great to find other tilling fans in the wild and be like, wait a minute. I know that shirt. And so yeah, we would love for you to do that. You can pop over to shop.tillin.com or the QR code or there's a link in the description. There's plenty of ways to find it. We promise we made it super easy. So thanks for supporting the show and thanks for listening. 50:10 So NASA tracked this thing throughout 2025 and in October it made its closest approach to Mars. October 3rd it passed by Mars and when it passed by Mars we said hey we've got a lot of cameras there and we turned every camera we got in my ring door. Riggins got an ad yeah it said a little notification there's a person outside your front door. 50:39 and I struggle, so they turn all their cameras to do we get good. Do we get a good picture of it? They turn all their cameras to it. The only one that got a really good picture because of just the timing of when it passed by was the Mars Rover, which is not designed to take photos of outer space. Yeah, it's designed to to oh, they're hiding something. It's designed to traverse my see where the conspiracies come. Okay, let's see the picture. This is the photo that I got. Oh yeah, I bet yo, I bet that's the oh, that's the best image we have of it. Huh? Oh yeah, I bet 51:09 So what's interesting about this shot, looks like a pong. It looks like the video game pong. Yeah. Yeah. It looks honestly, what we heard a lot come out from this is Tic Tac. You'll remember from the Nimitz encounter that spacecrafts look like a Tic Tac. The what encounter? Remember the Nimitz encounter? We've talked about this. Nimitz? Yeah. The USS Nimitz where they flew up, they chased that Tic around. We never done an episode about the Nimitz encounter. Nimitz encounter changed my life for a second. 51:41 Okay, I I'm surprised we've never talked about interesting. Maybe we should do an episode on it. Sure anyways, the Nimbus encounter was a UFO encounter. The UFO was in the shape of a tick tack. That's how they described it got it, and so this this is in the shape of a take tack yeah and the Nimbus encounter. I mean so it passed more yeah past Mars. I already leave our our solar system. Yeah, it's on its way out now, so the this has already happened like our chance is gone of getting 52:10 Well, there are two more windows. March is the best window we're going to have. March is going to pass by Jupiter. um And so when it passes by Jupiter, we've got another shot. Juno, the satellite around Jupiter, has got another shot to get a good, good image of it. What's the best image we have from space? Probably. I mean, I don't know. I feel like that's a suggest subjective question. No, the clearest, like obviously this is a bad image. You know what saying? 52:39 Yeah, what's the clearest photo we have from space? I don't know. I'll just ask Google, Google, Gemini. What is the clearest image from space? I mean the James Webb Space Telescope just recently when they first commissioned it got a really interesting shot of the known galaxy. Okay, but even that I don't know what say is like the clearest. Let's see it. Okay, 53:08 I'll be the judge of that. I'll tell you if this is a good photo or not and here's the thing. Here's the thing with um so there's these are. This is a collection of the first images from the James West Space Telescope. m This was from their first big release and what is really interesting with this actually and this is not what this episode is about, so I'm foggy on these details. I remember looking at it as when it came out this picture on the bottom right. That's right. These are real 53:38 Yeah. Those are all galaxies. Those stars are all galaxies. And this image was so high res that like when you zoom in on those galaxies, like you get images like the top left and the top left is a comparison between James was scape space telescope and the hub or not hub. um What was the one before that? How, what was the, what was the, so the James Webb was on the left. Yeah. And that's Hubble. Hubble is the 54:07 the telescope before that's how clear of images we can get now yeah, but we also need to recognize and this is so you get the top right. This is like they call this like the what are the what are the most the word that they use? It's like the birthplace of stars. There's a word that they use and I can't remember if you call them yes, but they call them like the birthplace of stars, but they they take a bunch of different light spectrums for this. 54:34 Okay, these this isn't just visible spectrum. So this is like radio wave. This is ultraviolet like it's other spectrums that we can't see that they've layered on top of each other to illustrate everything that's going on in space. Oh, but if you saw these type of things in real life, you don't see that cloud because that's outside the visible spectrum god for us. Yes, but that stuff's still there. I see what you're saying yeah, and so anytime you see a picture from space, they're layering a bunch of light spectrums on top of each other, but most of which we can't see. 55:04 sure physically as humans, but the AIs can see it. I mean yeah, the robots can see it yeah, they can, but that bottom one is the the best image we have of the non universe and you can like zoom in. It's it's kind of I think that's what I was trying to say. I was like how do we have this crisp of images from space, but we can't get a good picture of this thing. Well, the James Webb Space Telescope is designed specifically to get images of deep space and it's where gigantic 55:32 Here it's in space. So we launched it into space and it's in orbit outside of Earth. This guy. um But this is, let me show you. Yeah, this here is the James O Space Telescope. So it is a giant camera. And so like that, all that thing is the lens. Like that's what's capturing the light, not even the lens, like I can't, I don't know how cameras exactly work, but that thing inside the lens that captures the light. Yeah. That's all of that hexagon. And so it's a gigantic camera. 