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00:00 man. What's up? Happy to be here. Good. I good. All right, well now I'm a little less. I'm going to start this episode a little different today. I'm not going to ask you if you've ever heard of what this is about. Sure, I think it was going to give it away. I'd rather you be surprised. ah I love that as well, so there's this. There's nothing. There's nothing I love more. 00:24 See you on for your birthday. 00:28 I don't think my wife hurt me, but I saw her think about it. It was hard for me to say with all the fourth of July in my mouth speaking of trauma. Let me tell you about my gas. 00:42 I hope your mom Rob a things I learned last night 00:55 my wife found this out. She tried to surprise me a lot for my thirtieth couple years ago. You know a long time ago. 01:03 we're well into our thirties. Now I did think you were one of my friends the other day, but you're like so old. I like dang he got so that sucks. You see that somebody messaged me on it. I posted a selfie of like hey, I'm filling my kind of special this week and someone messaged me and it's like oh, I thought this was my friend Michael and thought dang he got old, but then I realized it was you and I was like you guys don't have to face everything that comes to your head. You know, I read messages yeah 01:32 That's so funny. No, I think he got old. Wow, look how old this guy is old. No, so I yeah, so on my thirtieth, I'm the planner in our relationship. Yeah, and so my wife obviously for my thirtieth birthday didn't want me to make the plan. She wanted to surprise me with a lot of stuff, but then she she surprised me with us riding bikes around Santa Barbara all day, which was great. 01:55 but I did not know to pack shorts or a shirt to wear for bike riding like biking and jeans. That's and that's where it's like that kind of stuff is like you know we learned some lessons in our relationship yeah during that trip. It was great. It was fun. I'm not saying that at all. It was a great time. I know I know I just like she learned that there's like yeah there's a there's a line of like I can plan all the stuff, but there's some things that don't have to be a complete and total surprise. Yeah, you can yeah yeah yeah for sure. 02:24 so cool. Well, this is going to be a complete and total surprise great. Well, not really because I'm going to you if I wearing the wrong pants for this, I'm going to so mad for this. I'm telling you right now. I'm looking at your pants. They are the wrong. Yeah, honestly, that should be an out of context intro for I'm looking at your pants anyways. 02:47 uh we let Alex decide which out of context was yeah. Why don't you do your job? Okay, so all right. How about you tell the story? I'll do the funny little bit and Alex will sit over there making judgmental faces the whole time. Yes, sir, and all those people on the other side of the wall will be grieving the loss of their friend. 03:05 is re definitely a we really don't know how to handle this. We've never had. We've never been here ever shot an episode. I feel really bad about it. I feel really bad about it. We're recording this podcast next to a funeral and I don't know how to you know, so we're going to be trying to be very respectful today and quiet. It's not going to happen. We're going to try well. Yeah, anyway, yeah, there's a funeral over there. There's a divorce over here. Yeah, it just doesn't get any better than this. We're just in that's and you know what 03:34 That's what we hope our podcast is for you. Put some inspiration shining light in the dark. We're just the world is terrible. There's divorce on this side. There's death on this side and in the middle of all this stuff, you got a comedy podcast where we never crash out. That's our guarantee. We never crash out. That's our guarantee. 03:58 I did I dive by a bit. Listen, there was a phase there where our episodes included a lot of crash outs But I want I want you to know we're trying for me personally. I'm not trying not to I'm telling you right now. I have given up I've done this new thing where I don't care anymore and it's really helping me not crash it because I would be crowd every day I'd be like, oh my gosh, and I'd be like, well, we should do this different now that was solved this wrong We should do this there and you know what I just started doing. I don't care anymore 04:27 it's really it's you know it's privilege. Yeah, you did send that to me. I sent you a screenshot. We got an email for I think an advertising opportunity. Yeah, they want us to promote their five g conference or whatever. No, it was. It was a Christian cell phone network. The network is a Christian network. Oh okay, what what does it even mean? Yeah anyways, and so I got annoyed and he was like I don't care anymore for real though for real though. 04:55 I really, as far as like some of this weird stuff that Christians do lately, I don't care anymore. I just go like, no, that's weird. Yeah, you're being weird. And I'm not, I view it. I've said this before. I view some of the extremes of American Christianity is a completely different religion than anything I follow or believe in. So I, you know, it'd be like if you sent me a thing where you're just like, look what these Mormons are doing. All right, they're Mormons. I don't care. Like, cool. Good for you. I believe something completely different than that. 05:25 yeah, and so it's like what you do isn't affecting. It doesn't affect me. It's not like I'm like I have. I'm to the point now where I'm not even afraid of being associated with you because it's like yeah, we're different yeah. You know interesting, so hey yeah, make a phone network. I'm not as like I'm emotionally mature as him. I'm still very yeah about your when you get through it when you turn thirty two. You got a couple weeks left till your birthday when you reach the wise age. 05:55 that I'm at. Yeah, you know, what do you want for your birthday? I don't know time back. 06:04 I would love my skin from my twenties. I would love all those moments that I regret another chance, you know, so I was talking about this thing we're talking about today sound like the people on this out wall speaking of that we got to keep on but do you do bring the therapist up again later because I got to talk about something about her sure sure so so you saw my therapist sure yeah love that. 06:35 you know your therapist talks about you that way to I bring Tim up later. I tell you something about him, so there's this place in London called Hatten garden and garden is this little district. You can kind of think of it. It's it's it's an interesting district. It's not like upscale shops. I was going to compare it to like the plaza. It's kind of like the Branson land. 07:02 No, I can't really think of what to compare it to because it's not like upscale shops. It's not upscale shops. But there is like there is just like a conglomerate. It's almost like Silicon Valley for jewelers. And so there's a bunch of people who make jewelry and they are like jewel dealers, but they're not jewelry stores. Does that make sense? OK, it's like the upper end of the supply chain. And it's this district that's been around for a long time. 07:28 in in the seventies, there used to be a ton of like armed robberies of these locations, but throughout the eighties, security got a lot better. A lot of those robbers. Are these like cut jewels or is this the people you would buy like an uncut diamond from so you could cut