The Salton Sea – The Accidental Salt Lake in California Now With NUKES™

07-06-21

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Hey man, so we were talking about slab city, hey man. I know i was. I was just jumping into it. I know what this one's about: well, hey, man, okay, what have you ever heard of salt and sea salt and the sea? The salt and sea salt in the salt and sea sultan sultan cy, i've heard their salt in the sea. No, the sultan see the salt. Are you saying? Salt? O n? Oh salt, an hopital letters? No, i that ocean, like a see, saltine, saltensee, sultan, cy, okay, okay, okay, okay, salt and see yeah, there's a body of water yeah and it's a large, increasingly saline saline, salen, sax, alon, saline lake in the desert, baton basin that we talked about called the salt and trough. Okay. In our last episode, so the last episode, we talked a lot about slab city, which is a city on the shore of the sot on the sea in this region: okay, okay, okay, this on se is i'm musin it, okay, probably shouldn't i'll get there. Okay sounded like the chief chance arbold, paying five and dollar rent and smelling, and then everybody back on as a they loaded, the real new into this plan, and it happened to regularly where they didn't just miss their target. They missed the sea straight up. That's made up things, so there's a massive body of water. Okay, it is about forty feet deep and it's about thirty three miles. Long. Thirteen miles wide o covers a service area. Three hundred and forty three square miles. It is like five times the size of lake of the ozarks. If you stand on one end of it for the majority of the lake, you can't see the other side. It is a massive massive body of water right in the middle of this desert in southern california, about fifty miles from next mexico about a hundred miles from or a hundred miles east of san diego and you otaco south east of la yes, you can bet on it. There is pretty good boating on the lake. What's interesting about this lake wow. What isn't interesting about this lake is a better question. Here's the thing is the thing yeah, so this started this was this was a recommendation from someone on our discord server, but then name of christian habit. Okay, that's his birth name, christian persite, o losin, hoit yeah! That's on our discord, which is available to patron supporters. Yes, yes, which, if you text till in to six six, eight six six, you can get access to that as well as so much more grades of things. Yes, but this was a recognition from him to cover slab city or salton sea, and i looked in the slab city and i thought it was interesting to next get episode, so we did an episode on it. That was a last episode check it out. But when i dove into the salt and sea my m had was blown okay and, as i peeled back the layers of this onion of this metaphorical body of water onion, liquid onion, if you well, it just completes actually that's a season right. They sell up the story just liquid on like what fight i need is. The consistency of tobacco is is like o you making chile e or some liquid on. It's also- and this is true part of a lot of home remedies. Yeou know drink some liquid. I need you care, o soak your socks and look whatever. Oh my gosh, so as i feel that the lay alex told us that he's got to get out of here soon and that's why tim is talking so fast just so you all know, i'm talking so fast and i excited okay done a lot of episodes today and i've been waiting for this one. I wait waiting for it, so it just gets more and more crazy as you go down the story like so we'll start from the top. Scientists believe that this has been here for a long time, not the alten sea but the area. So this giant trough. I said it was lower than sea level right. Well, that's because they believe that this was once a part of the the growth of california, the flood of noah. No, i was okay got it, so the go from california. You know where by not. This is part of the gulf of california yeah. You know where baha california is, and you know mexico. Yes in between that is the golf california. Well, they thought it went up much further in through where this desert was okay at one point at one point it dried up and is now a desert, and that's why it's below sea level, so it kind of like sunk. You know like like that thing where, like there's a yeah, you know curve and over the course of the last roughly thirteen hundred years. They believe that there was four different lakes in this region that had spawned and dried up. So over winter or wetter, more moist climates. There was periods of hundreds of years where it was raining more and so it filled with water, and then it dried up and that water that lake dried up at one point they think in seventeen hundred a got its deepest depth where it covered up to the mountain ranges on either side. The whole reasons come surrounded by mountain ranges like a about eight thousand square miles worth, and so they they think that was all filled. They think it was all fill the reason they believe that is from fossil record and also archeological record of native villages along what they think was the shore line that have tons of fish bones in the village. So i think that that was their main source of be fished in this they fished in the sea, yeah, okay and they think it they based on, and now it's only forty feet, the that's only forty fifty well, here's the thing in the nineteen hundreds there was nothing. There is completely dry completely dry, your desert bed. In fact, there was a town that in the center of the bed, called the salton salton town and they had a salt. There was railroad that get through this desert on hand. Nineteen hundred capitalism hit. You know when you know when capitalism came down, capitalism it and somebody somewhere was like you know. This is a lot of land and i bet we can farm it, but it's a desert. So we got to make it fertile, and i said you know what's near by the colorado river. They said what, if we rout the colorado river reroute it through this desert, to make this fertile, so we could farm this land, and so they bought up a giant swash of the desert and they re routed the colorado river down into this desert and started building these canals to stretch through the whole desert. So that way they could feed all these farms that they were getting ready to plant. In yeah we on hund nine hundred o three. There was a record breaking precipitation level that flooded the colorado river and it burst these canals, and it got quickly got out of control to the point where there was an eighty foot waterfall into the salt and trough, which was this giant valley that the two hundred feet bloss level, it became such a problem that they worked for two years non. Stop trying to patch this this flooding before they were able to dam up the flow by that point. It was far too late and they had filled this water value with what came up to sixteen six million acres per foot of water rushed into this valley over the course of two years, turning it into a massive like man made by accident flood at all the towns in the areas going to say so all run. All those towns are in that water, yeah they're under water, and it was a slow thing. It took two years yeah, so they were able to say now, but they was able to say i probably should go is ma. There's probably someone down there. It was like i'm staying, there's, probably somebody six, the no! I left my family to move out here. Okay, me and my r v are staying and then now they're at the bottom of that lake yeah. What's significant about this lake is after they finished damming up that that that that flowin spot they continued their work to send the canals through the region. So they could start some farms and they finite well the waters here yeah. So they finished it a happy accident yeah, you know so they started all these farms. Okay, and what happened was there was a little bit of a run off feed. They made a smaller canal that fed the salton sea of run off from the mountains right, but then they are a series of canals that came from the colorado river to the canals and then we'll go to these farms. The farms would tipene the water, be their crops and then their run off will go back into those canals and then the run off will go into the sea. The issue was the sea didn't have an out, so i just just water, it was all run off one and it and what happened? Was it's slowly transformed from a fresh water lake to salt water like or see got it okay, and so i became a salty body of water pretty quickly and the so much so that like what a what's, why does that run off was coming from these from up in the middle as up in the mountains, so that saw saw and then, like? I said before this used to be part of the ocean. So a lot of the desert floor in this was the levels underneath it were full of salt from when it was. I, the salt, is kind of flowing back through it and end up becoming the salt by a water. Well, in thirty seven i had mentioned in our last episode that there was a military base that was in the right, and so there was actually an air force, a army and a navy military base in these regions and they'd used. They use the satan sea for a lot of like water based training activities, okay activities activities, it's time for our activities put up a pop, hey everybody, hey hampers. Today we have marine exville exercises. We have landing on an aircraft character and then we got the blob pick a o for a wreck, we're going to take a vote in the calf yeah. I think you guys want to pick what you want to do today, see your camp counselor to sign up for s e, the same energy as he, these girls that go to the beach all right, and if i swear, if i see another instar caption, that's like see you later, i'm gonna go to instar and shut it down, o my god to that head corse. I know that no, i know not all the posts or this, but some of them are that's the problem yeah exactly so so the government took advantage of this. They said this is a salt, water body, o water inside our own continental, united states. We can use this to practice. It quickly became a place where they tested bombs, but not like not here's we can use as supress. Oh, we know what that means all right. Well, we'll move he's all right, yeah acting about there's the thing about testing bombs. This wasn't where they tested bombs that they like were blowing up. This is where they tested like dropping bobs like they were, like we er pack to shop about. So these were live bombs. They were bomb shells that they filled with concrete or just left empty like hollow bombs, and they would fly over. This laleo was my bad in high school in to make a graphic tea, a bit o a bombs, yeah the a s and e li boyatt great bobs, so they would put these floating targets in the lake and they would have the bombers fly over and try to do like doing target practice trying to hit that target, and it was significant because, obviously, that's not an easy thing to do- to fly over something and try to hit it with a bomb from altitude, and it happened pretty regularly where they did. It just miss their target. They missed the sea and they hit the land outside the sea. On a couple occasions, coming very close to there was a lot of towns that were in the region and coming very close to like hitting towns like people in the tempers chill and yeah. You know you're outside just you know, whatever you do in the desert and then you know here it's in a cartoon tim yeah. You do. Do you hear him yeah absolutely do ysale, you think you hear yeah they like whistle. They really do because that's the way there it's their aerodynamics, so you sound like a for to characters and is the neural any mix, so you're saying you're just sitting there and then like doesn't detonate, obliterated a whole like, but there's no pulsion, there's no explosion yeah. They said that they, but it hits one house, you know, put some massive hole in the ground. You got to start to think like if your, if you moved out there to get away from whatever life you left right and then a gigantic, i mean there's they're, throwing bricks through windows and then there's concrete bombs. Hey thanks for being here. We've got merchandise it's a way to support the show and help us do more stuff by new equipment reach more people. If you like what we're doing, i want to help us do that more. Please consider doing that. If you want to link to that all of that's going to be sent to you if you jus text till in to six six, eight six, six i'll tell you it's not a thing here, we're going to text you a lot where no, it's, not a tech service, we're not going to like send you more the mot. It's just a way for you to get a link. It's one text, that's all we're going to send. I promise you yeah, so there's multiple reports of these things, fanatis guy in towns and then quickly, bulldozers come to where that is cleaned it up the mess and then just leave, and so what was really significant about this era was in world war. Two. This is where the pilots who dropped the fat, man and little boy bombs, yeah we're trained yeah, and so they literally dropped replica ukes in this lake, and it was. It was a significant thing because they learned, while they were doing this, that they couldn't fly it altitude high enough to escape the blast, so what they had to do is they had to come and drop it and do this crazy, outur. You turn maneuver to escape the blast, so they were practicing that maneuver here at the salt and sea, dropping these giant concrete bombs. Well after the war. This was still used for this purpose, because the cold war happened and people were stressed about dukes for a while yeah, not so much any more, but i mean a little bit if you think about it. All stress you out. I love that america made the nuclear bombs and then they were like all right guys. No one's allowed to do this anymore. Yeah everybody stopped everybuddy stuff, it's like whenever you're playing tag and you've been it for like fifteen minutes and you finally tak someone e like a i got to go home. I got things over you guys, eyes, paws past cause pause. I said pause you can't tax, a poseiden doesn't all got to stop lass and you're like that's. Not the okay, that's pretty! Well what the us did there. Actually, so in the in the cold war era, they had developed a bomb that was sixteen a quien to sixteen maget tons of tant, which you might remember. If you listen to a caste. Bravo episode that casara fifteen magato, which was ridiculously huge, rumin, created a lot of problems. This was six team, maga tons, and somebody made a mistake or his home somebody when they were planning for the practice round. They had the concrete version and for some reason they stored the real version right next to it and they othey loaded the real nuke into this plane. That sounds like that is again what happens in a tv show, that's straight up, that's made up or like they said like they set something down to the table, and then the other person grabs the other one accident and, like everyone watching you homes like you, got the o yea. You know that they go into this big warehouse with their fake but and they're like. Why didn't we just? Is there nothing? We could have spray painted the word real. It's so easy to identify it's so easy to go. This is not that one. This is not yeah yeah. Well, they didn't do that, and so they loaded the real bomb in this plane to go to its practice run. What was convenient or maybe comedian is the right word, but the good thing is luckily this i had a double safety, and so the double safety was that before it was dropped, someone had a manually insert like the admission system into the bomb: okay, still full of explosives, let still full of reactive, material and explosive. It just couldn't detonate, but they dropped it into the son sea and then they noticed they said that was the real bot did. How do they notice, though they went back? They were like o yeah. I don't know exactly how they knows, but they notest so massive search on the real one. I m i'm bars to say this. I spray painted a little heart with my first initial and my crushes first imita on it, and i'm just saying that this doesn't have the arts i like to think that they went. They took it to the nevada test range and they didn't go off and they were like no, i it was empty, it fell apart. It fell by and then the other guy was like sottin saltin they wash at and they were like. Okay, they had all the big legs around they're like here's our new, but you got a long guys are got a love. There's a o, remember castle. Bravo, wait! You ready to see your bones all right, make sure you, like you, take your glacees, a okay. Here we go, you watch it you're