56:01 that's specifically designed to catch images from deep space where the the Mars Rover is a camera like we think of like it's a small camera that's a i to navigate sure it's not designed to capture deep energy. Okay, so so we got habits yeah and this here's where I begin to get a little bit foggy on how this storyline happened because there's so much content out there about three i atlas now somehow that got interpreted into this 56:30 And I think that what happened here is somebody colorized this with multiple light band bands. Right. So we're seeing ultraviolet on top of visible spectrum on top of radio. And so you're seeing what this could potentially look like the same way we do with a lot of images from outer space. OK. And I think armchair astronomers see this and they're like, well, it's got lights like a spaceship. Right. And this began to turn into this. 56:59 which began to turn into this. This is 57:06 Yeah. 57:08 and so now as the internet's dumb. All right for listeners, here's how it started. It's go back to the original. It looks like faint Christmas lights in the but no, no, no. Sorry. The second one, second one thing. This looks like faint Christmas lights in a galaxy of stars and it's like, you know, teal red and purple, right? And then the second one, they then gave it a shape. They made it look like a very, this is someone made this. Yeah, more definitive. And then this next shot is just 57:38 someone made this image. Someone put this in a nano banana and then and said it on the internet and said this is true. Yeah. So are there people who think this is what it actually looks like? Yeah, there are people who think that this is a NASA photo yeah because and that you just feel the energy drain for me as I realize how hard it is to live in a society where some a lot of people are just oh my gosh man. 58:07 so that stresses me out the story line. What stresses me out is somebody made it and just put it on the internet and they were like yeah, this is funny. Well, I don't know if that's what we don't know what happened. I don't know where this originated from from NASA. It could have been someone who thought it was funny NASA. It could also been someone who was like trying to illustrate it like be like this is what it might look like like her, but they didn't intend for it, but then other people take it and they go. This is what it looks like yeah got it yeah and so 58:35 The Internet did what the Internet did, and this it turned into this whole storyline, ah and it's it's interesting just watching how mythology develops. Yes, because as you watch the storyline, it is this is a could potentially be aliens, maybe. And then as we develop it, there's kind of two storylines that diverge in a wood. ah And one of them is these are the aliens coming to make contact. And this is the mothership. 59:02 Because there are strange things that are happening with it that are hard to explain. It's doing things that comets don't normally do. After it passed to Mars, started getting closer to the Earth and it started to sublimate, which is when in space things don't turn into liquid, turn, they go straight to gas. And so as it got closer to uh the sun, it started turning to gas and that's where you get caught the tails on comets. And so the gas started to appear. What normally happens with that, 59:31 is the solar winds will carry that gas and so you see it as like a tail because it's carrying that gas, the logical direction the solar wind is moving. But for this object, what was very odd is it went the opposite direction. It went towards the sun, which we still don't fully understand why that happened. The leading theory is that because it was more carbon dioxide than H2O, it sublimated earlier and so it started getting sucked by gravity. 01:00:01 instead of by the solar winds. The gravity was stronger than the solar. Oh god, that at that distance, we don't know that for sure, but there are so many things about this that break our mental model for things that we don't understand. Sure. And science in so many situations is saying we don't know why that's happening because they don't know yet. Right. And so then armchair astronomers are like, I know why it's happening. It's aliens. And so, Hey guys, it's aliens and 01:00:29 if that turns out to be correct, you got to pay me, you got to pay me, you got to pay me, figure out how to make money. So this thing passes behind the sun and then now it's on its trajectory out of the solar system. So we're on this, we're on this back half of this trajectory where it's somewhere between Mars and Jupiter. Okay, and it's on his way out. So we're to get one more good shot in March to get 01:00:59 good imagery of this. The thing that the all the three I at lists truthers are saying is that this is going to turn into earth and this is their chance to make contact with us that now it's going to turn around. Yeah, it's going to arc. It's arcing around the sun to come to earth to make contact first contact with humans, um but it's not no. It's not going do that. How prevalent are three I truthers? 