it both? Okay, so they have gold, they have silver, they have jewels and they're clear both. Yes, that that's that means each of the things you just said got it. Call it B O T H K 07:54 and the O is spelled like O L the L is always pronounced O L your washer clothes both these first of all, no worse is wrong. It's wash, but both is how you say okay both yep. Gosh, I want to throw up when I say like that uh anyways, both of those um so this district. There's a lot of people who have take my diamond guy. I got a diamond guy yeah and that's something you'll get when you're rich and uh 08:23 like me. I like I'm going to sit with my what is the manosphere? The man's here. So I got a diamond guy now. No, but when I went to buy the engagement ring, yeah, my wife has an uncut diamond. It's very unique ring. No one else has anything like it. No, but I was, you know, he was like, I'm going to this conference where I can buy. He goes, he looks kind of hard to get an uncut diamond. Yeah, he was, but I'm going to be this conference where they have them. 08:52 yeah. I was like my sounds sketchy, but all right yeah. It's like by to McDonald's. It's not even not a conference. Oh yeah, it was a uncut diamond and reptile conference. Just freaking it's not in a building. It's the parking lot. I've told that on here before about the the BMX team that my manager also represents. I mentioned yeah, we were at the very cool 09:17 It is very cool, but we were at the thing and one of the guys just went next door to a reptile conference and bought a little alligator and then I went to the management table at this conference and there was a little alligator in a tub there and I was like who did this and she's like Cody and I said don't even know who but that makes sense. don't know. Cody, but that sounds like a Cody thing to do Cody thing and also that BMX team is like five guys yeah who rode down in a van to that conference together. Yeah, 09:46 and so they had to drive back in the van with an hour. Yeah annoyed. I would be I like imagine that we were on tour back in the day. We have our little Ford Econoline and then you just bought an alligator. Is this like a full size Gator or a baby Gator, baby Gator and still yeah you got a Gator in the Gator in the van and you like you go to the gas station get some snag show. Hey, will you watch my Gator? I guess I do like that. I should have done it had it yeah. 10:16 I think very weird. It's a good thing we didn't have money on tour, because I would have bought a lot of useless stuff. My gosh being poor saved us from so many bad decisions. It's crazy dude. There's so much stuff that I would have done if I could have afforded to do it. Oh and there was a lot of stuff we did do that we couldn't afford right right. I get married and couldn't afford that paid for it on credit card. 10:37 so and a comedy special maxed out a Costco credit card for that. So please watch that when it comes out. I'm not looking at the cameras. I'm looking into the void. 10:50 no no, I promised I wasn't gonna crack that! He promised! He promised he would- 11:01 Just leave in the comments below, just say you promised in all caps. You promised. You promised. So in the middle of this district is the Hatton Garden Bank. And the Hatton Garden Bank is significant because at this bank they have safe deposit boxes. Yeah. And a lot of these jewelers. What's the 88, 90 thing? That's the address. Okay. 11:30 A lot of the jewelers in the area, take their jewels and gems and gold and they store in these safe deposit boxes. They use that. My jewels and my gems and my gold. And money. And they leave it in the safe deposit box. Right, of course. What are you supposed to use a safe deposit box for? Yeah. And so. Is this a heist? So. Nice. So on. 11:53 uh yeah. Oh yeah, I love a heist. Okay, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, So on April 2nd, 2015, oh, pretty recent. Okay, I like that. April 2nd, 2015, the staff locks up the depository and they lock it up uh knowing they're going into Easter weekend. So it's Thursday night. They lock it up at nine p.m. and you do have to something different for that bunny doesn't come take these jewels. Watch over the book and so they lock it up. 12:21 and they leave. They go home. Was this a viral video when I was an eighth grader? Was this just a video that my friends and I found? Do you know I'm talking about the difference described or like you? Yeah, I know what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, we all had a video that we watched a billion times when we were like middle school, but I don't know if it was viral or if we just did that up and you told someone about it and you're like, oh, let me pull it up and you pull it up. It's fifteen thousand views. You're like oh, that's what I'm saying yeah, okay, but there was a video of a of a rabbit, a person in a rabbit costume, just beating people up 12:51 Do you remember this video? This sounds vague. Where I was like, what is the Easter bunny do the rest of the year? It just beats people and literally like just I mean, are people yes like drop like a person on a bike and it would be like music where it's like this for music. 13:09 a person on a bike and then he's like yeah, the bunny drop kicks the person on the bike. I've or like they're like the elevator door. Is this a commercial elevator is open? No, this is just a YouTube video. This was YouTube before we got on it. You know we ruined this stuff to podcasters and content creators ruined the in it used to be good. 13:28 the best. It was a shot of an elevator opening empty elevator guy gets in right as the door is closing. The bunny is in the elevator and it blitter rates. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you see him for this video familiar. Yes, this sounds familiar. I think you're waking up a memory in me yeah. Wake me up, wake it up. It's I remember, okay, so they're going into the Easter weekend. You know that song was written by a colt. What I don't know that, but I thought I threw it out there. 13:58 I'd say that and see if it sticks. 14:03 I thought I try to start a river and so shortly after the building is locked up uh this group of masked individuals. Well, what I should say they a group of individuals approach the building wearing high visibility vest dress like workers and they the best way to rob places. One of them opens up the door, goes the alarm and disables the alarm and they go into the building. They go, they pry their way into the elevator 14:30 and they rappel down the elevator. It's a whole group of them. I think there's seven of them. I think six go inside, one's in a lookout car outside. um They rappel down the elevator and they bring heavy equipment. Which is cool. Very cool. Very sick. They rappel down the elevator, go out the elevator. This is not why the elevator was turned off. No, they turned it off. They disabled it. Okay. They disabled it so they could rappel down it. 14:57 but that's what I'm That's what I'm saying is like that was a part of the plan. This was like okay, we're going to repel down the elevator shaft and they're like we why because it's because it's like so sick like oh you are going to take the elevator. They don't know which floor we went to. I think the reason for it is because they went down the elevator and like the elevator at the bottom of the shaft. There was like a service hallway and so they need to get to the service hallway, not to the main 15:26 area that the doors were going to open up to