ready, don't look away. Don't look await, put your pot away all right, guys! That's where it's going to go off just give it a second a moment just so he me a phone. Please. I need a big, a phone call. Germany can never know about that. Don't tell germany, don't don't tell me i shot yes, so so i do they go get it. A massive search went under way to find with a d the whole thing, a masser here's the thing we have declassified documents detailing the search. We have no declassified document saying they ever found it. Oh my god, he won't say, but it's pretty clear, that there is a live nuclear bomb at the bottom of the sea. Well, not necessary, live the safety is not in it, but i mean it's a nuclear bomb just sitting at the bottom of the sea, and this was a a sixteen mega, tum bom. So if it were to accidentally dentate, i mean it probably would just do a ton of damage in this area, but also it's only a hundred miles outside of la and san diego is not far from vegas or phoenix, so the fallout would greatly affect all of those major cities greatly. So, and those are the only things that matter who cares like anybody who lives in between? But man if it got to la that's a problem, you know so many people live out in the desert, but they take the risk. Okay, o what they would greatly impact. They know i get i'll, tell you who you know who would notice? You know who would notice it would altown lithe would know they would not notice, they would survive they're on the ground. They were day bold, come out and rebuild see. Somebody tell germany, i think it happened. I think they did it. So it's just sitting to the bottom of the season at the bottom, the sea, and what significant about this is remember how i told you there's like just a steady flow of run off coming into the sea and no way for it to go anywhere else, yeah. Well, a couple things are happening with this one in the water radio active. Then it well, it's consistently becoming more and more sartin. You know. At night i mean, though it's just glowing gorgeous glows yeah yeah, god, zilla comes out every night of the water. I was with detail, you didn't he is left out. No, so the the the salt content is significantly increasing, so when, when it first became salty, obviously it was just a couple like points of a percent. Today, it's at five point two percent saltiness, which five point. Five is the point where most biologists say: nothing can survive in the god water. So it's getting very close percentage of the ocean. I don't know like two or three: i don't know it's really not much guest. I hate the years like i don't know to try. I o, let's find out three point: five. Okay, it's close. It's called that educated guess, no big deal, so he just don't his water bottle out of said, probably the only way to respond, like the thing that i just said made me so mad that i a made me so angry that i had to physically responsible water on my be the towel or i aprite, that's a i roars. I ran a cut that out and pretend it didn't happen. I got head he's. The thing is ironing to me dripping on my forehead. I got sweat it and the gonies chest just sweat, it's hot it's summer, it's summer, man, summer, vives, okay, so is ironic. You said that though, because that was the original solution was when this happened. The engineers like it'll dry up, it's the desert, like the lake, the giant, see that they just created a i: u r it didn't anyways, so the the it got salty and salty and salt here right, part of that run off was the fertilizer from the farms. The unintended con consequence of this was that it fertilized the lakes which birth, giant algy blooms in the lake s and also is just full of fertilizer, which is not good rightso. Some people have this theory that the salt and the fertilizer is is eating away at the bomb and maybe the other bombs, because they there's theories that there's probably more than one time that this happened with how easy it was for them to do this with one nuke for them to do this, one every what? If here's the other thing? What if, when they went and drop those bombs in like japan, they so the ru just gigantic grass people mean, like the sirens, are going people like, oh my gosh, and then he just how anticlimatically t and then like, and then everybody back home is like the like check, the the hearts on the one and the in the storage that yeah that's rough i'll, tell you o those didn't blow up, but i'm about to yeah. So so some people theorize that the the outer casing of this bomb as going to go way right and the radio acto material has been leaking into that's what i like yeah. What's there's merit to it because all on the shore, if you take a guy or counter there's above average radiation levels, it's not enough exposure for it to hurt you now, but there's another way. I can get you which we'll get to in a second. Do you think that's what they were picking up whenever they're at the bottom of salvation mountain they were like this is toxic ground, actually, there's. Actually, that might be accurate. I didn't think about that, but could be someone else is like no. No it wasn't. It just depends on who you ask yeah honestly with the government with most ended that one yeah, but maybe we did the second one and they're like well yeah, it's fine, it's not toxic, not the tax is care everything safe. So because the navy is not the government yeah exactly so here's the thing in the s while the testing was still happening, somebody an investor- if you will, because that's what they were, saw an opportunity here in the saltons. They said: hey, look, here's a giant empty piece of land, pretty close to palm springs, that's doing great all right and they said, but this one has an ocean like a literal ocean, you can't see this side, its salt water, as beautiful blue water, it's great to swim in there's not much of a current, so you can vote in it really easy and he said opportunity ox. So he built a resort and a golf course and a yacht club and then a couple other guys said: hey i'm going to do that too, and this sea just got lined with tourist traps. Oh no, and it was a desert already too so the whole shore, this thirty three mile long lake, all the shores are already beautiful, pristine beaches like ready made for right tourists, and so it became the tour destinations of tourist destinations s and s. This is where local californians went for vacation because they were like we're not going to go to the beach here because we lived there, so they went out to the saltensee. I want to go to a different beach. I want to go to a note, be hired to this be yeah, so it became a massive tors destination. They built a theater and out like what an outdoor theater an ampatheater. If you will has woe and the beetles came nat king cole came like big name artists. They were bringing through and they made this a. They made this the spot and it was for years even so much so that a few of the investors pulled together and they dumped a ton of fish into this lake, so much fish so much fish that it became a world renown, fishing spot and the rumor had it that you didn't even need bait. You could cast a baitless hook and catch a fish because it was just floods to medic in there and those fish are magnetic as stick ter. It's the radio act, never even yeah. You really goin to pull them apart. It's yea and there was so many fish that the fish attracted all these different birds from all around the region, the mountains and on the other side of the mountains, the sea and so there's just sea goals and birds, and it also became a world renowned bird watching spot. And so now you have tours trying to find a beach. And then you have a fisherman and bird watchers traveling from literally around the world. To come to this salt, an see for one of those three things and to enjoy a fabulous vacation wow you could ruman. You could do the whole family, you know dad's into fishing moms in to bird watching and kids are into sneaking off and running around and the a roping bombs yeah yeah. You got ye older brother who's. A coming to find this bomb. Do people like dive in this die or dive dive like they peemple liting yeah? I don't know, i guess i guess i imagine if people are swimming in it, that's a that's. What a kind of curious about the whole time was, our people like people were swimming in it this whole time. I don't know if anybody was scuba diving, but i would assume like it was a towards strap. If people are scooping anywhere else, they probably were scoading here. You know yeah, that's what this place was. It was a tourist trap. Hey just popping in again to say: are you tired of advertisements? Are you tired of us not talking about the subject that you click the link to listen to? 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In the s, there was a very significant one where an entire species of fish in the lake was killed off by a disease that ravaged them out, and it also killed off a ton of birds who were eating those fish that were diseased and they would die in the water and they would all wash up on the beach. It was so significant that someone who worked in the area said that they had an incinerator burning carcasses. Twenty four hours a day for three weeks to clean up the the damasius, have the speech for a family trip right and then just fish after fish after fish is just washing up literal piles of carey carcie, look at all these car ki, and so so. The decline of marine life was catastrophic. These algy blooms got larger and larger because the furie just kept feeding them, and so it became this thing where all the marine life was dead and the salt levels of it started getting so significant that the the water itself began to smell like rotten eggs and the fish were dead, and so you had dead fish and rotten eggs. Whether t was the smell of this whole sea, they put on the panfers and rotten aks and and then nuclear radiation on top of that right, possible new possible, clear radiation and in the s the kind of nail in the coffin for it was there was this rerouting of a lot of the water that flowed through those canals to san diego and los angeles, because they needed more water, yea, and so a lot of those farms went not a business because they couldn't feed their farms any more, which decrease the run off, which was sustaining the lake at its current level. So so it started to recede because it was evaporating. How deep was it then? I don't know how deep it was then, but i do know that estimates right now say that i it's three hundred and thirty square miles right right now, yeah three hundred three hundred forty thee squirms, it's estimated by thousand and forty to have lost seventy five square miles in jeez water mask, has the the evabody the evaporation all of the i mean. I guess you kind of hope that in the next forty years it evaporates all the way- maybe it one of these ole bombs will stick out here's the problem with that, so all of the sand that was blow. So it's back about fourteen or fifteen feet as far enough, maybe even further in some areas, because far enough, where the yacht clubs and the docks all of those are completely above ground, now, they're, not above water at all any more. So the shore line is way out there. Okay and here's. The problem with this is the water that the the what used to be the sea floor is heavily contaminated with really high salt levels, radiation, the alge blooms and the whatever the dead fish were dying of, and then all sorts of other mineral deposits, and things like that now that it's not underwater win comes through and craze these dust storms that are kicking these things up and blowing them across the whole region. Okay and spreading all of the contaminates that are within that ever were so people in the area pretty much everybody who lives in this entire basin has asthma and they think it's a direct correlation to that effect, and it's become such an issue that in two thousand and twelve there was a big enough dust. Storm that blew over the mountains and into la and in la they were people could smell the dead fish and the rotten eggs now and la in two thousand and twelve after that. Storm and geologists believe that if this continues to recede, those events will be more and more common and people in san, diego and la will experience to that pretty regularly with these storms that all those dust froms over the mountain and five thousand dollar rent and smelling dead fishes in rotten eggs. Yeah that's contaminated, like like a health risk yeah who cares about the health person it's more about like the now yeah. It smells it's bad as stinky, sticky and stinky. So so it's becoming a very environmentally big issue and there's not a lot of ways to fix the problem. Roosy, it's even if you do find the bomb and remove it like it's yeah, it's solved. The yeah image has been done. Yeah it's far beyond repair. At the word happen of those resorts are those still out there. They are alll like ghost towns, so tour stop coming so there's massive ghost towns, and so these are also squatter type. Villages because sees resorts were like ridiculous, yeah yeah exactly and there so those have become like squatter towns as well. So you have slab city as like one of the more famous ones, but this whole region is like just doted, with these squatter villages of old. What used to be resort towns that are now places where the down tondo and homeless populations end up just kind of squattin, yeah and surviving out there and building crazy, like a lot of them, are building these crazy buildings out of like paletot and stuff like that, but they're surviving out there one interesting little side bar the. If you ever played granted otto five, the desert area r. This is the desert side of the map is the salt and sea and the towns that surround it. They have salvation mountain in the game. They have the the makeshift slab city out there. So all of this is in granted thought a five. So that's interest is rated him yeah. If you swim to the bottom of it, there's a nuke. Well, i actually think that if you sing to the otom of it there's a uf- i don't remember, but there's something o the real yeah well now at a drop drop of water. Yeah pole, ten, your eye o rough, so there's been a lot of proposals on how to solve the problem, a including my personal favorite of just building another lake. That's a horse shoe that raps around the top of the lake that they could use defeat it. And then what, if hear me out what? If we just you know, did it again, but around it it's like a little. It's like a little water hug. Have you seen the neck pillows? What if we is like put a gigage water, lak, no hello, yeah! So here's he that's how all of these solutions were received as, like that's a really big his idea or yeah. It's way too expensive like right, hundreds of millions of dollars. It's not billions of dollars. Tost off this profit, do what right yeah to just make this less of an environmental resource. This problem off till later yeah, pretty much so the closest it got to getting solved was they were going to build a series of canals out to the gulf of california, so this could have an outflow. So that way it won't be just standing water, basically and eventually over time it would all wash away, but that kind of helps solve that problem and then they could treat the land around it and they were close to getting that as a three hundred fifty million dollar proposal they're close to getting that, but the proposal passed through it passed and they began construction in two thousand and seven, which then the great recession, and so it was never finished. So this still, the problem still has n't been solved. Nobody's actually ever been able to fix it and there's been multiple attempt. Since this, but it just it, hasn't, been fixed, it's getting salt here and saltier fish are dying, debt left and right, it's. It is radioactive like literally radioactive and to make matters even worse. This is its right on top of the sanies fault and it's two hundred feet below sea level. So if the bomb goes off well, here's what's right on top of that fault! Well, that is true. I haven't heard anybody say that, but that's that's true. I don't know if that would be a problem, but probably it would problemy from problem. What significant is they have like earthquake storms here, where it's like just repetitive earthquakes, because it's so close to the fault? Oh s like they have these bouts of earthquakes. They also have. It is so close to the lava shelf that there's parts of it where it's so hot that the earth just turns into these mud. Volcanoes they're, like these gray mud volcanoes, where they just like the mud, boils over and just