01:01:29 Are there a lot of these people? It's to the point where researching for this topic. I've been seeing this since this came out on social. I was kind of surprised that you hadn't heard of it yet because it's everywhere on my social feed yeah, but my social feed is trains, so I've seen a lot of it, but when I was watching this on and monster truck when I was doing research for this, it was really interesting because there's a lot of like 01:01:58 solid information out there, okay, but there is so much more pseudo science. Yeah, of course, and what is really interesting. This is the first time I've seen this, but I would argue nine out of ten like videos on social and on YouTube are Avi Loeb, but it's AI and so it's him talking, but it's very clearly AI and it's him on news video. It's him on at news desks. It's him like looking like he's being interviewed for a podcast 01:02:27 It's him in his office talking about it, but it's AI and it's yeah, it's I think we're crazy. That stuff gives me a panic, but we can't spend too much time on that. Yeah, we're cooked chat. Yeah, it's this. This was this is the first time I've seen something like this at this scale where so much of the information out there is clearly AI, but it's AI masking as people with authority to spread information. That's 01:02:57 a lot of them was blatantly false, but a lot of it was like, they're not outright saying things. Like I watched one of those AI videos, right? We're out. This Avi Loeb in this AI video never outright said this is aliens. Like he never said the word alien. He never said extra test trails, but he heavily eluded like, well, and this is the problem that science has too, is that science isn't going to definitively rule something out. Yeah. And so a truther 01:03:24 well, and this is, this is true in the vaccine stuff. This is true in, guess this is kind of true in, politics as well is that we're trying to force people to take hard stances on something, but someone's going, yeah, but I don't, I can't definitively say that that is true. I can't definitively rule that out. That's like, that's definitely not aliens. It's interesting. And because it's left open, they go, oh, well, okay, we'll see. You're leaving it open, which means it is. It's interesting you say that because I watched Neil the grass, Tyson talk about this. 01:03:54 And in his video, he brought up God of the gaps. Have you heard of this like philosophical concept? Yes. uh If you haven't got the gaps is this thing where you can look back through history and there are gaps in our understanding of things. And throughout history, what humanity has done is when we don't understand how something works, we put God in that gap. And so there's a hurricane. We don't understand why the hurricane happened. And so God caused that hurricane. Right. His wrath. Yeah. There's an earthquake. 01:04:22 God caused the earthquake. Or even just like we don't understand why trees grow, there's a God behind that that's making that tree grow. uh And even Sir Isaac Newton, he explained all this stuff about the galaxy and about physics and how these things worked, but there was some stuff that he couldn't understand and he said, God has to step in and take action on those and have effect on those things in those situations. uh And Nidhagraha Sison talked about how the important work of science is like to be comfortable with those situations where there are gaps in our understanding and to say, I don't know. 01:04:52 and to not have to have an explanation because as humans like our human wiring needs creates explanation. It's the same reason, same reason to like, I understand why we're getting into a rant, like a tangent territory now, but I understand like when people are like, man, ghosts and all this stuff. You're been in a room that's like one candle on the table. You're been in a room. It's spooky. It's there's the so many shadows and all this stuff. It's the same thing. Like 01:05:20 your child imagination when you're a kid, see stuff in your room that's not there and your brain connects things and puts things together and says, this is real and this is scary and these are things right? Well, he, he, he did the same. He made the same example because he said, as, our, as our understanding grows, right? Those gaps go away. And so we don't need God to explain hurricanes anymore because we know how hurricanes happen. We understand that. Um, and so those kids, there's less and less gaps in the world, but there's still things we don't understand. And so people need to explain it. 01:05:48 and then he pulled it and he said a lot of what we see right now and the world of astrophysics is we see the alien of the gaps. There are gaps in our understanding. That's what I'm saying. We place aliens into it. Yes, we don't. We can't comprehend what that is. Yeah. So it must be aliens. Right. And he was like, and that's what I'm saying is that the human desire for closure is greater. Like the anxiety against being unsure or like I read a great book. 01:06:17 called um the truth about us by Brent Hansen. I cited so many different psychological studies that I really enjoyed that book. And he writes in a fun, uh palatable way. But uh there was a lot of studies about how your brain's