okay. I think I don't know for sure, but I think that's what happened. They get down there. They go. They find the wall that's on the other side of the safe and they set up this diamond drill and they propelled down the elevator shaft with this thing. Yeah and this thing looks like it weighs a lot for those listening. It's a very big piece of machinery. Yeah, so this this drill is is a heavy heavy drill and the way it's it's 15:56 built is your picture in a handheld thing. That's not what you should be picturing. Yeah, no, this is like a have to bolt it into the wall right for it so it can be stable and then it's got a giant what looks like a silencer. I don't know. It looks like it. You know what it looks like is like a thing picture like a civil war cannon. Yeah, is the size of this thing. Yeah, it's here right and then that's what is you turn that and I drill some of the wall. Yeah, and there's a hose attached to it because it needs water. A continuous flow water to cool it right and it's got a diamond tip drill 16:26 And what they did is they drilled this series of three holes through the wall ah into the safe. And this is a 20 inch thick concrete wall. this took hours. is crazy. Here's the thing though. ah They got through this wall and when they got through the wall, something unexpected happened. There was a giant bunny rabbit inside. He was waiting for them and he dove through the hole, drop kicked them. 16:54 beat the tar out of all of them vigilante justice. I like the idea that it's it's Phoenix Jones and the Easter Bunny. You know and he's wearing a bunny costume, but the sleeves are ripped off. She's sick sick and he's jacked. Obviously obvious bring Easter Bunny hot and so meanwhile they're inside here drilling the hole through this wall. 17:23 and takes hours. You said hours unbeknownst and they started at what time they break in. They're broken shortly after they locked up okay, so yeah nine thirty ten p.m. uh and why is the depository open that late? I'm thinking it'd be five six o'clock. No, they close at nine nineteen. I don't know why it was open that way. They close it. Well, they locked up at nine nineteen, so maybe they closed earlier and security was still there and then at nine nineteen they locked up for the long weekend. Okay and at 17:50 1221 AM an alarm. This is unsecured at night. Well, at 1221 a they broke in and someone disabled the alarm. One of the people I know it's like not patrolled by somebody is what I mean. No, no, it's not that's weird. So at 1221 AM an alarm is triggered. Okay, Scotland yard is notified when the alarm goes off yeah and they call the security company that manages the store and security says we're we'll go check it out. So security sends one of their officers to go there and 18:20 Here's a little bit of backstory about the security system. They have a very sensitive security system and false alarms happen all the time. Right. Literally a week before this, a false alarm happened because a bug, a literal bug flew and landed on one of the sensors and set off the alarm. And so these are very common. He shows up. It's the night before Good Friday, the middle of the night. ah I guess technically now it is Good Friday. And he rolls up, he checks the doors, the doors are locked, peers through the windows, doesn't see anything. And he just says, it's a false alarm. 18:49 And he goes home. Yeah. But here's the thing. Here's the thing, too. I should say, too. They do have a policy as well that security guards aren't permitted when there is an alarm to go in alone. And so he shows up alone and he's like, I don't see anything. I don't think it's a big deal. I think it's a false alarm. I'm just going to head home. I'm not supposed to go inside and look in there. Right. I'm just going to it looks fine. Nothing's broken. Everything's OK. Locked up still. So they lock the doors behind them. So he goes home and. 19:18 Meanwhile, they're drilling through they get all the way through. They get through this wall and they have a problem. can't hear the drill. I guess no, I guess not. Yeah, it's underground. I don't know man, so the other night it's like the the night before my wife's birthday party and the birthday party is a big big task. So we're up kind of like yeah preparing last details for this party. Our neighbor is 19:45 doing a project where they are sanding down the drywall in their bathroom, which is a shared wall with our apartment. And then our other neighbor has rented an industrial carpet cleaning vacuum. And so my wife is on the floor. We're not arguing, but we're definitely like, it's time for bed. know? Where I'm like, we're sitting here going like, hey, let's finish this tomorrow. And she's like, no, no, no, no, we're going to do this tonight. And she's getting a little antsy about the party. And so we're arguing a little bit. And then you just hear, 20:14 And then on this wall. 20:17 And it was just we both just sat there like, oh yeah, we almost almost fought each other physically like that bunny. I saw her. I you know, I don't think my wife's going to hurt me when I saw her grab the knife. I saw a little tighter. I saw her. I saw her. I saw her think about it. I don't think my wife's gonna hurt me, but I saw her think about it. That's a good put that in the intro. I like, know, 20:45 I think you should put that in the intro. I'll decide which quotes go in there. I hate that I hate that. hate that. Oh man, so they draw all the way through this wall. uh 21:05 Hey, thanks for listening to this episode of things. I learned last night. If you like this show, we would love to see in our Patreon. It's a great way to financially support the show. We don't make money from this. It just helps us to pay the people who do make money from this. Like Alex and Robert, her editor, and maybe one day, one day me and Tim, maybe one day, but only if you join, only if you join, we can't wait. We can't get paid until you pay. Can't feed Tim's kid until you join. He's so 21:34 of an angel. 21:46 genuinely bothered by that. It's crazy. They draw the way through this wall. Yeah, there is so what's I was expected well on the other side of the wall. What they didn't bargain for was the safe deposit box being up against the one is bolted to the floor and it's bolted to the ceiling and so now you go drill through the safety deposit box. Well, the drill can't it's metal. The drill is not drilling breaking through the safety deposit box. Luckily, they thought that there was probably going to be some problems, so they brought a hydraulic battering 22:15 And so they take this hydraulic battering ram to try to batter ram this thing over. And it is so secure that it breaks the battering ram. so tension starts to rise similar to the situation you're talking about. There's dust all over the place from the drill. It's late into the, we're talking early hours in the morning at this point. Um, and so they decide we need to pack up. We're not going to get this done tonight. We're going to have to come back another night to try to finish this job. And so they leave. 