piles up and creates these things that look like salvation mountain, like multiple stories tall, just molten mud, weirdest thing, it's a weird place so and the water is five point: two percent salt right yeah. So everyone there does have the salt wife sticker a tal. You super start, it's part of the it's part of it goes in with it yeah. You know so yeah. So it's it's drying up. It's expected by the year three thousand to be gone. They think it's going to completely evaporate, but that won't be the co. The pros brothers. Basically, we've been to the year three thousand de now much as change. I say the sultan see where they live on a water and there's no nokes down here. So they know that's. They didn't mention a nuke in the sunday i feel like they were a say what a said something if it was there yeah. So there's there are people campain trying to fix this, but even if it drives up, it's still a massive problem, because now you have all that radioactive contaminated dust. H, that's going to be blowing around that valley and then into the greater cities across of california and arizona and nevada and new mexico and mexico. It's it was going to become a pretty pretty major problem if something isn't done about it. But what i love the most about this is that the california parks department is attempting to revitalize the perception of the saltensee still smells like righting still so bad honestly. She smells like rotten an still covered in dead fish. If you got coven, you can't smell, but then it's great here's the thing. If you go to one of their park, shelters in the salency area today, there's still will be an attendant there and they will give you a tour that ends with a film and the film talks about the health benefits about bathing. And it's one of those reels. It's a guy tra, yes yeah, but no. They literally talk about the health benefits of bathing in the sultans and how good it is for your skin, which is anybody with a brain, would say, i'm not getting in that water, but they make all this reiteration about. Your scheme will be gtana in la your skins, got yeah yeah, you're, tired of being pale. What about me alila so this? What was it like the in where they would rub it on their teeth right, because it makes their teeth glow when they were working with like nuclear weapons? Oh and they would eram, they would put stuff on their teeth. That's so weird mes it making like glow in the dark kind of yeah it made him seem bright and stuff. That's crazy! Yeah! I haven't heard of that. That's nuts little non trivia. This was actually contributing factor to the construction of the hoover dam because it slowed the flow of water into the salton sea because they wanted it to evaporate. Originally lover dan was really built for power and to reroute the colorado somewhere else, but this was a contributing fact that they said hey. This would help with that problem. As well, so that's this part of why the hoover dam is there but yeah, so this at on see one of the craziest places ever because you know it's a nucas site, a tours trap and a see that's literally falling apart and it's the fifth time. This has happened that it's grown and evaporated over the past third thirteen hundred years, because i just keeps happening in history. This is just the first time that we did it and then we made it way worse and we were like that's a problem that keeps happening, but you know we. What have we made it a lot worse, that's i mean i feel like that's how american government walks and everything yeah things are pretty bad here. It would be a shame if something happened. If you shame, if it was way worse than that, shame of something you know we just ruined it more, we could make this was kind of how it goes, though it's like this is already bad. I mean how you know, i mean you know we're not hurting it or not, yeah we're just making it a little more interesting. You know that is interesting, yeah, so that's connected to slab city yeah, it's right next to slab city. It's all the same area! This i mean it's in the same desert that burning man and cotil happen at so i mean, if you ever smell ronan eggs, a burning manorite la it's, the lake, wow yeah, so yiks, that's a the sultan sea man, wow yeah, an a that bombs not going to explode. Why not? Well i'm just thinking that if it did like all the stuff is so like worn down and everything yeah all it would do is, and you would just hear o her anyway, i trying to fit of. I o

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Slab City – Welcome to the Lawless Californian Town

06-29-21

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Hey Man, what's up buddy pal, have you ever heard of Slab City Slab City Yeah? It's a barbecue place, downtown right, yeah yeah! You can get big old slabs of ribs from slab city, big old slash. I mean that we saesson big old, lasars. Okay. Well, that's cold for a preparation of you. As you came from Colorado. That's my culture! Oh right! That's where I live here. We have ribs in Colorado yeah, but you know are like that. We talk people and now you don't. We sat around here, okay, okay, and so you can't just come in here and start talking like you grew up in misarranging, for you, like, you grew up going to a school where they got bring your horse to school day list. You grew up where you like, like you, grew up where you had to ask your Mama. If that girl was your cousin before you declared, you had a crush okay. Is She my cousin Mamma? She, my cousin, your doning, it again my Mama to my cause? If you would like to come on down to slab city, because this is how we talk- We've never done a part to God, your H, a thing of a dig, I got twenty, the officials to the new person said. No, I don't want this experience for our listeners. I don't want them to hear us. clapity ideas for gin, dictators things yeah acity. What is it have you ever at? So yes, Slib city is a very interesting place. It's in, what's known as the Sultan Troth of this Sonoran Dean, draft salt and trough. That's like a hipster coffee shop, slap city right next door, a sultan trough right, yeah yea! It is the second lowest point in North America. It it's at two hundred and thirty eight feet below sea level. Okay, so pretty deep! What's the lowest point in North America, Death Valley, my life, my whatever you are at any time. That's the lowest as Osprey are the low point of this country. Aren't you so your fault? What are you sitting like that? You got a hit, a problem. I do well this chairs crooked, and so I'm trying to counteract it. So Death Valley is the lowest point. How is Death Ay? Oh Gosh, I don't know we can look it up. How low is too low hello? Can you go deaths at two hundred and eighty two people? I see the ile, I swear so we digna bad. We two hundred and eighty three. We just dig a big enough hole in slab city yeah. It honestly doesn't have to go much deeper hold on that say it's the lowest point. Slab City is two hundred and thirty six feet below sea level. Yea. Two hundred and eighty two, that's the lowest point, blosio level. Yes, the lowest land like. Obviously, if you a weeks, go lower, yeah, yes, so it's the lowest like surface land. Well, where does the bottom of the Grand Canyon said not that low? That wasn't what I asked Timothy Sorry that wasn't what I asked him, the think. Yes, I could understand you. The thing that I asked was how low was the Grand Canyon here, I'm pulling it up. Okay, two thousand feet above sea level. Oh really, yeah, because I mean the top the green canes at like six thousand feet. Above sea level already know that yeah, so they got a lot of room to go down in the Grand Canyon, but this does it because the top of it ever sent time at sell yeah. Have you yeah? Why did you ask what I mean at the beach? Just is that sea level that's just hanging out of the sea level to day I'll. Do it it again. I mean that's, not cool, I, so you know I really don't try to make like you know, political stands or whatever, and I'm not like trying to champion causes on our podcast. That's silly, so slab city there was in this region. There was a military base called Camp Dunlap, which was started in on thousand nineteen thirty seven and ran through the World War. The second one part to world war part two and was in operation for quite a while after that, eventually over time, the use of that military base like did it completely diminish, but they decreased yeah, and so they made it significance smaller, but left a lot of their installations there. It's kind of k the thing behind Evangel yeah actually really accurate, use to be a pretty big base. Then they sold part of it. Now it's a Christian college where, where kids don't make eye contact with each other, because they're afraid to sin, that's actually. Strangely yeah, it's part of it's a national guard base, part of it's a Christian College, part of its an elementary school part of a Aitin cast yeah, which actually started our pods yeah. Did it really yeah? It was the day that we were on the couch and you went and you re a the Pithy and Knights, or that did I do a pithy and nights episode, no hat just ing. Maybe I show Yo one for our one hundred in we haven't some thin already. I don't even know how many episodes I don't think we're anywhere near a hundred. I think we're like sixty something total. Were he what thirty? Okay, anyways so go later, so the camp shrunk inside significantly, but they left all their installations there and a little while, after that, around s the s O s, a bunch of retired fets who were stationed there were like an I missed. Those days like you know what you remember the good old days yeah. I shows a waiter, know you're in the good old days, while you're still in them yeah, so they just kind of got together with some of their old vet friends and said: let's just go retire out there, and so they win slave city yeah. They went over to the slabs, which were just the foundations of the buildings of the camp and started like parlor. I vs there and we're just like we live here now, which is frowned upon when you do it in a neighborhood in Kansas City, I rolled up my handeck all my windows down middle of the night. I live. A Brood Watch comes up and they're like neighborhood. What what are you watching and yeah? I was like hey what you guys watching their ring door. Bess, that's it that's all they're watching! Is there ring door bells, and I said I said: Hey what's up and they're like what are you doing and I was like I live here now and they said well. This is my back yard and I said Ha. This was your backyard. I live you. This is now my I now swab city, the second one, the second part a yeah. So it started out with his shirts they're squatters, pretty much yeah pretty much there R V squatters. So it is for some reason, squattings a little water case. You have an RV right, yeah like like, if you have an RV people like is just a traveler, but if you and you don't have a r Avola, what is I I kate? There was a traveler going by okay, but for real like you, if you pull up, you can walk up to a location and just try to stay the night there and people will be like you can't sleep here man, but if you drive up in an RV saying, location people like that's cool, somehow they only make or vein works. I do anyways, like you, can't just lay down in a walmart parking lot someone's going to come. Tell you hey, you can't sleep here, it's true. You do yeah and ere a yeah yeah people are like that's cool, that's okay, man, so anyways. So it became like a little RV community. You could try for retires I'll, go see, store tonight honker, so they started moving out there over time. It became this big transient. I don't know if I want to be home this community, because they're not homeless, really K, but just a bunch of people started moving there. Mostly people, mostly retirees, but a lot of like folk artists and hippies is a remunerate sun started. Yeah. Actually, ironically, is not far from Coche or burning man like it's in the same desert that those places that those things happen. I was really yeah. So it's the same desert valley where those happen yea Yep. So this table is not big enough for you to keep doing what you're doing by the way black you're like a lounging, and you can go at your talking about your foot, which is in a gross flip block today, not gross footfirst yeah, which is Gross Oo, is Gross. Thank you, they're the same thing and you just keep you turn it you're, like I don't know if an me can watch this video, but you're literally doing this over and over yeah, I'm just yeah and your foot is chosen. It's just right on my leg and I I thista up tried. I was like I go, I could tell I could tell you were trynor yes and I was adjusting to your adjusted just harder Li. Try To let you continue your sentence. I don't want to. I don't want this experience for our listeners. I don't want them to hear US squabble. We cable all the time. So slap side grew and grew in Grein grew. How big did it grow to re? To me? That's how hovel start actually yeah I'll shut up with their carves who's or me is this. So the community grow grow Y. AH you're fine go ahead. The community grew that strokey just have. The community grew and became this place by Oh gosh, the mid s where people were. It was home like they lived there yeah. They were like. I live in Slab City, and so they were at a Po boxes. No, so it's as in mail to R V, you don't doesn't have an address. You said Telime, there's! No, you telling me Steve Yeah my mail man, yeah, can't hunt down on ARV you're, not sure his name is Steve, O his name, Steve You're, not sure that his name is Steve. Erney, don't know you think you know you don't know, don't do this, you don't know. My name is Jaron. I'm been letting you believe that I did that thing where you started, calling me that and now I'm committed, so I've changed my whole career to be charing. Myers yeah, it's us so because when we were in Scott Hall you re like Hey, I'm Jason and I was like Sori Jaren Ye and I was like yeah because in that psychology class next to Stevie and Reagan Yep now my rigour Ifen Reagan, but you wanted to be your age. Don't worry about that and then different times, and actually I'm only attracted to girls, name yeah. What's your type Reagans Yeah Yeah? It's just you know I mite like I was terrible and then I just sprinkle in some Oregano Yaks. So anyway yeah. You call me for the wrong name and I committed so you're, not a hundred red. Don't do this to me, don't like so doubt. In my mind anyway, you're telling me my Mama can't hunt down on RV, I'm sure you could hunt down in RV, but most our V people are like that's too complicated a right when I have it my rvfinae address on it. I just cockit the side yeah. So whenever you order something, you have the number he is like. Oh what's Trotar we on today you check this tree and you're like Oh, that's. Yeah Yeah and then you're like we got to stay here till the mail gets here. Yeah and the neighborhood watch comes and they're like hey, listen, my yard lie. Well, Hey I'm expense. If it comes here, will you call here's my number? Will you call me I'll just drive back my house moves. Yours does make that teacher. I know where to find you, as you can't find me, because you know the yeah a thing, because the whole recreational thing roaming vehicle. Is it Stapfer Romeias? No, it does yeah. It's recreational. You don't know that. I do know that I'm! I could not be your, but you don't know that. Yes, I recreational vehicle turns out. You were right. I guess maybe we should trust our natural instincts. Okay, whatever man his name, Steve, it's not an instinct, it's a knowledge and he Nesta. You said Hey, ask this. Guy Was name she up o talk every day. He's got an unfair advantage. He sees my name on my home. Yeah he's got your mail, he's reads your mail. He reads my mail yea if he will anyway so they're out there in slave city they've developed it they've got a mayor yeah, so they caught no, they call it the last free place on earth to there's no government. There's no government. There actually is literally nothing. So there's no government there is no rent, there's no property ownership, there's no o o to as it is what I a structure, because I've seen these things popping upon tiktok right, yeah, where these people have the IO, communes or yeah, but your commune can't exist apart from the infrastructure that exists outside your commune. Well, here's the thing these guys are pretty self sufficient. The only thing that they rely on the outside world for is water. That's ground level in it like that's, not self sufficient. That's! What I'm saying is that you're great if water keeps