inability to rest like with to be like, Oh yeah, we don't know. Yeah. Yeah. And like your brain just can't do it is hard. Yeah. Like, so your brain just connects and create stories and goes, yeah, we do that. Cause because 01:06:45 one of the applications that he was talking about is that people would rather follow a leader who is confident and sure, you know, which is how you end up with authoritarians, which is how you end up with strong man leaders. Then a person who's like, yeah, I'm not really sure we're working together to figure this out. Yep. Yep. And that's, that's the exact point he was making. Cause he said scientists will always, they start with, they find things that they don't know and they say, let's look for evidence to see if we can figure out 01:07:11 what that is, what's going on? Same thing. They also change as they have it like same thing like beginning of COVID where it's like, okay, we got to stay six feet apart. We got to do this. We got to wear masks. We got to, were washing our groceries, which now looking back, we go, okay, that was a bit much. But at that time with the information we had, which was very little, those were the best. We got to make, we got to make decisions that are overly cautious. And in a situation like that, we had to take action. We didn't have enough information to make good conclusions. We had to take action. But in a situation like this, the scientists don't have to take any actions. Right. So 01:07:39 What they're doing is they're and they're and like we can we can theorize. Yeah, they're they're comfortable to say here's what we know. Here's what we don't know. We don't know a lot more. And so they won't. They will be very slow to figure out more. Yeah, they were for and so they will make they'll be very slow to make conclusions. And then in the connected world we have today, where it's more easily easy to publish information than it's ever been, everybody can come out and say, well, they don't know, but I do. 01:08:06 and then they can be confident. Like you said, and then everybody else will follow that person and be like, oh, that's a guy said it was alien. So it's probably aliens. I think it's right. I think because the other NASA tell your uncle, I said it's aliens, yeah, or that it was a fractured thing. Either way, tell your uncle to give me money and then he can buy my prepper bucket, my prep on our store. Well, it's ironic. You said that because you try to sell prepper bucket. I funny 01:08:36 I said a divergent of wood because there's a lot of people who think these are aliens, but the divergence is there's a lot of other people who think this is Jesus Christ returning to Earth. There's a large community who say, we're watching Jesus come back to Earth right now. is, yeah, that's that's because and so that's how you get what they're saying is you look at the Earth, the Earth is falling apart. It's clearly the end times. 01:09:02 And what are the odds that right in the middle of the end times we see this object that defies all understanding that NASA can't explain? Another side bit about So we really are doing alien gap and God gap at the same We're doing them both. Another thing that's really interesting about there was a prime moment right in October at passes by Mars. get that weird shot of Mars and then it's like silence from NASA. You know what happened around then? That was very significant. That caused 01:09:28 a lot of signs from NASA World Series, the giant government shutdown that lasted a really long time. Oh yeah, and so everyone's like yeah, NASA's not talking about it. NASA has nothing that NASA's like NASA found out it was God. Yes, it's like oh, it's actually Jesus. Yeah dude, God put NASA in their place. You know, God was a joke and he wasn't putting out the ritz. Oh God is an awesome God. 01:09:51 just in case anyone in this comment you're about to you type in this comment. These two buffoons don't know anything about Christianity. Oh, oh sister, 01:10:02 Don't come at us. But it was Google has this thing right now. If you Google three at list, there's like a little button that shows up. It looks like a little comment button on the bottom and it turns your Google search page into a little space. And then every once a while the comment flies by and you can try to catch it. And if you catch it, it says congratulations, you earned your salvation. Come to have a full. Wow. Is this congratulations? Fiddle off. 01:10:28 Hey, so this week's episode ended. It's over. It's sad and you can go listen to our Muma Muma, which is another episode. did another episode. It's not as sad. Yeah. I if you want to see where Avi Loeb came from, he came from Muma Muma. He's not from this world, not of this world. He's got that sticker on his truck. Hey, you know what? Hey, 01:10:48 Hey this week there's no outro. We're just going to have this AI version of our home alone. Do the outro. I we just cut to an AI. I've just been like hey listen to a movie. We should not do that. That's funny actually. Hey I if you like this episode you probably didn't you know. But if you're here a movie we talked about a lot. Just leave all this and who cares. 01:11:11 people skip this part. Put the QR code for Patreon somewhere. Yeah, watch a mumu, buy some mergers. I think none of this matters. You got to pay him. Sometimes I think about how old the earth's. We're all just on a thin plane. did the math. You're really old. I did the mayor's super old.