22:44 They go through all of Good Friday, kind of reconvening, figuring out what they're going to do. Two people who are part of the party were like, I don't think this is going to work anymore. We're out. And then the rest of them come back Saturday evening. We're still in the middle of this long weekend. No one's been around. Oh yeah. So they come back Saturday evening. Same plan. Go right through the front door. Their alarm specialist shuts off the alarm. They go through the elevator, rappel down the elevator, and they bring a different set of tools that is capable of knocking this thing over. They knock this thing over. 23:13 They crawl through the holes. This is a obviously a recreation after the fact. They crawl through the hole that they dug and they ran sack the safe deposit box and this is the next morning where they broke into. Let me get the number right. That's crazy. Yeah, they broke into a couple hundred of these safe deposit boxes. I don't know exactly how many, but they broke into a couple hundred of these safe deposit boxes and they made off with about 14 23:43 million pounds worth of cash gold, diamond, silver, so about two million dollars. I don't know what fourteen million. I mean, it's probably close to fourteen million. No, it's not. The ratio is really bad. The United States is the best. I've been told I as about eighteen million dollars. Oh, okay. Yeah, so better actually 24:08 Well, think that I guess, yeah, my bad. I would have gone the other way. And so the on Monday or on Tuesday after the long weekend, they come back in and this is the scene that they find all the stuff's gone. Yeah, they have no idea what they check the CCTV. All the cameras have been wiped out. Everything's gone. The police come in. They try to start getting DNA. They discover that these these criminals had bleached the entire crime scene. Oh, my gosh. So it's completely clean. 24:38 There's nothing here to like show any any residue of them, and so that day the chief of police comes out on the news and he says we think these are very sophisticated uh career criminals um who perhaps were hired by like some large conglomerate sure pull off this job a composite, uh and so they begin this this man hunt to try to track down. It's crazy uh who was responsible for this event uh and 25:07 Over the course of 24 hours, they start to kind of piece together the story a little bit better. And what ends, what they end up being able to trace through a lot of other data that they were able to capture outside of this initial crime scene is that this was done by a group of criminals that, well, have you ever heard of the bad grandpas? No. 25:36 What? No way. This is a group of sixty and seventy year old plus criminals who broke into this this uh bank and pulled off this heist and it was nearly the perfect crime. They almost got away with it. Oh my gosh. Okay, I love all these guys. Wow. uh 26:05 these guys, these guys rappelled down. I mean this is decades of experience though. You know I'm saying this is oh yeah, these guys rappelled down that look at the okay. That is this the main guy? Is that why he's on the left? Okay, he's like the leader. Yeah, look at the guy. They call the governor, not top middle, but top left. Yeah, that guy is going to do it again. You know, saying like he's he's got his mug shot where he's just like he's like. I don't feel bad. I don't sorry at all. The only one that sorry is the one right below him. 26:36 that guy's sorry that guy's like mm. We give him a car shoved on this and then there the young gun on top the young gun yeah yeah yeah the goatee and he has any oh yeah you got to you got to go to you think you're better than or you know so and your eyes are too close together though. That's why you got to have the goatee make it seem even out your eyes both your eyes. So here's the thing this guy in the left is a guy by the name of Brian Reeder 27:05 and Brian is the mastermind of this whole event. Yeah, dude. And he looks cool. And here's the thing. This isn't the first ice. Brian's of course not. Obviously not. These are all career criminals. Yeah, obviously. He was actually known uh as uh he did a very similar crime to another Hatton uh Garden Bank in 1971. 27:32 and in nineteen seventy one he spearhead so like forty years earlier. Yes, he spearheaded this plan that he came up with by reading a short story called the Red Headed League, which okay, pull this up the Red Headed League, and this was a short story written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. It's a Sherlock Holmes like extended universe story short sure 28:00 and in the short story, I know who Sir Doyle is okay, so in the short story, you don't got a man, Spleen Sherlock Holmes to me in the short story. Sherlock Holmes is trying to solve a crime just so we're clear. I'm Watson. I love the authority of uh a kid who's like let's play 28:25 I'm Robin, I'm Robin, no, I'm Rob, okay, okay, but you could be Robin, I guess, uh so in the story, I'm Ron Weasley, you be Harry Potter Harry fine. Okay, I wanted to be I'm Hermione. 28:49 Oh, I don't be weird about it. Don't be weird about it, Bro. I'm a miney. Okay. Bro, we're 21 hours. Stop playing every time. playing. Okay. 29:06 twenty one's not too old to play Harry Potter. Okay, thirty two is no people judge you if you play. So in the red, Sherlock Holmes is solving a crime. That's why I love the red fair because no one judges you like holes is trying to stop a crime in the red. Oh he like actually that yeah okay, so in this in this story, what criminal dies 29:35 is the criminal has a basement and from that basement he drills through the war basement and tunnels like your same neighborhood. Yes, yes, exactly the same searching for treasure and so he says. What if we could do this and so in nine? Seventy one get rich by the way we are going to build like a cul de sac where all of our homes are connected yeah yeah through like a dirty ton. You know like one of those that like that like looks like a mine. You know oh yeah 30:05 gritty. So in 1971 he plans the burglary of the Lloyds Bank and specifically picks a branch at 185 Baker Street because this this branch was a block from the fictional homeless Sherlock course and so he's such a big fan. I like that. I like he this bank and 30:28 They threw some other connection, obviously, I'm the name connected to this, but through another connection, they rent two doors down a leather goods shop. And in the basement of that leather goods shop, they dig a tunnel underneath the neighboring restaurant, all the way underneath the neighboring restaurant and up into the safe of this bank. And they planned this whole elaborate thing. They had one of them that went to check in on a safe deposit and he brought his umbrella. 30:58 And using the umbrella in his arm, he measured the whole like just like he was like kind of like dancing around the safe deposit box while the guy was locking, unlocking everything for us. He measured the whole safe deposit box so he knew when we dig here, here's where we got to dig to. So you're just a worker. You're a banker guy comes in and goes, I like to get my box. I see my safety deposit box and you're like, sure. And he's like, okay, it comes with 31:26 How you doing with your umbrella? It's not even raining today. like my umbrella though. 31:34 Hey, I've got an idea. Do you want to Harry Potter? Like no, okay. And so. 31:47 and then you got to go back. Yeah, you get into the tunnel. Yeah, he's like, have we made it yet? He goes, let me see. 31:57 I gotta do the no we need four more feet on this side like what the heck I gotta do the whole dance to know it's the whole I don't know dude. It's like got hold on to know 32:11 Ahem. 32:14 No. And uh so then on Saturday, September 11th, 1971, they finished the popped through the floor of the safe, and they made out with $300,000 or 300,000 pounds. Right. ah Which was a pretty good haul. Pulled that through, went through. uh The way they ended up getting caught, and what's ironic is at 11 p.m. 32:44 there is a amateur ham radio operator nearby. We're talking about the Baker Street. Well, we're talking about big Baker Street. Okay, this is 1971. There's an amateur ham radio operator. Yeah, who's hearing some strange stuff on radio and what he pieces together is that there is a lookout on a rooftop with a walkie talkie talking to some people who are robbing a bank and they're talking about the hall fun gag to do by the walkie. Just get on random walkie talkie channels and be like now you're clear. 