coming out of the spicket, if the if the the infrastructure is already in place, you're relying on the external yeah yeah, that's true, you're, not wrong yeah, so I mean you can say yourself sufficient, but unless you're literally living off the rain water Tuchao, then Youno right. There's no rain there, it's a desert, so that's what I'm saying they go in: they go in and they buy and they're taching all that water from the coast yeah. So it's got a white claw in it. It's come from La that there there is dumb and white all in the water. That's all they're doing you know yeah. We ran out of water years ago out here just but we do have reservoirs white cloth because you know truly came took over. You know everyone's going to sell her. Now people abandon white clock in two thousand and nineteen and now now we use it to water. Our lawns, the grass is dead. All of O Goss is dead. It's weird! I don't know why for a while, it cared purple. That was that was terry cool. It was a pretty cool thing, a lot of tourists for dad all of them did to all of them ten again and then they died, so they never cam back. So I'm saying because I see I hear you I take talks just like they're, like Oh yeah, we're living outside of the you know we're our own. We set our own rules were own masters, all the Sufis like okay, SORTA, you're, arrogant, yeah. Can't you can't exist without the infrastructure. That's already been put in place. Yeah, that's true! That's true! I mean I agree. I have respect for communities there like self sufficient self, sufficient yeah. Where are they yeah, they're, literally Autogram Yeah? These guys are pretty well of to God. There's no electricity, there's no utilities, there's no running water, so they like going and by gallon drums of water from the nearby town. Occasionally they'll go in to buy food, but for the exact rose, yeah you're going and buying food you're going in and buying what you're going into. But for the most part I, with the exception of those one gone slab city for those things, but the exception of those two things really: nobody. There works they just a lot of them. Do Art or other things in the city like there's a guy who at you're describing is literally any retirement community. But not it's not just retires anymore. Just a lie telling me about whatever that jocolate in Florida is so so you think those those retires are driving into town to buy a ten gallon drum of water is the same as the retires in Florida doing a parade for whichever person they're voting for with on their golf carts. Okay, all right! It's the same thing you know, that's yeah did US run the rest of the episode now you're like well. I guess this is impressive. Now they're to realization I was like man I was like. I was like honestly. I that's a good point like retire. I is going to sound so retires. I would love to clip this out of context. If you could write this down, go ahead, there's a thing they're, not contributing to society anymore. So should it should they be a lot of vote like? Should we let them glad you said vote, I thought you were going somewhere else. I thought you're gonna be like soul. Do you allow to live any more? We just yeah. We might little have yeah you don't Conte anymore. You quit working yea, happed, Yeah Bomb God m yeah, so anyways yeels ideas, freaking dictators, it's a really good system tim. If you don't contribute he's to think. If, if you can't vote until you're eighteen years old yeah, then why should you get to vote past? Eighty like there should be a cap. You know like. If there's a early side, there should be a late side. You know you know it's just in what whatever you tried to physically sneak out of that one. You went e whatever that steak. It away from this hey thanks for being here for things alone last night, if you want bonus, content, early access to episodes and a whole lot more, including a discord channel. We have that available to our patron supporters to sign up for that and for or info text till in to six six, eight, six, six, okay, anyways all right here, here's a thing: okay, here's a thing: Let do this: Where Is it good? Is it? where? Is it good in industry? Interesting? Not yet let me first lay in the foundation, okay, but it's a full full community yeah, it's a community with its all with so there's a guy there who runs a internet. Cafe he's got a Sol bunch of solar panels and batteries that he's hooked up to these soller panels, and I guess here's another weird place. Where he's not sufficient is he gets Internet from some Internet satellite Internet service, but I he flicks those on in the morning and he makes coffee he hates coffee, but he makes it for all of his guests and then they can just come and use his internet. But but what's interesting is there's a lot of so it's not as old people who live out there. It's all these INSTAR influencers too yeah they're out there, just like Oh yeah. No I'M! I work for a company they're based in Phoenix, but I live back, but I live here in Slab City and then they just work at this weird tent coffee he was interested in buying is entrail. I anybody wants to yeah, but here's. I think nobody there actually like there's not really an economy, because they just give all this stuff away from free or take donation or like they'll cover the cost. So like there's one guy, there's one guy in town who has a shower, and so everyone uses that show everyone us that show they just give him three bucks to use for the gas and the water that they use, because he hooks it up to a big water tank that he goes and gets filled and then propane to Er to hate the water propane yeah. What are you looking at a pro pain that was normal propane as your bodies of spots on my body? A sorry about that audio listeners. Take that out. I hate hearing those noises, yeah, that's rough, but yeah so but other than that everything's free, like they have a library free. They have a night club called the range free and people just yeah and the way it works is it's like. If you want to do it, you do it. If you don't want to do it, you don't do it and it's just kind of this very big. Like society built on like do you unto other big, I mean how many people you ask me live out there. Okay, so he's what's interesting about. It is there's about a hundred fifty year round residence, but in the winter they get what they call snow birds who are people who are escaping the the Colt and the one ever heard this term before okay shut up so they the snow birds go south for the winter, and the population rises to aver on four thousand, a yeah, so big community through the winter months, but the summer monts only about a hundred and fifty people stay there year round because in the summer average high out there's a hundred and twenty five. So it's a hot. I the only people who stare at the methodics yeah. Well, no! So we're on a case. Do they have place. There is a sheriff in the area, but the sheriff in an interview said that he largely leaves lap city alone for a couple reasons. He says one: They have a pretty strict moral code, so he says they honestly kind of govern themselves. He's like there's, usually not really any serious crime out there he's like there's a lot of drug crime and like drug use is like, but I'm not super concerned about it because they don't harm each other and he was like so so. He was like he's like honestly. Most of those people out there. This is kind of a last, a last resort, place for them and his like so he's like I'm not going to make the lives harder, and so they kind of just let them do their thing. If every once in a while border patrol will come through just to make sure nobody there is illegal and then, if something serious happens, they know how to reach him and he'll come help in a serious issue, but for the most part they're a big Monte. There is like just do whatever you want, yeah and as long as it doesn't affect other people. So I watched a documentary about it and it was really interesting. There's kind of this, the guy who runs the Internet cafe today is kind of like the leader of the town and nobody really established that. But everybody really reveres them and listens like to whatever he says. Yeah and what's interesting, is the methodics in town? Usually don't stay long because their drug use impacts the other townspeople O and because it impacts the other towns people. That's when there's a problem yeah and it's interesting because it's like you go hey, you can't do that yeah. It was. It was the most interesting thing because he literally just came to her camp like in this. He kicked one out in this. He came to a camp and was like hey he's. Like he's like, I realize, you're addicted to this drug and he's like at the end of the day, you should be able to control this and he's like, and this has happened over and over again, that you have kept us all up like three: am you were strung out and making all this noise and he's like? That's just not cool for all of us here, so you got to go this just not cool. No literally you colbe more cool. It was literally that even Keel, and he was just like you got to go and the girl was like sobbing, but she like s like okay and like packed up and just left and like be like what do you and do if she refuses? I don't know like no one's done that, yet I don't know, I don't know, I'm sure, I'm sure it's happened. Let's do it. This is our slap sitting. Oh Hello, eevery name is John from I'm striten I'll bring cargo. If you worship me, I am God I don't want you to like get all I confused. You know, but you should probably tell your kids. They don't worship me. Things are going to be big you're going to go. Oh for them, so that's actually a good Sagwa. The town is pretty famous, obviously because it's like this, like squatter town yea, but because it has these very interesting and quirky, neighborhoods and kind of locations and honestly in neighborhoods, yeah and honestly, if you listen to the list of these, it sounds like the locations in a video game like an open world video game. Listen to this, I'm just going to read you the list of areas so there's poverty, flats, Niland Heights, Little Canada, that's where all the Canadians say: Yeah Slav city singles drop, seven slabs that hold on slab city singles. First of all, this sounds less like town names and more like bowling team names. I can see that I can see that drop seven and drop eight there's the coliseum, which is actually the two big water storage tanks that they used to have that they ripped the roof off of and just crafted, and I can't find anything that says this, but I strongly suset suspect that they just have battles in there because it's called the coliseum. It's just a giant open air. What I be is the only thing that makes sense all right, because a e all right, it's covered in like war graffiti yeah, you know the they at TOR staff out there. That's where they settle all their issues. They say: Hey, listen, lady, Sam you're, freaking out until three in the morning. Here's your choices, you can either leave yeah or you can fight Samson at the cause in the Coliseum. Whoever wins become Samson, that's you know, that's the Dat's like to a Sampson. You know, and I mean so there's always just this is this- is the Samson from two thousand and seventeen to two thousand and nineteen yep O it's kind of like a pharaoh yeah and when he dies someone else become. Someone else is Samson. You are our new Samson there's the Cotelaines, which is the canal that runs through, which I assume is what Kochel is named after okay, maybe hers the Camaniere Cotele, who knows maybe a little, both Salvation Mountain, which you may have heard of that's, probably the most famous thir people, Yeah Angeles. The range range sounds that that's their club, their night club, Borde, yeah, open air bar thing. There content venue bhas my two favorite, so you ready East Jesus and West Satan, so those two communities are really interesting communities and I'll. Tell You why? Okay, they were started by hippies, yeah, obviously es us. US was first and these Jesus was started after Salvation Mountain which gives context to it. But it's not a religious thing. He's Jesus is like an artist installation, and so their big thing was whatever waste. We have we're going to terran into art, and so bottles tires cars they over a decade. We've built this five hundred foot tall statue of Jesus Christ out of trash trash, because isn't he just the great recyclers just go stories? Yeah, it's gonna go for restore yeah, but it's all of us are trash. All of us. A Tha gave us purpose and meaning and value Yep yeah, but the main thing is that you're trash, but it's like kind of Muspel thing. Yeah, your son, if you remember anything from this cock, don't remember that he gave you value, purpose and love, but I remember the you were trash, so write that in your journal Rita, so a lot of the the art installations that they have. There are like heavily political against society, c capitalism and Western society. There is a massive wall of t vs, which I'm going to I'm going to see. If I can pull what kind of movies they watch, these watch a form rope. I'm going to pull this up. So there massive walls of like it's like old vs from like the s s yeah, yeah old TS. So it's basically where all the TV from the Richmond TV vigilanti go yeah. Actually he might source his his addiction from here. You think he's driving a vew hall with box TV from Slab City to Richmond, Virginia Yeah, yeah, okay, and so each of the TVI. Were you going to show me the picture where he's going to pull it yeah, I'm just going to describe it to you. So they're, big TV with white paint over the screen and the big red words? Oh yeah, I s igling something things that they say which is like. You need a man. You need more stuff standard of beauty, you're, not good. My favorite is white people young at each other. So these are the you see on what you think bla we own you, okay, yeah, it's very of the wrong opinion, yeah, it's kind of dark, but honestly, like it's like well, I've seen it right, yeah, it's outside of every house in Arkansas yeah, so there's a with their big trump flags and their cart flags. I mean that's what I'm saying it's had seen this so yeah. They got signs that say the media is lying to you. Yeah they've got one that as Democrats for evil right next to it says Republicans are evil. It's yeah, it's crazy! I mean you know, we're all evil. Jesus actually said that so that's fun, Yeah Bad News, bad advertising, so yeah, so they just got were part of that. You know which one which screen do we thet on it's one of those. It's one of those one of those little faces games from like two thousand and ten, where you tag yourself tag yourself, we're misinformation. We're, like might be facts might be facts. Pretend facts so speculated facts speculative fact. Thank you. So they just have a bunch of things on there that are like it's a call back. Is it just making sure you know never heard of that one? So, just a bunch of political art pieces made out of literal garbage and some of them are very creepy, like they've got like Manikin legs, like sticking out of things like spooky, looking stuff that you're like this is weird. I don't like this and what's what makes it even creeper is they're in this desert heat. So most of this aren't like slowly melts, yeah and so like deteriorates and melts, but yeah so and they're constantly adding to it, because the whole thing is they don't waste any of their trash, so they're constantly adding trash to these art pieces, so they're like in a state of like ever changing and either deteriorating from getting destroyed by the climate or growing from people. I it's like the precious moments, Chapel Yeah Yeah, actually pretty accurate yeah. Pretty soon he's always he says, is never finished until I'm gone till I'm done it's so west West Satan was another organized or nature's pace trash. That's all! I just love capitals, a love to take trash and waste. AH, there they're x a bunch of CEOS and they actually X, N, B C CEO. No, they actually it. This is one of the most interesting neighborhoods because there's the least amount information, they're very close off to outsiders that art welcome people in they have like like make so fest fence around it. That says like keep out and like signs that say like enter, to become my next target and like creepy stuff is because they just don't want anybody to come in and it's pretty clear that they chose the name West Satan to like make fun of Eas Jesus and the hippies over there because they're the angry group yeah. They seem like the angry group, but they keep to themselves. They do their own thing and nobody really cares. So I would love to see the Slab City Royal. You send one fighter from each neighborhood to the coase, the Kansas City Royal, really any any sin. PARKVILLE person they are. They also have their own hot springs, the hot crab slipe city, where they go, and you know I've got one of those things things, that's a hot tub, a something but salvation mounds, probably the most famous part of Slab City. It is just like it sounds a mountain where you go to get saved, that's not that curate, but the artist poly would think so. The guy's name is letter night. He built it. I was born an nineteen thrty one dive, then and fourteen, and he served in the United States military and when he came back from the military he wanted to do something to help people find Jesus, and so his first idea was mountain. Now that wasn't his first, I got t build them out. He started small with the hot air balloon that he would paint a Bible verse on the side of and then on the other side of it right. God is love and then just send that hot er balloon flying over cities around America. Here's the problem. He didn't have a hot air balloon, so he just bought a bunch of canvas and like Oh, no tuck it together try to make one and then took his stove to give is it is sterile. I tried to do and it didn't work. Obviously he sounded great he's lighting all forward, nothing. I was not in out. You know why I could. I left the pans in the Boul all the pans out. It's too heavy yeah, so that didn't work so that he was like I mean I can figure out how high bons work. It's got to be just it's just some meat and a balloon then, and so I didn't know why it worked. I mean I got in the basket and I had a hair drier. It was just you know, nothing seemed to maybe it wasn't hot enough, so I switched to my oven yeah so that didn't work, so he okay yeah I at work. This was in the S in eighty four, he discovered slab city and he was enamored with it. He thought it was the coolest thing in the world and that's where he had his next idea. He was like okay I'll build him out in his like. I could have built a hot air balloon I'll, build the mountain I'll start with this stove, as this isn't going anywhere, I'm going to make sure it never does. So he built a mountain out of what mostly adobe a Dolbean Straw and just started stacking it on top of each other and then with paint painted the outside of it. To be this big colorful thing that the center piece has got his love and then just covered it in Bible verses. Well, he worked on IT T L, one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine when it collapsed and he having a heart of gold said. I I believe this is God's way to tell me that my construction method was not safe, and so he started over in this time. He built it using a dobe Straw and latex pain, same thing no, but he actually started adding random other materials, like sticks and twigs and car parts to strengthen it and stoves and stops ovens, Stevens and so from one thousand nine hundred and eighty nine for the next really until he died like twenty seven years from that point, was adding to this mountain year picture of it yeah. I do you've probably seen this before it's pretty famous I'm gosh this picture is tiny Jeez. I really want you to flip a picture of Pike's peak, a yeah man. You might have seen this before I've never seen you've, never seen this. No, so yes, it S. just this big mountain really really colorful mountain tall. It's about three stories, tall! Okay, it's a mountain! I mean I'm the hill, but I mean, but I mean you're not doing anything out there all day. You just got yeah you's like what are you doing over there yeah we're coming out? Who was that I'm more come O building the mountain build the moment yeah. So it's to describitur audio listeners, it's super colorful he's got like every color in the rainbow, like literally whatever can a Pat Ye at is what he painted the outside of a of it with, and then he this cover o describe a audio listeners. It's kind of like a three story mountain you, a picture that, like just a hill, it's basically a hill. I don't know, I don't know what footage I consider something, a mountain, but it's not three stories yeah so, and it says God is love and there's a big heart underneath it and a big cross on the top of yeah and then the heart inside the middle of it has a cinis prayer, says dear Jesus, I'm a sinner, please come into my heart, that's it and so yeah there's a giant cross, the top of it. So the idea this the idea for him Gennle ly was people will see this and they will become a Christian yeah and he for years were pastors by would start by to see it. He would give them full to or he would stop what he's doing, give them a fule tour and then tell them about Jesus, and this was his ministry, his whole life and he strongly believed in it. He eventually started a church in a tent nearby and it's the Slab City Church and was wondering if there was a church out there yeah and he would baptize people in the Cotelaines, which is I mean, given its name. The best thing we used to baptize people over in that section, but now that's west Satan, so so gonna go out and what's interesting, is he didn't pay a dime for this? It was completely built by donors, sort of I mean he built it, but donors gave them the paint, so people would drive by and they just drop off paint and back. He got I like ten goons of paint you want. It was just put another layer of paint on him once that drives. That's had that's how you build them out. Well, it's he built the mountain out of the adobe, and so he took a doby from the surrounding desert to kill the mountain and just random trash. He found pretty much to strengthen it and then he painted it with donated latex from like done. Latex pain, hey thanks, O ticking out things are learn last night. If you like what we're doing you want to help us do more of it. One way you could do that is to purchase a merchandise. We've got mugs, t shirts, all that stuff on the website. Tilono S Merch. If you go to till nom Mercht, all of that is there of you to check out, and we would love her to be a part of the show and helping us to do more things. So, thanks for checking this out and back to the episode and it's still being painted to this day, so he died in twenty four ee still adding to it. He died in o thousand and fourteen and a group of locals came together and they actually. This is like the only like legal entity that any anybody in that city is a part of. It is a not for profit that is exists to maintain salvation mountains. There Salvation Mountain ink is what I think they called it, but they're not for profit organization. I don't think they understand how that works, but but they just a donations. I Mk, Oh because that's what they put on the mountain, so they they exist just to maintain it. So it's a group of about seven people who they will hang out outside as like security and to give tours to tourists that drive through the area and then maintain it, and so they're constantly painting it or doing patches, because the the the desert environment is really not good for that great for anything or Yeah Yeah, and so it's it's in a state of consent to Kay, and so these people are keeping it up and patching holes as they pop up or repainting sections as they dry up or melt or whatever. What's really interesting about this is that there we go go to the interesting bar okay. What here was really interesting is that well he actually, he built a museum to go along with it like connected to it, which is made of the same thing he actually well. Actually this is he built the first layer of it is the hot air balloon that that failed, so the dome the first layer of it is that hotter balloon that he stuck up and then he built on top of that Hotter Belin. So the hotter balloon is in the mountain. Well, it's in a dome on the side of the mountain, that's the museum, and so the museum was interesting about the museum is what he would do is when people this guy is just so interesting when people came to Salvation Mountain and he gave them a tour and he kind of did his Little Gospel presentation. If people accepted Jesus into their heart, he would think them by asking them to give them something theirs, so he could Kiri. Thank you so much for being here, so he could reave your hub cap yeah, exactly black guys have a spirit here, I'd like it, and so he collected all these little trinkets from Picaro in that trunk. WHO- and so this museum is just shelving, like all around this, like dumb stuff to us, to land him stuff that people gave him after they accepted Jesus, and it's that's is muse and it's just random trinkets and ods. I in it looks like it up there. It looks like areawise. I got from this couple that came through he. Seventy four I hope they're doing. Okay. I think they named their kid after me. I think you just made that up. Yeah Yeah- I did- I haven't heard from them, but I think they did. I would talk after the conversation. It looks like aerials bedroom where she's like sitting in the thingamagig. I got twenty Disney created that I you know that so he does all these trickes, but what's crazy is this became like a big, almost like tourists towards destination sure and some society in some Art Society in California started petitioning the United States Congress to protect it and the United States Congress ended up in two thousand and two declaring it a national art treasure. It's just like a protected piece of art. I would like to be discard and national a well okay, so you got it so that's an nat, yeah yeah and that's different than an NFD. Yes, it is okay, so a national art treasure yeah a Nat. It is not the same. It's not the same, it's a different thing, but it could be an aft. Could I mean you could, in theory take a picture of it and N F it, but I mean, but other people have pictures of the at pictures of it. Just like all N FTES anyways in ninety four, the county hired a toxic way specialist to test the soil around Salvation Mountain yeah and showed that it had really high levels of toxicity, and so they were threatening that they would have to take it down because it was dangerous to the environment and the people side city were like hold up. Can we hire somebody to test it? I and they were like sure, guess and so person wit, it's good to me. You go not to in that toxic. Put that the museum is we put that every time you come, you got a lease Tuck that in the Museus, how could this place be toxic because it just made me a Christian. This is not toxic. o Put this in the fricking museum. Take it as quit. Looking at the screen reaching to pray, there is no Alex but yeah, so that Lik purposely did not turn around. That really literally, is just like just fain, ignoring you, so this other, this other independent organization hate you. This independent organization came back and said: Yeah, there's no, no toxic levels in this soil, a yeah co and the county was like okay, yeah, you're, Ri kind of like sure fine, so they got it to stay and then not long after that it became in the official S. for the new person said no, here's, let's ses, that's fun about this. It it's had. A lot of media coverage is still about. Salvation matters is yeah. It's had a lot of covers in the media, the music video for Kesha Song Praying. It was partially filmed here. I was actually filled all around slab city and the surrounding area, but part of it happened here. My favorite is at the cover of third days. Third Day's album revelation is an artistic rendering of so I'll show you third day third day the nickel back of Christian music. This is this. Is the Thursday third day's Big Song? I don't know they've had a couple. I think photograph Huh Yep, so they were like yeah. It's an artistic rendering of that that mountain. What was it their like? Third Release? Fourth Release: I don't know I can't think of a single third day song right now. Let's see the band thirdday or Terday Thurday Thurday Thurday third day, I can't think of a single Song Ho I'm getting there yeah. I see what you got. They have an album called conspiracy number five. I can't think of a single song telling a song title: Alien, Angus D. Thank US day, Skies Fall Down or sky falls down, come together. Forty days, I can't think of having a song, give you all the stuff they got rewards for. You are good to me. God of wonders that wasn't them, though that's like that's them, covering that song was it so hold on singing. Some men got a wonders by third day, but did they write that got a wonders beyond I galiee see you in slason yeah, of course, cutlass covered it I wait hold on. I knew it wasn't. I knew it like a net song God. I wonders feels like a an yeah. The choir wrote it we're on a way we're on a Christian music tangent. Let's get out of this okay Yeah Kay elthe did. I think they did okay, anyways so yeah third day, that's got the cover art of it. I can think of a lot of casting ground, songs and mercy music, fair. I it was single burnt Das Song Right now anyway. So slap city is what's crazy about this city. Is that there's really nothing about it? That should make it last like there's no economy, there's nothing feeding the city, it's just a bunch of transient people, and then people who are just like. I live here now and they don't really do anything with their time except for make art out of stuff. But what's wild as you watch the you watch, videos of them and they're they love life. They love it there and what's really interesting, is there was a guy named rusty who, in the S, was like the town mayor but like they didn't call him there, but yeah? They always have like a revered person that everybody looks up to and listens to what they say and they're. Like kind of the leader of the pack, a rusty, we shouldn't publicize that because when you say that I think a I could be that person I could go to in a go, be I could take over. You know that would be a dream of mine to take over a cold. I don't want to start while I don't want to start. I want to inherit a colhares. This is my inheritance and that's what we could call it. We are the inhaeret Russy said that was really interesting. Like poetic, even is okay, but he said hast em, that's what they said. What something you've been here for a long time with something that changed over the time that you've been here. I said there ain't, so many chickens. He said used to be a lot more tickets run a while. I don't know where what happened to them, they around no more just kiddin that he did say that, but it wasn't what I was going to say. I was just growling through this is other quotes. You were just like we're rusty from Slab City quotes and he got a whole list at no more chickens right here I was called to this article. That was an interview of him and that I hit that and I was like Oh yeah. This is funny. I forgot that he said that, but I was o what you're thinking of I I'm getting there man, okay, so he said he said it was really interesting is this is how he said it. So it was really interesting is that they said they asked them. If there's like a law or a moral cord code or something that people abide by out here, and he said like things that you have to do, and I said well, here's that that's the thing he's like there's nothing you have to do out here, he's like out here. It's all just what you want to do. He said once you get out of that old situation, where you're punching a time clock and doing what somebody else that tells you to do. He says well you're free and you do what you want to do here. People want to get along with their neighbor. I tell you it girls on you and that's all there is to it, and so it's really interesting because it's like there really isn't a crime problem. That's why the sheriff doesn't really deal with it. Like people do what they want. They do a lot them do drugs, a lot of them drink a lot and they don't really do anything. That amounts to much hoe than the art that they make or building the ranch or the Salvation Mountain or whatever it is, but everybody just does what they want. Mad a mountain yeah. I made him out man. What have you done and so he's like? Oh Yeah, you got tick Tock followers. I made a mount out so yeah and it looks. I really different lives for a happy family they're trying to climb the ladder yeah. You know and I'm climbing a mountain that I made yeah. Some people try to climb Everest and I was like I'm going to make up. I may on ever more like my evertat does sound like something that, like Everest College, would do that I be like yeah. My rest yeah so, but it's not like it's not like a lot of other like like. We talked about tunnel town yeah, and this is