33:13 Oh, hold on, there's a cop rolling by. Just stand still. As a bid. Now you're good. Just keep moving into the safety deposit box of the bank that we are robbing. Somebody kill that guy. Shoot him. 33:31 Shoot him. So this guy, shoot him. Do it. You coward. This is your mom never loved you. Hey, speaking of moms. 33:45 Should we do the bit that I I told you about here today? I don't remember what I like this bit where we just make up some phrases and then we have to call people and try to work that phrase into the phone call. I think that's pretty funny. It is a funny bit. We can do it later. We're doing the after the fiddle. Okay, subscribe to our patreon for more content during the after the fiddle. We're going to call our moms. That's the stuff you should pay us for 34:14 Um, or we should call each other's moms. 34:19 Hey, hey Terry, literally never once called my mom out of the blue. I've called your mom. No, stop this. You you yes, I am okay. Whatever. I don't like this bit. We talk all the time. I'm a fan of this, so so this guy calls the ham. Oh, you're so mad at me and your mom or friends. Oh my gosh dude. 34:44 You don't get to dictate who my friends are all right, whatever man, the ham radio operator cause me and Terry play pickleball together. 34:52 they have radio guys really good cause the police is like a your mom owes me a thousand dollars because she was in a she was in a bind and she was like I need to call somebody who should I call my trusted best pal Jaron? That's how close me and your mom are and you're over here like no you're not so I know so about your mom. 35:21 you don't know. I hope your mom rob a bank. I'm giving you so many options to put in the intro Alex. calls Alex. I'm just I'm just intro farming over here, intro ranching intro maxing. calls the police and the police are like okay, whatever they like. They're just it's what what are you talking about? You let them let of cares yeah, so he gets off the phone with the police realizing they don't care. 35:49 And so he puts on his bunny costume, calls Scotland yard directly and is like, Hey, somebody's robbing this. Is there a number to call the FBI? I think so. Yeah. Like the tip line. Sure. So he calls Scotland yard directly and he's like, somebody's robbing a bank. And they're like, which bank? He's like, I don't know. I'm picking them up on radio. And he's up on a, here I'm talking about it. And so Scotland yard goes searching that night. They checked 750 banks and they don't happen to check the one that they're actually robbing. Wow. So they get out of there with their hall. Um, 36:18 they end up managing to track these people down. And so they do serve prison sentences for this. Years after this, world changes. This type of heist doesn't work anymore because of modern security systems. A lot of these criminals get into some more white collar crime. They start doing uh like taxation crime where they will buy gold and then they will sell gold to people. And then instead of paying, they will charge the full rate, including tax. And then they'll just keep the tax and never pay the taxes. 36:47 That was what these guys started doing. Like sure simple white collar crime easier, harder to get caught easier, harder to get caught. Yeah, but our ringleader of this, what did I say? His name was Breeder. ah Yeah. Reader is a Brian. Yeah. Brian Reader. He's sitting in his garden one day, 70 years old, retired, drinking tea. He's like, man, I miss the good old days. Sure. And he's like, he's like, we used to, we used to do heists. We used to do big things. Yeah. 37:17 and so he starts just kind of dreaming. What would it look like to do one last job? Sure, starts meeting up with all his old crime buddies at the castle pub, which is a sick place. Those look very cool. Every okay. I don't know if these are all one location or the same place. They're clearly not well. No, what I'm saying, not one location, but the same like chain. It's like a chain or if it's like the castle is just a common name for pubs out there, ah but every place is sick. 37:45 they get together. They go to the castle pub and they plan this job for three years. They're hanging around the pub planning this heist and obviously they know what they're doing. Like they have people who had roles. They have someone who cleans the site. They have a lot of the heavy. You can just be sitting eggs like because here's the thing will happen right is that you and I would go to the pub 38:06 and we just be sitting there. We see this group of old guys and we're like man. I hope we're friends like that when we're old yeah, dude, that's great and they're over there. We don't even know what they're doing. Yeah, we don't know that I can out we're thinking they're playing. They're just we think that they're just hanging out and they're over there just like yes, we'll use the diamond drill probably going to propel that you think we can propel. Well, I don't know if you can look anyway. Yeah, I think we're gonna 38:35 you know, there's teasing each other. They they while planning to rob millions of pounds yeah. Well, here's the thing they plan this whole thing out. They gave each other hard for me to say with all the fourth of July in my mouth. It's hard for me to say I stumbled over the freedom, so 38:59 They're glad those whole thing they have. Everybody's got specific roles. Different things are going to do. They acquired all the different stuff and very clean operation. They knew how they were going to do everything. They had an alarm guy. They had someone who's going to wipe the cameras. They had someone who's going to clean everything. They obviously were wearing gloves and they knew what how they were going to launder all this afterwards. Everything down to meticulous details, even down to and this is not a joke. They had a schedule where they timed the breaks to take their prostate medication. 39:28 Yeah, okay, so while you're drilling, I'm going to step aside and take my my uh prostate medication and I've got like a heart issue going on my, but also we should and everyone make sure you eat enough fiber. We gotta be good because you know we'll need bathroom breaks probably yeah yeah. Oh, we're doing it good Friday. It's my granddaughter's birthday that night, so 39:57 Well, during your shift, I'll take a phone call. 40:02 I love them. Ironically, I'm get away with it. They're old. Ironically, it's funny you say that because the guy by the name of Terry Perkins, one of these burglars celebrated his sixty seventh birthday during the heist. We got well obviously we'll eat a cake. We'll do a little thing. 40:23 Oh boy. Am I sick? I sure do need Tim stones. Get well quick trick. And what is it? It's simply chug an entire gallon of orange juice. Wow. I forgot. And then this shirt reminded me, I'm so glad that I have this shirt as a public service announcement, a public health service to other people around me. Do your part. Get this shirt. 