a place like we're paddle like that, but not, but not at all, because it like there isn't crime. There isn't people I'm going to visit tunnel bound. Okay, there's n't people getting killed out here. There isn't people like people do drunks, but it's not a debilitating thing. Like people are just they're just living life, it's the one of the wildest. I think it's one of those things where it's probably a bit harder to get there. You know like it's a little bit more of a journey to get out to slab city yeah, it's in the middle of the desert yeah, so you so you kind of have to have the means to get out there and if you have the means to get out there, then you're not. You know yeah rusty. In his interview he talked about how there's kind of two groups of people as the older people and the younger people who come out so the younger people kind of get out here for the anarchy thing like to get away from responsibility and he's like his like. What really kind of happens is we kind of take care of them because they don't understand how to survive out here? Yeah an so. We end up taking care of them a lot, but he wasn't like frustrated about it. He was just like matter of fact about the that's the way I what happens yeah. So there was for a little bit an effort took like take over slab city and like develop it, but a community group came together and they stopped it in the county. They stopped him from being able to sick et over yeah, and now the county officials actually kind of protect it and they're. Like you know, these people aren't hurting anybody. I same sang attitude as that shaeffer like they're, not hurting anybody, they're, not hurting each other. All is got to take. Is some big WIG, CEO yeah? I know real estate developer to come out there with his big map. Yeah right he's three D model. Where he's like listen, we could put a mall out here. You've seen us, do it in Minneapolis and New Jersey, all right, I'M SAYING SLABS S SLAPS! Imagine it's got a Miromesnil. You say that because it sort of happened they developed it sort of, but here's the thing. I knew this from the start. We don't have time for that, so we're going to have to fiddle that off into a part. Okay! Well, we've never done a part to before. So, if you're listening to this and you're like well, I'm impatient, I don't even want to wait for part to that's fine, it's available right now on Patriot. All you got to do is text till in the six six eight six six every week our patron supporters get an episode early. They get the episode a week before everybody else, and if you cannot weigh for part two of this, because apparently this is where it gets crazy. 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What do Salvation Mountain, East Jesus, and West Satan have in common? If you guessed they’re locations in a video game then you’re only half right. These eclectic phrases are names of subdivisions in the infamous Californian town known as Slab City. Home to mostly squatters and vagabonds, Slab City has been hailed as the last free city in the … Read More

Lonnie Zamora – UFO Sightings Like This Will Blow Your Mind

06-22-21

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Hey Man, what's up brother, have you heard of the Lonnie Zamora incident, Lonnie Zamora Yeah? Maybe Bonnie, have you heard a Lani, so mor Lonnie sounds like a youth group volunteer. That's for sure in Texas, like a Texas, we that kind of guy. That means really well but like just says things that you're, like that's, not good theology yeah you, like you're, gonna, tell your Bot your pastor, like yeah, I'm Goin to have a meeting with lonnie today, another my weekly Tuesday, meaning he sal the guy with volunteers, youth group, but is also the maintenance guy for the church. You know like he's just outside and Moin Reante Riding Lawn Mower, it's a massive yard for the church, but Yah I just like she. He likes the discipline of it. He likes Porpus boding that Yard Yeah Church has a Ridin. They don't even have a push. He brings his be biis own push mower of his Tanais to stop T he's. Not even the one is supposed to do. It. They've asked him to stop. They said, listen and hired someone else to do. Somebody else and he's like Hey, save the church's money, I'll go hers O money out. I feel, like God, call me to do this. You know he's just out there a h Mo yeah and he wos over it gets done. He mows it over seven times yeah, because that's what he you know, because he just he believes which is last Le Times a week, Zamora yeah. They call him Lonnie Zamower, so show I'm not a freaking sandquake a patient, probably that guy hired to do it. It's called alien aid. I don't know how would you go back to mowing the church, your R okay, we've got ear horse things to do here. You think they're, rolling, out luxury, yeah, Lokolo, yeah yeah things to me is a Zamora sounds like a shop at a shopping, Mall Yeah, it does welcome, is or one of those key open, Tiamo. That's how the that's, how the employer very tell you walking welcome to some more well, it's yeah! It's a! I had real, weird yeah and they're all wearing like like sparkly shirts, O sparkin short was like a black blazer over, like those shirts. Were like you run your hand across it and it's like black and then you run your hand the other way, and it's like sparkly and silver and they've got like a little chubby under belly kind of thing, but their face is so thin. It's like a a person like that. We your just like. Why is your shoulder up yeah, Ninety five pounds? That's like facial life of life. What did you do and it turns out they're just sucking in their face all day or they've contour their makeup to be a way? That's like it's crazy at Han you doing that. Why are you clinching your jaw like that on a tikas hot? Have we talked about Hottogon in this show? I don't remember. I hate that that was your reaction. I it's a good movie. How do you move out? It is the single greatest movie ever made go that far but yeah. How do go Bloto, it's as it was a movie. It was good. It was if you like, okay, shameless plug, for something that I don't need to plug. If you liked not to libra or or no play in a m the in farmers, those kind of like our Hiron Yeah, you will love hatty blond, it's a good film. I love it. So much is my favor me. I see like more Superior Taste, Oh love, safety, dacker, my Gosh and by superior taste. I mean like, if you're in love with ibility you're, going to love this movie she's in I'll. Tell you what okay a lot he's: a Mora, Lan Lonnie, losed Lodi, but go adisura Loti Sapores Lani la o, more lanes Amora, he was it was an incident we're talking about. This is an incident we is is creat. He was a cop in New Mexico in N T S and S C, and in one thousand nine hundred and sixty four at five forty five P m. He was doing his typical routine, which Walian thing no nice. I was really worried when you said a specific time in New Mexico. I was like this guy got. A duct is so he was sitting. He was doing his typical, his typical daily routine of sitting on the side of the road and pulling people over for speeding, because you know he's a cas what you do he's, not a cop. He just does this there's a guy on there's a guy on the Internet. That does that. Have you seen that guy? No? No there! I don't remember what his using name he's been arrested multiple times he has like a motorcycle yeah with lights and stuff on it, yeah and he's dressed as a cop yeah, and he just sing pulls people over. That's scary, yeah, that's similar, my parents said and growing up. They grew up in Phoenix yeah, I don't remember, or maybe it was when they were married when they were first married. I can't remember the time line of the story, but some time when they were younger in Phoenix in their neighborhood, there was an ice cream man who was mentally handicapped, but he believes he was a cop and the most pure thing in the world is everybody in the neighborhood just went along with it yeah as they let him pull them over and then we write them tickets and he would literally like he would wait on the side of the road and his ice cream check and he'd pull people he'd turn on his ice cream truck music and pull people over and then come rint them a ticket sure and everybody loved him. He was a super cool guy and sold them that's after the ticket. That's the good side of that. The bad side of that is like you know, people get arrested yeah, but it's not a real God right, yeah! Well, he didn't dress like a cop. He just like an ice cream man. So, okay, so people people knew there was no there's no question. I just want to see an outsider driving through town and be like. Is this ice cream truck pulling me over right? Now? I guess I I go back there. I think I'm getting pulled over by an ice cream, I'm being pulled over. I mean I could go for a bomb. I can't tell if I'm going to get a ticket or what was those yeah man they used to have like cartoon characters with Yeah Balls Yeh the Gumbi like lollipop things that epops ca things yeah. Those are so good anyways. I haven't seen the Nice Cram checking a long time. Okay, let's Kiss I appinting, can you door dash an ice cream truck? No okay, so I so he's just eenie cream truck. I have see Nice Comin a long time. They're around an see. I chased one down last year I straight up ran after an ice cream truck is up here in the North Lane. I heard the music. I pulled over a parking line and I realized it wasn't correct. So I came for a yeah all right, Goin yeah, so that I was like all right. Buddy I slipped my lights on yeah I took out my honestie lights. That's right, yeah, an chase! Ten Min Siren, but it's not a siren, it's just a voice. Recording of me going. We, who is that man you have one of those bull horns, I'm sorry! If you're driving, you thought something you looked in the rear, O view, because you thought the place are pulling you over. It's fine, it's just US making dumb noises. I hate when songs have police sirens. Oh yes, the word anyway, anyways so he's in his time he's an actual police of Al. Please O me here get five forty five pm yeah and he clocks somebody speeding down the highway. This is a mill nowhere in New Mexico like the desert, so people I mean they drive fast. This isn't El because it doesn't matter so so start with pursuing this guy walks im going to hundred and forty five. You know it turns out to be a UF N, N N. no, it's a car. This is a car. He coups. He clocks the car going super fast US pursuing him and he's chasing this guys on the radio he's talking about the pursuit right and then he hears this loud explosion, and so he pulls away from the pursuit he as has herd explosion when to try to figure out where it came from so I pulls over. He starts looking for smoke, it's the Melly desert, so it's like you can see for miles right, so he's looking for smoke and then he sees this bright light. This is an alien thing soon, as you said, New Mexico as five and forty five I was like you know what I know where this is going: Golly Man, I hate that you you that look, look, click the camera. First of all, every person is into aliens skipped out when we were doing the whole ice cream yeah it yeah. Well, I mean, but if you're still here it's three thirty in the morning go to bed go, go sleep. Don't comment on the Yutu. Video don't be like these guys are idiots who are just shut up, actually go to sleep. Can You setch to my came? Hey. Thank you. We appreciate your comments. It helps our algorithm, so leave leave your comets. We want them, makes me so mad. I don't like that. My knee is in that shot, we'll get it out of the shop, but your tea down in your female. It's an alien thing. I knew it. Okay, so he's looking. There's a bright lie right like so, he starts driving towards it. He let dispatch know that that's Essenian, what's going on when he gets down there. He notices this weird, like giant horizontal egg, like if you seen a neg before horizontal little bit horizontally, Yeah. That's what I sees. That's, how I hold all my egg or he also came in the refrigerator. I turn him for CICALAS o their best stored yeah. They they keep better that way so or he also described it as a butan tank or as a guy in a Yutu Wath, called it a booting tank, but with four like legs struts, and he sees it. It likes just sitting in the desert and it's got legs on it. Yeah. It's got four little little steel legs, okay and it's just kind of sitting. There in the desert, he sees this red symbol on the side of it. That looks like a like a big archway and in the arch way, there's an Arrow and then just like a horizon line underneath the Arrow and he's like that's weird and cryptic. I don't know what that is, and so, okay. He then notices a wise, basically where the explosion came from yeah and so he's painting the landscape, and then he notices to what he described as either large children or small adults in white cover. Alls, Hey, small kids that adds up with bobbles are, though Yep Yep the children. So there either that large, a large kids are small adults backing around the craft, and he says one of them noticed him and he says when he noticed him, it scared him, and so he started running, not a great cop. That is why he was a John he started running. I O scared, the none, the fifth grader yes with this is this giant horizonal figures wo like yeah, I was out there in the desert. Cheese Everson was beating, Sausamans spoke to them. No, yes, this scared, Lannie. So lane started kind of like it was almost like. He was running for cover he's like he's like oh they're, going to they're gonna attack me sure, and then he hears two loud thuds and he describes them as like car doors. Shutting is what he discredit as he's like it's almost like a garter shut and then he turns back and there was a loud roar and he saw flames come out from underneath the egg and it took off and then once it was air borne, it went silent. There was no exhaust plume and it just flew off along the landscape very low to the ground. So he calls dispatch dispetto s at a bunch. More officers he's a hey guys, keep an eye out for a floating egg, yeah they're like if it floats it's still good. We can still cook it, but if it sinks, then we need to go to the supermarket. So so he calls dispatch a couple. More officers come out and they're investigating the scene, and they noticed that yeah there was in the sand these four sunken like strut spots where the legs would have been and then underneath where there was evidence of yeah in the center of it there was the sand was glass. It got burned into glass where, under with where the thrusters would have been, and then I was also footprints with geometric patterns all over the sand over around where that craft were landed, they had pictures of it. They took pictures of the scene of the like crystallising thing. Your face got tight, like you're smiling as you're like they got pictures of it. Like your. Oh, my God, like you know in deep down, you don't believe these pictures are real, like I don't believe. Are they real? Okay? Let's be honest, if anybody here's not going to believe something, it's going to be you if any, if he to leptic, that's it. If anybody here's Goin to believe something is going to be mean, I'm the person who will blindly believe something here in this room right now, I'm just I'm staving. Okay, so the air force shows up. You call on me, Ear Force Guy, I don't know if they called the air force, but the air force is like. We need to be here for this. Well, that's how you know what's going to issue like you're out here in best it in taking pictures you here, like you like what was that and then like a freaking plane lands, it has six sway or force walks out and you're. Just like Hey Lonnie, where the air force we're going to need you to go. I don't know, pull someone I do now. How would you go back to Mowin the church? Your Okay we've got ear horse things to do here. I'll see you on say that Lonnie, the Air Force kid that is also part of the Church Church. You lay to church and that's really the power of Ortach to think about it. You know so so they quickly take over the investigation. They also enlist the FI in the investigation, the CIA, the army, a bunch of organizations, an listen everyone wants in on Al everybody's, like yeah. We, this is alike D. everybody wants to be a part of the yeah dot. I don't give a crap of what year. Is this one thousand nine hundred and sixty four? Oh, then, okay, those what was big in s? Oh, hey, something to ordered our president last year. Let's forget about that for right now, because I would sure like to figure out this alien situation, all hands on the flight deck all hands on Egg. Oh Gosh, I was trying to think of major events I was like. I was going to be like well, I'm not interested in catching. The unbombarded was like decades later, yeah yeah, someone killed the president last year and we're going to drop that project to look at what's going on out here with you Lonnie that made me think of this. I maybe you saw this. I don't remember who it was. It was one of the guys who attempt to do assassinate a polite political figure. I don't think it was the president but attempted assassination wasn't successful, went to prison for it. I has recently got out and now runs a youtte channel like an art, yuture channel. I don't remember who it was, but he smote his channel Ave race. Have you seen this though I am so like man? I can't remember, and what's it what's, it called the almost discussion. I don't remember I don't remember that's why I'm bringing it up. I was hoping you W. Remember. I mean one of our listeners put in the discord. If you know what I'm talking about, because I'm really honestly like I'm interested in that speaking of the discord the way to get access to, that is to text till in to six six, eight, six, six. As for our patron supporters, and if you do that you can join our discord, which is basically a group chat, it's literally on our phones, yeah. So we're message back and forth whenever we get a message Yep exactly and you to to tell me about where to find that you Tube Che, please tell you if you can to hunt down, I want to learn how to make his mountains that he jos, he draws a really good or paints your you you're gonna. Do you want Bob Ross lessons he's just like he's like you know what there are there's just happy accidents and that's what I think my failed assassination temple was that the ex was a happy accident. I let me to this yout channel. It's really strange, as he draws these really beautiful scenic, like mountain vistas and every single one at the top of the moutain there's a sniper. It's just it's a weird little detail, yeah! So much okay, so they're all out here in New Mexico. Yes, so they're getting in they're investigating it and what's interesting is as the r the investigations going on. They noticed that lanny wasn't the only witness there's a group of Io winds. Is that how you say that people from Iowa Iwein? What I wed you see. What do you call people from Iowa? I don't want Iowans Oetas, I think it's a Jana is that at that is at's reference for the church. No, it's Iowan islands was yeah, so they were a shipping. I wot the Rota bring down his torte. Sixty six sit six sixty five sure sixty six, it you lived in Springfield, I gotta, remember I they were road, tripod tripping and they stopped at a gas station and they asked the gas station attendant. They were like like. Why is that COP still follow us? We just got away, they ask the Assistente said: Why does your planes fly so low here and he was like what I ye have this plane flew like right over us on the highway that was like yeah. I know I was a cashier, the the redistilled. What then the Gaston turned into a giant egg? The ions have never been see again, yea the iowas just started shrinking and they put white other coveralls on them and there, like what is happening to us, is like Richard. What's going on he's, like, I don't know, Doddy like quick, O basic t. We gotta get out, so I know what that Cup yeah. Do. We have merchandise, yeah, very cool? How do I purchase them? You can go to Tello merch there. We have mugs t shirts hoodies, I mean anything. You could want stickers. No, we do have stickers. Do we yeah to Don last March? He what you're saying is there Hawkeye witnesses all right, yeah ye? So so? Yes, so they see it. A couple other like locals, reported seeing some eggs ship a a shaped Craft AG. Ships is that in a hit and they're like you're, saying it wrong, it's ancient is that an Ishi by your saying on Terman's ancient here's, the thing what's really interesting about this is sidings went on for about two weeks. People were seeing this thing flying around the region, two weeks yeah for two weeks, just flying around landing places, doing things and landing places doing things yeah. We talked about like any paces, getting out being seen as on a alre drive through as wild. It was just like mad. The I mean they don't even care they're, not trying to hide. There is out here like hey. We saw your commercials super into that, a like the like: where can we get one of those burgers and they like which one do you want, o the Char boiled one? Am I saying that correctly are boiled one like why s your voice, like that, I'm from a click, maybe a click and something like a char boiled, it's terrible, so wihare broiled. So the Air Force obviously is doing this investigation for a long time and they end up coming out with two reports. So they put out a report that they put out to the pace is all the stuff that's coming out now. Yes, okay, sort of yes, this came out a while ago, but sort of yes yeah, so they put out report the public, basically saying hey. We think that nothing was going on here, we're pretty sure he saw some ball lightning and hallucinated in the desert, because he was dehydrated, that's what they said, and so that was the part that was really really stood public, but they also as dehydrated yes dehydrate yeah they're like when the last time reg water he's, like I probably like fifteen minutes ago. He, like it's hundred thirty degrees, your dehydrated, you hard. As I don't know, I saw a buddy yeah. We believe here drink this drink, some water yeah. We think you're thirsty it's called alien aide. So so they really said. Second a report- and we have this one because of the disclosure of Project Blue Book which do you know, Project Blue Book Yeah. That's where you look up your cars value. That's! Actually it came from project Lou buck that that was their first generation. It did go while the created a new car version. The project Blue Book was the same thing for Uf yea like what's the value, here's the thing I mean we want to find it all right. We want to know where came from also, can we so what's about yeah? What's let's on that? How many miles you think it's got on is in of serious radio or the Atamens is like seventy thousand light years. Is that good or he's calling odd Hamete yeah the odd Hamete? That's odd, so in project Blue Book there was a report that was sent to the director of Project Bluebook literally the same day that they sent out the report to the public. That report said basically it was pretty frantic and basically said we have no idea. What's going on here, Oh yeah yeah. You can say that to the public, so yeah, exactly we like hey guys, get do that. You got to be confident with the public if you're listening, you need to go. Watch that clip, because that's funny, I don't know, I don't know yeah I mean I tell you, but if we knew, but we don't- and this is what I think- and this is a real tangent of ye one real, quick yeah. I think that the leadership we deserve is leadership. That does say things like we don't know we aren't sure, but not sure, but I'm saying the reason that we get to a place where people don't trust. The government yeah is because the government didn't know but still felt they needed to give a definitive answer and that the same thing that happened with Covin and stuff ye was like. Listen, we don't know here's a definitive answer and then what happens a year later it turns out. The definitive answer wasn't entirely accurate, but they were just you know they just had to give something, and so the way it does it ends up creating this like. Well, we can discredit them and so dis creates this distrust and the way to you know if you're listening and you want to create trust in your community. Tell the truth. Tell the truth. Even if you don't know to answer yeah truth, Wins Truth Wins Right, that's up yeah and that's actually one of our sponsors is tell the truth. You know it's one of those billboards that pops up it's like, whatever the pass it on. That's what it is pass on, truth pass it on yeah and then that's also leads us right into one of my personal sponsors. Lunar Truth: Dot, Org, O, I hate you say one of your personal spares they're, not even sponsoring the podcast. They even care. If you say this on our podcast, they want you to say this in normal interaction, all the time it that so much so and the Kelly Blue Book report, they came out and they said yea. We have got no idea. What this is. We don't know what the symbol is. We don't know where it's from what it's made of and they included all the the photographs they actually. We don't know this for sure, because it's not included in the report. I mean a lot of the reports are product, but we don't know this for sure, but Lonnie is pretty sure that they took the glass from the site because when he came back he he came back a day or two later and all the holes in the sand was were filled back in and the glass was gone yeah so he's pretty sure they took it on me to make it they don't need a tourist site, yeah yeah exactly, and so I think it's pretty crazy. You know the last place that aliens visited the Earth Yeah to cover it up. They just started burying cars, sticking aay of the YEP yep they're like the like hey. How do we make it to where they're not curious about the UF yeah cadillacs? Excuse me catalogs, like Ol Floren or yeah yeah. I bourdat the other, a bowered cadillacs he or did the Ford, but they could have got. They could have get them for a right because he did for it was an exclusive deal. The Co Ralph. This is my Calvin cline Lincoln I drive it's. The bumper looks like the top of underwear yeah is, is like yeah really into it. You know, oh my Gosh, so the Blue Book. It has seven hundred and one cases that they don't have an explanation for in the bluebook there's thousands and thousands of other cases in the Blue Book. Okay, but seven hundred a D one. They say these are our on UNUN cases. I think it was in the sevens or eighties they canceled. The the Operation Blue Book or Project Ly Book is what it's called due to a lack of interest in aliens they're just like for that period. The government was like we're bored with this. No, they thought they thought that that it was no longer a threat to the United States, so they stop yeah. The biggest threat is communism. Yeah the aliens aren't Communists, the Er yeah they like other capitalist. We buy stuff from them all time, so we're not worried about him go so so yeah t t that was top in an was disclosed. I I want to say the nines. I don't know if you Lonnie's still out there in New Mexico doing the same thing every day, because he's now a cargo cult thinking if I can just get one of these used to come down, he's just throwing eggs in the desert why our eggs be involved. I think e today and Tina he's just throwing eggs in the desert he's never eaten scrambled egg, yes and he's drying. Little Red pictures on that he's got a red, sharp bees like drawing symbols on the side of these eggs and throw it on through the desert. They just like. There's Lannie this yeah yeah, it's pretty sad he's to be a cop, yeah yeah still pulls people on it. Can I get an ice cream sandwich? Please, just US thrown eggs at them, elani feel so bad. An E O s story, I think, is guy with eggs. Well, oh, they start pulling so he's his is the government started bolling, I knew it. I knew it so there's lots of theories about what was happening yeah here they gave up on the project in the es they were like. Less were not interested. So obviously, obviously one of the theories that it's aliens right yeah and another theory is owls- that's pretty fit for the one everybody knows: owls fly and giant eggs, they carry around. They look for big ostragarth thing and they fly around the desert. Here's a thing: okay, here's a thing! There are baby owls in New Mexico, but there's not adult owls in Mexico. Okay, so they don't know where they're coming from you know talking about the guy to be flyed somewhere else, where what are they flying to what's happening? There's an earlier phase in their metamorphosis where they're a giant a and then they turn into an now. This is the official theory official official theory. Tillin Blue Bookoh just got all of our dumb theories. We should make that we should. We should write a book about just our Sir Tie is that's really funny actually, but I I'm kind of serious. I, like here's, my theory, I'm out there with you. I'm want to put it in that weird cryptic note on my notes on my computer: Seventy six one O one one one, ninety five to o all our case, so the theory is obviously aliens owls, yet dis, yeah, yeah, so aliens are the biggest one owls, I suppose yette. I suppose. There's the government publicly said that he was hallucinating another another very similar with the irons. Is that U O skeptic his theories that a saw marage? And so but I mean that's just like that's the same thing where he's derated yeah. Basically, the same basically same theory: here's two of the larger, more accepted theories right so not far from this, and by not far I mean about a hundred miles away. So pretty far from this is a place called White Sands Missile Range, which is a place where you go. When you made a mistake on your hotel reservation, Oh yeah, we went to White Sans Yeah Yeah. We to that place to the course sandals. I yeah. Isn't this all inclusive? I mean they did keep us in the cell and they gave us all of our food. We a o! Please e!! yes, thank you. A litare out here that a yeah, it's pretty warm, and so the sun lies so low here really runs the experience. The yelp reviews are to the Bois a really bad yeah, so the the locals calm, the babies, that's where they test bombs. I'm assuming I hate that you just ignored that joke. What did you say? I didn't even hear I said the locals called the IAWENS. Oh, my God. I we! Yes, it's a missile test range yeah which that's like I was down and I was out in Palm Springs. I was speaking at a church Sunday morning, yeah, you know everyone's just kind of filing in the church, I'm just standing outside a use here: Bobs Yeah, just things blow right on the other side of these mountains, Yep Yep babe and I was like who, how are you guys getting up? It's US big air force base where they just drop bombs and like yeah, I think that's a war every Sunday morning. That's really disruptive yeah, I mean imagine being the Pentacostal in that area, though you know yeah, because every Sunday it's explosive, we no I'm just saying like every Sunday you're like t guy guy this it. This is it. This is the one all right, let's go into another verse yeah. Do I do that again so, but the theory here is that around that same time NASA was testing all of the devices at the White Sands Missile Range, where they realluring they're losing a before yeah, because they haven't made of the moon yet and they're Lunier lander. They were testing when they were like this. Sand is white. The moon is white. That's as far as ASA got, but like we're going to test on things that are the same. Color Yeah, just body got a lot of paper her. I heard a good joke about the lunar landing. Yeah does that's so I remember it. Oh, my name is buzzard. I was the second person on the Moon who's there kneel before me, Hahahaha Hahaha. I hate that. I hate that so much. I got another one: okay, it's not a moon one though nock knock who's. There Yode Lady, you older lady, who I hate that so much anyway, it doesn't on you, keep in your back pocket for when people ask you to tell you jokes now: Yeah Yep, that's how I prove I'm a comedian is just Hacke street jokes. Have you ever told that story on this that use a comedian? Oh, no, I haven't use a commit. You know people that to me a lot, though, when I was we were driving. It was terrible because then there's no way you're going to make someone laugh when you're driving on guard. They like it's challenge. Oh Yeah, you know he made me lat and you're just like whenever you know my nephew was like you got a brace car bet. You know yeah he's like yeah, I sleep or a car, and I was like yeah me too. You know and they're like hm and I'm like hey. I got two specials you an stole that joke. I saw that on twitter, this guy name Jaron, Myers Tete that I hate I do I, for I saw another tick tacker. Do that someone else made this video word for word yeah, which means you did it: okay, yeah exactly all of you are ticktock by the way anyways, so they ere testing the lunar landing device at that same time, at White Sands, not the same time on time, span yeah a hundred miles away and the literater. If you've ever seen, it looks like an egg. No, but it does have three legs lanes discuss thing with four, but