40:53 shop.tillam.com 41:00 that's why he was so mad that safe didn't come down. He's like, so this is getting really this cutting into my cake time to my birthday. It's my birthday right now and I can't get into this safe. The safe is ruining my birthday. I only turn sixty seven once speaking of trauma. Let me tell you about my counselor. How did you try to really try to shove that one in there? That was, I think everyone listening, I think everybody listening was like that was a tough one. That was a tough sell. uh 41:30 Yeah, but no, go ahead. Tell us tough transition. I'll just go over here. I bring out a disagreement recently. Got the camera to his just put his camera. I gotta tell you, because I want you to, I really want you to make fun of me for this. um So pretty, I had a disagreement recently and we don't have to talk about the whole content of this agreement, but it did end in apparently I come off as somebody who is pretty 41:58 what's the word I strung? No, no, no mean cruel, no, arrogant, no insecure. Yes, but no fat. Yes, but no, I'm just guessing all the things you come across as a good dad. Yeah and an okay son. 42:23 No, no, Terry called me there today. Me and your mom we're talking. She hadn't like that. You called your son a parasite in one episode a couple weeks ago. She said she was going to call you. Did she call you after that? He did. Yeah, we did talk about that. Yeah, and then my dad sent me a stand up comedy clip of also yeah, was gaffing and being like I hate these kids. These kids. No, okay, so your wife told you that you come across as kind of intolerant. 42:51 she's like she's like if other people have ideas you disagree with, you're kind of intolerant of those ideas. I'm like I disagree. I'm only intolerant if what they think yeah is wrong. Alex made eye contact the second you said it because you do that. You do the thing you do that or someone will tell you something and you and they'll go like I think this and your first instinct is to go no that's wrong. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I'm only intolerant of ideas. If your idea is wrong, 43:18 if you if it's a if it's a subjective thing, whatever you believe, whatever you want, but if it is an objective reality, what example of what wrong idea were you guys talking about? No, no, no, no, I don't hold back now. Tim don't back off now when the cameras are on so no, no, no, no, tell us what were you talking about? She says you need to go to count you or yeah. What were you talking? He says in council you can bring this up to your counselor and see what she thinks you were talking about. If poor people were allowed to vote, weren't you? So I told your target you were talking about of poor people were allowed to vote. 43:47 I did the whole thing. You're talking about it. should let people live past sixty five, weren't you tell the whole story to my therapist? We go through the thing. We talk about it for a while and then we go through the thing. The session we got to work, got to get the end and then there's like that long pot that long silence. Yeah, I hate when counselors do that too. They've wait for you to talk and then I'm like I'm paying you say something dude. My counselor says 44:13 I'm just curious. Do you have a Facebook account named Todd? I'm just I just can't. I really love. know we've done this whole problem. I know we're in the middle of the work out. What if it's really kind of mess of like you might be died and then I have to be like yes, I do let it now back to me. All right now that's out of the way. 44:43 No, she says, I'm just curious what you think in light of this whole conversation about a goal you set at the beginning of this year. And she's like, would you like me to read it you? And I'm like, yes. And she says, your goal that you stated to me was I would like to be a little less angry and more accepting of other people's beliefs that are different than. 45:09 and she's like that is one of your goals and you're like I didn't write that I didn't say that I didn't say that and she's like no, we wrote the you're making it up. No, no, no, that was that was Todd wasn't it because because here's the thing like that argument. Bray and I still made it. was like I'm not intolerant and all you're wrong and and so I came in and I came into that session with that energy. My counselor was like so what about your goal? 45:39 I love your counselor brought receipts. That's insane yeah. She said that the very did you say back to that? I was like I was like oh shoot. I that was the moment I realized I was like oh shoot. Maybe I do. I think the most frustrating thing in this I and Alex I'm going to ask this and you're going to tell me that it's not universal, so that's going to suck, but is this universal? It is clearly isn't our relationships that 46:08 I will tell my wife something. We'll have a conversation. You know, she'll, she'll open up about something and I'll say, well, maybe, maybe, maybe thought about it this way and she'll go, well, no, you know, whatever. And then someone else, anybody else will say that same exact insight to her. She'll come home. She'll be like, ah I just realized that it was actually this that I was dealing with. And I said that to her a week ago. Does that happen to you? Yeah, sometimes I, I, 46:39 sometimes sometimes we get worried that does happen, so he's putting that in the intro. I hate you for that, but no, that is a that's a that's a because your wife was just like sometimes you're intolerant and so now you'll go home to bring like okay in my counseling session. I think and this is a completely original idea. 47:05 that me and my counselor came to together and you've never mentioned it before, but I think I might be intolerant of other people's ideas and beliefs and then we would go. That's an interesting insight that you've come to. We literally we had though I was on. I talked about it a little bit more and then there was a long another long pause. She's like I said, what would you call my wife and tell her she says, so what do you think it right now? I was like, I think he's going to think it's really rich when she hears about this goal. 47:35 did she yeah? Oh yeah, she did because breeze the type to breeze the type and you know what me and brie are pretty similar. I feel because breeze the type to when you tell her that she goes. I knew it. I she does that long. I I told you that's a that's a really good and pre impersonation. You guys don't know her, but I do. I think what she did was that she went or at least I used to yep. I've said that before too. 48:04 Yep. I've said that a couple of was another though, really interesting, another part of that same session, same conversation. That's the part where Alex goes, I've never said, yep, to my wife. Another part of that same conversation, same topic. She says, have you ever thought about that? It's interesting. This is your counselor. Yeah. Have you ever thought about that? It's pretty interesting that you feel this need to influence other people's beliefs, change other people's beliefs when you think they're wrong. And that used to be your job. 48:35 and I was like oh no, I haven't thought about that. Yeah, speaking of what used to be your job. 48:48 You 48:50 to eat. Does Alex know this? I don't know what you're saying. I don't know. There was a news article that came out this week about the church that Tim used to work at the church. I used to work at not that the other church with a very similar name in town. Okay, you've performed there. 