it does have three legs: it lands on it relatively similar. It uses rocket thrusters is it lands to like cushion the fall, and so it's similar ish ish, but no really, we've been to the moon since then yeah. I think there was another one since then, but since the Apollo missions ended, we haven't been back. I believe we've been back a few times since that, first time watching you on musk try to land these rockets, yeah I'm becoming more skeptical. Well, we never landed a rocket on the moon. That's fair. We landed the landers, the rocket took the ladder, and then we landed the lantern. She different things so how they get back. They did it. We left from there. They started a cargo cult. Tom Hanks is still up there. It's lunar, Luner Lunardo termed courtroom. Stop it so anyway, just move on Hey. Thank you. So much for checking out things. I learned last night, if you like what we're doing and want to help us do more of it. You want to help us reach more people. Please consider joining us on patron. It's a way that you can financial support this podcast and help us to reach more people, but also you'll get a lot of really cool stuff. In return, you get early access to episodes, bonus, content and special merge that only gets sent to Patrin supporters, so that is Tillim s join till nom, Jo. In a D, You can check that out there for more information. If not thank you again for even being here and checking on our podcast, so some people say that it's he saw the lunar lander that they were testing a what's strange about. This is when they tested the Lunar Lander. What they would do is to a fly over with the hell copter at low altitude and they drop it and test the landing in and go lit. He didn't describe seeing a helicopter. Also, the loon liner never took back off in these tests. They would put it on a trailer and take it back and do the test again. Also they didn't take it outside of the missile test it which was a hundred miles away. So it's a little odd of a conclusion here that doesn't seem to line up much, but the people who are testing it probably would be wearing white cover alls when they're testing it and we everybody knows people who work at as are really short. So that's what they ask the Nastalik a certain height to be a pilot, though you actually did Y. Ah, you can't be over a certain. Well, I don't know that's the truth anymore. I think there was for a while no to Mak o no true he or saies. Now you think they're rolling out luxury yeah luks bombers, yeah yeah they got the wrong to the lack through I flew yesterday, was an eddy bower. On tell you what I mean you should see the stuff that they're doing in these new ones. I'm telling you what man anyway and you're not going to believe it. I just watch net flix. While I fly the whole time, I got a little screen there. I just watch no Fli anyways, so yeah. There's that theory parlous license. So there's that theory, I know, is the dream of yours and I want o o know it's dead. It's not going to have stop it. It's not that I'm speaking it over you right. He let me speak truth of you at the time that happened to me. What I was at I was it was. I was nineteen, so almost like. I want to speak some truth over Ye. I was nineteen which sounds like what a we wrestler would say. Let me speak some to tete always hold the mice like this, like just like. Let me Tak the street from de Dupe, I sort like got an empty beer can at the end beer again they smashed em their head. They jump from the thing and then yell welcome to Doctor Bobs of to God, so no yeah. So I was nine undred n e N. I was Nineteen Isaiah was working as like an inter mouth paster for his church, because the youth paster left for some reason. His church was like yeah this nineteen year old did he could do that, and so he was just going for the summer to be the youth faster, and so he was at the church where he became a youth pastor. No, and so so he asked me he was like Hey, I'm going to take them to desperation conference, which big conference in Carne Springs every year. He's like you want to come, Colet it with me and we like yeah, we're nineteen. We didn't the side Bar. We didn't think about food on this trip we took. I think it was twenty one high school in Middle Scholers, down to Caro Springs and we got there and it was like lunch time and we were like we didn't think about how these children are going to eat this whole weekend. We're going for the weekend. I remember we literally just took them to Walmart and we're like Ol get some food. This girl came back with a gallon bag of pepperoni yeah. I know you can't believe I do that's a little happen. Every time band trips, kids, wilt come back with like six bags of fun. On I'm good yeah, I'm good. This is right. No that's a giant bag of, was it slight Pepperoni or was it as she's got giants that first up yea, I just came back with tubs of Cot. Is Cheese M yeah the well, I'm pretty sure what? Actually I don't? I'm an there's, no refitter put that in my fat, resand, rotten cosis still good is souls weird, but it's still good. What is cheese, if not old, I hate we so so you so they did like a late night event every night of the conference right, and so they had two events every time it was either late, night, worship or like games or something sure- and we decide to put up this night because a bunch wanted to worship a Bush wanted to go to game. So I went with the group that went to worship and I was just kind of standing in the back of the the it was like their second auditorium. I was like just kind of staying in the back like so I could get an angle and see all of our students in the crowd. I'm just kind of watching and then this other student, not our student walks up to me, puts his hands on my shoulder and starts like praying into my ear that God would heal a spirit of loneliness within me and he's like he's like he's. Like Lord, I cast out the spirit of loneliness and I pray against the spit of loneliness and I pray for a community to come around this man I was just like. Oh Man, guys know that I've got a gallon of pepper. I turn hers. What do my face because you want to pepper one man, take two slices at or like bons ore like currency you're, in a vending machine putting slide on the pepperoni. Thank you for your hospitality kind. O! Thank you! Hey! Do you realize you're putting Pepperoni I e to buy some checks mix. You have food you're, trying to use slice, O Pepperoni to buy Pepperoni, combos yeah, but combos me they're, better you're, trying to barter with people at the conference. I middle of worship. People are like hands raised your cat MOSOLEM. Would you trade me a pound of pepper, just dream this pond Eron? I got a founder one that says you want to do that you, the check in desk the registration back he's like sorry, sir. I don't see a reservation under your church name and it's like how many reservations will this to get. I oh yeah. What are you thinking now apron? I Talks O. Yes, that's that a that we went for me yeah as rough Dale's, weird man. So, however, we got so another theory that is championed by the president of New Mexico Tech. It's a college, guys name is Stirling Colgate, also known for Stupas Es Basil got you, he campaigned like didn't it just like support this theory like he campaigned this there is like this is the truth, yeah that it was a group of students from New Mexico Tech who put a candle in a balloon and drew a picture on it with the Red Picture and just lit it out in the desert and New Mexico tech was a text coal that focused on engineering. He said so they would have had die, weather balloon yeah, and so they said he said they would have had access to the type of materials to make small rockets, and so he said they made a little balloon and put a candle in it with, and they drew a pictures on the side of it and they lit the rockets and sent it into the sky and his conclusion for this is because Lani Zamora before he was working for the county, he was working as a university police officer and he was very disliked among the students, so they were messing with long and he says this was his theory was that they were messing with money kind of like how I would get you fake, arrested, yeah pretty similar. They were like we're going to make him believe in aliens when was like the whole Roswell thing. When did that become? It was relatively recently, I'm let's. Let me double check o what what I mean is like is the whole, like you know how Roswell Twenty seven, okay, so okay! So that's already almost twenty. I no yeah, that's already in the mind of people. That's already happened, it's it's! You know. This is known that Aliens Visit New Mexico, yeah exactly and so yeah. That theory goes that they were messing with him was: What's tough? Is he there was no legs, there's no, nothing to account for the legs, there's nothing to count for all the footprints. So you on Hog. This idea has liks yeah, so I did that does have legs and a strange that there was other people who witnessed it for weeks after that, yeah event and and the shape of it doesn't really line up with a balloon, like you could maybe kind of squish a balloon into that shape, but that's just kind of odd. So it's tough to conclude that, but those are two remembereth a kid was the attic and his parents were like he's in that weather balloon. member. That I think I do actually way it's like very vague. Another theory was that Lonnie made the whole thing up to spurtourism in his town and they actually, the town did capitalize on it and Oh yeah for sure a yeah tourist is just as it happens. You go hey, listen because people show up yeah because as soon as news gets out like a weird people show up yeah, you know, which is why at back door, comedy club on August six through the eighth, there was an alien encounter there, and so you should go to the back door, Comedy Club in St Louis Missouri August, six, thirty eight and you know, or six to the seven six and seven Friday and Saturday. There's two shows each night and that's where aliens a aliens yeah, here's what's crazy about it is what I've heard happens, is there's a loud bang and the floor turns to glass, and then these these either tall children or short adults, walk on stage and they do stand up, comedy, yeah and and then they le they noticed the crap is actually I've been described as a tall child that I have been described away. So that fits you know, that's actually. In my bio that I give the Comedy Club, I say: Yeah Jerry Myers is a tall child with a million followers online he's got two specials on aprison prime and a favorite pair of overalls from old, baby, they're white white overall right overalls, Yep Yep, but I mean you know: If that's what gets people there, then every place that we're ever going to do a live. Tilini has had alien encounters there yeah exactly exactly, and if you show up in costume they're, more likely a I e, the o with pockets full of Pepperoni it. I got a Pokin filliped here. Here's what I want. You know how like tacking about the midnight showings of rocky horror, be bring bread and Thrand, throw stuff and all that stuff yeah I want when we start doing live, shows which we will and the reason I keep saying it and put it in this cord. I'm now saying it on the podcast is that we have to yeah absolutely I wanted to do it. Last year now we said we're going to do some live, shows yeah yeah and I would like people to just bring bags of pepper on the show takes pickle at pickles to your eyes, shove them in your eyes. I want you to legally blind yourself. All right here. Take an ober home. You obviously can't drive because you pickles fries El fore so meet us out front by the emerge. Stable, be signing pickles all night I'll sign. I don't pickle o. This is awkward. I don't have a s. We have a a tow to dry it off. We try this, oh my gosh, so yes, so anyway, this has never been solved. It is one of the more reputable sources because there are photographs, the I think it has been released now that was so because the government's dumping a bunch of fo stuff right now. I can't find the pictures on line I'm looking right now, but I can't find him, but I wait here here they are. I can't find these online anywhere, so we can probably go ahead and oh wait. Hey speaking of pictures, did you know that if you just google the starbucks over here and go look at their reviews, they're just picture of the so people just know where the starbucks over here is the starbucks on Barry Load in Kansas City? That's where I go all the time yeah we were. We were looking it up because there's a guy who comes in every day, it's really mean to all the employees yeah. He leaves negative reviews. Almost every time he's wanted. So he goes and leaves like one or two star reviews, and so I was going to look them up. I was like, Oh okay, you know they were like yeah. He leaves a lot of it, so I googled it to try to find the reviews. Yeah and I see the photos tabuith photo step and there's like three pictures of just meat. Like there's. No reason someone would take that picture as like part of Star to show start liks they're showing year it's a passion, a yeah. So I'm saying like this has happened so many times where people mention me in their instar story. They'll they take a picture of me from afar yeah and be like Yo saw Jeremy, I'm not a freaking sand. Squats like O Arthog, come talk to me. I've been looking for you for a year, then I still have to e, but I'm saying like, and then apart from that there's pictures of me and then there's also just a ton of pictures that I'm in people just taking pictures of starbucks and I'm just in them yeah, because I go there all the time, but anyway, it was just weird that there was one of the main pictures was just me yeah s like who took this who's out here. Just taking stamping pictures of you, probably that guy I hired to do it. Oh, we should do that. We should do that, but we should go to freaking arbs down here, yeah and flood their Google Review pictures it we just atures of us and they like when you go to look when you go to look at Yelp. The top one hundred pictures is a a R B, we're doing that. THAT'S HILARIOUS! That is really funny. So last thing I want to hit real quick. We should do so many restaurants so excited well. Do I fifty four fee were on r. We goin right now. Oh my gosh I'm. So this is a new project, I'm so excited, so we we touch on in the second go, but the girl is releasing a lot of this stuff lately. So right now we talked about this in the reviewing episode is possible for anybody to just go and do a freedom of Information Act. So you basically can go to government and it's not like have more the fouchy emails to and which is no way that someone's going to read those out of the context and also be like you know: Yeah, you do lie, get it yeah, so they just have to release it. If you think it free a man act, they have to release it. They can redact anything that it will affect Atal security. So whenever read it there's a lot of stuff is missing, and so that's where we get most of this information from, but this month, which might be before this episode comes out. So this might already have happened. I don't know what is coming out, but this month is the deadline for a UF disclosure freedom of Information Act that is supposed to come out. I think June. Twenty eighth is the deadline which everybody is expecting them to miss that deadline, yeah so sure might still be there, but there's everything that they have everything that every government agency has on UF that doesn't affect national security has to be released by that date. So a lot of information might be coming out soon, which is really interesting. That's crazy, so be looking out for that. Well, com, La Disclosure, x, tin, the six six, eight six, six, that's the easiest way to find any till in to eight six, six, six, eight, six, six sash disclosure. Also, if you're interested in alien abductions, there is a video we put out already yeah. That is US reacting to the voice. Males from our have you been abducted, sign yeah, we're creating an organization to help abduct IES we're trying to yeah we're trying to abduct these Yep we're trying. We Are Alien Abductis we are so. Basically, we have a class every year, Yep right and we take our new abduct in Duck. Do Welcome Up Jack to Inductis. At the end they get a they get a portfolio like that: Poolin epomeo er, that's just full of peperoni l, O epernay. This is hello: DACT INDUCTIS! Here's your diploma of Tepere, we're going to celebrate ry watching Crocodile Dundee and Hallabay Badiah. My Gosh is there more on this snow fiddle at all

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