49:06 What? Which church the summit church? Oh, I thought you said it was not some apart. Okay, another church, very so a church in Kansas City found out that one of their staff members is in the Epstein files and not like mentioned in an email. She was the facility manager in twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen, which is island. 49:31 like the of the worked on the island was the facility manager so crazy of in twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, which and this is true is too late. This is true is we knew yeah we all knew and she and just didn't put that on resume. I guess yeah she she covered that up in a resume. She oh yeah, you have in the article in the article and said that she put like she was also doing contract work for another church and that's what she put in that time. That is insane. Yeah, um 50:00 she claims that she didn't know about any of it going on. She knew what was happening before and she said he believes she believed him when he said that he changed that is her time raise, but yeah she's all over the files because like the files are like oh yeah she'll she'll book your accommodations while you're here. Here's her account. Yeah, that's not not involved. You know I'm saying that's like because there's a lot of names that people have been thrown around being like oh they're in here and it's like you look at the actual document and it's like 50:25 literally like like bark at sea. Isn't it because yeah because they had sent they had sent a comedy seller list. Okay, hey, there's a show having and his name is one of the names listed on the commerce list. Yeah, yeah, so there's stuff like that and it's like yeah, so he's like, but it's not it's not in the file part of it. Yeah, homegirl is all up in those files to I think the article said eighteen thousand mentions which 50:51 I'm not laughing. I'm not that's so crazy. I laughing at the situation. I'm laughing at the fact that you work at the church and someone who on staff finds that out. That's so crazy insane. So anyway, so she's been removed from staff. Yeah, the church is doing all the right stuff. We're not handling it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that wasn't the church. But I mean like and here's the thing that I get upset by. Okay, is that you can have that on your resume and still get a job. Well, that wasn't on a resume. 51:20 she left it off for. mean like you can have like yeah, you know yeah, yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy. That is actually crazy. So anyway, so these dudes threes and they can't get jobs because they've been roberts. The Roberts are all live. Yeah, we spent ten minutes on your counselor. That's a funny bit. What was the thing that you're intolerant about though? We could talk about it later. It's it's nothing we need to talk about here. Um 51:49 straight marriage is just freaking out straight. Just freak me out. I hate it. So these guys, these guys literally came out of retirement. Yeah, this one last job, but here's the thing. This is a movie right one last job where they go. All right guys, this is ocean seventy two, seven two. So the problem though 52:18 is these guys were experts yeah in the seventies and the world has changed okay, so there's a lot of things that they did. Oh, they got this is the reason they got caught was because they didn't account for yeah. There's a lot of things that they did that in the seventies would have been enough sure. For example, they wiped all the cameras, but they didn't realize that all of these were also backing up immediately to the cloud. So they wiped all the local storage 52:47 but we have all the security camera for oh day and then side. Yeah, that's kind of uh they also didn't account for the fact that everywhere you go is camera everywhere is cameras. Yeah, and so their lookout so they just go to the pub in their full yellow stuff afterward. Their lookout was sitting outside in his very recognizable white Mercedes and then driving all around town and his very recognizable 53:14 white Mercedes and they have an entire map of everywhere he's ever been because they can pull these files same for their fan very recognizable and I'm not trying to side with the robbers here. I hate this actually. I hate that we live in a world where you can't do anything without this. You can't do any crime yeah no no no no that's not what I'm saying. 53:35 I am not saying that I'm not saying, but it does suck that you can't get away with it. So you can't get away with crime. They also all of them didn't have any burner phones. They use their personal cell phones and we're just why would you other about the job all the time? One of them actually ah didn't get arrested with the first group of initially his son did because he didn't have a phone and he used his son's phone to text everybody and so said got arrested. 54:03 And then they found out they're like, Oh, I let my dad borrow my phone sometimes because he's too old. He doesn't have a phone. And so he texts his friends. So old. He doesn't have a phone. And so now here's what these guys could do. What? 54:19 I what could they do? Are you going to give her? Am I? Oh, just be old. You can just be like, don't know what you're gonna be like. I have. I am not aware of my surroundings. Listen, I gotta get. I need my pills. And they're like, no, sit down. They also did all of their planning on their personal computers. 54:43 And they didn't even turn on private browsing. They just like, got their computers and all the browsing security of them shopping, these drills and these hydraulic battle grants. They didn't even use DuckDuckGo either. They just completely just searched all this stuff up. And so this group of seven men got caught pretty quickly. Yeah. was able to track them down because they weren't aware of all the technological things that could get them got in this era. Yeah. Except for one guy. They all talked about this one guy that they called Basil. 55:13 and which the name said like that sounds cool at first glance right basil, but then it's like why is he called? 55:32 And Basil managed to elude the police because his only role was to shut down the alarm. And he was the alarm expert. He showed up and he supplied them with what they needed to shut down the alarm. He got out of there. And so he didn't actually get like his face was never caught on the cameras. OK, he was smart enough to put himself in a situation. He shows up full like ski mask and everything. And they're like, why are you dressed like that? Oh, what do you think? You know, what an idiot. What an idiot. 56:01 was then propelling down. Oh my one of them. It's funny you do this because one of them actually we actually caught these guys because all next door someone called in and said I hear a lot of loud grunting next door. So you're grunting guy at my gym. other day I walked in this guy, me and him alone of the gym. This guy has three benches. He's on two different machines, towels everywhere. 56:31 and not doing anything that's actually going to help him. He's old and and but he is really putting in the like everything he picks up for his big robbery loudly. oh Sounds like you telling a story. 56:59 Dude, and I could not get my music loud enough. he just, it was almost like I had to it up and he was like, ah! He was like leaning over your shoulder. uh Yeah, so that's how they got caught. Yeah, so, uh but Basil, he managed to get in and out of there without getting caught, without getting captured on any of the cameras or anything like that. And he actually evaded arrest for three years. 57:27 All these guys got arrested in 2015 shortly after the event. He didn't get arrested until 2018. And the reason why it took him so long to track him down is because this man lives off the grid in London. He doesn't have a bank account. Sick. Doesn't have a bank account, doesn't pay taxes, pays for cash for everything, including his flat. Nothing he does is traceable because he knows like this. He doesn't have a phone, he doesn't have any technology. They ended up tracking him down. He was the alarm specialist. This is Basil. is the guy. I like him. 57:54 He looks like a normal white guy in his fifties. Yeah, he's wearing literally a button up shirt with a green jacket over it. Like this guy volunteers at a church somewhere, you know? Yeah, yeah. Or it looks like he does anyway. He's got his eyes aren't completely in sync. I like that about him. Eyes aren't completely in sync. Look at that one. I know what you had a little out there. You can see it. 58:19 Yeah, it's a funny way to say that. I like I know that's why I said it that way. I'm trying to do comedy over here buddy. So they funny way to say it. Yeah, everything I say is the funny way to say it. They all go to court. Everything I do is funny. One of them tries to get a legs for pushing through a buddy. I appreciate that about you. You're looking at the clock being like, wow, this episode was getting really long. I shouldn't have done that whole thing about my counselor in the middle. 58:40 So now I'm to tell the rest of the story, but I'm over here saying funny stuff. I'm actually not saying funny stuff. I'm saying you're almost stuff. Okay. the, uh, one of them tries to get a lighter sentence. So he does do that in the middle of stories. He's trying to get a lighter sentence. So he rats out basil. No, no, no, no. What he does instead is he's like, I'll show you where I hit everything. 59:06 Cause they all took their cut and they hit him in places. I hit a bunch of stuff in the cemetery. so he takes them to where he hid some stuff, dug it up in the cemetery. And so there's like a couple hundred thousand dollars worth of things that he hid in the cemetery. And the police are like, after he leaves, the police are like, let's dig up the rest of the cemetery and see if he's lying. And they found a lot of bodies, but. 59:28 no, they didn't find. Oh my God, look at all these dead people. You got like we put into these guys for murder. We found all these bodies buried and you're like yeah, that's that's where they would be so some of them burned monsters cremated. Oh okay, okay, okay, and so they ended up. They ended up finding another cash 59:55 that he had hidden in the cemetery that he didn't tell him about. he didn't actually get his sentence shortened at all. But what's interesting is the judge oh that presided over this case found that the value of the amount of stuff that they stole would typically pull a 20-ish year sentence. eh But he said, these guys are old. Yeah, he's like, no, you're going to make it that long. And so he's like, I'm going to commune your sentence a little bit. 01:00:22 so that way if you had done this when you were younger, it's a similar amount of life that you'd be spending and so they all got roughly eight year sentences. So that way they would spend their time and then get out before they died. Was the judges that's crazy and so one of them ended up actually passing away in prison, but the rest of them were able to serve their sentence and then get out recently from this and so now they're back in retirement sure, but this was their one last job that how did basil get caught? Oh, so it's interesting 01:00:51 uh A couple other details I guess I forgot to tell you. The police, after they figured out it was these guys pretty early. But they waited a couple weeks to put together the web of everybody who was involved to arrest anybody. And in that time, they had bugged a bunch of their cars and they also found that they hung out at this pub all the time. And so they got the security camera footage at this pub. And there's too much noise in the pub so they couldn't hear what they were saying but they got... 01:01:17 uh lip reading specialist to read their lips and figure out what they were saying in there. And so what they found is that they were hanging out this. I can also do by the way he's saying purple green green lighter green. That guy's on the phone with Tim's mom. 01:01:41 So they see that they are both in their cars and at this pub constantly bragging about this heist. Not just to each other, like to other people. And there's a situation where they You know what we did, huh? We got away with it too. They mime one of the guys and they can see him clearly going boom and then like miming down the thing falling over in the case when they knocked it over. 01:02:06 And so they're like bragging in this pub that they got away with it because it crazy. They did like they got in. They got the money out. They hit all the stuff and they are they are hanging out in the pub celebrating their spoilers. They got their one last job done as the police are just watching and they're trying to gather enough data so they know about this basil and they have information about him but they're not able to track him down. It takes them years to actually track him down so they know enough about him to know how to find them. It takes years for them to actually find him if that makes sense. They waited for these guys. 01:02:34 They had planned this kind of handoff where they were going to get together and they were all going to split everything up and move it to where they were going to go launder all the stuff. And the police just waited for that handoff and they sat out there, waited for them to do it. And then they swarmed them and arrested all of them. And so these guys thought until, I mean, it was weeks. They thought they got away with it. They waited for it to cool off and then the police got them and they had no idea. And the only reason it happened is because they weren't aware of the- Because they didn't know how stuff worked now. Yeah, how technology has advanced. But literally only a couple of years after this, 01:03:04 in twenty eighteen they released a movie, the King of Thieves, which is this story okay, and this is actually a shot. Yeah, Michael Kane. makes sense like they did. Wait, who else is in it? back 01:03:15 Oh okay, yeah, this Michael Cain's the center yeah guy yeah, and so it's literally this exact story and uh I remember this coming out. I think I actually saw it, but yeah, it is a true story. That's the exact that's crazy what happened, um but yeah, that is that's these guys that came out retirement to do this. It worked really well until it didn't until it didn't. Yeah, that's crazy the Hatten garden heist or as I like to call them the bad the bad grandpa's 01:03:43 the bad grandpas. Yeah, I love that. That's awesome. Yeah. What are my favorite high summer? Yeah. And what I love most is that, uh, you know, all these guys seem like the kind of guys who play games on their phones, full volume. 01:04:01 and because they don't know how to turn it off, especially bottom right. That guy terrorizes people in public, just full volume oh slot machines. His favorite one is one where it's fiddling off. Oh, there we go. 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